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So here's the thing. I don't believe black people are inferior humans. I believe even saying "black people" when making a claim about then is silly considering the vast gulf of genetic difference between sub-groups like West Africans and caucasoidal Africans in the Horn of Africa.

But I do believe that politically incorrect genetics are being suppressed by the scientific community, so I'm curious what you guys have dredged up.

I humbly ask for any compelling evidence you have for the genetic inferiority of "black people". Im not here to argue, just to read.

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Howdy faggot. Here's your answer.
Niggers do not belong in the West.
I could give a flying fuck about them or their shit-tier genetics tbqh.
Have a great day and watch out that you don't perforate your rectum and die of sepsis.

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Thanks for looking out! I'll stay away from horse dildos and giant dicks.

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Eh. Circumstantial at best, 100-year old pseudoscience at worst.

Thanks user. Just the kind of stuff im looking for.

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>Looks at Liberia
Yep, we should just cull them

So basically only 1/3rd of white people are above average smart and 1/3rd of black people are above average stupid and without bring the methodology and validity of this "study" into question, what exactly does that prove?

It in fact insinuates that 2/3rds of white people and 2/3rds of black people are genetically similar, and isn't compelling evidence of racial superiority/inferiority at all.

>whites needed to learn how to make shelter and tools to survive, evolution gave them better brains
>blacks needed strength to survive in Africa, intelligence wasn't needed because the climate was favorable for them

How about the fact that the only White nation that has ever had a nigger ruler is the US?

Kinda what i was thinking. I think you can say "the median white person is genetically inclined to be more intelligent than the median black person" but there's so much overlap of the two populations that it'd be impossible to predict an individual by the group.

Since these fine specimens are as intelligent as the average white, I'm sure Wakanda is well on it's way to reality, especially now that no "white devil" is there to colonize, "oppress" and "hinder" their progress.

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Im looking for statistical, correlative data that points to genetic inferiority. So far all ive gotten is spurious statistics and one post with legitimate genetic data.

I can literally cite better arguments myself like the Minnesota Transracial Adoption Study study and the heightened presence of the MAOA gene in blacks.

But both of those have issues when drawing conclusions, so i assumed Jow Forums would have better evidence at hand. Instead, i have some user unironically presenting phrenology as an argument.

Should i try /sci/ or will this question get me banned there?

>I humbly ask for any compelling evidence you have for the genetic inferiority of "black people". Im not here to argue, just to read.
Calling it "genetic inferiority" is a gross and propagandistic label. Blacks are genetically different from Europeans in a whole host of ways.

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There is no scientific basis for hating blacks or thinking they are genetically inferior to any other race.

Jow Forums is just racist as fuck dude. Sorry you had to find this out the hard way.

If you're looking at a ~15 IQ gap, which is the generally cited number between American niggers and American whites, then that is noticeable in your average day to day interaction with people. Remember you aren't just dealing with one individual in a vacuum, us racists are considering the overall impact on society. A population that's one full standard deviation lower than average in intelligence is going to disproportionately suck up welfare, social services in general, and be a drag on the well being of the country. Add in the ethnic tensions that have only grown more pronounced in the last 20 years and it's hard to see how the presence of blacks in this country benefits whites.

I'll also take issue with what you said in the OP about 'black' being a catchall term for Africans. While Africa is a very diverse place, most American blacks are the descendants of slaves from west Africa, so there isn't actually that much diversity in the population here. Hell, even your average rural white with very little experience with other races would recognize a north African as distinct from a black, even if they just decided they were an Arab.

You don't even need a transracial adoption study, twin studies give sufficient evidence for the heritability of IQ

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>But I do believe that politically incorrect genetics are being suppressed by the scientific community, so I'm curious what you guys have dredged up.

youtube.com/watch?v=lGg5q3Ycaro

youtube.com/watch?v=U29vgRadLh0

You are too stupid nothing can help you. Continue on your degenerate path of moral relativism until your time is up. You are also inferior

>Niggers do not belong in the West.
but advanced African metal smiths founded the city of London

>Im looking for statistical, correlative data that points to genetic inferiority.
all people are the same, but you can adjust intelligence by adjusting the diet of the pregnant mother

>You are too stupid nothing can help you
high protein diet could help. but it might take thousands of years

My friends and I just did a statistical analysis of the local library and found that white book covers have a higher percentage of PhD authors. We must immediately discard any book that is not white, because that makes sense. Also, (((MAGA))).

For hating? Sure. But i think it's silly to say there are no genetic differences between groups and to also say that any genetic difference is exclusively aesthetic when we know full well genes can affect everything.

I'll give this a look, thanks.

Very interesting about the subspecies stats in other species. That said, supspecies designations don't follow standardized guidelines and are based on mant more factors than genetic similarity.

I mean it sounds like you have most of the available science already. This stuff is mostly verboten in polite society, particularly if you're trying to draw conclusions from it. You have to decide for yourself what you want to do with information, we aren't here to tell you how to think. This is a board for trolling and frog memes.

Also, the nigger question is banal and not that important. Yes, statistically they're dumber than us. They have less impulse control and more aggression so criminal behavior is more common. But compared to the kikes they're infinitely more livable. Hell, before the Jewish civil rights movement we were well on the way to civilizing them.

the requirements for a smart nigger to evolve are much higher than in europe, because you don't only have to be smart/intelligent, you also have to be strong enough physically to dominate your tribe and people

so the chances of that hpapening are very slim

*lower

Oh i completely agree. Significant overlap between any trait discussed here across genetic groups, along with intermixing of those genetic groups, means that it's pointless to "prove" one race is better than the other, and saying one racr deserves less rights than another for having a lower median intelligence is pretty abhorrent.

I just really, really don't like that there are apparently topics so taboo they're completely off limits for academic research and discussion.

The way James Watson was treated for saying that genetics influence racial differences was pretty disgusting to me.

The same SNPs in whites don't have the same effect as those SNPs in blacks
The GWAS has the vast majority of its data as White so it is unreliable to map the genome of blacks and finally this is based on correlation and not causation
Why do you keep posting the same debunked shit?

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Pol is a really assine place to go for science.

>I humbly ask for any compelling evidence you have for the genetic inferiority of "black people"
There isn't any
All "evidence" posted here is done so without consideration of context or even the subject itself

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I'll be the first to admit. Aside from all the plainly available evidence, we have very little to support this notion.

I cant imagine this board gives you too much

What notion?
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no one here has actual legitimate studies pointing to a casual relationship between genetics and intelligence (in large part because most institutions wouldn't dare perform this sort of study, lest they lose their government funding). but i'm not sure how you can look at the history of africa (or lack thereof) or iq studies and think there isn't some sort of link. sub-saharan africans were unironically savages when colonists first encountered them. my personal stance in all of this is that there is too much variance in iq to assume the black person you just met is an idiot, but you can say with absolute certainty that if you import 10k somalians, as a group they will be dumber than a random sample of whites

Jow Forums is satire my friend, in reality everyone here loves people of African decent.

Yes.
I've never posted anything without it being tongue in cheek.
I also love the NSA.

Well for starters of the top I think Blacks are naturally more fertile than their white counterparts.
Meaning that if they have similar access to resources the blacks will always outbreed the whites.
Which is the true test of "superiority", how well you can pass your genes on.

Melanin seems to be pretty important as well.

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That's true, but the racial variance is attributed to environmental factors
See the 'flynn effect'

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The supposed inferiority or superiority of a race is subjective. Nobody can say who is "good" and who is "bad", we are just different, and should organize ourselves accordingly.

Maybe he is afraid of heights? I can relate

Sorry, i meant that i cant see what all you get out of this board. I go here occasionally but it's just a constant barrage of shitposting with a few gems in between. Unless im specifically looking for a Jow Forumsack's perspective i stay away.

It sounds like you are likely in line with most 'race realists'. You just have a problem with some of the semantics.

Understand that nobody is claiming 'each and every one without exception'. So your vast gulf of genetic differences is accounted for. The question is, is there a difference as a group (theme) between the races. Next is, does this difference matter.

It doesn't take all, it really doesn't even take a majority to make a difference that must be addressed.

i have no doubt that environment plays a huge role, and that the true racial difference in "intelligence" however we choose to define it is overstated. but i think attributing the differences entirely to environment is an enormous stretch, and does not take into consideration how an environment became toxic in the first place. sub-saharan africans failed to produce basically anything of worth in the thousands of years they had prior to the arrival of colonists- and without exception, whichever country they emigrate to, as a group they are lowest in achievement and highest in crime. you can see this playing out across the globe. to attribute all of that to "environment" despite other groups of immigrants coming to those places and finding success, is a bit absurd to me

>The same SNPs in whites don't have the same effect as those SNPs in blacks
Why not?

>I don't believe black people are humans.

Corrected.

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>redpill me
>feed me propaganda
Pick one.

>must be addressed.
Care to elaborate on what you mean here?

My main concern is that we're getting to a point in society where any and every field that is not 100% proportionally represented by members of minority groups is considered bad, and people search for the "racist culture" behind it. Seems to me if genetic differences exist in any significant way, then you wouldn't actually expect proportional representation.

Im not a Jow Forumsack. I don't support racism and any policy that raises one group while diminishing another, and i dont believe in "white genocide", but my concerns are real even if not dire. I also just like to challenge my views.

>shitting out more niglets than the local environment can support without foreign aid and then dying of starvation and disease in mud huts is "superior"
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I come here to shitpost or deliberately be contrarian. I'm not a regular Jow Forumstard
Environment means alot more than just culture
In fact culture is symptomatic of environment.
Consider that Africa is mostly wasteland and lacks farming animals. The river density is far lower than in Europe and tye climate is more susceptible to disastrous change
Also many of the negative stereotypes attributed to, for example African Americans, impact their behaviour.
This 'negative bias' has been shown to profoundly affect their ability, as well as anyone in general.

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Hi.

Can you cite more studies to use against Jow Forumstard phrenology arguments? for the keks

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Is starving one their superpowers?

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Because they're typically applied to polygenic traits, in this case intelligence, and because different races have different SNPs, the combinations will have different outcomes

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Literally the only reason we exist is to replicate our genes through reproduction.
If you can't do this you're losing the game.
It's also the first thing "God" told mankind "be fruitful and multiply".

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And as soon as white people stop feeding them the population drops back down to hunter gatherer levels.
Without whites, they'd go back to what they were doing before - running around buck naked, throwing rocks and sticks at each other

Dont have any. It's field that was debunked a century ago and makes psychoanalysis look like a hard science. It amounts to "this makes sense in my head so no reason to do any research to confirm or deny".

It'd be like saying pic related proves Ron Perlman is "less evolved".

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>Consider that Africa is mostly wasteland and lacks farming animals. The river density is far lower than in Europe and tye climate is more susceptible to disastrous change

most of africa is anything but a wasteland, but not going to argue that point. let me ask you this- if for thousands of years a people were subjected to undernourishment/danger on a near-constant basis, is it unreasonable to think that certain areas of their mental development would suffer? my expectation is that if whites were native to the area and faced the same hardships, those whites would average a lower iq than european whites

No, what's going to happen is once they reach 4 billion people (((they're))) going to suggest that we stop feeding/supporting them.

>Stop feeding/supporting them.

>4B hungry people fighting over scarce resources/space.

>1.5B spread out of Africa covering the face of the earth.

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God damn it, I think you're onto something here. Fuck me...

>People that are different from me are inferior
Join the transcendent, ecological racist-club already, faggot. I don't blame zebras for acting like zebras. Why blame nogs for acting like nogs?
>The only reason we exist is to procreate
>The only reason we exist is to survive
>The only reason we exist is to expend as much energy as possible
>The only reason we exist is to consume foof for subsistence
>The only reason we exist is to do X
A nothing-statement.

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>have two quantities
>quantities are related in a non-linear, complex manner but are related by one or two degrees of separation at most
>in order to get an idea of direction of relationship you have to use statistical methods

>HUURRRRRR CORRELATION IS NOT CAUSATION

I can't decide if you're a retarded diaper-shitting Brit on NHS or the inbred Paki rapefugee assigned to take care of him

>Consider that Africa is mostly wasteland and lacks farming animals. The river density is far lower than in Europe and tye climate is more susceptible to disastrous change
Africa is literally the breadbasket of the world, you fucking retard.

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((They're)) planning on using them as a biological weapon of sorts.
Kind of like the xenomorphs (which are coincidentally walking black cocks) from the Alien movies.

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It's funny that some of my black friends are one of the most intelligent people I have ever met.
One is a math major and the other is a computer science major, both excelled at their studies and I still talk with them dearly.
I don't think IQ is a good or accurate measure of "G"(general intelligence) and I believe environment factors are way more important than genetics.
Smart people could still be dumb and aggressive if you are born into a shitty family, feral childs shows how much our environment matters when growing up.

t. white brazilian in the south

Niggers are physically Strong but Retarded

Asians & Jews are Smarter but Weaker

Whites can be either:
Chad (Strong but Retarded)
Nerd (Smarter but Weaker)

Traits are genetically inherited.

The smartest blacks such as Obama
are actually half White Mutts (Mulattoes)
smarter than Pure blacks.

>The only reason we exist is to survive

So we can procreate.

>The only reason we exist is to expend as much energy as possible

So we can procreate.

>The only reason we exist is to consume food for subsistence

So we can procreate.

Thanks for proving my point.

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>It's funny that some of my black friends are one of the most intelligent people I have ever met. One is a math major and the other is a computer science major, both excelled at their studies and I still talk with them dearly.
Cherry-picking.
>I don't think IQ is a good or accurate measure of "G"(general intelligence)
IQ is by far the best psychometric for G that currently exists.
>I believe environment factors are way more important than genetics.
Separating genetics from environment = retarded
>Smart people could still be dumb and aggressive if you are born into a shitty family, feral childs shows how much our environment matters when growing up.
You literally just admitted that people can be genetically predisposed towards being intelligent.
>t. white brazilian in the south
I DOUBT IT

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Not necessarily inferior, just different mentally as well as physically. You think different races can evolve hugely different physical appearances but not brain/organ characteristics? Silly.

So what if distinct races have distinct IQ differences too? You can't deny biology OP. You understand that, I know you do. Being disingenuous and spitting on science is very dishonest.

That's not circumstantial
Brain size correlates with intelligence 0.3 to 0.4 which is strong to moderate. The presentation however is shoddy

Melanin has been shown to increase violence and aggression when injected into animals
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1691335/
Blacks have more melanin

I'll refer you to this channel The Alternative Hypothesis
He's a queer too
Watch his back catalogue and you should be convinced
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>You literally just admitted that people can be genetically predisposed towards being intelligent.
I'm not saying that our intelligence are not heritable, I'm saying that nurture is way more important for our development.
You do know that most shooters had a shitty childhood, right?

>The only reason we exist is to consume energy
So we can survive.
>The only reason we exist is to procreate
So we can survive.
>The only reason we exist is to spread genes
So we can survive.

You're falling into the same trap that fucktard Marx fell into with the Labor Theory of Value.

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almost nothing matches between these two

you are retarded, if brain size correlates it would mean taller people are on average smarter than shorter ones

in nature most of the time the alpha males are darker skinned and more dominant than their pale counterparts and they also get darker as they age

>Ron Perlman
Ron Perlman is a Jew though

no amount of statistics and """compelling evidence""" is going to change your mind, you know this, we know this. if you have never lived around a sizeable popluation of them you will never truly see first hand. but, if you really want the red pill, just stop by one of the nigger webm threads here and your opinion will change real quick. hundreds of videos of blacks killing, beating, raping and stealing. there's an endless supply of phone/cctv footage of it, there's an endless supply of news reports on this shit.. think about that before you do your "muh culture problem" copy/pasta

>they also get darker as they age
actually animals's hair turn grey with age.

Just like hurman hair turn grey.

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Why doesn't anyone take into account alimentation? You are what you eat. During the pre-natal period, the food digested by the mother nourishes her child, and its molecular ingredients play a fundamental role in the baby's development. Meat in particular, all proteic foods actually, strenghtens brain tissue and thereby increases intelligence. I don't think that meat abounds on African tables but, anyway, the link between diets and intelligence must be studied with care.