How's your relationship with God, user?

that was when I was a kid, I really don't remember much desu I just have this vague idea from what my mother would tell me which is God is pure love and loves unconditionally and that I should look to the sky and stuff like that.

In my own words I would say getting saved would mean asking for forgiveness and trying to talk to God which resides in all of us, but I just feel like a n00b when I try to do it.

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You know damn well which I'm talking about.
Neither I nor you are God because we were created, we did not create the universe, and we do not know everything. Take your gnostic stuff to /x/ please.

Gotcha, see, even in Christian homes the gospel usually isn't explicitly explained or presented, and that's not your fault for being foggy on it. The first step of any Christian's life is getting saved, being "born again". You can't have a relationship with God without having a Father in heaven.

This video explains the gospel clearly and directly:

youtube.com/watch?v=-fGxOCJCRpA

wow, you're seriously dumb! Bible states in first chapters GOD CREATED MAN IN HIS OWN IMAGE! that by definition states that we are clones of God and therefore are Gods

>have to spend eternity with a leaf poster

Certainly beats hell but man

Also, get saved frens dont let us be the only autists in Heaven.

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Look at it this way, most of heaven is gonna be populated with aborted babies so we probably won't even cross paths.

Amen to your pic btw.

Take your sand worship elsewhere turbo nigger this is not a jewish majority board

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God will get in touch with you when you’re ready

Is an image of a saint, the saint himself?
If you want to pass for a Christian at least show humility.

Read The Word Every Day.
Pray to God, talk to your Father, He longs to hear from you.
God is Good.
Even if you don't see it or feel it.
In All situations, God is perfectly Good.
He was Good before you, and will be forever.

youtu.be/MJ9cov1lk64

that's your mistake to subscribe to a single religion. It's like picking to be either logical or emotional but not both.

Pretty good
He helps me really often, and im very thankful for that
Often its small things, sometimes big
Small things are like
I had a very important exam at school, and i knew i would fail
So i prayed to god, telling him that i trust him, and if he could help me
Next day, i go into school, its like 1 hour before the exam
Suddenly printer prints out exactly 1 paper
I go up there, look at it
Its a exam
I make a pic of it, and look through the internet
Suddenly i find this exact exam with all solutions on the internet
So i take an empty sheet of paper, and write all the solutions on it

Bell rings, teacher comes in
Some other students also had an exam, they sat beside me, and the teacher has like 15 different exams in his hand, and he asks me which one i want
I said, i dont care, give me what you want
He hands me an exam, i turn it around, and its the exact same same exam which i found on the internet and which the printer printed out
So i just grabbed the solutions waited a few min, thanked god, and gave the test to the teacher
Got the highest score and everything was fine

And stuff like that happens like all the time if i pray for it
Of course it could be just a coincidence but things like that arent likely, and they happen so often
And this just an example for small daily wonders i get from god

Trust me guys, god exist
You really have it much easier, if you pray to him

Have you been baptized?

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thanks user

Baptism has nothing to do with salvation.

Bible-truth.com

Bible-truths.com

We don't talk and I think he is an asshole.

>the religious rite of sprinkling water onto a person's forehead or of immersion in water, symbolizing purification or regeneration and admission to the Christian Church.

FULL IMMERSION IS THE WAY TO GO!
WAKE UP IN THE LORD user!

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maybe instead of quoting men you should quote the bible

1 Corinthians 1:17
>For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.

Since most people are not "saved," and all aborted babies go to heaven, statistically most aborted babies were saved by their abortions from an eternity being tortured in hell. Therefore it is likely that Margaret Sanger has saved more people from hell than any Church leader or movement ever created.

Now try to debate Christ cuck faggots. Come on. Use all 83 of those IQ points.

The Bible and God does not follow utilitarian ethics. An evil action is evil regardless of intent. I'm sure you've heard "the road to hell is paved with good intentions".

At the end of the day, we are saved by grace through faith and not of ourselves(Eph. 2:8-9). No matter how many good works you do, it's not enough to get you into heaven. You have to believe.

Your logic is sound. It's another way of exposing the myth of hell as being just that, a myth. Christ died for ALL

why did god want man to remain brainlets?

Unless you are aborted. Then you get a free pass. Anyone who would have a child knowing that they had even a 1% chance of rejecting Christ is evil beyond measure if you really believe your own garbage.

And your whole argument is that God abhors logic and reason, and operates in a different arena. Where retarded is smart and evil is good.

I can respect a Christian that rejects the doctrine of hell. After all, it was pedo priests, not Jesus, who introduced it in the first place.

i am god and god is me so yeah were pretty tight

Jesus introduced the Second Death

You just dust and a shadow compared to the All-and-Ever

That was a message specific for the Corinthians of the time. It's clear that baptism is a means of grace.

You're also quoting out of context. Paul was saying that he didn't want to baptize because people were claiming status in the faith based upon who baptized them... READ YOUR BIBLE

A Church Divided Over Leaders
10 I appeal to you, brothers and sisters,[a] in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another in what you say and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly united in mind and thought. 11 My brothers and sisters, some from Chloe’s household have informed me that there are quarrels among you. 12 What I mean is this: One of you says, “I follow Paul”; another, “I follow Apollos”; another, “I follow Cephas[b]”; still another, “I follow Christ.”
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13 Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized in the name of Paul? 14 I thank God that I did not baptize any of you except Crispus and Gaius, 15 so no one can say that you were baptized in my name. 16 (Yes, I also baptized the household of Stephanas; beyond that, I don’t remember if I baptized anyone else.) 17 For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel—not with wisdom and eloquence, lest the cross of Christ be emptied of its power.
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>Christ died for all
>Hell is a myth

ctrl+f in the King James Bible

Revelation 21:8

>But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

God is judgement. This is closest you will come to immortality: the judgement of the dead will never die. Live your life accordingly.

The second death is destruction of the soul, which lasts forever, not a realm of eternal torture

Baptism is not a means of grace. Nowhere is this found in the bible.

Faith is a necessary requirement before we are baptized.
35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.

36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?

37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.

Annihilationism is heresy found nowhere in the bible. There is many scriptures in the bible that describe eternal torment for the unsaved, Satan, and his demons.

>inb4 "the fire of hell is eternal but nobody is actually punished there eternally! hell is empty!"

Pray until it becomes your daily food. Ask for intercession. In my experience, it works.

How is an infant supposed to have faith?

And you don't think this could be allegory? Do you believe in the creation account too where we live below a bunch of water held at bay by the dome of fixed stars?

Assuming Jesus wasnt just a lazy Jew who couldnt hack it, dont you think he would stress eternal hell a little more if it were true? Dont you think every sermon would spell out very specifically that you have to give him a loyalty oath, otherwise you will be tortured for eternity in a literal lake of fire? He didnt talk about that because the idea that you live one short life here and then are judged for eternity is fucking absurd to anyone with a modicum of compassion and 2 brain cells to rub together.

Atheism, communism, feminism- they are here because they were seen as the only alternative in the West to your 3rd grade level vicious Church Christianity. A religion without justice, without mercy, and without common sense.

Lake of fire is not hell. I agree that the wicked will not know God. But all wicked will repent sometime. Lake of fire is the toll used for refining. Hence the verses about "burning of dross".
Bible-truths.com

*tool

God is a Jew. Put him in the oven.

Matthew 25:46
>And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
Matthew 13:50
>And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Read the story of the rich man and lazarus. Not a parable, involves real people and real names.
Infants have no knowledge of good or evil, read Romans.

Revelation 14:11
>And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

>Transcripts contained in Table Talk have Hitler expressing faith that science would wear away religion. On 14 October 1941, in an entry concerning the fate of Christianity, Hitler says: "Science cannot lie, for it's always striving, according to the momentary state of knowledge, to deduce what is true. When it makes a mistake, it does so in good faith. It's Christianity that's the liar. It's in perpetual conflict with itself."[71] Religion will crumble before scientific advances, says Hitler: "The dogma of Christianity gets worn away before the advances of science. Religion will have to make more and more concessions. Gradually the myths crumble. All that's left is to prove that in nature there is no frontier between the organic and the inorganic. When understanding of the universe has become widespread, when the majority of men know that the stars are not sources of light but worlds, perhaps inhabited worlds like ours, then the Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity."[72]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler

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How could someone enjoy "heaven" if their kids were burning in hell. It only makes sense to people incapable of love.

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baptism
It's a pretty well known practice.

I think it's enough that Jesus Christ was baptized and I want to be like Christ so I was baptized as well. In the name of the Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit.

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little do you know that i am every spec of dust

This thread is now full of total wackjobs, I hope I was a help OP. Praying for you.

The word "everlasting" is wrong. It should be translated "age abiding". I encourage you to research this, unless you get off to people being tortured for eternity

Thanks for helping me to talk about baptism!
You blessed me and others today!

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Yes. You have to be a repugnant human being to believe this is what God is and what he does, and still "love him." These people can love a god who does this because like you say, they have no capacity whatsoever for genuine love or empathy.

Maybe it's good maybe it isn't!

Pray for them

Exactly how it is with my Dad. Always been there for me but generally we have little in common and I don't call for months on end.

This is also why Christians elicit a visceral hatred in normal people when they talk about their twisted ethics. They will avoid "swear words" and think making money is evil, but they are perfectly ok with a few of their family members burning for eternity. They are ok with you burning for eternity. How can you not hate someone when you know you try to be a good man and they think it is just for you to be physically, emotionally, and spiritually tortured forever? The answer is, they should be hated. Their viciousness, callousness, and simple rock bottom stupidity is probably without parallel outside of Islam.

Dr. William Peirce's philosophy is great. It's so simple, and you don't have to be a hypocrite. Anyone who is an atheist or agnostic should consider it.

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Lol.

Forgive them, they know not what they do

I'm assuming you're an atheist, but you are speaking for God when you speak truth to their dead hearts.

watch this movie, my favorite
a scene

youtube.com/watch?v=nNJjsL2tFAY

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Saved from what?

I deeply grieve those that I know, from my perspective, will not be with me after judgement.

It haunts me like nothing else.
I pray for my enemies every day.

I will search and seek those that are lost.
Talk to your family.
If they are lost, you have nothing to lose except them.
If you cannot convince them, bring a friend in The Word and KEEP TRYING!
If you love them, Keep Trying!

Until you have no breath left user.

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Go to bible-truths.com and relieve yourself of the pain you carry. The Good News really is good news!

I'm not an atheist actually. I am an agnostic that leans toward theism. I just know that if there is a just God or spiritual reality, that Christianity is not anywhere near it. And in making my argument here, I speak from the believing side of my psyche. If there is no God and we are simply accidents of physics with no free will, existing within a deterministic universe, then value judgements of any kind are meaningless. Right and wrong to exist at all in any objective, meaningful sense, requires spirituality.

So yes I know what you are getting at. You are right. Christians have something spiritually and ethically wrong with them to believe in the doctrine of hell and be ok with it. Sure there are some Christians who ignore this part of the religion, and just try to be a good person, but Im talking about the genuine, literal interpretation types. They are just scum. The lowest form of humanity.

I'm not say you, but most "Christians" say what you are saying. I've found the truth is, they would rather someone burn than disagree with their opinion.

>"GOD CREATED MAN IN HIS OWN IMAGE!" "We are clones of god"
>"image"
I dont think you know what image means.

It's not something that you do user...
It's not going to proceed from a place that is essentially you.

It's got to come from the Spirit.

Jesus Christ
The Blood of Christ
The Word of God
Praise and Thanksgiving.

If they live and you Live, there is still time and cause for Great Hope in the Lord!

Call them user... Do it right now.

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Go out into nature.
Your country has wilderness. Get some camping gear together and go out.
I live in a remote part of northern England, but your country has actual wilderness. Get out of the areas with light pollution, set up a tent, make a fire, catch a fish and eat it. Look at the sky.
pic is near me

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I know I've been spamming the site bible-truths.com in this thread, but the guys work is amazing. Since I don't believe in the bullshit of hell, I'm only doing it out of love of L Ray's work. People like you will help bring peace to the world bro

I tell everyone I meet the Way, Truth and the Life. I'm just not a conflicted person that believes the lie about hell

You may have a heart that is drawn down and mired in the same things that draw this person down and away from God.

If they said, come be with me in hell forever, would you go? (if they somehow had the ability to dictate the terms of their hell. In some ways people DO!)

Your victory is not a person that you win.
Your victory is that YOU WERE WON!

You can help them fight but you cannot save them if you couldn't save yourself (I could not save myself). Don't let this person become an Idol! I know how painful it is to try to save people of myself alone.

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Absolutely beautiful. What are you catching in the river? Catfish?

Hell is papist nonsense mistaking the Samsara and the bottomless pit set aside for the End Time.

>you'll never be a hobbit

I would switch places with my kids in a heartbeat if they were in Hell. But that would make me better than your god

He’s still listening, brother. Just speak.

So we are a reflection of god without actually being god?

That's such a narrow view.

Yes, this is most likely the meaning on the surface. There may be some sort of deeper meaning though. Not sure.

I would switch too if I could, but I can't.
Jesus already did it.

>You see, at just the right time, when we were still powerless, Christ died for the ungodly. Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous person, though for a good person someone might possibly dare to die. But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

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Do you see your cognative dissonance?

nice digits

>What are you catching in the river?
Trout, mainly. Salmon in season.

But I was trying to advise OP to go out into nature. The USA has beautiful places and I'm certain that OP has amazing places that he can go to.
pic is my village. I took it from when I went on a bike ride this Summer.

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I'm sure there are a lot of things about Christianity that requires a person to think outside of dichotomies and even embrace paradox (Strength in weakness, ect.).

Often that is a little trap, because I don't have to understand how (even though I really do want to know). I'm sure I don't type perfectly. You can probably pick my text apart, but that would be a blessing.

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Thanks buddy. All the best to you too.

what do you want to ask OP.

>be 8DJr9cd/
>in need of medical treatment
>"user, you got here just in time! I'm more than happy to provide you with medical treatment!", a nurse says, enthusiastically
>"NO, I don't want to receive treatment! You've listed my treatment options several times in the past and I don't want to hear them again. Leave me the hell alone.", you say
>"Well, okay user. It is your choice not to receive treatment, after all. I do have to warn you that you'll die if you don't receive it soon, however.", the nurse says somberly, looking to the floor
>"I'll be just down the hall if you change your m-"
>"HOW DARE YOU! HOW FUCKING DARE YOU IMPLY I'M GOING TO DIE! HOW COULD YOU SAY THAT?"
>"YOU'RE A VICIOUS BITCH, YOU KNOW THAT? YOU'RE WORSE THAN MUSLIMS."
>"Sir, please watch your language! There are children near-"
>"OH, THERE YOU GO BEING A HYPOCRITE! YOU'RE HEARTLESS! YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT ME AT ALL, JUST YOUR PRECIOUS SWEAR WORDS!"
>"YOU'RE THE WORST SOCIETY HAS TO OFFER!!"

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christianity is like a pyrimid scam

we live in a world where 70 % of christians think the bible is 100% right and 10 % bleave most of it

that means only 20% of christians believe the truth and 10% only belive half the lie and 70 % belive the whole lie and have to reinterpret the facts of the real world to line up with there false interpretation of there false religion

also im not even a atheist to
people in america have religous freedom and they just choose to pick there parrents religion

"helpees" are often hostile to "helpers"
Dogs in pain bite vets.
Drug addicts attack those that want to bring them out of addiction.

Intercession is not for the faint of heart.
Do it in fellowship.

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will i ever get free?

God is either a faggot, an asshole, or non existant