Peepee

>What do you mean?
I don't know, I get a kind of disappointed vibe from the OP, saying it's "only" average. As if something average is a kind of failure.
And in turn made me think about this seemingly ingrained competition mindset and that it's constantly draining to be on top and always be winning at everything etc.

I don't think I can make confidence out of thin air, though.

Yeah, it's a competition mindset. I really don't know what to do about it.

hypnotize yourself using HFO audio's so that you're as hard as possible during sex

kinkyshibby has tons, they've literally helped me get laid and git gud

also, dairy products have estrogen and literal morphene-like compunds. stop eating and drinking those

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>journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0095298

There's FDA approved penis enlargement implants now

If you're average, there are as many people smaller than you than there are larger. Average is average for a reason - more people are average than not, and an average size dick is the perfect size for an average-tightness pussy (which, of course, there is more of than any other size).
The main thing to remember is that dick size is only important to straight men, and a minority of women and bottoms (which, even then, are totally split with a full half preferring Smaller dicks). Its not important to most people you want seeing it, its not important to giving girls good orgasms, its not important to being attractive. I know its conditioned into you, but start the long road in not giving fucks about shit that doesn't matter.

>9 inch dick
>Tight pussy gf w/ huge titty
>this is what I dreamed about
>sex
>can only use the first 2 inches
>cant anal gf
>cum in seconds cuz head of penis gets all stimulation
>gf cheats with a sensual chad with normal cock
>big dicks are a lie

>tfw crush has a long, thick dick
I could see its outline when he snapped me a totally innocent pic of himself in his goofy pjs and it made my mouth water
Just thinking about him makes me hot all over

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this happened to me too. fuck my life dude at least im not alone in it.

define long and thick? Ive got a 6.5x4.8 dick which is definitely average but have had the same response from half the women Ive dated.

8" x 6", but i've got psoriasis sores on the shaft

My dick is the low end of average (5.5 to 6.1 inches), and to be honest, I just don't think about it that much. It's big enough that it does the job. A girl did once comment that it wasn't particularly big, but it didn't matter because she was still fucking me regularly.

That said, I do probably overcompensate in bed. I fuck like a rabid dog. There's a lot of aggressive fingering (probably more aggressively than is ideal), and I like eating girls out too.

For the love of god, sometimes I don't know why I keep answering this shit so please listen up.

>competition about who has the biggest dick is a male ego thing
You think it's about female pleasure? Okay, then why doesn't anyway include how many rounds they can go? Why is girth often even omitted entirely? Why don't they brag about the angle that hits her g-spot?

>average is average for a reason
See also this post; . Pussies get deeper when aroused and relaxed, but they aren't black holes anything can fit into. Porn stars in big dick shoots are professionals selected on being able to take said dick. In real life, a 7" simply won't be able to fuck every woman balls deep. Let alone fucking her balls deep during a quicky without ample warming up.
And this is still talking vaginal penetration, not anal or blowjobs. A mouth can only open so far before there's no way to avoid the teeth.

>your dick is not a dildo
The only situation in which comparing stats to deem who is the superior lover makes sense, is if you're looking at dildos. Women do not experience these dicks in a vacuum. They're only one part of the overall experience of getting fucked by you. And if getting fucked by you is terrible, then your dick doesn't matter one bit, just like no one cares how good the cake that is coated in shit initially was.
Try to change positions. Do you prefer an innie or an outie? Probably innie. Do you still prefer the innie if it smells bad? Or if it's looser? Or if it doesn't get very wet naturally, no matter how aroused she is? What if the outie can flex around you? What if the innie can't climax from penetration and the outie comes buckets right on your dick?
Keep in mind, this is still strictly talking characteristics of the sex organ. Not the woman's technique, not her body, not her personality and your feelings for her.

>praising size isn't 1:1 valuing size
Compared to women, men have very concrete, outward signs of arousal. As a woman, I can be so aroused I have shooting aches in my vagina and my underwear needs a change, and you won't be able to tell from looking at my crotch. From that position, feeling a bodypart against you and knowing for a fact that the only reason you feel anything at all is because that man you're crazy about is horny and you made him horny - that's a fucking powerful thing. An erection pressing up against you hits a primal part, it's like your reptilian brain pauses regulating your breathing to note that shit's about to go down. A penis is prominent and big compared to even a meaty pussy with a generous mound, and when the man gets aroused it gets notably much bigger. Sometimes especially big even compared to his normal state of erection.

Basically, calling dicks "big" lustfully or lovingly does NOT necessarily mean you think they're hung like a horse. It is an emotive thing. It's an expression of awe and vulnerability (because that swollen thing is literally going to go inside yourself). I like to compare it to how often men have fawned over my tiny hands. I don't have small hands for a woman, not whatsoever, they're on the big side if anything. But they're dainty compared to male hands of a similar size and more importantly, when someone told me that they were expressing a protective or tender feeling, not comparing me to all the hands they've seen in their life or to the national average hand size statistics.

>sources
If after all this you still feel uncertainty about being average sized, see moderntantra.blogspot.nl/p/penis-size.html?zx=ccc44a1b2876942a for a very good source on the topic that doesn't just cover personal anecdotes but also surveys and, quite tellingly, the best-selling dildo sizes (spoiler: 4"-6" of insertable length - men tend to forget you also need to hold a dildo somewhere, firmly enough to get a good thrust going, so a 7" dildo doesn't mean she swallows it all up).

And for the love of god, if you're reading this and you think it's just hilarious to claim that 6" is average or whatever else to troll, please just don't. For you it's some silly entertainment you'll have forgotten by tomorrow, while feeding into the most intimate insecurities of some of the many impressionable young guys lurking here, who are already watching porn with played up above average dicks on the daily. Be the person you wanted your teenage self to have around.

>average
>meaning most people are the same as you, and a small portion are below or above
>average exists because it’s what persevered (if you believe in evolution)
>if most people throughout human history were also average, then it must work pretty damn well

It’s the same as not being a world class athlete, but also not being in a wheelchair. Most of the time, you get the job done. Sometimes, you might do an exceptional job, and that’s great, celebrate in those moments. Sometimes, you end up over par. Don’t make it a habit, but don’t sweat it, because it happens to literally everyone. And never let anyone shake you for compensating in any part of your life, because they are definitely doing it too, and if they aren’t, they’re behind.

How the fuck is this even an issue or problem? I have fucked one hell of a crowd of women over the decades. Not one time have I given a single fuck what some chick thought about my dingus. I just enjoy fucking. Quit worrying about it. No one gives a shit.

Thanks based adv bro

Fuck it man just don't even care. I got like 5.5 and I'm cool with it. Do the best with what you got and just say fuck it.

i'm insecure about my girth. its 4.3 to 4.5, 4.8 at base

it curves up though

I know I'm above average (7 x 5), but considering that I'm 6' and of a broader build (and a bit chubby, which doesn't help me here), I think it looks small in comparison to my body. Is my penis large enough to be considered "big", or just "above average but still unremarkable"?

I've had women say it's small but then have no problems sucking it and cumming from sex. Recently I have been in an exceptionally long dry spell so the state of my penis no longer matters at all.

>hypnotize yourself
Lol just take one L-arginine like an hour before, it's a harmless amino acid that makes your hard-on maximize it's potential
Not like exploding penis pump big but it'll be full every time

that's thrush

This was surprisingly insightful

This. Unless you have cartoonish micropeen like Chris Chan, there's no issue with more or less being average sized.

If a girl wants to fuck you, she's going to fuck you, she's not going to immediately and completely change her mind when you pull your dick out unless it's something really bad like it's covered in two weeks worth of dick cheese or the doctor sneezed when he was performing your circumcision.

Well put. It correlates with my experience with how women respond and I've learnt years ago to play to these responses.

Nonetheless women love to play with the 8.5" long and 6.5" girth penis I pack. When a new girl is confronted with it, her eyes and hands can't get enough of it. The look on their faces is priceless, a mix of anticipation, eagerness and a little trepidation. To dip a finger into a dripping cooch while she's mumbling "oh my god, it's so big" is just gold.

I'm constantly compared to boyfriends and husbands and during pillow talk afterwards I always ask if she enjoyed being fucked by my big cock and every one of them has enthusiastically said yes. The ones most in awe are the 'good wives' who settled early, had kids and never had much sexual experience.

Apart from anal being off the table the big dick life is good.

The human body can only absorb so much through intrinsic factor, just eat Walnuts.

And hypnosis feels so fucking good what are you even talking about

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Eating animals? Wtf even is pic related trying to say?

Youre better than 50%. Remember that the upper end of penises cant stay as hard and are too big.

You dont have a micro penis as well

heard of vegans?

>normal people doing normal people thing that literally 99.5% of the population does
>"REEEEEEEEE WHY DON'T THEY DO WHAT I WANT?!"

Don’t, actually. Just don’t think about it. If you have a big pp you’ll never be able to fit inside a girl, as they only go 3-5 inches deep. As long as you know how to use it most people won’t care- and if they do they’re shitty people you probably don’t wanna fuck.

>tfw I lost 20 pounds and my sick went from 5" to 6"
I still have a fat pouch there too, so if I keep at it it will likely top out at 6.5" or a bit over.

Average is alright OP. Just learn how to use it.

>t. Guy with a tol gf and can already hit deep without wrecking her cervix
Once I get that little extra, I'm going to jam it in her.

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Same here. Lost like 35 pounds and went from 6" to 7".

Dick that is a hair over 5 1/2inches and I have big balls that makes my bulge look amazing in underwear. I pose in front of the mirror in my underwear and know I would go gay for a clone of myself. I'm quite happy with what I got.

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99.5% of the population can also get laid, so why are you still using your hand friendo ;^)

Projection, son.

What's that site that lets you calculate dick volume and ranks is against a room of 100 other guys?

1/8 try harder

But am I wrong? :)

>knowing for a fact that the only reason you feel anything at all is because that man you're crazy about is horny and you made him horny

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I told you to try harder

When someone burns you, don't act like a fucking beta. You troll harder.

Are you this beta IRL? I'm a literal soyboy and all it took was 5/10 bantz to turn you into this?

Get your shit together. Stop eating puss and shit while you're at it ;^)

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;^)

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same but im 9"x7" and 7' and make $300k starting as a manager at wendy's

>comparing the lives of animals that were bred for the sole purpose of human consumption to that of an actual human
If you value your own life to be as meaningless as that of a farm cow's, than so be it. I mean, I'm not sure what else to expect from a self-proclaimed soyboy. But luckily, most people aren't that fucking beta. Probably because, unlike you, they take in the animal proteins that their brains need in order to function properly.

Never said humans and cows are equal friendo

Why are you so fucking bad at this? Maybe it's all that estrogen.

The human brain also runs on glucose, but you're trolling so what does it matter?

;^)

>vegan
>using estrogen as an insult
Ironic. How's that soylent? I heard you guys have trouble opening the bottles.

>the human brain runs on glucose
Not that I expect a vegan to know much about biology or anything, but that's a massive oversimplification
>anyone who disagrees with me is trolling
Lmao, you gonna start saying "ok sweety" next?

brains run on glucose and the puss you refer to as dairy contains literal estrogen

Not anywhere near the amount found in soy products. It is also a very good source of protien, which completely counteracts the small amount of estrogen anyway.

Also, just a reminder that (in true vegan fashion) you felt the need to tell everyone you're a vegan despite this being a thread about a completely unrelated topic.

I never said I was a vegan

Soybeans don't contain any estrogen

Dairy is over 70% fat by calories

I didn't detail this thread, you did

>I never said I was a vegan
You made it seem that way.
>Soybeans don't contain any estrogen
Soy products contain estrogen.
>Dairy is over 70% fat by calories
But contains protien, vitamins and minerals, and healthy fats depending on the type of food.
>I didn't detail this thread, you did
Assuming you're the same person I responded to initially, yeah, ya did.

Soybeans contain zero mammalian estrogen

Go find a peer reviewed source that shows pants using animal hormones

You won't.

Soyboy is a joke made by a literal Infowars homosexual taking soy pills. But do you know what's worse? Being a literal cuck for America's Dairy: defending them (poorly) online without taking any money.

Wish I could make this shit up. Keep slurping up all that literal mamalian estrogen.

Fucking kek

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Consumption of soy products have a proven increase effect on estrogen levels. Why do you think doctors put some women on soy therapy (essentially consuming more soy) when their estrogen levels are too low?
>pic related
I don't care if you choose not to hurt animals, I really don't. But acting like a self-righeous special snowflake because you deprive yourself of certain foods is where I'm gonna call you out.

>Asked for peer reviewed proof
>Got none
That's what I thought

Do you call everyone who corrects you a special snowflake?

>>Asked for peer reviewed proof
>>Got none
Jorge E. Chavarro, Thomas L. Toth, Sonita M. Sadio, Russ Hauser.Soy food and isoflavone intake in relation to semen quality parameters among men from an infertility clinic. Oxford Journals Hum. Reprod. (2008) 23 (11): 2584-2590.
According to researchers, men who regularly consume foods containing soy, soy milk, and soy isoflavones are more likely to suffer from alower sperm count. Obese and overweight men are at the highest risks of decreased sperm concentration, as a result of soy consumption.
>Do you call everyone who corrects you a special snowflake?
I'm not calling you a special snowflake for disagreeing with me, I'm calling you one for acting like you're better than everyone because of how you eat. You have no other interesting or redeeming qualities, so you use your diet as a way to stand out and act as if you're superior, and you're sure to let everyone know that, "Hey guys! Did you know I'm vegan?"

>niggerus veganus reveals himself

Is a 6x5.5 penis any good?

Perfect... the ideal size for fucking traps and twinks. No much good if you're into girls tho. .

Don't listen to , that's fine for fucking chicks.

>Not drinking oat milk

S m h t b h lad

It contains phytoestrogens, which mimics estrogen. You redditspacer. Head on back, you have to go.

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Gotta work with what you have, OP .. simple as that

Average is fine man. Sure most of us would prefer an inch or 2 extra but you gotta deal with what you've got. I've got a mate who's hung like a horse and his ex split with him because she couldn't enjoy sex with him due to his size, so it goes both ways. Be happy with your tackle, and stop over thinking it

Is my penis average then? lower or higher average?

yo, i got a 6x5 dick. would that even please a girl whos experienced with anything bigger?

Average is anywhere between 5.1" to 5.5" based on what study you look at. Average girth tends to have much less variation (extraordinarily thicc dicks being rarer than extraordinarily long dicks), with average being anywhere between 4.5" to 4.8". So you're slightly above average (well within normal) in length and significantly above average in girth. When measuring girth, remember to measure at the BASE of your dick.

I'm 7" x 5", so well above in length and slightly above in girth.

See

checked but what about the last part of the question

Well this is going to be anecdotal, but I've seen girls say that some big guys just assume that they can slack off in bed because they assume that they're naturally going to be better because of their big dick, but aren't. A smaller (average to slightly above average) guy typically gives more effort and thus are better lovers. This of course is anecdotal and there are guys with big dicks who put out a lot of effort too. That's just what I've heard one woman say from experience.

Also remember that, just like there's such a thing as too small that there's also too big. As I said, I have a 7" dick (not what I would consider "huge" but certainly above average). My ex was 5'3", maybe 100lbs. She could barley take it. I had to be careful.

so then basically if the bigger dude put in as much effort im fucked on a physical level

How often would a girl encounter a big dick that is a great lover as well? 1/1000?1/1,000,000?

You're getting to a point where you're worried way too much. It's not like she's going to be creating a fucking tier list in her mind of each guy she's been with. Plus, if she's been with that many guys, you probably shouldn't even bother with her to begin with.

I’m so happy that men are insecure about something they can’t control since they made it their life’s mission to harass and belittle women for not meeting up with their unrealistic standards, that revolve around almost every body part attached to us :)

Being slim isn't an unrealistic standard, all you have to be is literally healthy and slim. Is that really difficult?

you better have a job and a big dick too, otherwise shell get tired of you and find someone superior to you in any way

Not the poster you responded to and they paint an inaccurate picture. But I do want to point out that guys tend to underestimate how much can be "wrong" with a female body that you can't do much about. Not having a defined waist/having a broad midsection is one of the most universally unattractive things in a female body, and there's nothing that can be done about it. Many of the things men ridicule in women (pancake nipples, roast beef pussy, saggy tits) are genetic. Imo when men say women only need to be slim they underestimate how many women don't have an hourglass or pear shape to begin with, but are built like a fridge, have narrow shoulders and boy hips etc.

Women who have those traits are rare though user I understand that if you do have those traits then yes you are screwed but there are more things a man has to do and be to even get a woman, just being good looking and fit isn't enough for a woman while this is normally enough for a man.

Men can have deformities too.

This is still a huge simplification of the real situation.

There's also compatibility in terms of turn ons, no matter what you are willing to accommodate, it's not the same thing as being legitimately turned on by the same things naturally.

Some elements of sexual skills are not a matter of effort but of talent - a sense of rhythm greatly helps with fluid thrusting, and lining up different things with a sense of purpose rather than randomly doing one thing after another. But if you don't have it you just don't.
Same for natural sensuality. If you're the kind of person who loves to use your senses and is very in tune with what you feel, you can touch a body with a kind of wonder, sensitivity and creativity that someone who gets much less out of it wouldn't even think of doing.

There's how much you like sex. Despite the meme that all men ever want to fuck any woman ever, men who aren't that sexually focused definitely exist. It's easy to fuck like bunnies in the honeymoon phase, being still sincerely, viscerally psyched to fuck the woman you've been fucking forever after years together is not something every man has in him by a long shot.

There's confidence: the difference between a lover who relishes in being pleasured, happily shows off his body, doesn't hesitate to do something "weird" in the heat of a moment is day and night with someone who cramps up when his stomach is touched because of some padding, who gets visibly frustrated when a move doesn't get as strong a physical response as he'd hoped, who goes "what? what's so funny?" when something makes you laugh during.

>tl;dr being decent at sex is fairly straightforward, being amazing at sex not at all

Im above average but ill never use it anyways
Celibacy is some shit

>Women who have those traits are rare though user
They aren't, nor are they "deformities". Your perception is just skewed because the women showcased online fall into the categories of the most beautiful in terms of proportions, and they typically play it up with angles, pic related. If a woman is holding her arms over her head for a picture, her boobs are higher and her waist looks slimmer than they would otherwise be. Leaning up against something? Spreads out her hips a little, making them look broader. Standing on tiptoes (or wearing heels) gives the legs and ass extra definition it otherwise doesn't have. These pictures are in no way representative of what an average (slim!) woman looks like.

Clothes are also designed to make women look as hourglass-y as possible, regardless of their personal shape.

Having said this, I was mostly arguing that men do care about specific physical traits rather than just being fit/slim. They just don't realize how much variation there is in female bodytypes compared to what's shown and/or faked.
I do agree that women have a lot more "criteria", absolutely. But the coin has two sides. As discouraging as it can be for men to feel like women have many expectations while they are just looking for a "sweet, cute girl", it is also often discouraging to women that men seem to care a whole lot less about personality, ambition, intelligence etc. Obviously a sensible man values these things, but they don't seem to be nearly as directly erotic as they are to women. Basically, men resent women for not having their attraction work in the exact same way, and women do the same in turn.

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Ah I see now, I agree then seeing as no matter how slim you are you can't change having a fridge figure or whatever.

I think that is mainly because of our forced role even in modern society that we need to have the personality, the ambition to achieve great things, to be intelligent etc. that isn't put as much on women, hell women I know at least arent pressured into learning how to drive.

I value the whole package being slim, looks, personality, ambition, intelligence etc. but I understand most men don't which is a shame hell I'd love my woman to be strong but they are rare to find.

I'm sure there's reasons for it, and it's relatively easy to avoid anyway. I only date one person and I make sure to select someone who's looking for someone he feels on the same wavelength with and not just a pretty human puppy to have around and fuck. Just like any sensible man is looking for a woman who likes him not just for his "stats" and success but also for his body, smile, and so on.

It was rather meant to say that your own priorities or those of your sex are more natural/you're more used to them, but it all depends on perspective. Men say women don't like men as much "as they are" because they have important additional criteria. Women say men are shallow because they don't have those, and this means they don't like women as much for the people they are inside. There's a case to make for either outlook, they both make "sense" in their own way.

on the topic of average dicks, would mine still feel good to a woman whos had bigger? im 6" dunno about girth but it seems about average.

If you're worried that she's stretched out or whatever, that's not a thing. The vagina is designed to take a pounding and the vaginal walls are lined with muscle tissue. It's not comparable to "passive" tissue getting stretch, like an earlobe or whatever, it keeps itself in shape.

Obviously there's a possibility that she loved it bigger, which depends on a variety of things, among which how deep her pussy is, and whether cervix hits feel painful or pleasurable to her. As has been mentioned in the thread though, a big dick has potential downsides as well as upsides, including making oral sex more difficult, not always being able to go balls deep.

Most important of all though, the dick size is but one element of sex, which is a complete experience. Even if she likes a 7" dick better that doesn't mean she liked sex with her 7" dicked lover better. It is very easy to not make sex fun, e.g. picture a girl with a perfect body and snug elastic little pussy, who keeps sighing and rolling her eyes while she allows you to touch her.

Also, don't let internet statistics deceive you, 6" is big in itself.

That's a little over average. You can certainly make that work. The average man is built for the average woman.

ok so, does make it work mean my dick is the bare minimum? like its just passable?