Christian, convervative traditionalism from Western cvilization built the world. From the West...

Friendly reminder to all of my Catholic bros:

If you regularly attend the Novus Ordo Missae, you are part of the problem!

Pax Domini tecum

Wrong. Stay salty mudshit.

No.
Greek philosophy did.
The Greeks quite literally fueled both the Islamic Golden Age and the Renaissance.

God have mercy on the lost. They do not know who they are against.

Just came into this thread to say I'm already fighting with Christians in another thread and none of them have yet to acknowledge my source. They simply side skirt all of it. You're all cucks, and you're all stupid. I can post sources all night long that the bible is bullshit. None of you can refute them. Have a good day.

>white men built Greece
>white men built Rome
>white men built western civilization
Christianity is a setback if anything.
It's a mix of Babylon and Rome.

S E E T H I N G

>implying the Renaissance itself was not part of the overall involution of the West

Why did Isaac Newton give credit to Pythagoras for his work rather than Jesus

Actually I just have 15 more minutes on my shift. Arguing with others makes the time go by faster. Religious arguments are the best because no one really knows the answer. However, Chirstians usually ignore history, so even if I don't have the complete answer, I like setting Christcucks up to fail. It's more fun that way.

Cause he used Math.

The biggest change in the Renaissance was the renewed interest in Greek philosophy, particularly in Plato, facilitated by the Medici's and Pletho, that led to formerly lost works to be retranslated back from Arabic.

It's not a coincidence it was an era of Astronomy. Look at any painting of Renaissance Astronomers and pay attention to the tools they used.

>CaUsE hE uSeD mAtH
Articulated quite like a Christian.

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Imagine what a shit life someone must have to be sitting at work doing nothing but seething about Christians day in and day out. I truly do feel sorry for you. You''ll be in my prayers.

Imagine what a shit life someone must have to be sitting at home doing nothing but thinking about anonymous posters on Jow Forums day in and day out. I truly do feel sorry for you. You''ll be praying to a Jewish god that doesn't listen.

Measure time by Jesus not Greeks romans or anything else. This makes him most important person ever. If just for that reason.

Reminder that Christianity only thrived because the Romans absorbed the religion. Without the civilisation THEY had built centuries before the dead kike on a stick, Christianity would've never become anything beyond the desert cult it actually is.

Not to mention western Christians only really begin to make contributions to philosophy and science after the recovery of Aristotle in the 11th century.

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Oh no friend. It's not just Christians. You just happen to be the easiest demographic to pick on.

>Measure time by Jesus not Greeks romans or anything else
The Gregorian calendar is based on the Julian calendar, retard.

Most of his Physics and Math is based on older works in that field you dumb nigger.

>Nigger calls Sir Isaac Newton and Pythagoras niggers

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I called you a nigger.
Those guy were top tier whites.

It really wasn't the "magic" of Christianity, it was just Europeans that were guided together, also under harsh conditions that pushed them to greatness, not letting the weak live as our socialist countries now allow, which the strong rised up and had their say. Remember it was this apparent perfect Christianity in Europe that lead to the current state of Europe. If it was so perfect why couldn't it be maintained? Don't forget: it gave Jews the foothold when it came to finances which lead to our destruction. Science was curbed under the Church too, great minds were afraid to speak on many things. Christians deny eugenics, which is key to quality and success of life, and great European minds agreed with it but was dismissed by the Christians. Ancient Greece and Rome weren't Christian, actually they fell under Christianity too.

We can have Christianity today implemented and our holes still wide open to the immigrant influx here, becuz they can be just as Chrisssion as we cus we all Gads children! The more you follow Christ the more submissive you become, a lot of what the Churches did went against Christianity, total non-pacifist actions. Really it was just based white people manipulating something that gave Europeans purpose to strive, just as national socialism would have been. White people need a new framework but now that's getting a bit too late, we're done at this point. Christianity in its forms brought collectiveness to whites, non-degeneracy and some sense of purpose to humans at the time with great biology, not Christ himself.

>Shitskin Afro-Nigger claims European pagans didn't do shit
>Get fucking called out
>REEEEEs
Isaac Newton had one of the biggest pagan libraries of his era.

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Christianity has the best parts of Greek philosophy without the autistism and pedophilia.

>Christianity has the best parts of Greek philosophy

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Hope you're vegan.

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>Most of his Physics and Math is based on older works of math like those of Pythagoras
You lack reading comprehension.

No way.

Ever head of the enlightenment? It was basically when smart people figured out that god was made up, and started doing science. That was a long time ago: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Enlightenment
("International historians begin the period in the 1620s")

And if my grandma had a dick she would be my grandad. The fact is that Christianity is the backbone of what we call western civilization while fedoralords and larpagans are aspects of modernity.

>Christianity has the best parts of Greek philosophy
Not even close.
It completely ditched most of the mathematics, the astronomical models of planets orbiting the sun, the proto-big bang theory and underlying reason for why they thought there was only one God - precisely because it contradicted the ideal of the Jewish personal God.

Beyond this, Christians decimated libraries of pagan knowledge preserved from Alexandria and elsewhere because they are SJW-tier NPCs filled with ressentiment and slave morality.

What did they give you in return? Brainwashing to hate your own cultural ancestors.
>without the autistism
I believe you mean "science"
>and pedophilia.
Are you implying Plato was a pedophile?
Exactly the kind of Christian dishonesty I expect. You are terrible people who cannot get anything right. You just want people to hate their native cultural legacies as much as you do.

The Christian utopia is a multiethnic society where all the niggers are Christians alongside you.

Fuck off.

Lol, you're fuckong dumb.

christianheadlines.com/blog/report-reveals-3-677-sex-abuse-cases-in-german-catholic-church.html

>The fact is that Christianity is the backbone of what we call western civilization
Lmao are you really Greek? No way an actual Greek user can be this dismissive of his own heritage.
The backbone of western civilisation is ALL pagan Greece and Rome. This isn't even a discussion. Christianity merely reaped what they had sown centuries before.
Suck Orthocock all you want but this is fact.

Mathematics and astronomy are not philosophy. Either way there were many Christians scietists and still are.
Christianity and science should go hand in hand, taking Christianity out of science leads us in situations like this
youtube.com/watch?v=VtJFb_P2j48

>Christians decimated libraries of pagan knowledge
Pure conspiracy theory
>Are you implying Plato was a pedophile?
Are you implying that pedophilia was not, and still is, common in pagan societies?

>Mathematics and astronomy are not philosophy.
Get a load of this pleb.
He doesn't even know anything about his own fucking culture. This is your nation on Christcuckery.

It was more than Philosophy, it was facets of the academy religion.

Greeks are Orthodox. Everyone who changed religion is now Albanian or Turk.
And Greek is both ethnical and religious identity, you can't be Greek if you are not Orthodox.

Nice try Satan
Still mathematics and astronomy are not philosophy

"All is Number" is the central tenet of Pythagorean philosophy, fag.

Nigger don't you know Jesus was not a mathematician ?
That'll be like crediting Adolf Hitler for my Onion soup

I guess that explains why pagan Greece will forever be remembered as one of the greatest civilisations in history and the major contributor to the development of the West, while modern Greece is Germany's cock sleeve.

>huur all is number
t. mutt reading facebook quotes
Only vice news cares about Greek paganism and some ex-marxists who larp as pagans now. The actual Greek pagans of the ancient world became Christians.
youtube.com/watch?v=SBpNu4_TP9w

Pagan Greece will ne remembered precisely thanks to Christianity saving and enhancing their work.
Plus you seem to forget Byzantium.

This is materialist christianity. You are committing heresy.

>scandinavians are niggers without christianity
>shitskins are decent people with

Wrong on both occasions

>A protestant tells me I'm an heretic
Lol

>Pure conspiracy theory
Wrong. It's a historical fact that the daughter library to the Library of Alexandria was pillaged and destroyed.

There are also differing Byzantine Libraries which were destroyed incited by Christians.
It's incalculable how much those inspired by Abrahamic religion purposefully destroyed.
>Are you implying that pedophilia was not, and still is, common in pagan societies?
You have to be an absolute retard to imply all the pagans did it.

But hey, since we're playing that, guess you're a pedophile, right? Since worldwide Christian leaders are notorious for diddling millions of children for centuries. You are the leaders of pedophilia across the free world.

Congrats, Chester, you disgusting fucking FAGGOT.

In case you ever decide to shut the fuck up and educate yourself, here's a copy of Plato's Complete Works and Lives of Eminent Philosophers by Diogenes Laertius.

ia600808.us.archive.org/24/items/platocompleteworkscollection/(Plato) Plato_Complete_Works.pdf

ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/d/diogenes_laertius/lives_of_the_eminent_philosophers/complete.html

You're welcome, maybe with a little education about Western civilization you'll cease to be such a self depricating cucklord and stop diddling children you disgusting fucker.

What did Christian Greece accomplish in the last 500 years?

>Nigger don't you know Jesus was not a mathematician ?
You mean the guy who possessed the wisdom of God couldn't do math? What the fuck? Was he illiterate too?
>he never wrote a book
FUCK
See,
Read a book you nigger.

>Pagan Greece will ne remembered precisely thanks to Christianity saving and enhancing their work.
Uhhhh, Islam preserved more about the Greeks than Christians did, and I'm not about to thank Islam.

I didn't. One of the reasons why the Byzantine empire wasn't as bad as the western half was for over 500 years was because they didn't lose the works of of pagan Greece. Preserving them was their single greatest achievement because otherwise they wouldn't have shit to work with, like the western Christians were until the recovered Aristotle through the Muslim expansion into the Iberian peninsula.

Again, Christianity didn't create nor build anything. Everything it has was taken from the pagan civilisations that came before it.

Why would Christians burn down libraries to hide the "pagan wisdom" on the one hand, but work their asses to preserve pre-Christian literacy? Only in Athos there're a ton of ancient manuscripts.
>But hey, since we're playing that, guess you're a pedophile, right? Since worldwide Christian leaders are notorious for diddling millions of children for centuries
The difference is that those Christians that you say are doing what they're doing AGAINST Christian teachings. In pagan societies pedophilia and trangenderism was statutory and part of their religious mythology. Zeus did not discrimitate between beautyful girls and boys, he was fucking them all.

>saying that Christianity accomplished shut is heresy

You must be sven the baptist, you autist

*shit

...

>pls educate me on history senpai
The basic gestalt is that Christians were by large historically illiterate peasants. When Christianity was made the official religion, they formed SJW-tier lynchmob brigades to attack the Pagan academies formerly in power, raiding academies and destroying their contents.

Because Christians at the time were mostly total dumbfucks who only wanted power, it didn't matter the value of what they destroyed, they just knew that they hated the pagans.

Within Greece there remained a little more sensibility regarding this, although not a lot. Since Christians persecuted the Neoplatonists into fleeing Rome into the Middle East where they influenced the Islamic Golden Age and formed the House of Wisdom.

BTW nice try backpedaling on what a pedo you are. Your religious leaders fuck boy asses and probably sodomized you too. You're a fag and also probably a pedo.

Ok you clearly are a trolling shill so I won't respond to you anymore

>get fucking told
>"y-you're a troll"
By your logic we should all be grateful for Islam. Gee thanks Christcuck for not burning absolutely everything to the ground you stupid fucking frog faggot.

and that's why you write in english, and count years since the birth of christ

Get off your high horse, dude.

you talk much for having no argument against OP

We use arabic numerals and latin script, brainlet.

Nice fanfict. Good thing that they'll throw you in an asylum if you say those stuff outside of the internet.

and your point is?
no culture grows in a vacuum
and western, chrsitian civ is no exception
but there's more to it than the numerals: is how you use them, what you calculate with them, the distances of the empires you build you measure with them
> muh numerals
so much cope

Sure I do. I just said I was in another thread arguing. Are you Helen Keller? Are you deaf, dumb and blind? I hear Jesus can only cure one of those, sorry you'll be dumb forever.

Yeah basically, atheists and larpers are cancer and mostly shills. Jow Forums was mostly Christian and agnostic before 2016.

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The west didn't recovered the writing of Aristotle thanks to the Muslims, it preserved them thanks to monks in monasteries and exchanges with Byzantium.

>Christianity didn't create nor build anything. Everything it has was taken from the pagan civilisations that came before it.
This can be said of every single civilization, we always take what our ancestors left us and enhance or worsen it. Christianity took Roman architecture and enhanced it, eventually leading to Gothic architecture. Christians took ancient philosophy and enhanced it through the light of the teachings of the Christ

Get right
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Put the emphasis on WAS before the Muslim raped the non-Muslim culture Achmed.

still no arguments
and you surely mention dumb a lot for someone that doesn't even know how to crosslink

>Simplicius of Cilicia[1] (/sJmˈplJʃiəs/; Greek: Σιμπλίkιος ὁ Κίλιξ; c. 490 – c. 560[2]) was a disciple of Ammonius Hermiae and Damascius, and was one of the last of the Neoplatonists. He was among the pagan philosophers persecuted by Justinian in the early 6th century, and was forced for a time to seek refuge in the Persian court
>It has been speculated that the Academy did not altogether disappear.[37][39] After his exile, Simplicius (and perhaps some others) may have travelled to Harran, near Edessa. From there, the students of an Academy-in-exile could have survived into the 9th century, long enough to facilitate an Arabic revival of the Neoplatonist commentary tradition in Baghdad,[39] beginning with the foundation of the House of Wisdom in 832; one of the major centers of learning in the intervening period (6th to 8th centuries) was the Academy of Gundishapur in Sassanid Persia.
>Neoplatonism ostensibly survived in the Eastern Christian Church as an independent tradition and was reintroduced to the West by Pletho (c.1355 – 1452/1454), an avowed pagan and opponent of the Byzantine Church, inasmuch as the latter, under Western scholastic influence, relied heavily upon Aristotelian methodology. Plethon's Platonic revival, following the Council of Florence (1438–1439), largely accounts for the renewed interest in Platonic philosophy which accompanied the Renaissance.

>and your point is?
Your argument was absolutely retarded and so are you. It was made crystal clear but, well, you're retarded so I guess I should have anticipated having to spoonfeed the point to you.

Except you told nothing but only purposely misinterpreted what I wrote with obvious bad faith

>enhanced it
Not really.
Platonic and Stoic philosophy remains to this day better than Christian philosophy. You've only had 2000 years to figure your shit out.

> muh name calling
another one bites the dust

No, I verbally demolished you with pure logic, you should take notes so you don't look like a mental handicap in the future.

If you don't want to be called retarded then don't be a retard.

still waiting for an argument while you hide your insecurities behind 14 year old grade posts

That's because I'm walking my doggo and it's cold. Just ask to have a civil discussion and i'll gladly participate.

>still waiting for an argument
Your crippling mental deficiency isn't subject for debate, it's objective fact.

>Why didn't Newton credited Jesus but Pythagoras instead
>Pure logic
You're embarrassing yourself

>The west didn't recovered the writing of Aristotle thanks to the Muslims, it preserved them thanks to monks in monasteries and exchanges with Byzantium
Lol no, there was barely any exchange with Byzantium during the Late Antiquity/Early Middle Ages. Aristotle got into the west through the Muslims. That's why all the first translations were from the Arabic and not from Greek.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recovery_of_Aristotle

>This can be said of every single civilization
Yeah, but that's not what OP was claiming. He claimed that Christianity "built" the world when it was already built by the time his ancestors began worshiping a dead kike on a stick. Mathematics, architecture, philosophy, you name it, none of that was thanks to Christianity but thanks to pagan Greece and Rome.

You -are- aware that Newton didn't actually have anything BY Pythagoras to reference from, right?

I know that as a Christian you are probably black and have a 70 IQ but this is pretty common knowledge known by 1st graders.

Platonic philosophy is mainly retarded.
Stoicism depends on which stoicism you're talking about. Diogenes ? Marcus Aurelius ?

so you got nothing, in several posts, zero, zilch, not managed a single counterargument, not a sentence, and it wasn't that difficult, to be fair
I thought you were on your shift

next time you want to come and shit on a thread, make sure you're mentally ready. you're wasting everybody's time. you can now come up with your wittiest response, I'm outta here

>Platonic philosophy is mainly retarded.
Coming from the guy who believes the Old Testament word for word that is absolutely rich.