Fascism

>failed every time it was tried
>"n-not true fascism"

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Except nobody says that. Unlike Commie retards, Fascists would rather examine what worked and what didn't and create a better fascist state. Commies want to bring back shit that never worked because they are braindead.

It was tried and successful. It took an entire world to stop one nation

cringe

It was true fascism, not Germany because it was national socialism. It also never failed as a system in itself as far as I know, it was always brought down by external causes/death or resigning of the dictator.

Are there exception to this rule? Maybe in Africa or South America?

It was successful though. There weren't famines like in communist shitholes. They just lost the war against the world.

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Dumbfuck Amerishart

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hitler was an out of touch mong

fascism will never be fully realized because you can’t make 100% of a nations population realize the crimes inherently committed by sub races

debate me, im drunk celebrating my nations patriachial uber holiday

Facism was betrayed every time and it failed due go that. Communism was given the tools and the lack of defiance and still failed.

*Drops mic*

>the literal "there's socialism in the name therefore its socialist" meme


How do you tie your own shoelaces?

NS was only tried once and it was objectively very successful. A healthy nation that recovered economically, won the the Olympic games, protected its own race and promoted fine art and culture. It was only destroyed from the outside with brute force after a long and hard fight. Jews succeeded to make Whites (USA, UK, France) to attack Germany. That Hitler was right about everything can be seen today, when Western countries are being flooded by an endless number of Africans.

We never say it wasn't true fascism
The world did what they could to silence it through military invasion

Fascism isn’t a system. It’s a premise that any system can be built on.

Varg is right.

bullshit. it WAS true fascism, thats why people like/hate it

>lost a war
>LOL DIDN'T WORK
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Quality > quantity

Germany simply lacked the numbers -- but was clearly the better option.

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this although fascism and natsoc are two different things

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Lol at all these Hitlerinas

Fascism is the idea of the state controlling the morals of society. It worked exceedingly well. National socialism on the other hand...not really it plunged germany into massive debt before the war even began

The odds were stacked against them.

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Memeflag opinions don’t count

National Socialism is a very german-centric ideology. It also has racial elements that lack in many forms of fascism.

The world will evolve slowly to a Neofascism. At least Europe, because it will be our only way to survive. Europeans have been too much comfortable for the last 70 years and they have become weak. Neofascism will make Europeans strong again.

LEL not at the rate the world’s population is growing, euros will be drowning in a sea of brown and black come thirty years, not a single nation (let alone first world ones/superpowers) have an answer to third worlders procreation levels, better start prepping

Hopefully nobody will create an ethnic virus that simply wipes out the Africans, because that would be a crime against humanity.

Dude, bombs kill many people at a time, wars, etc. And there is also things like walls and the military in the border so any nigger/muslim get into your country anymore. I know that this is not going to happen in the majority of Europe soon but we will reach that point.

god pleas grant this one lonely thanksgiving wish

Why is an american talking about fascism?

senior espana im with you, if we elected the right people then we could see a change against these things but it certainly is (current year), and it certainly is harder to realize such legislation actually practically protecting citizens as such. might as well get drunk about it all together

Never going to happen. Why do you think they import millions of foreigners? Because these foreigners will always vote against your interests. Thus a violent revolution will be the only answer and that will never happen unless people are pushed to the brink. Most people are comformists. As long as they have some bread and can watch their favorite tv show, they are content.

Tell me why in every european country a new far-right party is growing in votes then.

>failed every time it was tried
But OP, Fascism has not yet been tried.

What was Mussolini's Italy then?

Name once it failed

Fascism didn't fail. It was rather successful but it was beaten in wars.

Y I K E D AND C R I N G E D

TWO SCOOPS OF SPOOK, KID, TWO SIDES OF THE SAME COIN. SAME NON-ARGUMENT IN BOTH INSTANCES.

CRINGED HARD

National Socialist. Mussolini was a socialist and was initially a part of the Italian Socialist party... Mussolini was basically shunned out of the party because of his nationalist views that conflicted with the Socialist party at the time. He formed a Fascist party; however, it was just a name, not an ideology. Just like how in best Korea they have the Social Democratic party: are they democratic though? Mussolini's party was basically the same as the Nazi party but with a name that did not reflect the ideology.

Uh. It was pretty successful, tbhfam.

Why is the left so dependent of stealing our arguments to make their own arguments?

It was succesful though. Spain under Franco was clean, functioned well, and generally thrived.

another dick who wants to rule the world better than the last asshole

Lol it didn't fail, it just lost a war which is not really the same.

So who was the real fascist? Fascism has not been tried then? Interesting, I always thought that Mussolini was the real fascist regime. So it was more pseudo-communism with nationalism?

>So who was the real fascist?

unironically franco.

>So who was the real fascist?
IMO, the closest empire to facsism was the Roman's during the conquering of Gaul.

>Fascism has not been tried then?
Not yet. Fascism is actually a difficult style of rule to accomplish.

>So it was more pseudo-communism with nationalism?
Yea, basically.

Franco was National-Catholicism. A fascist can't be catholic.

>Fascism is actually a difficult style of rule to accomplish.
Why?

>A fascist can't be catholic.

the good pope was.

Commies detected.

>Franco sat there and jacked off for 30 years before accepting (((free market reforms))) and tried to pass it off as his success

It was working but ego led to getting jumped

I don't know his story but as far as I know Fascism is atheist.

Lol no one says that, but it took like half the world to defeat a couple of fascist states so

It didn't fail in Greece you stupid potato nigger... In fact we had our 7 best years in our modern history under fascism...

Spain was alright
Greece was alright
South america was alright
Germany lost a war against the entire world but that has nothing to do with the system
When did it fail?

Zombie Metaxis 2019

>Why?
I'm just going to bullet list it. Here are some requisites, I believe:
- your empire needs a strong leader; not many of those anymore.
- there needs to be an established and well fortified honor system.
- there needs to be high level of trust and integrity between the leader and citizens, and between the citizens.
- there needs to be a strong military that has good leaders that are loyal to the leader of the country; once again, not many of those.
- the entire nation needs to support whatever the leader says and does; sadly, not going to happen.

>be irish
>starve

Because they have to be told their arguments and regurgitate them such as
>Poor = crime
>Diversity is our strength
So they regurgitate ours whether it makes sense to our not

It did work, germany only fell due to bad military planning on hitler’s part

It didn't fail, we failed it, we were led astray but jewish lies. Churchill was a traitor who doomed the UK and Europe at large.

You're correct. A facsist government would need to be secular. Religion conflicts with government; always has and always will. With fascism, there can only be government.

It never failed within a country, it could only be stopped by war.

fascism works.
Eu is still running and the old nazis all fled to the US and lived happily ever after and now the US is under a constant state of "emergency" thanks to the patriot act like under Hitler back then

shouldn't have declared war on the world then...

death or gladioluses my friend

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Commies are idealistic utopians.

Communism touts itself as the purest, most perfect form of government, a government that will create perfect societies with zero poverty and full productivity. As a result, communist doctrine is so sacred that only heads of state are allowed to have their own interpretations (and even then, some people diss Mao Tse-tung as >not a real communist just because his take on communism was different from Lenin's).

To communists, a government can only be considered "real communism" if 1.- it's implemented by the book (which excludes modern China), and 2.- if it creates a functional country (which excludes all forms of communism). Therefore, real communism to them is doomed to never be implemented, ever. That's where their idealism comes into play: when communism fails, they plain refuse to give up hope, because hope is the last thing to die, and they say OK IT FAILED BUT WE'LL DO IT RIGHT THIS TIME.

This is very much unlike fascists and right wingers in general, who are much more likely to be realistic and as a result more likely to return to the drawing board, think about what went wrong and making the necessary changes to avoid these problems in the future. Right wingers in general are much more aware that nothing is perfect and unexpected problems may arise at all times, and are much more willing to make changes to the original idea in order to make it work.

Why is an American complaining about Americans talking about fascism?

That's exactly the point, the people in power are trying to bring tons of people with a 99% chance of not voting fascist in an attempt to curb this new trend.

Not a nazilover but I don't think they really had a choice, the jewish lobby and international banking wouldn't have allowed a powerful nation like Germany to have an economy and government that wasn't controlled by them whatsoever and wasn't based on debt.
He probably made a good decision in attacking first before the rest of the world had a chance to strengthen, just wasn't enough.
Just my opinion, obviously we'll never know

That was national socialism and it worked until the eternal anglo declared war on behalf its jewish masters.

>spain
>chile

fascists are idealistic dystopians, they pretty much think the world is basicly warhammer 40k on earth.
and partialy they are even correct. but they do over do it a bit.
the NS government was fully aware that they were overstretching the economy with their militarisation that's the reason they were so aggressive in war because it was clear that this mode could not be sustained for very long

This

It’s not Marxist socialism, but it is socialism, which doesn’t necessarily mean bad. It obviously worked out pretty well in Germany until the Jews told Churchill to attack them

Fpbp

Buy our GMO food or get fucked by our trade deals and CIA .
Fascism hasn't failed especially when you can't notice it .

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>commies try communism
>failure
>try again
>fail
>try again
>fail
>"those times i failed didn't count"

>white nat tries white nationalism
>it works so well that it takes the entire world to just barely defeat it
>the jews try to seal it away by making it a tabu
>it rings so true that they are starting to have trouble with that

That's not fascism, that's just hegemonic geopolitics.

The laziest of skimming through Mein Kampf or actually listening to Hitler when he speaks would show the NSDAP were extremely socialist, with nationalist sensibilities. Hence, nationalized socialism. The flag of the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei was mostly red for a reason.

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nazis had no choice but attack, i am not a fan of their weird unbilogical race ideology, but their military strategy was sound

>the udssr was an expansionist force basicly world domination as endgame
>attack would happen at some point
>poland was not willing to allign with germany
>germany needs to attack russia from a position relatively far east to reach the russian industrial centers in the first offensive so the russians could not use their massive amounts of resources.
>also germany would have easier fight with red army if the fight would happen not as far from home
>partition of poland was basicly strategic masterpiece
>at same time clock was ticking germanys oil reserves were limited , attack in the west was iminent as england was not willing to joing anti communist alliance and france had was to get fucked for being a adick at verseilles.
>attack france in madman plan B maneuver and get lucky
time still ticking french economy eats even more of germanys oil reserve
>invasion of russia with a possible sucessful outcome had a time window hitler decide dto use it
>germany was not able to sustain long war because reservist system was offline bc verseilles for a time
>germanys only chance at defeating soviets was in one decisive blow
>lebensraum im osten was brest livitosk+ maybe some region from new peace with an anticommunist russia.
>western allies supported soviets with transport vehicles , fuel and supplys,
this shifted the war as soviets moved troops faster than axis powers could get ammunition and replacement parts
>first failed offensive of the war for wehrmacht at stalingrad
>25% of fighting troop of the 6th army where russian volunteers.
you do not have a quarter of unreliable troops at frontline duty, a good part of russians was probably pissed of by the communists and willing to fight their own country to get rid of commies
>racial ideology of nazis still abtshit crazy but
>also foot shortage/ not enough to feed everyone, so kill

fascism is also a socialsit ideology but with a lot more focus on tradition than natsoc

did it fail on its own, or did it fail as the result of all the powers of the world ganging together in an effort to destroy them for the jews ? yeah that's what i thought. communism on the other hand...

>fascism is tried in a handful of states
>creates states that are okay, and one that is so powerful it takes the combined forces of the entire planet to grind them down in a war of attrition
>communism is tried in a shitload of states
>only time the state doesn't become a 3rd world hellhole and everybody starves to death is when it's done in one of the worlds largest powers, in which case it takes a good 20 years for everybody to starve to death.

how does the IRA even exist? I can't imagine a potato nigger smart enough to tie his shoes, nevermind make a bomb.

egas

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It'd be unbiological to deny racial differences in ability m8

i meant the fact that the nazis believed in racial or spirit or "volksgeist" or such and that a halfbreed could still be par tof the volk and that crap, they were truly too civnat

lol at fag Hitler and his razzle dazzle attire
>youtube.com/watch?v=kq4Mkqb5Aus

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fascism would have defeated the entirety of the global powers had they worn coats when they marched to russia. They were a winter coat away from world domination.

wew lad
the fucking chutzpah on these kikes

Failed because of war
Inb4 shitskin version failed different way

While Hitler maintained a certain adherence to traditional beliefs or practices. The horseshoe effect of radical politics tends to confuse the illiterate. Both are offspring of socialism. Funny how socialists reject failed socialist experiments time after time and refuse to associate with them.

>Commies want to bring back shit that never worked because they are braindead.

Not all communists are neo-Stalinists, stupid.

You are just embodying the hypocrisy pointed out by based OP.

He looks like a kid forced by his parents to go to a relative's wedding that he didn't want anything to do with.

So … you are willing to admit that Nazi Germany was brought down by outside forces … but you aren't willing to acknowledge the outside forces that helped to bring down the Soviet Union?

The stupid! It burns!

just out of curiosity, how many times has fascism been tried?
how many times has communism been tried?

Wow we killed a lot of civilians , godspeed Axis