Work is bad for society

>normies work all day long
>Come home exhausted
>Don't have the energy to think
>Don't have the energy to study deeply
>Just absorb a few minutes of TV mainstream news
>Repeat forever

No wonder why everyone is an NPC, no one has time to use their brain because of the 9-5 grind. Discuss

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Work is a blessing, to be able to earn your living is a joy and we are blessed for being able to dedicate a portion of our lives to ensure our own survival, only a jew and their book that decries labor as a curse would find an issue with the aformentioned.

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>only a jew and their book that decries labor as a curse would find an issue with the aformentioned
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I find issue with the aformentioned though user.

>work is a blessing
PFFFFAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH
just because its all you know how to do?
theres a whole world outside the kitchen pedro

That's because you've been mindfucked by kikes. The unabomber came to my conclusion about work before I was even born, if you honest to god work your job trying to improve whatever is it that you do every time that you do it you will start feeling more satisfaction, unless it's flipping burgers or work in a callcenter in which case the "labor is a curse" bit does apply.

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mutt

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When I was at school they promised 2 day working week and lots of free time.
I'm sure every generation has heard the same promises.
Yet here we go still trudging grudginly off to 'work'

Work is a means, not an end. You work so you can enjoy leisure time... don't put the cart before the horse you fucking spick

Prepare to get your mind blown chang.
Work is both the means and end.
Leisure is just a waste of time, unless it is strictly used for re-CREATION, which basically means more work outside of work.

.. and this suites the left perfectly. Misery is the driving force of leftest leaders.

I'd also like to say, relaxation after toiling is pleasurable only because of the toil, not in spite of it
ask anyone about this, you'll find out that it's true

Then grow your own food so you don't have to work for anybody, because that's the whole point of work you prissy faggot

the productivity that would allow that was turned into more profit for porky instead of less work for the slaves

There is a sort of conflation going on here. People have come to accept work as a synonym for job. Work is anything you put effort into, everyone works. Humans are unable to not work. A job however, in the modern context, is wage labor, having your work exploited by someone else, for their own profits. This very act is soul-draining, not the effort itself, but deep down the realization that you are being exploited.

The only cure is to seize the means of production, then you are working for yourself, your labor is not exploited.

You're a mexican, one of the main mutt countries, dumbass.

I was a NEET for 10 years after high school. I've been working for a couple of years now. I actually had more friends while being a NEET, no worries, and was actually enjoying my life. I can't go back now, I was extremely stupid bought into the Trump Train and got rid of my NEETbux. Jow Forums was the biggest mistake of my life and I can't go back or I'll be homeless and starve.

What's the matter /leftypol/? was your tranny infested shit-hole too slow for you to even bother or what?
To add on what you said, it's not so much that you're being exploited (which is true under a lot of circumstances) which makes labor seem like a drag, it's the idea that you should not be working. If you accepted work (your work) as part of your life purpose you would suddenly feel a lot more better about this.
Recalling the book "The art of not giving a fuck" (don't make a conclusion off just reading its title) our opinion about our lifestyle deeply affects our happiness, there's a story of where a japanese soldier fought endlessly in some shit-hole asian country fighting for years and years on end, the warrior was a happy man so long he didn't know that the war had ended and that his empire had fallen, only when he recieved the news did he feel that his entire struggle was in vain. Had he been successfully killed by the cops hunting him he would have died a very happy man, full of pride.

Brainwashed, your ancestors would be ashamed

It’s WORK. You’re not supposed to enjoy it, you lazy sack of shit. Show me a system... any system... in which a person can simply do nothing but what gives him pleasure and expect to survive.

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You're the one that is brainwashed by jewish culture, try to refute this.

Oh he used explicit language and associated work with piss and shit so therefore work must be bad.

Arbeit macht frei

Out of a job for 2months. Its getting harder to get up, you really take work for granted. I guess if you're older you could agree with this but OP I have nothing to do.

Vote Democrat!

I’m not the one working 40 hours a week whilst claiming it’s a blessing. Work for yourself or don’t bother, this new world hates us so why the fuck would you serve this satanic system to fund abortions, Jew wars, destruction of the family, single mothers, immigrants... I could go on

Your issue is not about what you toil in, but what is than about the fruits of what you toiled for.
Imagine an american soldier with boots in Syria fighting for israel while imagine a wermacht fighter fighting for his country. Imagine both of them were fully conscious of what they were fighting for? it's the same thing, they are both toiling in war, it's just what the end result that messes it up for one and gives happiness (in a prideful and dutiful sense) to the other.

Im here to convert Jow Forums
Our one (1) tranny is cute do not bully
The board is slow so when ever i get some hot new propoganda i rush to Jow Forums to try it out.

>If you accepted work (your work) as part of your life purpose
And rape can only happen if the victim decides to not want it. While this is technically true, you dont have to pick between these two things, you can simply kill all the capitalists.

You're not converting anyone faggot, you don't rely on facts like the kike brainwashed stooge you are, and that asideyour board is infested with trannies faggot, do you think we never watch?

also your line about rape is so stupid I won't even bother further than saying that it's a false analogy

not analogy but comparison* getting sleepy

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Have to agree with the mutt here, there is nothing wrong with work in and of itself. The problem is when the work you do basically propagates a cancerous society so you feel like you're basically a cog in a machine for no greater purpose then just continuing to exist.

People who retire don't really find much to do if they didn't take care to build hobbies when they were much more energetic while young, so they often end up missing work. That said if you have a wife and children (which you should, someday if not now) you'll regret working too much. Chidlren are also work.

>do you think we never watch
you probably got lost again and raided the wrong board like last time :^)

I have only the most absolute and solid facts backing me, but they are wasted on Jow Forums, too much red scare propaganda, so its only worth posting memes.

Here is a comfy aesthetic piece of north korean propoganda, you seem a little high strung and upset, hopefuly it sooths you.
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as far as I know there's only one 8leftypol, doesn't matter, homosexuals, ngigers, kikes are part and parcel of communists, if you're none of those you've been mindfucke dby kikes.
chink

Why should someone be grateful to waste their entire life working to make someone else richer?

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Clearly you and others made poor choices in life. With all the opportunities to choose a means of survival--providing basic needs like food and shelter wife and kids and have a nest egg--you pissed your lives away. And then you suddenly figured out that you need an income so you go to "work" to survive. Whereas you could have taken all the opportunities available to you to select a career you would actually enjoy doing while making the money needed to be happy.
People who complain about the work they do, and think it's a drudgery, did not choose well. You should have paved your way, acquiring the skills you would need, to land a position you actually enjoy doing. IF you chose well and put in the effort, your job would not be the shit-job you complain about. I put in that effort and now I do not dredd going to work at all. I enjoy it and they pay me to do it. I am an engineer doing what I love doing. I 'get' to go to work and then pay me loads of monies.
>you done fucked up
>you blame "the system" instead of yourself because you were brainwashed into thinking it's everybody else's fault and not yours.
>you then advocate socialism & communism because you done fucked up and you heard of a system where other hard working people will pay for your own survival
Bitches.

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> "How in the hell could a man enjoy..."

Nobody fucking enjoys it. It's something shitty that you have to do in order to lead a half decent life and pay for a patch of soil where nobody else can fuck with your shit. The alternative is welfare dependency for your entire life (degrading) or start your own business (fuck that too much drama) or just starving to death.

what is the alternative?

Here's the ultimate redpill.

Tesla invented free energy, the elites use it on their black projects all the time (overwhelming proof of this) and laugh at the sheeple who still pay their bills and turn up at their jobs to keep the system going meanwhile they know it's all just a meme.

They covered it all up to keep the populus from discovering the truth and to keep them as slaves.

The entire game is rigged.

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There is another option

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>only a jew and their book that decries labor
Hahaha, fucking normie cucks are enslaved to the Jewish capitalists - working for their pittance, while the boss makes all the money sitting at a desk shuffling papers off their labor.

>Show me a system... any system... in which a person can simply do nothing but what gives him pleasure and expect to survive.
Many of the tenured academics I've encountered are pretty close to that. Little to nothing in publications at a low tier school, sabbatical breaks, loads of time off and bennies, and teaching is often incompetent and an afterthought. Tenure is a magical thing, hence my interests in theoretical computer science.

Socializam. Check thread about Venezuela. You get a minimal wage, work, no work, education, no education. Perfect equality, you are doing something not because you are getting paid, but because it is your life call. It would be laughable, but its actually tragic.

>People who complain about the work they do, and think it's a drudgery, did not choose well. You should have paved your way, acquiring the skills you would need, to land a position you actually enjoy doing. IF you chose well and put in the effort, your job would not be the shit-job you complain about. I put in that effort and now I do not dredd going to work at all. I enjoy it and they pay me to do it. I am an engineer doing what I love doing. I 'get' to go to work and then pay me loads of monies.

This is somewhat disingenuous. Not everyone can find a job that they enjoy. There are some jobs which are indisputably shitty, and the only reason why people do them is because they can't find something better. It's fine for you because you clearly have an academic inclination, but I suspect you have never had to work an unpleasant job, and you don't realise that many people in these jobs don't have the capacity or luxury to study engineering like you did (or any other way of improving their lives). It's not that simple.

This is true and Bukowski knew this too. He wanted to make a living as a writer and eventually he did, although he was even more reveered in death.

If you can make a living doing something you like or love, this is best, but being human is suffering. Thankfully suffering is becoming less (when you look over time).

Brave New World is a solution. Genetically engineered to actually like cleaning sewage. You are doing what goverment (or our brave new society) told you to do, and you are doing it with a smile and pride. Something Nazi Germany was aspiring to achieve.

>somewhat
Its flat out telling people to eat cake.
People who make this kind of argument should non figuratively get guillotined. The only way they can find to justify their own prosperity with out guilt is selling themselves the lie that everyone gets what they deserve, and therefore the unfortunate must deserve it.

It is dangerous because they will try to spread this ideology. A true megaporky knows hes an asshole, he will not wonder why when he is lined up to be shot, but these people will insist they are virtuous because they are rich right up to the wall.

How'd you survive for 10 years and what do you do now?

This only applies to "office"-type work.
It is my view that any work besides manual is deeply unhealthy for you.
A manual worker only needs to worry about going to work, working for a few hours, and then coming home. It is what I did when I was in a warehouse.
Dull, repetitive motions allow you to think of other things. While I was carrying boxes around.
But mental work, like programming or development... not only does it force you upon a chair for eight hours, but you also need to juggle deadlines, emails, assignments, people, HR, clients, and your work. It is hell on earth. I would sooner die than work for 40 years in that environment.

Don’t you dare look down on the working people out there you antisocial faggots

I'm a member of the educated class as well and certainly pity those with no other prospects than doing such meaningless and hateful tasks to simply exist. It's as much a thought experiment as imagining what it was like as a nigger picking cotton with Simon LeGree's whip at his back and outside my experience.

Beware these proles however, as the Soviet revolution showed when they are angry.

You dont need to genetically engineer people to enjoy these sorts of tasks, you just ensure they are not being exploited.
For example, in north korea this woman is a street cleaner, and also a member of their government. Imagine that, an actual dictatorship of the proletariat.
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So they can raise your healthcare premiums? That’s basically all they did when they had a super majority.

Do you have alternatives ?

Most working class jobs now are worse than being unemployed and on benefits.
They treat you like shit because they know you have no option.
Every industrial job is actively changed to make it so that migrants can replace you and work for 1/2 the pay.
Trucking will die at some point.

If you don't have some sort of skilled white collar job or a trade you're fucked and will have similar life outcomes to an African.

Working in of itself is not bad but working for Schlomo, making him money, then him laying you off because you lost him .01 shekels is not what I would call good work.

the post of a person who has never been backstabbed at work

I leeched off those I lived with and got a small bit of NEETbux. I work doing retail now. I literally just shut down at work and go on "autopilot".

Beats a subsistence living as a hunter gatherer.

>Beware these proles however, as the Soviet revolution showed when they are angry.

Absolutely, I agree. I'm deeply grateful for the hard labour that is performed by the working classes to keep society running. I can't stand ivory-tower elitism or the kind of jerks who thinks that they are superior to a builder/welder/concreter just because they went to university.

Society can survive just fine without lawyers. Not so without bricklayers.

>They treat you like shit because they know you have no option.
>Every industrial job is actively changed to make it so that migrants can replace you and work for 1/2 the pay.

This shit makes me absolutely sick. International competition is exactly why so many working class jobs have either gone to shit or ceased to exist in Western countries. It's fucking treason.

Agreed. The inability to find meaning and purpose in a productive and prosperous society is the real curse.

I don't know what to tell you honestly.
I tried the whole don't go to uni, don't go into debt thing with industrial jobs and what I found was that our industrial sector is placed intentionally close to the airport so that 1. they can ship out and receive packages quickly, but 2. to be able to employ immigrants for $13/h for 12 hour shifts.

If you work there five years you get a raise to maybe $17/h.
It's work for immigrants not Americans.
This is better than most customer service jobs too.

I see your point on a person's lacking capacity on picking a job they want. but putting that aside, what else would you say to a person who doesn't lack capacity but lacks will and dicipline? which imo is the average person.

I'm not saying college is the only way to go but people who continually work at the same dead end job for 15 an hour or less but constantly complain of the "man" or (((them))) for that matter, are almost no better than the NEET

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My main point is that people don't put in the effort to be able to do what they want to do for a career. If they had, they wouldn't bitch as much as they do.
There are opportunities out there, even for the poor. But they fail to make the proper choices and sacrifices. I know. I was dirt poor growing up.

I work in an office doing data analysis.
I love it, I workout on my weekends, I read various news articles on my commutes since my brain is constantly on at work I enjoy learning other things as well.
>juggle deadlines,
oh no I have to prioritise things like life outside of work
>emails,
Non issue
>assignments,
What I'm paid to do
>people,
Boss is great, I speak to the coworkers I need to and choose to
>HR,
Non-issue
>clients,
Don't have them
>and your work.
I get paid for it and it's more than bearable.

The problem neet faggots have is they never go further than being a entrylevel slave

Yes.

We should all get paid by the government to post on here.

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I hope to apply for respected supreme leader's meme squad

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How awfully commie of you.

I have been backstabber plenty of times. The common trait these shit-head backstabber have is that they were ALL liberal lefties.
>keep that in mind
Every single time I have had a boss or co-worker who is a leftist or liberal, I need to be very cautious around them. They enviriably will try to backstabber you. It's in the liberal's nature. They are usually power hungry and don't mind (and actually think they must) stepping on others to get ahead.
All the people who are actually in power positions are very nice, kind, and mindful people. They just get the respect b their nature and not by backstabbing little power hungry bitches.
>ask yourself who you consider the worst bosses or co-workers.
>make a list
>write their political positions next to their names
>you will see the corrilation
Then do the same for the good bosses and co-workers. The ones who wouldn't backstabbing you.

Is best Korea's twitter really them or is it a meme?

>Enjoy bad wages and bad hours working till you drop dead to support the NWO or you're a commie

yeah, but he worked for the post office and spent all his spare time in a bar, its not as if he was prevented from doing some great project by having to work or that his employer was making excess profits off his labor.

but it would be good to make profit sharing a requirement to being a corporation, so that workers would feel like they got to share in the capitalist system

>Not reading Aristotle
We had this figured out 2000 years ago, all we've done is replace laborers for NPC's

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>but I suspect you have never had to work an unpleasant job
I have had to do many-many bad jobs on my way up the ladder. By bad I mean really hard manual labor. I worked hard so most of my bosses were cool with me. (I had a roofing job and I got paid a few more dollars an hour because "I was the only white guy who could keep up with the Mexicans" then they added that i did a better job than them (I think they were covering their ass with that last comment)
Yet the dishwasher jobs I've had, the bosses were dicks. And yes, 100% liberals. Libs have a craving for power and love being assholes to the 'underclass'. Yet, they were life's losers: middle aged restaurant managers who hated their jobs and took it out on their employees. Typical leftist thinking.

>Only the rich should vote
What's your favorite thing about sucking circumcised cock?

I could spend all day growing food and practising piano.
Instead the first part of my life was taken by enforced school and the next part by enforced work.
I'm not lazy just disappointed that the best we can come up with is capitalism or communism.
Where is the new thought for a new century?

It's not for nothing that Aristotle was also know as "The Philosopher" - as in THE fucking philosopher. NPC's are so busy slaving for the next iPhone or whatever that they have not a shread of humanity in them to be citizens and are, indeed, mindless drones generating shekels for global capital.

>Is best Korea's twitter really them or is it a meme?
I dont know, i go to this site for official north korena news
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The ancient Greeks did not practice circumcision, Shlomo. Nice distraction from the whole fucking point, however. "Work for your shekels, poor wagie NPC, and yes you too can vote for a pre-decided leader".

Get a job.

This is such bogus bullshit. How does a NEET own a house, car, wife?

NEETS MUST GO INTO DEBT LIKE THE REST OF US!

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You're not supposed to enjoy life, you utter fucking faggot. Making things better takes work. You fucking cunt.

Your a piece of shit.

Any sources? I know the feds raided his lab after he died.

This is how it's always have been

Try Plato you enormous faggot, Aristotle was Plato’s retarded student, and Plato didn’t have shit on Socrates.

30 year old NEET reporting in AMA

Haha, the Nicomachean Ethics gets tons of use in ethics today.

>100 years
>always
No, it's been far worse and sometimes better. Work in Victorian mills and railroads was a bloodbath, feudal peasantry sucked, and so on. However, hunter gatherers and shit had lots of free time compared to today's wagie - but no medicine, or other amenities.

>Tesla invented free energy
Spoken like a true retard. Did Tesla break the laws of physics? Did he find a loophole in the laws of physics?
You wouldn't know because you don't have the brainpower to know. All you are capable of is parroting when other lefty retards tell you. They told you the "greatest scientist ever to exist did X" and you believe it... then parrot it to support your theory that capitalism is bad and all people hate their jobs, so heed the siren's call to socialism. (Communism by another name).
I hate people like you who try to convince people of a subject but have no fucking clue what you are saying. You just take what (((they))) are shoveling into your head then spew it out with zero original or independent thought.
Fag

He invented a system where you effectively had huge energy for a tiny cost, resonence is everything. Same way you can vibrate a huge bridge weighing thousands of tons with only a small initial input, as long as the frequency is right.

He ended up nearly destroying his own apartment building with his earthquake machine like this. All you need to do is scale this up and fine tune it.

The way I understand it is similar to the real energy potential of everything being huge, like if a small amount of matter got converted to energy then you'd see a huge explosion from a grain of sand and such.

More accurate version:
>finish work and have 16 hours left in the day
>consume some onions based food
>jerk off then play video games or watch the electric jew for 12 hours
>wonder why you're tired the next day
>i'm smart but lazy xD

Nah you're just a weak willed brainlet.

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Here's the redpill:

I personally know of several young adults 19-23 years old who don't work and who earn hundreds of thousands a year from money their parents gave them. The interest and return on investment money they earn doesn't just magically appear out of nowhere - it HAS to come from somewhere - most actual wealth in the world comes from a combination of:

-The products of human labour
-The products of social organisation\complexity combined with the imposition of social 'stability' which allows these people to work and accumulate and invest capital
-An accumulation of knowledge, mostly scientific and technical knowledge
-The energy produced by petroleum
-Animal labour\suffering (in that humans harness the biology of animals to produce protein for consumption, placing the burden of work and the pain of existence on sentient beings who cannot resist or revolt)

So every person earning money from interest\RoI simply has a stake in this global system of extraction of labour\work\suffering\organisation\stability - and yet they have to do nothing themselves. There is literally no reason in the world why one person born in society should be able to contribute NOTHING and yet live off the labour, time, and suffering of what is ultimately millions of people\animals.

Also, governments already create\transfer BILLIONS of dollars worth of wealth every single year, and millions of jobs and advancement opportunities and transferred from men to women as a result of law\social pressure every year - so there is NO excuse for governments not having a UBI. There would actually be LESS state interference in your life and the economy with a UBI.

>resonence is everything
Derive the equation for the resonance of a LC circuit from the reactance equations without using internet sources or admit you don't know what you're talking about. This requires only junior high math. You should be able to do this.

Derive the equation for the resonant frequency of a LC circuit*

Just hurry up with Universal Basic Income already so I can shitpost, play vidja and never have to interact with the fucking public ever again. MAKE IT HAPPEN ALREADY. Working is gay as fuck.

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Generational wealth is the modern equivalent of the old landed gentry and nobility. For instance, the DuPont family hasn't had to work since making their money in the War of 1812 and shit, which lead to nuts like the schizo murderer John DuPont - he slept with the world's most valuable stamp under his pillow, and murdered a wrestler at a ring on his sprawling estate.

That's old money tho - those fuckers at least are ashamed of ostentation and drive an old Volvo into town. New money buys their kid a 3 million dollar 16the birthday party.

I can see how the angry wagie could be led to Bolshevism. I have no stake on either side and could care less, just observing things as an outsider.

Captial Investment is not "nothing" labour theory of value was debunked the moment it was proposed, kys.

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