Should there really not be any restrictions on gun ownership?

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>free
You mean in price? Is it airsoft or what?
Also heard that belt fed machine guns are prohibited, but what if they're semi auto

There is literally nothing wrong with owning the rifle in that photo. I will probably go get one just for fun

In the US, no, because the healthcare coverage and culture is horribly underdeveloped with mental illness too easily turned into a scapegoat that can be used to deny people their 2A because of the intentionally loose legal wording. Democrats and RINOs like to make gun control laws intentionally vague or incorrect to maximize applicability in seemingly unrelated situations (with regards to the way the laws are marketed to the voters, sometimes deceptively).

Although, with the Supreme Court safely stacked conservative for the future, voting for Democrats for universal healthcare coverage to get through is a tactic that doesn't have as many bad side effects anymore. Any overreaching legislation will be shot down by the Court.

As for Europe, aren't Islamists already able to easily obtain illegal AKS and grenades?

Free as in no license or government interference.

If you are an Islamist ISIS fighter without an EU passport, you shouldn’t be able to buy it, hence I think showing an ID is a good measure.

>As for Europe, aren't Islamists already able to easily obtain illegal AKS and grenades?

Yes, but legally they are not. Imagine a Europe where 1 million Islamists could legally buy firearms. Instead of a few hundred AKs in their hands, try a few million.

That's a CO2 gun

Only whites should own firearms in europe. I know you krauts get confused on who can or can't be european and you think shitskins are human(lol!) But being european is a genetic membership not a hobby/desire.
It should be mandatory by law that every non-leftist european male receive combat training and firearms/ammunition.

Or, you know, you could make it an offense punishable by death for a non-white to own weapons in Europe.

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>these citizens should not have committed violent crimes or be mentally retarded / crazy

"Only a RETARDED person would say that on social media!"
"You'd have to be CRAZY to vote for that candidate!"

Following your line of reasoning it's very easy for law abiding citizens to lose their rights due to thought crimes.

.338 Lapua Magnum is the largest calibre long range hunters typically use.

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>It’s free for anyone aged 18 and above without any checks or licenses in Austria. But ownership is limited to Austrian and EU citizens, so if you go into a gun shop and buy it with 1000 rounds of ammo, the gun shop owner will ask you for your ID and register your ID in the online gun registry. This way Islamist illegals don’t get their hands on this rifle. Although criminals and mentally crazy people with a passport from the EU can buy it.

Great!
Your gun sale system works perfectly for law abiding citizens...how does it prevent terrorists from purchasing guns illegally again?

youtu.be/eQol3XYwVUY

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>Gun rights should be limited to citizenship and yes, these citizens should not have committed violent crimes or be mentally retarded / crazy.

That's already the case in every country, so what are you blabling about you retard?

You seem to misunderstand US gun laws.
The lack background-check of is only the case for private to private sales.
And selling to an illegal is illegal ...
consumer.findlaw.com/consumer-transactions/private-gun-sale-laws-by-state.html

The US law is pretty similar to buying a shotgun (or the rifle in OP pic) in Austria.

And illegal fully automatic weapons are cheaper in Europe than in the US ... a vault of 750'000 AKs went missing in the 90s making the real tings cheaper and more common in Europe than a realistic airsoft toy copy.

profilm.de/insel/archiv/waffanl.htm

havocscope.com/black-market-prices/ak-47/

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>Haenel

...was sonst?!

>Islamist illegals shouldn’t be able to buy guns legally.
if they are not citizens no guns

>Great!
>Your gun sale system works perfectly for law abiding citizens...how does it prevent terrorists from purchasing guns illegally again?

Maybe OP just reads too much German newspaper...
(which tends to ignore the existence of a black market when it comes to firearms)

>profilm.de/insel/archiv/waffanl.htm

Is a pretty good indication of how much stuff is available to criminals in Europe, the website is counting the tools used for crime in Frankfurt.
3rd in the list after knifes and illegal pistols (usually never legally privately owned) are machine-pistols and true assault rifles, which can not be bought legally and tend to come from former (eastern block) government stockpiles.

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I personally think anyone should be allowed to buy tomahawk missiles. It would cost them a million dollars to do so but if they chose, the should be able to.

>That's already the case in every country, so what are you blabling about you retard?

Not in Austria for Cat C

We just had someone get shot because someone I their family thought their political views made them unstable.
There's been cases of people being disarmed by police, who had entirely the wrong person. Do they just magically get their guns back? No, they have to go through years of court hearings, spend thousands of dollars on a lawyer, and they may still not get their guns back.
You can go ahead and trust your government, mine has shown they can't be trusted in this capacity.

So what's your point? That Austrian laws aren't hard enough? You make a fucking thread everyday bragging about how you can buy a SNIPUH RIFLE in Austria without a license, and now you are showing your real intent, shilling for gun control, is that right?

Well you are fucking retarded, because terrorists already have access to sniper rifles on the black market : namely, the M76 and M91 rifle. Not a single one is even smuggled into western countries, only assault rifles with a folding stock, grenades and occasionally a rocket launcher. Do you understand why? Because terrorism isn't about killing one person from a great distance, it's about killing as many random people as possible at close range. Sniper rifles and machine guns are heavy, large, cannot be concealed on on person and are not fit for close range combat.

Have you considered killing yourself?

I have never heard of a case in Austria where a person was put into an insane asylum for his political views. The test for handguns and semi-autos is broadly the same, which is why the rejection rate is so low. Only suicidal and mentally insane people are rejected - the same type of people who should be involuntarily locked up in asylums for the good of society.

My point is that Austria’s laws for Cat C weapons aren’t hard enough, yes. Alternatively, someone could give me a reason why the EU wide standards for Cat B are too hard.

It can’t be both. Either we apply a mental test to all firearm owners, or no such test at all

No "mental test" in France to get a category C gun in France, only a check to see if you aren't on the list of persons banned from owning firearms.
No mental check either to get a category B, only a check on a list of persons who have been unvoluntarily commited to a mental institution. And even for them, a letter from a doctor saying they are sane to own guns again is enough.

And on top of having a shitload of illegal guns in France, our gun control still didn't stop a sandnigger to legally get a semi-auto AK to shoot people at random on the streets in the name of ISIS.
So basically, your point is that all guns need to be banned, as that would be the only way to prevent terrorists from getting them legally. Of course, it would change nothing to the black market, but white people would be disarmed so you would be happy. Is that right?

>Islamist illegals

Their existence in your country is illegal. It should be illegal to sell them a bratwurst, never mind a gun.

There would be no islamist illegals present in the first place if you krauts had had guns

>our gun control still didn't stop a sandnigger to legally get a semi-auto AK to shoot people at random on the streets in the name of ISIS.

Weren’t the Battavaln guys coming into France with AKs and ammo obtained in Eastern Europe? It’s more of a border problem then, no? Plus a concealed carry problem with too few French citizens carrying concealed handguns to shoot attackers during attacks.

Here is even a map of the illegal weapon import.

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Responsible citizens will never use weapons for their intended purpose (here) killing those in power.

All these antigun shills will be sad gimps in the upcoming madmax future.

Deport third worlders and have a homogenous cohesive society, then you don’t have to worry about giving third worlders rights that could potentially harm you.
Either way, the right to a firearm is a check on the government, and governments really really don’t like that.

>It’s more of a border problem then, no?
pretty much the case, but once the borders are secure you'll also have to get the illegal weapons in circulation inside of the EU.

It's also why legal gun owners are pissed about the EU weapons directive. While decent deactivation standards make sense,
politicians completely ignored the existence of arms trafficking and the black market and quickly moved on to demanding weapons that look scary to be banned.
If it wasn't for sudden organized resistance from private gun owners the EU might have even kept the original plan of UK-style firearms legislation in all of Europe...

>Plus a concealed carry problem with too few French citizens carrying concealed handguns to shoot attackers during attacks.

The czechs seem to have the most useful European-style approach on firearms ownership:
youtube.com/watch?v=pdOHOKgRHgE

A Firearms proficiency test, but unlike many other EU countries with the option of actually carrying a firearm.
... Suppressors being banned in CZ doesn't make sense though.
When picking from different european country firearm legislations the Czechs as basis with a Norwegian (unregulated) approach on suppressors would be something most could probably agree on.

Sovereign citizens should be able to own nukes.

assault action rifle*

No one should be allowed to own nukes, but if the government reserves the right to own nukes, then they can't deny that right to citizens... otherwise they are not a legitimate government of the US.

Is there one modded so the stock is a soft material?

I like how anti gunners say that since uk and Australia banned gun use there was no gun crime but funny thing is the gun crime raised up just cause u are going to bans guns doesn’t mean u will stop it there is something called the black market where u can buy ur self a ar 15 this is why anti gunners and liberals are fucking retarted they can’t think ahead

I’m America we have no chat with doctor before buying gun, is a metal heath doctor a professional in firearms? If you were really homicidal would they be able to tell no.

What makes you think illegals should walk into the gun shop, what makes you think they wouldn’t smuggle guns from the east!

This your right bye god not to own a gun but to be able to utilize the modern tools to safeguard your live and if your families. It’s not up to the state or political parties. How you defend yourself.

In America you just go and bye 99.9 of applicants are law abiding citizens. You cannot lie on the application you will go to jail. You cannot bye for someone else, the people selling can tell. If you are new it will take 3,4 days and the company will call you to come pick it up. If your like me and they know your name it take 15 20 minutes Daly I smoke a cigarette come in sign, pay and walk out with a brand new Sig Sauer.

I’ve never shot someone I’m not homicidal, I have ones guns for over 10 years now.

So
You even know, this gun cost over 8,000 dollars US. So this weapon is not necessarily obtainable, and no this weapon is not more deadly that any other.

took me 10 minutes to draw this you better appreciate it.

>joke
>germany

oh no

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stop posting

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>tfw living in norway and the government will confiscate my rifle in 3 years because of the greater good
while the rest of europe seemed to get more relaxed gun laws, norway went in the complete opposite direction and will start confiscate private property without compensation

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Turning over a gun to government confiscation is just insane. Its so easy to hide the gun from them. Tell them it was stolen or something

Does it also affect the legality of using it for hunting if it's owned based on a sporting license?

>while the rest of europe seemed to get more relaxed gun laws,
Some countries might relax slightly, but Ireland recently banned center-fire semi auto rifles and pistols without any reason other than fear-mongering.
The French used the EU directive fore some strange magazine limitations
and what will happen in Switzerland and Germany is still unclear, the best both can hope for is that nothing changes ...

They're pushing pretty hard for tighter control in Swedistan too, because shitskins armed with illegal guns are shooting each other.

Remember when Haenel made StG-44s? Now they are yet another AR-15 manufacturer... I get that AR-15 is one of the best assault rifle designs, but damn.

What pisses me off is that they don't seem to care one bit of doing their job at being the distributor for brügger&thomet over here...
it's not even possible to get a APC300 that meets the stupid 60cm requirement although fitting stocks that would meet it are available.

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I won't risk my other guns for the Mini-14. So I'll give it up like a good goy. But if you really like the Mini-14 now its the time to get one here in Norway. People are trying to sell almost brand new ones for 75% discounts with loads of extra stuff, custom stocks and magazines. But doesn't seem like anyone are buying. Its pretty much impossible to get rid of the gun unless you give it away for free.
>Does it also affect the legality of using it for hunting if it's owned based on a sporting license?
You are not allowed to use sporting rifles for hunting.
I could join a sport shooting club and keep it. But if you're a sport shooter you'll be able to buy much better semi autos.
Yeah, thanks to some guy taking it a little to far almost 10 years ago with an Mini-14 thousands of legally owned firearms will now be confiscated without compensation.
Until now you were allowed to keep your gun if you've bought it before it became "illegal", so this whole gungrabbing thing is completely new over here.

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Also: why is this damn thing so fucking expensive?!? Is it some sort of kraut space magic?

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