The US is leaving Afghanistan after 20 years with the Taliban more powerful than before

The Great Satan suffers a defeat once again. Glory to the Taliban for their gallant victory.

Ok retard faggot.

>you don't see israel complain about the funding they don't deserve being too small
maybe because they get the most funding of any nation on the planet pumped right to them from the US

>destroy a country's economy costing them $120 billion
>pay back 15% of total amount
>rub your 15% in the face of the country with the destroyed economy
>destroyed country responds that it's nothing compared to what was lost
>REEEEE HOW DARE YOU CALL OUR AID MINISCULE

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They got 30bn for 10 years recently. Sounds similar to this Pakistan deal of 20bn. I’d also assume Israel spent it better than Pakistan would have.

pic related is why trump hates pakistan

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>how does this make you feel?
That the Anti-Americana Deep State has finally learned how to occupy the Rockies and Appalachian Mountains.

fuck the middle east.

let them kill each other.

>Israel
Israel commands the US army and tells its dipshit faggot soldiers where and when to die. They never participate in any of the US's foreign adventures as anything other than material contractors reaping huge sums of money. They run the show in the US, their "aid" is in no danger of ever being cut off without violent revolution. The kikes are the ones assblasted that Pakistan decided being America's ally was a bad investment with minimal returns and are impotently lashing out.
>South Korea
South Korea does in fact say things like this, it's just hidden from Americans through a carefully curated media. SK is the one who has been making peace with NK a priority, and forced the US to jump into that fray to save face. It accelerated right around the time that the US started talking about hitting South Korea with tariffs. Nobody is friends with the US because they like kike pastrami sandwiches or Woody Allen movies. They do it for economic opportunity at the US's expense. When that goes away, there is very little reason for these other countries to assume the same geopolitical enemies and goals as the US and to take on the risks and consequences associated with them.

us shouldn't be giving anyone funding period aside from maybe South Korea and Japan since they're not ass backward chucklefucks who beg for money then cry foul whenever the US asks them to maybe do something.

It's weird that the best allies the US has are the country it nuked and the other it helped break apart.

>I’d also assume Israel spent it better than Pakistan would have.
I hope they spent it on all those goddesses in the IDF, they deserve the easiest and most carefree lives possible

Lol how did the US destroy their economy? Fucking lock your borders down and fight the enemy that is within your own borders or just don’t if you’re worried about money. When you make the decision to go to war then you’re spending money and the Pakistani gov did shield the Taliban all the time cuz the Pakistani gov is big and corrupt as shit. That corrupt shit hope should be grateful for any amount of aid given. It’s is not the US problem that they declared war on the Taliban. Tell the US to fuck off then if you don’t want death and lost moeny. Do you see what I’m getting at? They started that war and took the moeny all while being corrupt as shit. I’m an isolationist and think the US shouldnt be giving any money but especially not to corrupt shit holes like Pakistan who are no openly ungrateful for it.

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>afghanistan
>middle east

k

>Fucking lock your borders down

Do you know how the terrain between Afghanistan and Pakistan is? It's one of the largest mountain ranges on Earth. Yeah let's lock a fucking mountain range down. The US tried to create a solid border between the two countries but failed for the same reason Pakistan failed in creating a physical barrier.

ZIONIST. OPERATED. GOVERNMENT.

Wake the fuck up. It's so goddamn demoralizing seeing all these young westerners angrily defending Jews, Zionists, interventionists, globalists, war profiteers, military industrial complex, the fucking CIA...

Most people cannot even comprehend the level of evil that is Zionism. They control MILLIONS OF PEOPLE against their own interests, using you to fight for world-Zionism.

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'leaving', like we left iraq....

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>>the US is leaving Afghanistan after 20 years
good
>like we should have glassed it and left two fucking decades ago
this tbqh

No board has banned me as much, for as bullshit of reasons, as Jow Forums, and it is ONLY when I post objective truthful facts about Jews and Zionism, and their effect on America's dying civilization.

The entire religion of Judaism is about manipulating and controlling non-Jews, with no holds barred, literally believing they are God in the flesh (which is what the Star of David represents, the God and Man triangles unified as one).

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>taliban want america out
>america finally leaving
>this is an issue
Okay...
>destabilize area for 20 years after the russians invaded
>create puppet states and fake democracy
>ISIS capitulates and goes full genocide
>finally rid of isis, now taliban locals can restart their governments
I'm not a supporter or anything but for fucks sake you guys forget that military leaders with (sometimes) highschool educations are the ones making these decisions.

close enough

>that image
Do you have any source or anything or is this another one of those 'i saw it on facebook so it's true' quality Jow Forums posts.
Even your statements are outlandish and baseless.
This is a weapons board.

People bitch about the Saudis with Khashoggi affair but the Pakistanis make DeGaulle look like a loyal diehard ally who will do anything for you. Fuckers stretch the very definition of ally. I understand the rock and a hard place situation they find themselves in but they have undeniably been a major sponsor of the Afghan Taliban. There's a reason the regions neighboring Iran and the Central Asians have always been milder than the areas neighboring the Durrand Line. They're experiencing the repercussions of this with the incessant growth of the Pakistani Taliban and the Talibanization of various gangs and militant groups beyond the Pashtuns and into the Punjab.

I don't know what the solution, practical one that is viable (Wipe out the Afghans is a lovely prospect but not something that'll happen). Best I can think of is just support the natural Northern Alliance types more hands off because the Taliban will never be able to fully control the country and make sure it's clear to the Talibananas if they support terrorists that strike anywhere in the West we'll smash them into pieces again and just not garrison it.

I'm sure such a policy is a disaster, nature abhors a vacuum and all, but I'd assume the American people would be more accepting of periodic aerial smack-downs and not nation-building.

The area was destabilized for 10 years after the Russians invaded because the US was completely hands off. US had almost no role in the area, it was the proxy war of Iranians supporting Tajiks and Hazari and the Pakistanis and Saudis supporting the Pashtuns. Iran and Afghanistan (Taliban) almost came to blows. Before 9-11 the US was even looking into economic deals with the Taliban.

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Don't you just want to give her everything you have after she forcibly circumcises you? Mesmerizing

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Well he is kinda wrong in that Pakistani intelligence was helping the taliban fight the Americans.
>The entire story around 9-11 is bullshit on every level and they went along with it anyway.
Oh right, you're a lunatic.

Look at her face of disgust for him carrying a firearm in a hostile country known for sneak attacks and backstabbing.
Let's just send her personally to collect all the firearms in afghan and yemen. And fuck it, iran too.

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>incessant growth of the Pakistani Taliban

You do realize Pakistani Taliban are pretty much non-existent nowadays, right?

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The Taliban used to rule the country and now they dont.

In what way are they more powerful than before?

Pakistan shares a border, disputed territory, religious conflict, and a recent history of serious and repeated war with much larger India -- an India whose geopolitical machinations, religious leanings, materialism, and anti-White hatred make them a natural ally of the judeo-Bolshevik American government. If Pakistan isn't knee deep in third party terrorism, then their entire military/intelligence complex should be fired.

>when you spend 5 trillion dollars and achieve worse than literally nothing

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is that a je*Ess?

>Yeah let's lock a fucking mountain range down
Actually that's not hard to do. Ok it's hard to stop faggots walking across, but it's not hard to stop large scale shipments of munitions, even donkey trains need a place to gather, rest up and organise. If the pakistanis had wanted to, they could have closed the border off, there's only a few passes a vehicle can get through after all.

>that rise in other forms of fatalities but drop in 'terrorist incidents'
Something about this graph screams 'haha we're lying'. I can't put my finger on it.

Best way to win Afghanistan is to allow Americans to homestead the land and begin a modern day Oregon trail across the country. FOBs would be supply outposts for American settlers arming those brave enough with military arms and supplies

>implying that money wasn't mostly to line pockets and dwindle population
Well spent.

satp.org/satporgtp/countries/pakistan/database/casualties.htm

How about this then? It's from an Indian source. Is this fake too?

Dissappointed. The Neococks just used Afghanistan as an excuse to pull a lot of other bullshit internally and increase our presence in the Middle East. There was no plan. None. And it was like that intentionally. We put less effort into long term planning than Vietnam, and allied ourselves with even worse and more despicable trash.

But that Pakistani fuck? Fuck him, we would have left when Bush was president if they had turned Bin Laden over as soon as they found him, instead, he was just down the road from their most prestigious military academy. And Pakistan is strongly invested in keeping Afghanistan a worthless hell hole constantly fighting itself, they have zero interest in a peaceful Afghanistan.

>too?
I think you might have me confused for another user. It's just weird that stats would jump that much.
Any idea why they stepped up that hard from 2007 to 2013?

You do realise fatalities go down when people just stop fighting? That chart proves the taliban is nearly completely in control of Pakistan's eastern areas. It's not complicated, look, why do murders always increase when police take a major player out of the drug game? Because people are suddenly fighting over his suddenly vacant place. It's the way of all gangs, there's a spike of violence as they take over, and then the murders settle down once they are in control, because nobody's fighting them anymore.

>That chart proves the taliban is nearly completely in control of Pakistan's eastern areas

You're literally objectively braindead and have no idea of what's going on in the world.

The numbers went down because of this military operation that eradicated the terrorists from Pakistan: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Zarb-e-Azb

They started a number of military operations afaik, that would be my answer.

>why did the numbers go up
>They started a number of military operations afaik, that would be my answer.
HMMMM!
>You do realize Pakistani Taliban are pretty much non-existent nowadays, right?
>despite this graph that contradicted me provided by me
Nice.

>You're literally objectively braindead and have no idea of what's going on in the world.
Says the guy who just LITERALLY proved my point. Good job faggot, you really are a moron.

So they started an operation, got rekt and basically ceded the border areas to the Taliban is what you're saying?

>>despite this graph that contradicted me provided by me

Literally how?

>if they had turned Bin Laden over as soon as they found him
Wake up, dipshit. He had been dead for YEARS before whatever stage play they put on.

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Nope, they defeated the Taliban. Pakistan took back all the areas that were under Taliban control.

>Allying with the Northern Alliance
No, they are habitual pedophiles. Allying with literally anyone in the country was a mistake.

Hahaha, nice try paki scum.

? I don't know why you think they didn't? Literally read any book/newspaper and you would know. But you're probably a retard who doesn't know anything about geopolitics so it makes sense.

Yeah, and this has been proven. The best way to destroy gangs, is actually mass arrests of the lower level gang members. Repeatedly. Just haul them in by the thousands.

Who the fuck would want to live there

I agree on 9/11 being theater to fight never ending wars for israel
>oy vey the two countries responsible for a bunch of saudis funded by the KSA and living on the same street as a mossad team, are the shia minority countries that border either side of Iran
what a coincidence

but the ISI fucked america on a monthly basis
trained taliban
supported taliban
gave them cover
remember when the USA called pakistan on its bullshit?
>wow somehow the "tribals" snuck into the middle of pakistan and destroyed your entire 2 billion dollar convoy of supplies en route to US bases

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Nigger you’re retarded. That border is impossible to lock down.

the best koreans know a thing or two about keeping people in

Back to the containment space schizoid.

Lot of weirdo preppers and men who want to have a harem of barely legal waziri pussy.

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Unfortunately the Pakistanis aren’t as brainwashed as the best Koreans and the ANA will do literally anything for $20.

There is no officer in the United States with only a high school education

You are profoundly retarded on so many levels. All I will say is that South Korea being able to broker for peace rn is only a result of our aid and intervention.

>When you're too retarded to realise he's actually paraphrasing the NRA's position
Jesus Christ Jow Forums, fucking get it together.

Money well spent, it seems.

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Not even glassed it
>hurr anyone who is not a christian democrat must die
and then all the leftovers come to your country because they have nowhere left to go. this isn't gayhammer 40k, you can't get all of them period. there are other foreign interventionists who would stop you. nuke you, even.

think, america loses all its freedoms and becomes the america shown in films like elysium. a polluted hellhole where everyone speaks spanish and lives in shanty towns while the rich literally look down on the miss. you say "you made it like the rest of the world! freedom loving whites have nowhere left to go! you're trying to drive us to extinction!". and then you go to someone else's country and demand the first, second, and fourth back as a minimum and they can't understand why you want laws that let those dastardly criminals make their plans, commit their crimes, and hide the evidence and dismiss you as backwards and subhuman, unaware that your system worked perfectly fine when it was just your system and not shared with and meddled with by a bunch of foreigners. the ways of your people, gone, and your people, gone. blended in with the rest of the world.

that's how tyranny loving arabs feel. nobody wins with this shit. they're experience the softcore genocide that Jow Forums fears might happen to them while Jow Forums cheers for it, unaware that it causes a chain reaction so long as there are some left to become refugees.

We should have forcibly purchased the bit of Balochistan with Gwadar, paired with Afghanistan, then with some infrastructural investment, used it to ship in all our stuff and then ignored Pakistan.

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kek imagine if China was supplying the Taliban with manpads

Yeah except their system literally never worked.

The current South Korean president campaigned explicitly on peace with the North with zero regard for the US's opinion on it. This is after the last zionist, dystopian hyper-feminist puppet candidate was drummed out of office and arrested on the backs of mass protests.

>leftovers come to your country
Don't let them in. Its that simple. However.

>there are other foreign interventionists who would stop you. nuke you, even
This. Most likely anyways, is the real issue.

Bin Laden unironically did nothing wrong

It was working pretty well given their low average IQ scores that would have you expect less.

And then we fucked it up.

>don't let them in
That wall's coming any day now, but they're going to walk through the gates with a UN gun against the gatekeeper's head anyways. The only winning move is not to play.

small correction, Iraq is a Shia majority country, but I suppose in terms of power they were a minority under Saddam

Legitimately they’re the lowest tier of tribal warlords. Africans are more organized.

Nothing of value besides the fire fighters were lost in 9/11. democraps lost a large number of voters and the United States lost a nice amount of traitors.

>free land
>free m2s and 240b
>Afghanistan is beautiful

Because Afghanistan is a corrupt shithole, half the government and ANA are probably crypto-Taliban anyway

Good. Foreign interventionism is a mistake.

The Soviets already demonstrated that you can't occupy Afghanistan.

Legitimately their shit was running far smoother that way and it's a shitshow if they attempt our system because it requires a large educated upper class to run it and a decently intelligent majority that's a full standard deviation above the average arab.

Freedom is for people, tyranny is for animals. Can you imagine wolves trying to vote on a pack leader?

Nuke Pakistan

>the NRA's position is to use jew run media to indoctrinate children into not only hating their own constitutional rights, but actively wanting to strip their fellow citizens of their constitutional rights which under any pretense to deprive groups of people of their civil rights would be considered a hate group full of hate speech

arguing with jews is like shooting fish in a barrel nowadays

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I agree democracy can only be considered when the voting population is property owning white men of good moral character. I don’t know why we bother to try to impose it on shit skin savages.

However their system is still trash and is only one notch above total anarchy.

well that explains how sunni KSA saudi agents led to Iraq being put on the chopping block

the jews wanted that knocked off before they go after Iran
>the invasion of Iraq made Iran about 3 times more influential in the region

god I hope syria comes back to bite them in the ass
I think Egypt or Turkey are the only real hopes of actually taking Israel on with a long war where they just feed a continuous stream of jihadis into Israel

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And the near total disorganization you get when the tribal system is removed is better or something? last I checked it just destabilized their countries so badly we lost the ability to even think about getting to that oil. All doing that does is make israel a little safer because then they're even busier fighting each other than they were before.

>What do you think the point is

>most expensive army in the world defeated by 50K illiterate opium farmers with small arms and IEDs
>threepers vindicated
>grabbers eternally BTFO

America is bad at war, but the chief architects and proponents of both wars have benefited financially--so that's okay.

the second we gave women and dark skinned people the right to vote it was game over

they are unable to see through jewish tricks
the shit those people actually believe and how easy they are to manipulate is astounding. not astounding. revolting.
you give them bread and circuses, social media in there as well? its been game over for the west for a century now.
I cant think of one argument Ive ever had with a women where I lost.
you know about facts and the world and shit.

Ive lost plenty of arguments to women about petty shit outside of that

>try to force a government and national identity on a bunch of tribes that hate each other
>why do they keep stabbing us in the back?

what kind of hate speech is this insinuating?
youre the reason the boards are being split up.
youre the reason mommy and daddy are getting divorced.

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I’m just saying that it’s no big tragedy we removed their network of tribal warlords. These fuckers weren’t even on the negro kang level or the Native American tribal federation level. In our absence there’s still going to be shit loads of people killed and a whole host of bad shit going on. I have no idea why it’s such a bad thing when we cause it but nobody gives a fuck that it’s been the norm in that area of the world forever.