You know how liberals are brainwashed by the media and the "man", what if we are just brainwashed by Jow Forums?

>Nobody's forcing you to be here.
And yet, even you want the leaf to be here. In fact, you want everyone in the world to come here.

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I was thinking about it, but there is something else but plain brainwashing, unlike liberals, who are showed with propaganda forcefully in colleges and universities day by day, we are here by our free will, though is indeed true what we are here forever. Even after swallowing black pill I still can't stop coming here, 7 fucking years on Jow Forums
Also if you are right wing, you can't get brainwashed by liberal media again, but here we have this reverse brainwashing constantly, I was myself communist before I started to browse Jow Forums and Jow Forums, tho I started to lean right even before Jow Forums existence. on Jow Forums

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>Then how come once you come here, you can't leave for good?
Dopamine kicks. You can't talk this freely in public. Jow Forums gives you a platform to put in the least amount of effort to talk to someone and then receive rewards in the form of replies from other human beings. Any attention is good attention
>we're all attention deprived social outcasts.

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Propaganda is usually comforting lies dressed up in some manner. Nothing about what I've learned on Jow Forums is comforting. It's confronting but also undeniable truths but that's truth, it's often harsh and disturbing.

Jow Forums has way more lurkers than posters actually, it's always have been that way

>we are here by our free will
No, you're here for the dopamine kick.
>though is indeed true what we are here forever.
You're talking like a fucking addict you cocksucker.
>Even after swallowing black pill I still can't stop coming here,
Then you haven't swallowed the black pill. You're just here to swallow cocks from strangers on the internet.
>Also if you are right wing, you can't get brainwashed by liberal media again
>right wing, you can't get brainwashed
Do you even read what you type?
> I was myself communist before I started to browse Jow Forums and Jow Forums
Oh, you were born a fagget. Nvm.

Liberals live in echo-chambers where dissent is non-existant, whereas we don't
>inb4 Jow Forums is an echo chamber
At least here you're free to disagree. Besides, out in the real world I'm constantly bombarded by liberal viewpoints, it's just that it's bs

>Nothing about what I've learned on Jow Forums is comforting.
Everything you've learnt on Jow Forums is comforting - FOR YOU. AND THAT IS WHY YOU LOVE IT HERE - YOU LOVE THE FACT THERE ARE OTHER FAGGETS LIKE YOU IN THE WORLD EVEN IF WHAT WE DISCUSS IS DISTURBING. YOU FIND COMPANIONSHIP ON Jow Forums. CUNT.

No I'm here because my absolute favorite thing to do is watch idiots pretend they know the intentions of other idiots,and my second favorite is pretending to know what the other idiots here are thinking when they hit send, so quit projecting idiot

If we live in the laws of physics, initial mathematical laws form our universe then you are just complex math, you don't have free will, you are here just as a knock on effot of something

No. I initially came here convinced I was going to prove all these racists wrong.
And then I became one of them.

>Not a single real point
>Butthurt the post
Chill m8, your fight won't matter in the end anyway

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The very fact that questions like this are asked here disprove the brainwashing allegation.

>No I'm here because my absolute favorite thing to do is watch idiots pretend they know the intentions of other idiots,
Faaaaaaaaaaake and gaaaaaaaaay. You're just an outcast like everyone else - OR WORSE, YOU FEEL LIKE AN OUTCAST. You can't talk like this in public, and THAT IS WHY YOU'RE ON Jow Forums.
>so quit projecting idiot
You first.

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>No. I initially came here convinced I was going to prove all these racists wrong.
>And then I became one of them.
Even Aussies are sheep like the rest of humanity.

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>Chill m8, your fight won't matter in the end anyway
Sad but true. Nothing we do here will matter in the end. All lines of communication are controlled. We're simply fighting each other for no real purpose.

>You can't talk like this in public, and THAT IS WHY YOU'RE ON Jow Forums.
Not every country on earth is US, you know? Here you may freely discuss such things with your colleagues and friends, and none will bat an eye

>seething

>we
Gee, I wonder...

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It's only brainwashing if it comes from the most dominant force in society and if it's reinforced by everyone around you.

>We're simply fighting each other for no real purpose.
And we are doing it here of all places, where every real argument can't be smashed by
>SHILL
>SEETHING
>KYS

Can get*

>what if we are just brainwashed by Jow Forums?
Nah nigger, this is the truth truth right here

Brainwashed by FBI statistics showing racial crime? Brainwashed by every interaction I’ve had with a brown person ever? Brainwashed by basic economics?

Difference is we all know half the shit here is fake. Jow Forums gets you into the habit of asking for sauce and being your own fact checker. It's basically a vaccine for fake news.

>Here you may freely discuss such things with your colleagues and friends, and none will bat an eye
>user doesn't realize everyone already things he's crazy.

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You can never leave

Jow Forums is what it'd be like if children had
input in the tv they watch. instead of tv
choosing for us what to see think and
hear.

>And we are doing it here of all places, where every real argument can't be smashed by
>>SHILL
>>SEETHING
>>KYS
What are you talking about? Arguments are regularly derailed by shills on Jow Forums.

What did you just try to prove? You don't know political climate here, but I don't really want to explain either, you just wanna shitpost

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Can only resist truth for so long if you've got a semblance of intelligence.

Brainwashing is good, what matters is the outcome of brainwash in your and your society favor, the favor of environment and eventually the planet. We are humans, what do humans want? Same things as animals, food and shelter and little hobby. So a brainwash that gives you those things the fastest is a good brainwash and outcome of society. Brainwash that deludes and doesn't provides what it promised is a bad brainwash. No, humans don't need anything else than shelter and food, that's the basis, everything else is a delusional evil brainwash, like credits for example.

Doesn't mean any real argument against Trump and his administration are not instantly met with SHILL, those faggots are really obnoxious

Because most of the conclusions were arrived at before Jow Forums existed.

The most evil brainwash of them all is complication. Everything can be made simple, the law, the family, the life, the food. People who complicate simple things are evil. They come in many forms, one form is your typical charlatan that promises aliens or wealth, but doesn't delivers.

can we please get a fappening thread to piss off the nofap faggots?

>What did you just try to prove?
Everyone probably thinks you're crazy, and they just nod their heads because they don't want to be shot up by you.

>Can only resist truth for so long if you've got a semblance of intelligence.
But what is the truth? Political ideologies are not the truth. Racism is not a truth but merely an evolutionary aspect of humans. Stereotyping is not a truth but an evolutionary aspect of humans. We stereotype and are racist because we've lived in small tribes for most of our history. Natural selection has chosen racists.

But with globalism, continued propaganda, racists will be wiped out slowly, but surely, and the ones who remain are those who consider everyone equal/part of their tribe.

>Doesn't mean any real argument against Trump and his administration are not instantly met with SHILL, those faggots are really obnoxious
Any other argument is also briagaded. Not only the threads on trump.

Brainwashing prohibits questioning.

Question everything and make your own determinations. If you don't believe in evolution, and think the world is flat, and we live in a simulation, that is perfectly fine as long as you don't work in a field where policy is produced or science is preformed based off of your personal flavor of lunacy, that goes for religions too.

But you're also here forever

No, you may hear people discussing politics all the time, like everywhere in the world, we are not cucked here, so we can freely say that we hate niggers or/and muslims, hell, we even got Waffen SS legion parade every year.
Actually after all this years I'm trying to abstain myself from politics in real life, so I'm observing all of this from distance usually

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I can litarally smell you my hebrew friend

a truth? huh?

we stereotype to find an average. You have become goofy af.

Does culture matter?

I bet you thought Hilary would win

I still remember my first years on Jow Forums. I didn't post for like 3 years of lurking. Somehow there was a ''spectator'' mindset, never even felt like I wanted to respond to anything, I think. Bizarre.

There are people reading this RIGHT NOW who have never posted on /pole/. Spooky.

>But what is the truth? Political ideologies are not the truth. Racism is not a truth but merely an evolutionary aspect of humans. Stereotyping is not a truth but an evolutionary aspect of humans.
No, but facts are.
>Natural selection has chosen racists.
Correct. It's inherent within all successful species.
>But with globalism, continued propaganda, racists will be wiped out slowly, but surely, and the ones who remain are those who consider everyone equal/part of their tribe.
With globalism there will always be one tribe elevated above the equals.

so this one was proven it was not her right?

>No, you may hear people discussing politics all the time, like everywhere in the world, we are not cucked here
What does it matter? Jow Forums encourages extreme viewpoints of all political ideologies. You may think you're not a cuck, but that doesn't uncuck you in reality. In reality, you're cucked by the extremism on Jow Forums.
>so we can freely say that we hate niggers or/and muslims, hell, we even got Waffen SS legion parade every year.
See my point now?
>Actually after all this years I'm trying to abstain myself from politics in real life, so I'm observing all of this from distance usually
No one is free from the discussion of politics. As the human population increases, it's only natural for everyone to take sides. War is coming. Too many of us for too few resources. Pain and suffering ahead.

>We

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It goes deeper than this. People are being brainwashed by Chinese and Russian intelligence to hate USA and its allies.

>I can litarally smell you my hebrew friend
I can literally smell you Mod senpai. You fuckers seem to come in every thread I shitpost. Why? Am I disseminating too many redpills? Why don't you fuckers go fuck yourselfs like the bisexual sexually fluid faggots that you are?

Start one up...I always love posing as the dude who runs celeb jihad and pissing off the Taylor Swift faggots. I guess you’d have to start it as a “How do we fix waman Jow Forums?” kinda thread...not saying I’ll devote much to it, but I’d definitely partake for a minute. Just remember to keep it political.

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Always a leaf...

Brainwashed by a swarm of anonymous analysis that requires serious discernment to determine truth from lies.

What color is the sky in your universe, fren?

She looks scared
I’ve never felt bad for this roastie until just now
Women need to be protected, and she was used and mistreated

>Does culture matter?
Yes. Cultures evolve as the result of an optimization problem - tribes explore practices over a period of time and the practices that match most with the environment stay. Hence you have different cultures in different regions - each culture is supposed to be a locally optimal solution.

THE MISTAKE WE MAKE IS TO ASSUME THAT ONE CULTURE IS UNIVERSALLY BETTER THAN ANY OTHER CULTURE.
>I bet you thought Hilary would win
No, I knew with the email server fiasco Hillary was going to lose. The DNC lost a trick there. I would have never pushed Hillary for candidacy. It was just too early. The Deep State should have pushed for a moderate republican candidate. They didn't have any because they became too cocky with Obama and thought they had progressed farther than they actually had.

>But what is the truth?
>Facts are
No, only physical laws are truths - BECAUSE THEY'RE TRUE EVERYWHERE. What you call facts are subjective measurements of reality made by human beings. They don't have to hold true everywhere.
>Correct. It's inherent within all successful species.
For now. But it won't be true forever.
>With globalism there will always be one tribe elevated above the equals.
And that won't be us. If you have empathy, you will be used. To be part of the elite tribe, you have to be sociopathic.

If anons wanted dopamine kicks, they wouldn’t be user — they would be on Facebook and Twitter. I’m here because it’s the only place to get unfiltered, raw analysis from people who actually want to know the truth and abhor cognitive biases. Also a great place to challenge your own biases.

I’m also short twitter and I would love to see that platform die in a fire

proofs

you must have the intelligence to weigh facts and look at sources that are posted. You must be able to realize that a lot of shit gets posted here.
Alternately the media is the epitome of brainwashing. We know that as soon as somebody starts watching TV, their brain enters a state of increased suggestibility.
iamawake.co/your-brain-waves-change-when-you-watch-tv/
scientificamerican.com/article/does-tv-rot-your-brain/
Those with child-like mentalities will just accept things that come from the great box as fact and pass it on. That's how old wives tales reproduce. Nobody bothers to actually look up the facts.
Here you have the option to not only receive information and check the facts youself; you can contribute to the information platform. You can post amazing info or shit but ultimately it's you who is responsible for thinking critically about the content here. Be careful though most of the shit that breaks you is backed by facts and proof. It is this that dooms your soul to a life in Jow Forums. You can never leave.

>being brainwashed by yourself and others discussing society in an open uncensored forum

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>THE MISTAKE WE MAKE IS TO ASSUME THAT ONE CULTURE IS UNIVERSALLY BETTER THAN ANY OTHER CULTURE.

yeah i get you brother, if we treated women like Muslims it MIGHT be better but you have to admit us in the west are doing our best to find the best way for everybody, white people.

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Idk man...looks very close to me. I never really looked into the authenticity of this kinda smut...mostly because I don’t care about actors/actresses or (((Hollywood))) in general and I actually really hate them.
>t. Southern Californian Expat

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>proofs
Newfag

"DO THESE NUDES TRIGGER LEFTIES?!?!?!"

Probably...mostly because the phone hacks weren’t given with consent. So basically this is akin to rape or whatever feminazis bitch about constantly...

I judge statements based on facts and evidences.
If you brainwash someone with the truth (fact and evidence) it's not nearly the same.

>No, only physical laws are truths - BECAUSE THEY'RE TRUE EVERYWHERE. What you call facts are subjective measurements of reality made by human beings. They don't have to hold true everywhere.
Only because of warped perception. Facts are just objective truths. It's up to a person to determine when or if they have been subject to distorted measurements which is easy enough to ascertain if you can think for yourself and assess information.
>For now. But it won't be true forever.
Wrong.
>And that won't be us. If you have empathy, you will be used. To be part of the elite tribe, you have to be sociopathic.
I wasn't suggesting it was, it's part of why I object to globalism.

I can't stand JLaw but that body truly is magnificent.

Wrong. Physical laws are facts. Truth can be told in fiction or parable or myth. Truth can be told in anecdote. Facts are not truth. Truth is a transcdent element of reality that can be understood by man. Facts are just details of description.

What part do you think she got for this? Hunger Games or X-men?

>get tattoos
>be a faggot
>get your dick cut off
>raise taxes
>white people bad
>give your grandkids future away
>die
You forget to put on your \pol/ glasses this morning?

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Both cannot really be true if you think about it, because Jow Forums is contrarian. We only believe what they tell us not to believe.

whatever lets (((you))) sleep at night

>If anons wanted dopamine kicks, they wouldn’t be user
What's wrong with you? Posting as an user is the most risk free method to talk about one's ideas.
>they would be on Facebook and Twitter.
That's narcissm you fagget.
>I’m here because it’s the only place to get unfiltered, raw analysis from people who actually want to know the truth and abhor cognitive biases.
You're joking? Right? Jow Forums is literally full of people with cognitive biases.
>Also a great place to challenge your own biases.
Or get indoctrinated by the biases of others.
>I’m also short twitter and I would love to see that platform die in a fire
Kek.

>if we treated women like Muslims it MIGHT be better but you have to admit us in the west are doing our best to find the best way for everybody, white people.
Kek.

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They’re telling us the sky is blue...so what’s Jow Forums‘s opinion on this?

See where your statement doesn’t add up?

Weve been over this. Jow Forums doesnt hide from idea. The strongest ideas win out here.

How about instead of meaningless terms like brainwashed we use arguments with susbstance?

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Well duh
That is the whole point innuit

we are. I used to look at Jow Forums once in a blue moon. Now I post about the evils of transhumanism everyday

>Facts are just objective truths.
No. That's the problem. Opinions are beliefs held by individuals. Facts are opinions that can be corroborated by everyone (everyone) and everywhere.

Statistics are used to present "Facts". Statistics are summaries of data. Data is summary of how the universe is.

So first you have the objective truth - the universe. Then you have a summary - data. Then you have another summary - statistic. Finally, you have an opinion - peddled as a fact.

Facts are not objective truths. Most people don't know the difference and thus it is easy to subvert the entire human race.
>Wrong.
Right. Single cellular organisms evolved into multi-cellular organisms. Multi-cellular organisms evolved into complex life-forms.
Single cellular organisms still exist, but in complex multi cellular organisms each cell performs a specialized function.

Humans have evolved from small tribes, to villages, to cities, to nations, and now to groups of nations.

A complex planetary organism that consists of humans, where each human specializes in his/her task, is now EVOLUTIONARILY INEVITABLE.
>I wasn't suggesting it was, it's part of why I object to globalism.
Object all you want. It will happen. Evolution demands it.

Sometimes I believe that some nazi elite survived, and the modern meme and chan culture is a grand new plan for them to win back the world.

In the wave of chaos, only the truth can survive.

>Wrong. Physical laws are facts.
Physical laws are laws. But ok.
>Truth can be told in fiction or parable or myth.
Then it's not the truth, is it. WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS LOGICAL CONSISTENCY. TRUTH EXISTS IN REALITY, NOT IN FICTION.
>Facts are not truth.
Fair.
>Truth is a transcdent element of reality that can be understood by man. Facts are just details of description.
Sure. I agree.

There is a sort of brainwashing on Jow Forums. A lot of talk about hating the individual jew and not enough talk on how to defeat Israel where the heart of the problem really lies. Want to defeat ((them)) go to the source of the problem. ((JIDF)) are even stirring this immense hatred but why? I believe it has something to do with promoting a 2nd transfer agreement. Israel wants to grow and to do that you need bodies. There are more joos in Manhattan then in Israel go figure. There needs to be more coverage of BDS and free Palestine threads on here. That’s my opinion.

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>Weve been over this. Jow Forums doesnt hide from idea. The strongest ideas win out here.
>The strongest ideas win out here.
How delusional can one get?

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You cannot "brainwash" with facts. You can radicalize, but not brainwash.

yea it's like "white noise" on a tv, chaos doesn't make sense until a picture forms