A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Why does the "well regulated" part keep getting ignored? What's well regulated about the american firearm market?
Pls explain for a person from a country with common sense.
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It hasn't been ignored. It's always meant to govern or direct according to rule.
Nothing is regulated with firearms here. You can be a psychopath and purchase as many handguns as you want. The gun laws here are a joke and is the reason why there is a mass shooting every 2-3 days in this white trash country.
>well-regulated militia
It's not implying that the arms and arms market should be regulated, nor should there be regulations as to who can own arms.
A well regulated militia and the right for people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia ("well-organized" is a lot less accurate but better understood to modern day terms) is necessary for a free state to remain free.
Americans should have free access to any arms, not just firearms, so long as they can afford it.
>inb4 legislation to make glawk $4500 just to prevent anyone from owning one
>A well regulated Militia
Militias, by definition, are not well-regulated, dumbass. Should the government prove to be oppressive, the militias are there to overthrow it. If they're well-regulated, dumbass, the government would wipe them out without any resistance because they'd know exactly what they were doing, where they were and what armaments they had. Their usefulness in protecting against outside attackers is secondary. Nobody will attack America on our soil unless they're pussies who suicide attack. Fucking pussies. Muslims are fucking pussies.
have you ever actually tried to get a hand gun? i'd say no.
its not retards just cant into old english
"Well-regulated" means well-supplied.
have you ever tries purchasing a handgun?
in ct i had to take a nra course, do two sets of fingerprints, state and federal, backround checks and they even called my boss to ask him if i was a psycho
after that i waited 3 months, to get a temperary permitt, which i had to take to the DESPP to finally get my final permitt, and every time i buy a pistol they still do a backround check
A well regulated(functioning) militia requires an armed population to call up
I live in a Republican district in Texas and I still had to have a digital background check run on me when I bought a revolver last year.
Well regulated means well-trained. Try googling before posting dumb shit next time.
Well regulated, in the founders’ parlance, meant well equipped and trained.
BUT
It a justification clause doesn’t matter, as the second doesn’t secure the rights of the militia, it secures the right of the people.
but that's also not the case
Excellent shitpost. I feel like I'm actually on r/politics!
If you honestly think that a well-regulated militia only refers to national guards, think about this
>google what is known as a ward republic
>still think ordinary ppl shouldn't be allowed to bear arms
Checkmate, Mountain Anglo!
law.cornell.edu
"Held:
1. The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home. Pp. 2–53."
Google what the phrase means, you dumb piece of shit. Sage
You are confused and angry, my friend. You should seek counseling.
>Well regulated means well-trained.
What? Do you understand the purpose of a militia? Government regulation for a failsafe makes that failsafe impotent. The government has its military, and the people should have its own.
Personally I don't mind if this country had a neutrality amendment like Switzerland and then have mandatory conscription on the adult populace like Austria, Finland, and Switzerland to keep us in shape and teach us proper firearm training while not infringing on the Second Amendment.
It also makes historical sense for the American populace to be the militia, a very large one, and defend itself against all enemies foreign and domestic.
you should have bought from a private person, the law has you on a list now
>The government has its military,
which is composed of the people
you mean zog
Nothing has changed since yesterday. Stop being a faggot and buy a gun.
....yeah
It's composed of order-takers, made that way by the elite to enforce their will. What if the elite needs to be kept in check? The civilian population needs to be able to overthrow the government if it gets too corrupt and oppressive.
>inb4 it'll never happen.
The reason for the word even existing is that it happens constantly throughout history.
well regulated mean well practiced in the use of arms by regular use not in the statist sense of regulation where they restrict or limit the use..
I cant help but wonder how many other strong opinions you hold that lack foundation in experience.
Ignorance is no excuse for this level of faggitry. Do the world a favor and go get some life experience before casting another shitup vote.
well regulated means in good working order or well equipped
a well equipped and working militia is essential
too the security of a free state
Why does "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." get ignored?
Halt die fresse du schwuchtel.
Translate.
shut the fuck up faggot
I have no idea why we are still debating the second amendment...
District of Columbia v. Heller
"The Amendment’s prefatory clause announces a purpose, but does not limit or expand the scope of the second part, the operative clause. The operative clause’s text and history demonstrate that it connotes an individual right to keep and bear arms."
Because the militia is well-regulated, and the ZoG doesn't want people forming militias, so they make up this pilpul about guns being well-regulated.
It's not ignored, you can't read. That first part is an observation not a requirement.
>we observe the posibility to start a well-regulated militia is important
>therefore, the right to bear arms shall not be infringed
Simple.
Define militia
"The “militia” comprised all males physically capable of acting in concert for the common defense. The Antifederalists feared that the Federal Government would disarm the people in order to disable this citizens’ militia, enabling a politicized standing army or a select militia to rule. The response was to deny Congress power to abridge the ancient right of individuals to keep and bear arms, so that the ideal of a citizens’ militia would be preserved."
I have clinical depression and have regular sucidal thoughts. I have a concealed weapons permit and own multiple guns, and I could walk into a store right now buy a gun and blow my brains out in front of the cashier.
That is the God-given right my forefathers fought for me to have, and you will never take it away from me.
Why do you ignore the militia part?
>I could walk into a store right now buy a gun and blow my brains out in front of the cashier.
No you can't. There's a mandatory waiting period, so you'd have to wait three days, return, pick up your gun, load it and put it to your head. If you got that far, I'd be astounded.
Sure, you could use a gun you already owned on the first visit, but that's not what you said.
I don't think you'd do either, though. Being here shows you at least have some principles. Blowing your head off could harm what you believe in.
Have you ever bought a gun before? I walked out of a pawn shop with a rifle the same day.
>Participial Phrases
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, and owing to the fact that Ben franklin porked 5 french woman, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
The definition of the right doesnt change.
Also and awesome black friday gun deals? I have looked and most are meh...
>nanny state full of disarmed cucks
Sure, you’re certainly a country with “common sense”...for the ruling elite and no one else
Then it was an illegal exchange. A one-day for long guns and three-days for handguns is federally imposed and applies to both gun shows and pawn shops. Only individuals who aren't licensed gun brokers can exchange on the same day, and I can't even guarantee that's not discouraged. Yes, I own firearms.
Why the fuck would the government need to make an amendment stating they have the right to form their own military you paint-sniffing kike
INCORRECT INFORMATION IS FALSE INFORMATION
Not every state has waiting periods. They are not mandated on a federal level.
Not true you dumb cuck. Entirely depends on what state you live in. Every gun I've bought I walked out with it 30 minutes later. But I also lost them all in a tragic boating accident.
>nanny state full of disarmed cucks
you wot? You realize that a large array of weapon types are considered hunting tools in austria and available without permit?
This includes shotguns btw. Basically you can buy every non-auto rifle just by being an adult here.
Horseshit. In Texas, if you have no criminal record, you wait fifteen minutes while your federal background check clears, and you walk out of the store with a rifle or handgun.
This has been answered so many times. Why do you keep asking?
All they have do is look you up in the NCIC data base.
Why do you think they kept it that way? Austria is one of the better countries for Europe but you still are sold a huge tip of the scales in the government’s favor as “common sense”. It’s not about public safety, it’s about consolidating power
>preventing people from buying easily concealed weaponry is bad
how's the handgun crime statistics looking, burger?
There is no federal waiting period retard, it depends on your state.
10-12k deaths by firearms annually in a population of 320 million ain’t bad. Doctors kill more people than handguns.
>ain’t bad
>worst in the world
????
is this burger logic?
>A well regulated library, being necessary to the security of a free State. the right of the people to keep and read, shall not be infringed.
Who has the right to keep and read books? The library or the people?
>worst in the world
Go check Honduras. They hardly have any guns.
Justification Clause:
>A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State,
Operative Clause:
>the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Regulate:
Means to make regular, or in regular working order, like a well regulated clock, means that the clock is telling time properly.
Do we hve to have this thread everyday?
“Well regulated” doesn’t mean laws governing ownership. That is a modern interpretation. “Well regulated” as used in the context of the 2nd Amendment means well equipped and prepared.
Oh, we also have more guns than all the standing armies of the world combined. So yeah, not bad at all.
correct for niggers faggot
>different day
>same fucking shill slide thread
it's all so tiresome
the kikes are trying to slide something, what is it boys?
KYS nigger.
"Well-regulated" in that sense meant "these militias should be a very regular thing".
In other words: do your civic duty, America. Start a militia today and use it as an excuse to lose some weight.
>3 months
Wtf, bro. Are you from Waterbury? The State statute says 8 weeks.
>Mfw living in Moodus & got my temp after a week, and my permit in 5.
More faggot shit.
It's none of your fucking business you panty hose wearing faggot
Means no roving bands of raiders
Only defensive forces
What?
That's worse than in Europe, except no one here gives half a flying fuck about having handguns because what's fun about them.
Because it is a subordinate clause in the English language. The main clause is "the right of the people shall not be infringed"
It means fuck Austria
Sage
>15k ish deaths in a country of 320 million people
Pretty good to me. You’re gonna wish you had the ability more and more as the years go by and more third world future doctors invade your country
Considering there are more guns here then people, and considering our demographic makeup, we’re doing fantastic
This scene affected me more than any other when I was a child.
I bought my 1st rifle out of a store on my 18th birthday. Everything after that was a private purchase.
Stop replying to those fucking threads
37,133 Deaths from cars in the last year. So does that mean we should ban assault cars xddd
>Why does the "well regulated" part keep getting ignored?
>A well regulated Militia
It's the militia that is to be well regulated, not the firearms market.
And as far as I know, militias are kept on a pretty short leash.
I'd rather have 11 pages of anti-gun slide threads where everyone tells OP to fuck off than practically any other bullshit thread that gets posted here lately.
Well regulated means amply prepared in this context. Not regulated by a government body.
This
>well regulated
You have to go back to the time the 2nd Amendment was written.
The phrase "well-regulated" was in common use long before 1789, and remained so for a century thereafter. It referred to the property of something being in proper working order. Something that was well-regulated was calibrated correctly, functioning as expected.
Also the Militia IS the people not a separate group. The Supreme Court decided it long ago.
>Well regulated Militia
You should emigrate to an enlightened country more to your liking, so you won't have to deal with our backward ways.
Start a GoFundMe to leave. If you renounce your Citizenship & post proof, I'll pay the exit tax the government hits you with. It's usually between 5-7 thousand dollars.
I'll round it up to an even 10 if you prove that you're not a racist, and you go to a utopian state like Venezuela or one of the sub-Saharan paradises.
learn some grammar faggot
He's not wrong. If you live in a free state, as long as you are not a criminal and have the money, you can walk into a shop, get any ammo and semi auto guns you want, whenever you want.
Pistol start
>how's the handgun crime statistics looking, burger?
Breddy gud without niggers
That scene is why I bought mine nowhere near where I live
>wait fifteen minutes while your federal background check clears
Not bad. In Ohio as long as you have a CCW no federal background check needed. I'm out in 5 minutes.
Article 1, section 8 you fucking retard.
>Why the fuck would the government need to make an amendment stating they have the right to form their own military you paint-sniffing kike
freedom of assembly you glowmonkey
Why do the areas with the strictest gun control have the most gun related crime? Sounds like something is wrong with the common sense of gun grabbers.
Not in Michigan 1.2 million