>The long-held idea that Europeans were the first to bring tuberculosis to the Americas when they arrived in the 15th Century has been thrown into doubt.
>Instead, a study suggests that the deadly disease was present in the area hundreds of years before Christopher Columbus made landfall.
>Genetic tests reveal that humans were probably not responsible for moving TB to the New World at all - instead, seals carried it there.
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Yeah but didn't you give them blankets that spread smallpox?
that happened in the mid-1700s. Quite a few years after the Colombian expeditions.
I wasn't there, dude.
wasn't that more devastating?
Because ya know... i never even knew about the tuberculosis, knew about the smallpox though.
Before Pizarro Incans suffered a smallpox outbreak and they were weaker.
Btw, "American genocide" = mostly smallpox. Don't believe in leyenda negra
>wasn't that more devastating?
Not in the slightest
I don't know the exact figures, but in the years that followed the first time Columbus made landfall, a vast majority of the native population in the Americas died.
Again, I don't know the exact figures, but I do know it was more than 50%.
Yeah it was pretty funny, you guys still have us beat at owning natives though
Someone dared a brave to blow a seal and this was the result.
The smallpox blanket thing is bullshit.
Estimates go up to 80%, most of which died without ever seeing a Spaniard.
How would you know? Did the Indians keep detailed population records?
Indians gave Europeans Syphilis. So, we're even.
I believe we can make reasonable estimates based on archaeological findings/logical conclusions about population density in regards to how many people their civilizations could support.
But honestly, I have no idea how they do it.
That doesn't tell us how many died from smallpox though.
we have found some skeletons from Roman times that look like they have been infected woth it
Wtf, I love seals now.
that's the most mischievous looking seal I've ever seen.
Now we know why they're so cruel to seals
Based sealbros, clearing out America for the white man
I tried to pick a seal pic that would catch the eyes of readers.
Proof jesus came to america
Will you stop perpetuating this meme? The professor who wrote that was literally kicked out of the University he was teaching at. He made all of it up from one conflated incident. A native did infect a tripe with a small pox blanket, but it wasn't given to him by soldiers.
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You guys need to educate yourselves.
You did good, bud.
They committed genocide and got away with it, you'd be smug too.
I assume this has something to do with the 7th Seal that kook at Waco was waiting for?
I knew we clubbed those fuckers for a reason
if anything it's proof that roman dalmatians in their search for potato and tobacco found STD
Mormons.
This runs deeper than I imagined.
does this mean seals are honorary aryans now?
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I live among these people.
Glow elders.
I knew the germ theory of disease hadn't been developed yet but I didn't know about the blatant fabrication. Thanks for the tip!
Honestly, the American education system is trash.
We know that by 1650 there were only around six million left in the Americas.
Also, you missed the best day of the year to have that source on hand. You can't deny a lot of the atrocities of our ancestors, but this absolutely makes lefties melt.
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>The researchers believe the marine mammals picked up the disease from people in Africa, where tuberculosis originated, and then carried it across the ocean.
How the fuck did that happen? Seal rape?
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In Hispaniola and other islands in 1493 it is estimated there were 60,000 to 1,000,000 natives. By 1517, one year before the estimated arrival of smallpox, the native population was 10,000-18,000., probably due to flu.
>TB is highly contagious and can be transmitted from an infected person to an uninfected person, mainly when a person with TB coughs, sneezes, speaks, or even sings (known as airborne transmission or airborne disease). Other people who breathe in the aerosolized bacteria can become infected. Some individuals have TB infections but show no symptoms because their bodies prevent TB organisms from growing. Patients with this type of infection are termed as having latent (dormant) TB. Individuals with latent TB have the organisms suppressed; in this condition, the individuals are not contagious for TB when the organisms are dormant. However, if a person with latent TB is no longer able to suppress the TB organisms, that individual can then become contagious.
>Mycobacterium tuberculosis organisms can survive for a while even in the deceased; to avoid getting TB, physicians who perform autopsies have to be careful not to spread the organisms into the air while they're doing their investigations.
Source: medicinenet.com
TL;DR: Catching TB is as easy as catching the common cold, but more lethal.
I wasn't talking about how people got it from Seals, that's easy enough to imagine. I'm talking about how Seals got it from people, which I imagined required someone coughing on a Seal, but seems to imply it can stay airborn for quite a bit, so I guess that explains it.
There probably isn't an accurate figure for North America as a whole but I know of some regions that had particularly bad smallpox epidemics, and others where smallpox was only a part in a series of epidemics.
>a series of epidemics
They should be thankful Europeans created modern medicine.
Based sea-doggo...
The europeans stole a lot of medicines and practices from the natives, including some we still use today. By the point we understood fully how diseases work they were already dead, so it probably doesn't matter much.
be honest man white people on the frontier did not have modern medsine they had morphine, alcohol, and quicksilver.
Back then that was true but without Europeans the Indians could be suffering from epidemics to this very day (assuming they survived earlier ones).
>The tuberculosis (TB) vaccine is rarely used in the United States.
>In most other countries, the vaccine for tuberculosis, known as the BCG vaccine, is used more commonly because of the frequency of tuberculosis.
>Tuberculosis kills more people in the world than any other infection. Each year about 10 million people are infected with TB and about 1.8 million die.
TB has an 18% chance of death.
>Extremely contagious, TB is spread through the simple act of sneezing, talking and coughing. Many people who are infected don't get sick right away; rather, the bacteria remains dormant, reactivating years, even decades, later. That's when lung disease and the characteristic cough begin.
There has to be a certain number of people before a disease could remain endemic long enough for them to have epidemics to this day.
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Would you expect the elk to keep account of their own numbers? If not, why would you think the natives were capable of the same?
What about it?
Never mind, I probably read between the lines wrong.
>In 2005, theDenver Postreported that Churchill's military records show he was trained as a film projectionist and light truck driver, but they do not reflect paratrooper school or LRRP training.[15][18]The75th Ranger Regiment Associationfound no record of Churchill having been a member of the unit, or a LRRP team.[19]
Guys, he LARP'd LRRP team membership. He is a professor without a PhD. He is an Indian tribe associate member without Indian blood. He makes assertions without supporting evidence. He says outrageous things to provoke the media and public.
He's one of us.
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>>In 2005, theDenver Postreported that Churchill's military records show he was trained as a film projectionist and light truck driver, but they do not reflect paratrooper school or LRRP training.[15][18]The75th Ranger Regiment Associationfound no record of Churchill having been a member of the unit, or a LRRP team.[19]
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>Guys, he LARP'd LRRP team membership. He is a professor without a PhD. He is an Indian tribe associate member without Indian blood. He makes assertions without supporting evidence. He says outrageous things to provoke the media and public.
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>He's one of us.
He's part of AIM. He's a Marxist. Or at least pretending really good at being a Marxist.
lol too funny
>bbc.com
Did you read the article before you wrote something stupid?
"Scientists have unearthed three ancient Peruvian skeletons that contain DNA from strains of TB. These 1,000-year-old remains predate the Europeans' arrival by about 500 years."
I wonder what other species could have carried diseases across continents besides seals and humans.
i don't think it's real
>no seal of approval jokes
I’m disappointed in you Jow Forums
lol
KeK,
Sealed the deal