Why are so many preppers obsessed with gold and silver?You can wipe your ass with that in case of a disaster

>Jew likes gold
Who would have thought.

economics are still in play in virtually any kind of disaster, you will survive the disaster and the gold will have value now and in the future, so if you have for example more meat than you can eat for yourself you can sell some for gold

every disaster eventually comes to an end. once the dust settles you can trade it in for whatever new currency has taken over.

>how come a currency that has survived 5000 years and overcomed all kind of economic disasters be valuable
I dunno OP, maybe because gold has real value as currency on an economic collapse, fucking fucktard?

May ask yourself why if gold is useless the BRICS have been stockpiling like crazy these last four years.

retard.

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i bet you like bbc you cuck

Because not everyone is mentally challenged like you. Some of us know how to make things with gold and silver. It will also be good for a trading currency.

Gold/silver is only useful if...

1. You survive.
2. The disaster ends.
3. After the disaster ends there is some semblance of a society left.

"I AM THE GREAT KING MIDAS!!"

*touches you*

"YOU'RE GOLD!"

Based

it's just metal bro,why so obsessed?

>items/commodities with short to med term practical value
I find it difficult to argue against this.

The one thing these autistic goldbugs fail to take into account is that armed men can band together and kill them for their gold.

Imagine a huge disaster happens, all governments for thousands of miles around collapse and a power vacuum emerges. Sure, owning a supply of gold can be very useful in establishing your own power after the chaos dies down. But in the chaos, any significant supply of gold will change ownership, and this will happen based on which man has the most armed men on his side, or is the first to re-establish institutions that maintain law and order of some sort.

In other words: if you're hoarding gold and you don't have at least a hundred armed men in your vicinity who would be loyal to you first and everyone else second, your fate is that of a sucker who's robbed by a smarter man on day one of the happening.

And, don't forget, others respect your ownership of the gold. If I lead ten armed men and surround your house, what the fuck are you going to do? Tell me I need to give you something of equivalent subjective value in exchange for your gold? I'd give you $.50 worth of lead and be done with you.

even in the worst case, you will probably be interacting with people, and people will speculate that the gold/silver has value, so you can still use it to obtain goods

electric circuits

because is the only thing that fullfill the proper definition of a currency by clasical terms, not by the jewish fiat modern terms.

retard.

I bet you think colored printed monopoly paper by the FED is real currency.

I have 5 gold and 100 silver, so you're doing better than me schlomo .

No. Gold/silver is only useful after the disaster has ended. If food/water/medicine is in very short supply, which is will be in the event of a major disaster, then people will not trade their continued survival for an uncertain future profit.

>cant be robbed if you have nothing of value

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I can turn ammunition into all those things

Best use of silver is killing the few species of cryptid that are weak to it.

>People want food and medicine,not useless shiny metal pieces

at first, yes - eventually the complexity in natural exchanges will become too great, do a sturdy pair of shoes cost 15 cans of beans and 2 zippo lighters or not ? etc. Some medium will have to be established, for a very long time precious metals were considered that medium and since fiat paper money will be used as fire starter or wallpapers - the old exchange medium will return

people do almost anything for money, they just need very little food/water/medicine for themselves and they can sell the excess if the price is right

Gold is good once things come back. Pain pills will be the most valuable in the collapse

>interacting with people

Fuck! There’s no upside to this whole happening thing is there.

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Poor people will never understand.

fucking commie, of course you don’t understand because it is only as valuable as the labor to produce it, yes?

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Not what I'm saying.

What I'm saying is this: the final value of gold after any significant event is only achieved through manpower, social organization, leadership, and guns. Your starting position on the playing board of an apocalyptic event should be one where you hold weapons and men while the other guys hold valuables ripe for the picking.

What is it that gives gold intrinsic value?
Once I know that, then I'll start buying it.

Unless you know a disaster will eventually end and roughly when it's going to end, there is no such thing as an excess of food/water/medicine.

ask the countries stockpiling it

Alloys, electronics, jewelry

rarity

thru out all of history thru out all economic and civilizational collapses... gold has remained valuable and sought after. what makes you think its changed?

>implying I only hoard silver and gold

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It can't be printed by the FED and you need to extract huge effort to produce it.

same concept as bitcoin.

these are uses for gold not why gold has intrisic value. these uses were discovered and add to its value sure but gold is valuable because its rare.

>Once I know that, then I'll start buying it.
No you won't, let's be real here.

I was thinking about that, and in that case, it's a matter of utility. Many things are more useful.
And many things are rarer.

your dog looks retarded

This is really a stupid false argument.
No "prepper" has physical gold and silver without also having food, water, weapons, first aid supplies, etc, etc.
Your statement is self-negating.

Do you think a prepper stores only gold and expect to buy the ravaging barbarians once the society collapses ? A prepper stores everything else as well, along (if he is smart) with other people that will form a core of a new group once SHTF. Having gold ON TOP of that will ensure, being able to buy off individuals with marketable traits to further the prosperity of your group.

People give gold/silver value.

No U!

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>balding asian
rare

(1) It must be durable, which is why we don’t use wheat or corn or rice.

(2) It must be divisible, which is why we don’t use art work.

(3) It must be convenient, which is why we don’t use lead or copper.

(4) It must be consistent, which is why we don’t use real estate.

(5) It must possess value in itself, which is why we don’t use paper.

(6) It must be limited in the quantity that is available, which is why we don’t use aluminum or iron.

(7) It should have a long history of acceptance, which is why we don’t use molybdenum or rhodium.

Only GOLD and SILVER fit all seven characteristics.

don't deny joel

Fuck. Guess I found my employer once things get up and running again.

How about preparing for the 99.99% chance the local currency loses its value but supply lines stay. 1920's Germany, present day Venezuela, or any other situation. The days of growth via usury will come to an end soon, that is why you want gold and silver. Stop beating off to Mad Max, it wont happen like that

Ah well. Not everyone can buy meat.

Anyways, the question is at what point gold becomes useful as currency, and at what kind of catastrophy we are facing.
I can only see it useful in a financial crisis, otherwise I would stockpile useful stuff.
Antibiotics, ammo, fuel, etc. as a barter economy would be the precursor to a gold-backed economy and also be more useful during the catastrophy itself. Ammo and stuff will buy you the gold needed to stay afloat in the gold-backed economy regardless.

This.

whats up with gold ? its useless metal to me.

even if you give it to me for free i wont take it

Gold is refined from iron pyrite (Fool's Gold), by dragons in deep underground caverns.

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gold is always and HAS ALWAYS been useful as currency. jesus christ does history not exist to you or something?

Then you're an absolute retard.

Money HAS TO BE:
>Durable
>Transferable
>Divisible
>Intrinsically valuable
>Scarce
>Recognisable
>Fungible

Only gold and silver meet these requirements thanks to the properties these metals have. They are therefore intrinsically valuable and will be until the end of the world. Also, you can go anywhere in the world and anywhere on the world and gold and silver will be valuable.

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the only difference between gold and cash is that it's shinier, but you would sell your mother for either since you are a brainwashed golem

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gold has been valuable for at least 5k years.
gold is valuable POST collapse when civilization re-establishes. It will hold some value in ways other things cannot.

I have half that in gold, 50 more ounces in silver, but I have 2 acres in land along with a dilapidated house in Hungary and a sizeable crossbow collection :DDDD
I hope these language classes and investments pay off. Going to be upset if a lifetime of prep ends up meaningless.

Gold is easy to measure the amount of while food and medicine will always be consumed and produced at fluctuating rates. If a disaster does happen though I admit gold might be a bit too rare to serve as a currency as it is all held by a small group of elites so there would be many people that would reject it in a post apocalyptic setting.

yes they use it to modify their dna and jew collect all the gold for them. but what does a normal human like me get from it ? so gold is useless.

Nice points, I'm aboard.

> hi hungry
> I'm gold

Hate to inform you, but real "prepping" doesn't involve storing food/water/medicine/gold/silver. It involves storing knowledge.

Your food/water/medicine and even weapons will eventually run out. If a disaster lasts long enough or even is an end of the world scenario, you wont have enough to last you. It can also be stolen from you.
Learning how to fend for yourself is something that will never run out, and cannot be taken from you. If you know how to secure food, clean water, build shelter and start a fire with nothing but twigs, you can live your entire life with this.

Stop stockpiling shit and start learning.

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>he doesn't know his printed monopoly paper loses all it's value in 27 years
dumb goyim.

because it's a status symbol

Wrong. Salt fits all of these while also being a required element for life, one which most people will not be getting much of if the world ends. So not only does it have all of these, but it has natural value.

Empires of old were build and destroyed because of salt. The same can't be said for gold or silver.

Land and the means to protect it is the only real value that matters.

Ammo.

then explain to me whats good about gold ?

Sorry, I meant to say:
>Also, you can go anywhere in the world and anyWHEN throughout time and gold and silver will be valuable.

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The Learned Elders of Zion taught me that i'm a goycuck without gold

>I got about 22 ounces of gold and 250 ounces of silver. How will I do?
you will starve to death

Because we all know preppers aren't doing both.

See:

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>People want food and medicine,not useless shiny metal pieces
Once you have an acceptable pile of food, water and firearms, you can create a wealth that is not tied to any fiat currency that will have value at any point in time during a collapse. >Your food/water/medicine and even weapons will eventually run out.
This exactly. If you need to run, you cannot take all of it with you. Prepping is mostly knowledge, skills and an understanding that you may not be civilized for a time, and that is ok. You can always bury your valueables and come back for them when it is safe. This includes food, water, guns and gold.

This.

salt is not scarce.

without power or access to the net your crypto is crap.
with central banking investors able to crash any economy by dumping their treasury bonds at once your fiat is also worthless.
gold and silver are a pain in the ass to store and use but they are able to be traded without power or a central bank

Precious metals have one purpose and that is to hedge against inflation. So say the USD inflates to worthless paper. Then you take your gold and invest into the next world reserve currency. The government will take your gold and build a reserve currency of their own. See how that works?

Gold is the smartest investment you can make long as you know how to use it.

This explains why countries that want to see the USD collapse are investing in gold like Russia.China, Iran,Venezuela, Germany.

but i dont need all of this.

Wrong. Salt is actually scarce. You just live in the modern world and are use to all the advantages this brings. Including an entire production and distribution network for salt.

Once this vanishes, your local supply of salt will vanish overnight, and unless you've stockpiled it, it will be used up in a week at most. After this, there will be no more salt. Within a month people will be dying because of lack of salt.

If you don't have a stockpile of salt, or know how to obtain it yourself once the current supply runs out, which will happen quickly, you will not survive for very long.

>muh zombie apocalypse
retard.

Do you really think I couldn't get enough chicken feed to keep egg laying birds healthy with a box or two of these if SHTF?

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I'm the retard because you got proven wrong?

In any situation where stockpiling gold and silver is actually possibly useful, salt stockpiles will rapidly dwindle and people will start dying due to lack of salt.

Rare and doesn’t spoil

why do u assume that society will return to iron age.

even in the case of a solar flare, electronics would simply need to be remade and society would return in a couple weeks or even months to be functional.

what disaster would mean humans suddenly forget how to build shit when we have millions of scientists and engineers today?

Its not up to you Juergen. the nature of reality dictates this is the definition of money and only gold and silver can meet these requirements

If society doesn't completely collapse, then why the fuck are people talking about stockpiling shit?

We're not talking about a small disaster like an earthquake which is fixed in a few days. We're talking about end of the world scenario WW3 nukes flying. The sort of thing that takes years or even decades to recover from, if recovery is even possible.