The UK’s withdrawal agreement from the European Union has been approved by EU leaders, its chief official Donald Tusk has announced.
The 27 leaders gave it their backing after less than an hour's discussion in Brussels.
Mr Tusk signalled on Saturday that the deal would be approved after Spain withdrew last-minute concerns over Gibraltar.
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Your country is fucked, best Jonestown yourselfs
now it just needs to pass parliament, which it won't.
>3 line whip
>implying it won't pass
If this deal goes through we're 'technically' out of the EU, and that's it
Waste of time
Does this mean Theressa May's failed deal going through? I heard it is brexit only by name.
It's not even Brexit in name since Ireland is still in the EU and there's no border with Ireland. so we can't stop Poles and Romanians from coming in still.
Is it going to destroy any parties?
Can't 3 line whip the dup
If it doesn't get through may will be gone within 48 hours to stop Labour forcing a election
Enough torys know this
The only way to save brexit is to wait
Prepare all 48 letters for the day of the deal
Vote down the deal
Immediatley call leadership election
Then we get a real brexit
What does this mean? I swear you guys just make up words to fuck with us yanks.
>Can't 3 line whip the dup
"here's another billion quid for when you finally decide to get off your arse and start doing your jobs again"
Done
The party sends a letter telling MPs when votes are and that they have to attend. Underlined once (1 line whip) means you won't get in trouble if you don't bother, underlined twice (2 line whip) means you will get a bollocking if you don't turn up because it was a close vote. Underlined thrice (3 line whip) means unless you are actually dead at the time, you WILL turn up to vote or you will be kicked out of the political party.
They've had MPs being transported by ambulance to vote, with the opposition and government arguing whether an MP had died on the journey and therefore whether his vote should count.
It basically means all the Tory party mps will be on notice, either turn up and vote how we want or there will be consequences.
However that's irrelevant because they are planning to kick the treasonous cunt out soon as the vote is finished
Thanks friend that clears it up. Good luck going forward.
no border with Ireland, £39bn divorce bill, bending the knee to Spain.
we're truly a cucked nation.
> here's another billion quid
Isn't going to happen
> 3 line whip
Tereasa won't 3 line whip her mps and if she does it'll just make them more likely to oust her and therefore they will have less incentive to follow through
So guys, what’s happening now.
10 December you lads have the “meaningful” vote. If the deal gets rejected, why wouldn’t Scotland and Northern Ireland announce independence referendums?
Scotland needs Westminster's permission to hold a referendum
Care to explain? This deal is just the withdrawal. The future trade deal hasn’t been negotiated yet, so it could be anything from a Russia type relationship to Ukraine to Turkey to Norway to Switzerland to Canada. How do you know the details of a deal which hasn’t been negotiated?
If it gets voted down Tereasa will be kicked out within 48 hours
We will automatically go to no deal brexit
Scotland and NI can't do shit unless the UK government says they can.
And anyway NI doesn't want to leave the uk that's the whole point
Can we just stop this brexit nonsense. I dont care if it's the right thing or wrong thing to leave the EU, we've made ourselves look like a bunch of pricks on the world stage.
What stops Scotland demanding the permission? I believe Northern Ireland got the right to a referendum in the Good Friday Agreement.
Without Westminster agreement, the Scottish vote would be as legitimate as the catalan one was
Not having a army
They can kick and scream like petulant children all they want but it isn't up to them
And some shitty pie chart without a proper title or sauce is meaningless
>We will automatically go to no deal brexit
Even though 90% of British MPs oppose that?
>Scotland and NI can't do shit unless the UK government says they can.
I think this is wrong as to NI. On Scotland it is debatable, I think they can hold a referendum, but London could reject the result... which would be a massive blow against the Scottish people and would harden the leave side in Scotland.
>Underlined thrice (3 line whip) means unless you are actually dead at the time, you WILL turn up to vote or you will be kicked out of the political party. They've had MPs being transported by ambulance to vote, with the opposition and government arguing whether an MP had died on the journey and therefore whether his vote should count.
Your government sounds very exciting and fun, unlike ours. I'm jealous.
Why doesn't May get kicked out of leadership and replaced by someone who actually supports Brexit? She is a remainer.
(1) Because the devolved assemblies are subordinate to Parliament in Westminster, which created them and can abolish them, juggle them, kick them around the room any time they want.
(2) The majority of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland are LOYAL. The SNP in particular suffered a bloodbath in 2017 (hilarious, it was).
Eggs zactly, kameraden
For the future of all of us, I hope that you don't pass it in you parliament and show us that no deal brexit is a better choice. It's essential for motivating other member states to leave too. P-please guys.
Why are the main problems the UK government has with the Brexit deal?
So any details yet on what happened with Gibraltar?
The DUP wouldn't prostitute Northern Ireland. They won't support the Tories because it attempts to rend Northern Ireland from the rest of the UK, which they fundamentally cannot abide.
So what does that mean? Are the brits out or nah?
Why would you want to leave?
We are obliged to follow EU rules but no longer have a say in them.
We are obliged to obey EU laws and the EU supreme court remains superior to our own highest court.
We have no border with Ireland, and Ireland still has free movement, so we can't stop EU people coming in.
We can make trade deals with other countries, but are still in the EU trade bloc so our deals must abide by EU rules regardless.
Staying in the EU trade bloc is temporary, but we can't leave unilaterally and the EU must agree to let us out of it.
We must still pay ~50bn dollars to them and continue paying into the EU government's pension fund for it's employees for an indefinite period after we leave.
Spain is being a dick about Gibraltar.
>Because the devolved assemblies are subordinate to Parliament in Westminster,
NOT THE CASE FOR NORTHERN IRELAND IN RELATION TO CREATING A UNITED IRELAND
Yes, we are aware. they have the same deal as the falklands, they can vote whenever and leave if they vote to
We're out either way, it's just a matter of whether we get to take our balls with us.
Personally, I spit on May's deal and would like to see her crushed to death in a refuse truck.
FUERA DE LA ROCA PIRATAS!
Do you even have to ask at this point? Or is that sarcasm?
Correct.
If there is no deal, why would the Norhern Irish not stage a referendum on unification? The only other option is a hard border. Yes, under WTO rules, if the UK has different tariffs and different market rules, Ireland/the EU have a legal obligation to make sure any goods coming into the EU single market are treated the same way as any goods coming in from e.g. Russia or America or China.
The conservatives most likely and probably individual labour MPs if any of them vote for it.
>We are obliged to follow EU rules but no longer have a say in them.
>We are obliged to obey EU laws and the EU supreme court remains superior to our own highest court.
>We have no border with Ireland, and Ireland still has free movement, so we can't stop EU people coming in.
>We can make trade deals with other countries, but are still in the EU trade bloc so our deals must abide by EU rules regardless.
>Staying in the EU trade bloc is temporary, but we can't leave unilaterally and the EU must agree to let us out of it.
It sounds like almost nothing would change.
1.What of the original Brexit idea is even left?
2. That's a "head you win-tails I lose" level of unfairness. Why wouldn't vote for this?
3. Is it expected to pass?
Northern Ireland doesn't want to be unified, it's an economic black hole that the Republic won't support
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There is nothing about them being allowed to call referenda whenever they please, just some vague ‘recognising’ and ‘acknowledging’ that the people of Northern Ireland be allowed to determine their status vis-à-vis the United Kingdom.
Fix your capslock you germ faggot. Since the Stormont assembly was re-established in 1998 (after its suspension in 1972 then abolition in 1973), it has been suspended four times so far. It’s our plaything to do with as we please.
Stop stirring up shit you know nothing about—haven’t you kraut insects done enough damage for one millennium you have to carry it on for another?
You should look up PMQs highlights, or just watch it Wednesday midday on British news
1. Nothing. People broadly wanted; no free movement, no more EU Court of Justice and bilateral trade deals. None of those things are delivered.
3. Yes, because despite all the bitching and whining, MPs are cowards and won't risk a no deal brexit.
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A new poll conducted by Deltapoll, which had a sample size of 1,199 showed that Brexit could tilt the majority of voters in Northern Ireland to support a United Ireland.
Support for the idea remained low if the United Kingdom were to give up on Brexit and stay in the European Union. In that case, only 40% of those in Northern Ireland would support reunification.
However, if Brexit goes ahead as it is expected to, that number jumps to 57%.
If the UK leaves with a hard border, which currently looks eminently plausible, then that figure climbs further to 58%.
Polls said Scotland would vote for independence too. Undecided voters vote for status quo
>Status quo
Remain was the status quo and lost
United Ireland is inevitable sooner or later because Catholics will be the majority soon as they have more kids than the proddies
There's hope for Britain left. Now, if the MPs can pull their heads out, it will all be for the better.
Going by the comments of the EU leadership, this is a done deal. They capitulated, they're not fighting it.
Hopefully Brits are watching Paris, and wake up that London is on it's way to looking like that, if Brexit fails.
That sucks. You are basically a ransom for nothing.
Did she finally get something done?
That poll has already been refuted: order-order.com
> In Deltapoll’s sample, 824 people voted to Remain while only 292 voted to Leave, a ratio of 74% to 26%. Northern Ireland only voted 56% to 44% in the referendum.
> 301 people who responded to the poll were supporters of the Alliance Party, allied with the Liberal Democrats, while only 162 were supporters of the pro-Union DUP. In the 2017 General Election the DUP got more than 4 times as many votes as the Alliance, who were beaten into 5th place with a measly 7.9%. At least they outperformed their Liberal Democrat allies…
> Deltapoll have weighted the sample but the raw data is so skewed that it puts major question marks over the credibility of the results. It just so happens that it produced exactly the headline the Remainers who commissioned it wanted…
The deal is a fix. We will pay as much in, have no say in EU and we can only get further away from the EU if the EU says so (the backstop). Its like being on an indefinite naughty step.
Literally staying in is better than this deal. If we get this deal we will be milked hard to keep tge EU afloat.
Polls said Scotland would vote against independence in 2014. Look it up.
I think the thing we can take away from this thread is that polls are useless
A lot of people are wondering that and it's probably because our politicians are as corrupt af, with some exceptions.
So what's going to end up happening to the Ireland and Scotland parts of the UK?
So, we will have the monkey rock or no?
Give your African bits back to Morocco and we can talk
sounds like a good deal for us
This is your punishment for imposing the Versailles Treaty on holy Germany. Karma's a bitch Britshit
Er strafe es
>3 line whip
May is getting ousted desu, she doesn't have enough political power to do that
It's hilarious how Brits think that leaving the EU will actually be better for them.
Isn't this deal the guaranteeing you will still be having to take in people and cover EU debts for an X number of years?
those bits never were morrocan.
Aren't they saying they were tricked into voting for it?
But you took your country back. Isn't that enough for you?
Any deal where one side is fanatically in favour and the other is overwhelmingly opposed is never a good idea