/nsg/ ᛉ - National Socialism General: Jannies Want Me Dead Edition /nsg/

NatSoc: an ideology so ineffectual it took two world superpowers to bring down a single small state.

That's the crazy thing about it
one country took on the whole world and damn near one

*won

Stormniggers get the rope too

THis

get ready to fall of the tenth page with your dead and irrelevant ideology

>a..all systems will inevitably f...fail so let's try this orwellian nightmare again commie-tier coping

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this. everyone in here who isn't larping hasn't read a single book besides mein kampf when they were 15. they'll never know the dangers of totalitarianism

page 7 already....you fags are death to everything you touch

>Stormniggers get the rope too
care to elaborate?
twitch.tv/videos/280105644

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it was not an orwellian nightmare

The truth is we've repeatedly won all the debates literally hundreds of times in the past and there just isn't much left to discuss now.

/nsg/ is honestly more like "redpill general"
you sound like someone who rather enjoys the degeneracy of the current culture
given that you're canadian, i can see why that would be

Thanks user. You should consider binding it with SIG as well. Plebbitors are coming here en mass recently and we're getting raided by shitlibs constantly. These threads will save countless lurkers.

>book burning
>persecuted for opposing ideology
>not Orwellian
AHAHAHAHAH

>two world superpowers
Well Britain and France still had most of their colonial empires then too, France had a population of something like 450 million to work with, the UK had a similar number and the most powerful navy in the world.

From the humiliation of the Weimar republic to conquering some of the strongest global powers. It was worth it.

He's most likely just a young libertarian. Hopeful idealism is eventually broken by the truth.
Don't forget the Soviet meat wall, admittedly nothing without lend-lease, but still the biggest theat in Europe.

bump

Bump since we now have 2 /nsg/ up keep it up guys

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>book burning
Mainly jewish or marxist bullshit and porn. Sounds based to me.
>persecuted for opposing ideology
Lmao all political ideologies do that in one way or another retard.

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fuck the jannies

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stfu hypocrite
>who was one of the founders socialism?
Marx
>national SOCIALISM

Hitler tried to redefine socialism he hated the marxian definition. A self described socialist wouldn't look at third reich economics and say "yeah that's socialism" but at the same time neither would a capitalist say it's capitalistic. Simplest way of putting it is that third position econimics uses a bit of both. It's right in the middle between capitalism and socialism.

If I had a fucking penny for every time I've had to explain this shit I'd be a very wealthy man.

not even the same thing
>t. a fucking leaf

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bumpity

How are we going to actually acheive our ends? I am fully behind the movement in every idealogical sense (aware of the jew, realize how powerful NatSoc is, want to cure the world of degeneracy), but I don't know where to start.

S.I. is important (stop watching porn, using drugs, exercise, read), and I'm trying to implement it in my life. But just being a better person isn't going to save the white race.

Also, protests like Charlottesville didn't really bring more people in, they just got publicity. Idk I've just been feeling kind of lost as to where we're going and how we can actually progress.

it's not that different Hitler supported welfare, taxed single families heavily, etc. And it miserably failed so much so that no one voted for it again after WWII and still no one advocates for it except a few people
>but muh employment rate infographic
they didn't count women or Jews and they broke the treaty of Versailles in the 30s
>b-but Hitler got voted on by a landslide
in the 30s anyone was a shave and a few fiery speeches away from becoming a leader he even lies in his speeches about christianity just to conform. he hated it
how is it not the same retard. one of the arguments I always hear is
>You cannot have nationalism without Socialism

shut up jooooooooooooo

correct me if I am wrong:
Wasn't it part of the fascist economics plan to entice larger companies with tax breaks to introduce new industry in a particular region?
Say for example, New York and Kentucky cutting taxes for Jeff Bezos at Amazon to add a new building to their state?
Let's say I'm mostly right there with my ham-fisted understanding, would that not be what also helped the Third Reich to be the workhorse that it was in the wake of the chaos caused by the Treaty of Versailles following the end of the Great World War which crippled Germany?
I mean, Hitler essentially subverted the banks, and removed the credit system (temporarily? if not permanently?)

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>"National Socialism is just (((socialism)))"

Marxist (Left) socialism and National (Right) Socialism are "antipodal zeitgeists engaged in dialectic". That's a fancy way to say they're opposite ideologies designed to clash, like Yin and Yang.

NatSoc was fundamentally an ideology built around race, while Marxist socialism was entirely different: built around class. Hitler aimed to unite the right and left, including workers and their bosses, into a new German nation based on racial identity. Socialism, in contrast, was a class war between workers, bosses, and owners (Capitalists), aiming to build a workers state in which race and gender were insignificant. Socialists, especially Marxist socialists, were anti-religious atheists, whereas NatSoc went so far as to make Christianity the religion of the state.

The differences go on and on: Marxist socialism was internationalist, NatSoc was nationalist. Marxist socialism was egalitarian, whereas NatSoc believed that nature was unequal and required competition. Marxist socialism wanted to nationalize all private industry, while NatSoc privatized every major industry except the railroads (it considered these a military asset). In fact, Hitler once joked "they didn't need to nationalize property because they nationalized people". NatSoc drew on a range of pan-German theories, which wanted to blend Aryan workers and Aryan magnates into a super Aryan state, which would involve the eradication of class-focused socialism as a non-German ideology.

demonstrate that it is the same
you're just playing word games
if it talks like a kike, it's probably a fucking kike

>marxian

NatSoc redefined socialism as "Germanism/Volkism", which they saw as "producer-oriented capitalism", as opposed to "Jewish capitalism", aka, international finance, globalism, wall street, etc. In theory, NatSoc economics was a version of Keynesianism, tailored to the Völkisch nature of whichever people adopted it. Its not one dogmatic economic system,and Hitler often joked that the lack of a specific ideology was their strength. NatSoc could be more "free market" as Americans know it, or less. But NatSoc is always in favor of the Volk over economic identity, of "producer capitalism" over "finance capitalism".

Hitler tried to clarify the distinction in 1938:
>“’Socialist’ I define from the word ‘social’ meaning in the main ‘social equity’. A Socialist is one who serves the common good without giving up his individuality or personality or the product of his personal efficiency.
>Our adopted term ‘Socialist has nothing to do with Marxian Socialism. ((((Marxism))) is anti-property; true socialism is not. ((((Marxism))) places no value on the individual, or individual effort, of efficiency; true Socialism values the individual and encourages him in individual efficiency, at the same time holding that his interests as an individual must be in consonance with those of the community. All great inventions, discoveries, achievements were first the product of an individual brain. It is charged against me that I am against property, that I am an atheist. Both charges are false.”

Marxian/Marxist are both correct.

Private property in the industry of the Third Reich is often considered a mere nominal provision without much substance. However, that is not correct, because firms, despite the rationing and licensing activities of the state, still had ample scope to devise their own production and investment profiles. Even regarding war-related projects, freedom of contract was generally respected; instead of using power, the state offered firms a number of contract options to choose from. There were several motives behind this attitude of the regime, among them the conviction that private property provided important incentives for increasing efficiency.

i'm sure you think they are, fascist scum

lol

Adolf Hitler understood the importance of branding. Are you doing enough to give your ideas a distinct, unique image? People want an idol, a statue to face. Hijacking an existing party and re-making it in your own image is what Hitler did, so maybe that's a point for consideration too.

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how about you show your real flag instead of hiding?

What's gotten you so assmad?

>projecting

That played a part too yeah. There's a bit in mein kampf where he goes on about how he designed the flag and picked the name of the ideology specifically to bait leftists into NSDAP meetings and blow them the fuck out.

>they supported welfare
>taxing single men
bbc.com/bitesize/guides/zxb8msg/revision/3

too cowardly to even show your nationality on an anonymous imageboard, that's just sad

I don't consider it hiding, it seems more like you're hiding your political ideology from my perspective.

Did you just learn what that word means? I haven't been in any way hostile, whereas you were getting pretty buttblasted over that other guy.
>bbc
Post a better source

here you go, now will you show it or find yet another excuse?

Typical slav

m8 they even punished companies for not following the governments economic interests
>The rhetoric of the Nazi regime stated that German private companies would be protected and privileged as long as they supported the economic goals of the government - mainly by participating in government contracts for military production - but that they could face severe penalties if they went against the national interest
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Nazi_Germany

buttmad about poles stealing all your girls again?

Stalin > soi boi hitler

lol idgaf, so what triggered you my dude?

They even said they hated social welfare but then they established charity institutions for racially pure people

>The rhetoric of the Nazi regime stated that German private companies would be protected and privileged as long as they supported the economic goals of the government
>but that they could face severe penalties if they went against the national interest
The instructions were pretty clear, besides what's wrong with punishing a country that fucks over it's people?

the mere sight of you. also, what's up with this guy?

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become leaders, awareness of our issues can only go so far. Hitler after all wanted to build, when you are a builder, people flock to you.

They hated (((social welfare))) for the same reason people hate it today. But they did have welfare for people who genuinely could not work, as well as social programs like the Winterhilfswerk

Still sounds Socialist and totalitarian to me. The government was so cheap in fact they used slave labour as I'm sure you know ;)

>the mere sight of you
Heil Hitler faggot.
>what's up with this guy?
Don't ask me. Natsoc is pretty much fascism + racial politics.

exactly, and the average intellect of a neo-nazi is visible in the picture

But they still had it for racially pure individuals

So you're arguing on feefees?
>slave labour
They were at war, and had a bunch of people interned, so they put them to work. It's no different from prison labour. Sauce. The winterhilfswerk was for everyone. Also a reminder that you're on Jow Forums, muh blue eyes meme doesn't work here.

AHH WHO CARES WWIII

There's always gonna be people learning about it, maybe he's new.

It's on the wikipedia. But Ukraine's at war now so I'm going to other thread. And no I'm not arguing and feelings whether you deny the holocaust they still had labour camps

Use another source besides wikipedia, I'll look at anything else, but wiki is both unreliable as well as kiked.
>I wasn't arguing on feefees
You based your entire muh nazi socialism on what FELT like socialism to you. And I didn't deny the work camps numb nuts.

Holy shit the Wikipedia has sources and socialism Enables laziness and doesn't work

I'm not sifting through a massive wiki page for a source on something I already know is untrue, and I've already talked about how National Socialism isn't fucking (((socialism))). Private property and free enterprise were both main tenants of the NatSoc ideology.

diggies confirm