Why should we hinder progress in the name of tradition?

>why should we hinder progress in the name of tradition?
Define "progress" and explain why "progress" trumps tradition

talking like voting rights, self driving vehicles etc

>technology
What "technology" would that be?

>science
What "science" would that be?

>rights
Which "rights" would those be?

How are those even a unified package. The first two can and have been used to get rid of the third

Yeah I know I read his Manifesto

>talking like voting rights,
"Voting rights" for whom?

>self driving vehicles etc
So you're fine with the loss of hundreds of thousands of driving jobs in the name of "progress"?

>Yeah I know I read his Manifesto
reading and understanding are two different things.

Progress means just moving forward and replacing traditions or the removal of them

We should be curtailing voting rights you idiot. Suffrage should be earned meritocratically. The current system that weighs the vote of a meth head equally to educated lawyers, property owners, and veterans is a catastrophic failure.

Define "progress", define "tradition."

If progress = something that's never been tried before in human history vs. tradition = what has worked for thousands of years, then I will just stick with tradition, tyvm.

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>Progress means just moving forward and replacing traditions or the removal of them
And why is that a good or acceptable thing?

the truth of the universe doesn't change just because there are mixed-race babies or faster cars. a greater understanding of and higher capacity to manipulate the material world can serve a purpose, but it usually is sought for its own sake, as a value in itself, without reasonable justifications or an end in sight.

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Well then you should already know what I, and likely many others are going to say.

that's the question I asked in the op. is it better to make progress or conserve tradition

You have set up a false dichotomy. "Progress" is not necessarily good and "tradition" is not necessarily bad, it depends on the specifics of what you propose to progress towards or the tradition you propose to retain.

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Ok, what happens when people get fed up enough to vote a Fascist into power? Doesn't take much when you have incompetent leftists running the whole thing into the ground Will you still support the democratic process then? What if said Fascist is 100% pro electric car, I see no reason to not vote for such a man.

>"progressive"
progressives are regressive WAKE UP SHEEPLE

TRANSHUMANISM IS SUBHUMANISM

SATANISTS INVERT EVERYTHING WAKE THE FUCK UP SHEEPLE

I don't mean (((progress))) like your picture

When the first rake is the best rake.

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>progress
Understand what happened to the West

>abortion
>gender spectrum
>immigration
>feminism
>period blood brownies
>low IQ women and minorities
>pseudo-intellectual atheist dribble
>progress

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>that's the question I asked in the op. is it better to make progress or conserve tradition
What makes you think it can only be one or the other? Are you saying we're incapable of advancing and preserving tradition?

Well that's the point, evidently you are a brainlet who just hears a word like "progress" and automatically associates it with something good, so therefore progress is always good.

Progress is nothing more than a word to indicate the moving towards one thing and away from another. The thing you might be progressing towards may be either good or bad.

kek. I don't mean that
I'm talking about science and technology like innovation, AI, self driving cars and colonization

People should be allowed to maintain the traditions they want and progress in areas they want. No predetermined agendas

congratulations, you just tipped off to everyone here that you are a brainlet. The flag should have been enough honestly though.

>muh technology
given to you by god fearing men
>muh science
given to you by god fearing men
>rights
fuck your rights, you should be silenced before your cancer non-worldview spreads

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>Will you still support the democratic process then?
Once /ourguys/ take power, we do away completely with the silly Masonic notion of democracy.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enabling_Act_of_1933

not saying that. But I'm saying removing or replacing traditions
fair point. even going back can be progression

what are you trying to get at?

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I know, democracy is a wholly jewish lie, once you understand that, you take control through the normal process then proceed to smash it to bits, democracy is the most easily abused system of government their is, why should rich jews and communists be the ones running it.

always a fucking leaf
progression towards what exactly?

But every country that isn't a democracy/republic has failed or on the verge of failing like North Korea

TOWARDS TECHNOLOGY AND COLONIZATION AND SHIT YOU KNOW WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT LIKE ACCELERATIONISM

Progress? In what? Scientifical advancements? Technology? Knowledge? Or are you referring to societal norms? Allowing people to fall into degeneracy? Acceptance of your fetishes? Allowing you to indoctrinate children?

Which one is it?

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Technology science and knowledge not fucking queer kids

The Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea is a Democracy user. Granted you can only vote for Kim Jong Un it is still a Democracy. Every single Democracy in history has turned into them.

It's not fucking democracy if there's one person on the ballot

Oh, so you mean all of the things that tradition wouldn't get in the way of.

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Holy shit. Fedora incontrovertibly btfo

Lulž

how does it not? what if someone sees tradition as actually driving or not modifying genes

100% this, also IQ, income and how long your genetic lineage has been in the country should factor in your vote

how? you can still move the boulder up

What do you think is being "hindered"?
I think most of human life is hindered by backwards government lunacy - how about you?

you wouldn't like that. people with higher IQs would vote Liberal just the way it is

All great civilizations have eventually met their doom and many of these civilizations have died at their own hand. Do traditions just emerge from the ether, bereft of reason or are they the results of people encountering hardship and navigating difficulties? Societies undergo a sort of evolution mediated by hardship running up against the constraints of reality. The most prosperous societies tend to be better able to spread their ideas, traditions, and culture. Navigating problems forces you to develop efficient mindsets and modes of being, which can ultimately lead to societal ascendency.

Social progress is really just social entropy. It’s fueled by hedonistic desires and short term thinking. It’s not the result of some process; its the result of dictates made by the ruling elite and activist types. Social decline manifests itself as a lose of societal cohesion, the death of the family, the emergence of societal suicidal tendencies, complacency, infighting, and polarization. Technological progress masks the effects of social decline, but there will come a day when true hardship will return. When we inevitably encounter true hardship, you’ll begin to appreciate the utility of the social structures and traditions that led to our societal ascendency.

Then you don't understand the true purpose of Democracy, it's to give the illusion of choice at the behest of shadow brokers. It's a bit cheaper than going DPRK and such but they won't hesitate to install a Kim Jong UN if they think it's needed.

>traditions are a way they are because they work and helped people get through hard ships
holy shit. that's actually a good point

Republicans have a higher IQ than Democrats, even if you look at just whites. Libertarians have the highest IQ of all political groups tested thus far.

It sounds like you're talking about culture. Modification of genes is a pandora's box, and there are both intellectual and moral reasons to limit it. Self-driving cars have the potential to limit personal freedom, so it's more of a personal choice than a "tradition."

how's it the illusion of choice? for example if I vote Bernie in the states then you get socialized health care and if I vote anyone who's not Bernie I don't get universal health care. therefore it does make change it's not an illusion

progressing to trannies in whichever bathroom they choose just doesn't sound as cool as progressing to the stars.

Progress is not just a given thing. What are we “progressing” towards?

Define progress

I know that I've seen the studies but college or university education and Asians are all democrats

FPBP
"Progress" bears nothing. Tradition is all.

>Libertarians have the highest IQ of all political groups tested thus far.
I have a hard time believing this, because you have to be kinda dumb to think libertarianism would work for the retarded masses. If everyone was intelligent, this system would work, but it just isn't the case. It's like when the municipality has to finally put in an expensive hand-rail next to the beautiful pond because a retard fell in.

Fuck self driving vehicles i would hate living in a world you can no longer drive

Don't you need to progress to form new traditions? and ones that may conflict with older ones

What is progress?

No user, you won't get socialized health care, but a billion new citizens will and you will have to pay for it. Not unlike Comrade Dude Weed Lmao has done to you.

Faggotry, nigger loving, dog fucking, and drug abuse is not progress you pot head, leaf, dog fucker

Your vote is meaningless unless there is a tie and yours would decide the issue.
There has never been a tie.

neo reactionaries and libertarians actually have the highest IQs I believe

This. We can’t have progress without a foundation.

Fine, I can believe they're smart, but I think they're a little too idealistic.

stfu
my point was that there was still changed and you proved it. I don't support socialized health care it was an example

>stop destroying our traditions you white devil
>fuck your traditions make me shit white devil
When does civilization lose its pulse? I want to cut peoples heads off. Scream motherfucker. Lets see god.

Your brand of (((progress))) is not progress at all.

The point is that they will vote right wing, pragmatically

Get fucked anprim kiddos.

I fucking hate america. I wish thegovernment didnt exist. Id be busy genociding nonwhites instead of shitposting. Hurry the fuck up and die.

then make the 4th reich or overthrow the government and make an ancap society

Fuck politics. Fuck everything about civilization. Everyones getting their head cut off. I cant stand humans. Fuck this species.

If, by "progress", you mean you want to take my money and give it to some lazy asshole that didn't earn it, or you want to force me to pretend that a guy in a dress isn't just a guy in a dress. Or that thousands of forest niggers that march through a country that offers asylum don't take it, but wind up here looking for free shit in the guise of seeking asylum, and I don't buy their bullshit, that stuff are just an example of totalitarian fucks, not progress.

For the same reason you don't use your pillar's to make your building taller

They are our foundations

Sounds good. They're also good to hang out with.

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Theres days id piss on my own parents graves.

Fuck everyone

I think need to re-read the analogy. No one is saying there can be no progress. But true progress must pass through tradition. Any "progress" cut off from its source in tradition is not progress...it's peusdo intellectual puffery...TEDtalk tier masturbation

Set your local forest on fire. Lol.

Is it progress to give 16yos the vote? How about 14yos? 12? 8? 6? How about illegal immigrants? Rapists? Murderers? How about every person on Earth gets a vote in US elections?

How about everyone one earth gets a bullet? Sounds much better.

>(((progress)))

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makés sense

did you even read the thread?

All non-white groups vote majority dem.

Real civilizational progress is impossible without tradition to guide it.

A house without a foundation will collapse on itself.

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Be the change you want to see in the world.

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