How the fuck do I cope with never experimenting childhood/teenage love? It really fucking depresses me...

I didn't say actively, I said obsessively.

It's perfectly fine to go out and date girls who you find interesting. What's not fine is to obsess over finding your one true love and only seek out a pure virgin who you can conquer in order to satisfy your unsatisfying childhood.

Even if OP did take a girl's v-card, he'd not be satisfied, because he's obsessed. He'd just feel empty and blow a lot of time introspectively trying to figure out what he did wrong only to refocus his obsession on something else. Like "Maybe it's because it wasn't the girl's first kiss!" or "Maybe it's because she was already corrupted by western culture!" or "Maybe it's because I missed my chance, and now I just need to kill myself!"

Obsession in OP's case needs to be cured, not entertained.

But as long as you don't obsessively "pursue" it (because the pursuit guys in your position usually undertake is completely self-defeating), it'll come.
Lmaoing @ your life.

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I agree it’s dumb he’s so stuck on the Virgin thing. That’s going to be difficult to find.

I think it would be perfectly fine if he doesn’t want a former slut tho

>I think it would be perfectly fine if he doesn’t want a former slut tho

For people like him one boyfriend is one boyfriend too many.

>That’s going to be difficult to find.
You're missing the point. It doesn't matter what he's obsessing over. There are actually guys out there who obsess over getting with a porn star, thinking that it'll be the most amazing sex ever, and that having the most amazing sex ever is what's been missing in their lives.

People who obsess over some particular life experience as being "defining" or whatever often end up self-medicating with pot, opioids, and alcohol, and then accomplish fuck all.

There is a different between a girl who’s had 3 boyfriends and a girl who’s had 3 hook ups

Well yes, it’s never good to really obsess over anything.

Well technically the one with 3 hook ups has theoretically had LESS sex than the one with three boyfriends.

but she’s the slut. The one with the boyfriends isn’t

>3 hook ups
>slut

lol

Yes that makes her a slut. She was thirsty for dick and cum, so she spread her legs for random chads.

>Are you one of those guys who thinks that girls are only good for one-time sex only and after that it's technically gay to have sex with a girl because it'd be like drinking the cum from all the other dudes she's held hands with? Don't do that.

Ok, just do you know, I'm the OP. I'm honestly reading all of your posts and rationalizing. I don't believe in the degenerate meme from Jow Forums nor I'm a robot.

Just like how you're thirsty for poon?

I don’t do hook ups. I only have sex within relationships

look into MGTOW

Good man.

No.

Why?

Not him but pic related

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>I don't believe in the degenerate meme from Jow Forums nor I'm a robot.

are you sure

cause you're telling me that three sexual partners = dirty spread leg cumbucket slut whore bitch cunt

t h r e e

OP is more incel than mgtow. There's a very minuscule, nuanced difference... which is, honestly, what guys who are incel/mgtow focus on instead of shit that matters.

Are you honestly asking?

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That was me, not the op

Also, you intentionally took what I said out of context.

I said 3 HOOK UPS. This excludes relationships

What part of I'm OP and not don't you get?
>I'm an incel
Oh

>I'm an incel
>Oh
Yep. You are.

It has helped me out a lot

Why.

>It has helped me out a lot
Honestly, how?

>Man who decides for himself he does not want a relationship or family and wants to do his own thing.

Good man.

>Man who adds a label to identify with a group of neets who didn't make this decision from anywhere logical, but from a hated of women because of dumb shit they read on the internet

Little faggot.

Are you him ?

I stopped thinking about girls and eventually stopped caring about what other people thought and decided to focus on self improvement

However did you know?

One could argue that three relationships is worse than three hook ups.

Three hook ups is just fun sexual encounters. Three relationships is growing with another man and changing to please him and spending days and nights with him and a deep emotional commitment that one could argue of course loses value time and over the number of relationship partners.

So if you're the kind of guy who worries that much about a girl's ex partners, you should be worrying about her number of serious relationships not the number of times she had casual encounters.

>and decided to focus on self improvement

to what end? Why couldn't you just improve yourself while also dating a girl?

You didn't need a group of faggots to come to that realisation... In fact I'll bet they weren't even the first to tell you "do t care what others thinks, and focus on self improvement." They literally tell kids that from Age 6.

It had to be framed within hatred of women for you to get it? Man you didn't self improve at all.

>Good man
>you should be worrying about her number of serious relationships not the number of times she had casual encounters.
He's worried about casual encounters because that means she sees sex as a casual thing, instead of something of value that must be appreciated and not given so effortlesly

Then you didn't do MGTOW.
Also check them

Huge difference between fucking and making love. Very big difference.

too much time and effort

So you're supporting my opinion?

watching MGTOW videos and browsing the websites is what got me started

>something of value that must be appreciated and not given so effortlesly

explain to me why sex is something of value that etc etc

why are you comparing it to gold coins

No. I'm not.

Casual sex and sex in a relationship are not at all the same thing. And you can do both. Sex with a casual person just comes with a short high. Sex with a romantic partner comes with extreme feelings of intimacy.

And you don't ruin that feeling by having casual sex beforehand. No matter how many partners. It's an entirely different dimension.

If you've ever masturbated, especially while watching porn, you're in no position to be making claims about purity and the value of sex.

>why are you comparing it to gold coins
I didn't?
Also, I don't know in what kind of cultural enviroment you were raised, but sex is (or should be) an intimate act, not something you do like it's a fucking cigarrete.

It's not. Kids tell themselves that to justify being a virgin. Means they have something of value that no one else sees. And it gives them a reason to look down on others, particularly women.

See the mental backflips they do?

>Casual sex and sex in a relationship are not at all the same thing. And you can do both
>And you don't ruin that feeling by having casual sex beforehand. No matter how many partners.
Pfffhahahahaha

>What kind of cultural environment does this!?

What cultural environment are you from? This isn't a new cultural shift.

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Sounds like someone hasn't experienced what I'm talking about in the least and still thinks they have authority to judge if I'm right because of what baby Jesus said.

Who the fuck is talking about abstinence until marriage?

>I didn't?

Not literally no, of course not. but

>something of value that must be appreciated and not given so effortlesly

that perfectly describes gold coins, or whatever

You're overly glorifying and romanticizing sex.

>but sex is (or should be) an intimate act, not something you do like it's a fucking cigarrete.

Well I don't have sex while I'm waiting for a bus or when I'm on a break so THAT comparison is the one that doesn't work

I get your point though, you're saying that sex should be special.

I'm saying that you're the minority in believing that. Especially to that extent.

The implication like it's some kind of major cultural value with snarky comments like "what kind of culture did you grow up in", when a huge majority of people don't seem to agree at all.

>Who the fuck is talking about abstinence until marriage?

Not him but you may as well if you're going to commit to the whole "sex is magical and purity is real" meme then there's no point in being all casual about it.

>I'm saying that you're the minority in believing that.
Sadly.

What's sad is that you're romanticizing orgasms that much.

Would you feel disgusted if you found out that girls masturbate as well?

>Would you feel disgusted if you found out that girls masturbate as well?
Why would I do that?

Correct. It's very sad that your life is so terrible you need to hold onto thousands of years old outdated values that everyone's moved on from because it's the only way you can feel like you're doing something right...

Go volunteer at a soup kitchen. It'll make you a for real good person and actually accomplishes a thing.

Ok man, you win. We as human shouldn't value the experience of sex and we should literally fuck with anything that comes through with little to no emotional attachment.

Because masturbation is on the same level as hooking up

salty

My childhood love gave me herpes. I'm WAY over that shit.

Not OP but as an older khv I sometimes think about the whole "taking her virginity" thing. It's not some fetish but more about the fact that we're on an equal level. When there's an imbalance in experience both sides are going to have conflicting expectations.

u fail to realize that teenage love is better then what u describe because it can happen anywhere without materialism, any place can become magical.

fuck off and die roastie

Stop feeling sorry for yourself. Even holocaust survivors can lead normal lives.

I'm an atheist and I agree with him. Casual encounters absolutely destroy your ability to initiate and experience true intimacy because you've devalued it so severely. What good is ice cream if you eat it every single day? Even if you treat yourself to absolutely amazing ice cream one day as a special thing and get the really expensive stuff that's smooth as silk and exactly the right special snowflake flavor that sings to your palette, the fact you've had Blue Bell every day as it is is absolutely going to cheapen the entire experience. It's not special anymore regardless of how good it is.

Like fuck it is. You've LITERALLY got another naked human being inside you. You can't get more 'intimate' than that no matter how you try to spin it.

Pretty pathetic to post about this on Jow Forums macchi

This

Most of my childhood/teenage sexual experiences make me cringe and I wish I could forget it, you ain't no Casanova at that age.

Quite a few replies, gg.

>I've been in relationships and had sex with virgins and it was awful.
>virgins
As in multiple, the common thing was you and it was awful compared to all the other non-virgins you've been in relationships and had sex with. But such a significant number of people that you think your personal relationships constitute meaningful data.
How many are we talking about here?

Love in your 20s >>>>>>>>> love in your teens.

It just feels intense and new, but it sucks and it is awful. You have no clue what you're doing.

Dwelling about the past doesn't help anyone. Move on, become the hero of your own story and live your life now the way you want to.