Why does literally nobody talk about the fact that rock music was THE catalyst for every aspect of mainstream degeneracy and western (though mostly American) decline today? While contraceptives enabled the sexual revolution to happen, rock music was by far the largest method of promoting the unprecedented levels of hypergamy that ensued just as much as it was for drug use, while it and it's associated artists were also a large factor in the promotion of homosexuality, communism, cultural relativism, dismantling public decency laws and attitudes, people like pic related contributing to ending segregation through their success, and countless other regressions of which almost all modern takes on and mutations of these attitudes are derived from. It even was inspired directly by music made by niggers to promote these types of degeneracy within their own communities.
A large portion of unironic pro-white music, being mostly metal, and other "redpilled" genres and bands who compose and produce it is derivative of the music from this culture. Why does no one talk about the hypocrisy and loss of identity of whites using this medium to communicate their ideas?
>Why does literally nobody talk about what is there to talk about?
Leo Clark
also >14 most recently bumped threads are all canada posts >15th most recently bumped thread is a memeflag post REALLY MAKES YOU THINK
Thomas Miller
What did I say that's objectionable? I never hear anyone in the modern day have anything negative to say about it or its derivatives and just that it's "just the Jews". This is despite it being one of the largest issues of its time. Why has no one criticized Varg for using this degenerate medium?
Wyatt Campbell
the entire 1960s music phenom. was a psyop. a bunch of the musicians had family in the high military and cia ranks. all controlled by jews of course
Gabriel Scott
A
Benjamin Moore
Not an argument
Robert Collins
60s counter culture was most definitely CIA. Pretty based as far as psy ops go, atleast they were anti government unlike todays "liberal"s
Owen Gutierrez
Because Rock'n'Roll is dead. You want to know why it's pointless to talk about the degeneracy of Rock music? Nobody listens to it anymore.
Everyone got old, and young people got into different genres or created new genres. You know what contributed to the downfall of Bluegrass and Folk? Then-young people getting into Rock'n'Roll through Elvis. Same fate befell Jazz, Big Band and Swing music. Look at what contributed to the downfall of Big Band, Swing or Bluegrass music. The advent of television gave rise to Rock'n'Roll, which continued up until the mid-2000s when MTV started to decline. The desire for new ideas never died. The tastes changed.
Fast forward to today where people get the content online. The recording industry today is completely adrift and has no clue for it's future. A huge swatch of Grammy winners all got their start on YouTube; Justin Bieber himself is old news now, but he was the OG YT star.
This generation doesn't care for Rock music. If you notice, the vast majority of Rock fans skew older, especially for "Classic Rock" (ie: stuff produced in the '60s and '70s). Zoomers don't care for Rock at all, and the Millennials that do don't listen to Classic Rock. Frankly, Rock music has been thoroughly exhausted.
Since television is no longer a vector for music, new platforms emerge. The various music platforms across the internet have developed their own respective culture for artists to self-distributed and thus develop fanbases respond to stuff appealing to their respective palates. The face-tattooed Hip-Hop is completely foreign to me, but apparently, this generation can't get enough of Soundcloud Rap.
What's left for Rock? You either have fringe people like Varg or you have old men strumming the guitars they bought when Johnson or Nixon were President. It's just a different era, and people want different things.
And that's why Rock degeneracy is old news.
Brayden Myers
t. a fucking leaf
Isaac Lewis
>zoomers don’t care for rock at all
Do zoomer metalheads count?
Grayson Jenkins
No one talks about it because Rock music rules
If there is any type of music that led to anything bad, it's Country. That shit is awful and as a white skinned male, I'm ashamed of it. That, and Limp Bizkit
Liam Morgan
Metal is always something that will exist on the fringes. The hightime it got in the '80s and early '90s was a fluke. Metal will never have that same sort of mainstream appreciation again.
Besides, Metal will always be a ghetto for weirdos of all ages.
Brody Phillips
Because it wasn't. The optical weaponization of the music, combined with drugs and well coordinated social movements using it as fuel (feminism, anti war, counter culture, free love) was more detrimental. The music itself was often very good and well made. Sorry you can't play the guitar or write a song at the piano.
Evan Robinson
Would never admit this IRL but nu metal was underrated
Jackson Watson
Nu-Metal stood at the vertex of Hip-Hop, Alternative Rock/Grunge, Industrial Rock, Funk and Groove Metal, all popular on MTV from the late '80s up until '94.
While bands seldom differentiated in lyrics covering pain, angst, destruction and misanthropy, most of them sounded worlds different from one another. Bands like Korn, Limp Bizkit, Soulfly or Static-X reveled in bravado, impulsive and tribalistic aggression. Slipknot hearkened to bands like GWAR, Napalm Death and other shock rock/metal acts, while Korn took cues from Faith No More and Helmet. Deftones initially had a more Post-Hardcore meets Hip-Hop undertone to their Nu-Metal sound. Towards the twilight of the genre's life, Linkin Park was introspective in their lyrics and focused more on Electronic, Trip-Hop and even Ambient atmospheres with their sound.
Twas an extremely eclectic genre, but separating bands from their influences was their collective willingness to conform and return to machismo thanks to the Hip-Hop and Hardcore influences. Alternative bands were often very quirky, elegant and socially progressive, thus politically correct. Nu-Metal took the opposite approach with more bands conforming to a brutish working class style. With minor exception, Nu-Metal bands were comprised of tough kids looking to throw down.
These guys were either directly responsible for its genesis or influential-but-not-necessarily-Nu-Metal: Pantera, Helmet, Prong, 24-7 Spyz, Living Colour, Fishbone, Deftones, Mordred, RATM, Tool, Infectious Grooves, Mr. Bungle, Faith No More, '90s Sepultura, Alice in Chains, Body Count, White Zombie, L.A.P.D., Korn, Biohazard, Ministry, Nine Inch Nails, Marilyn Manson, Skinlab, Slipknot, Soulfly, Mushroomhead, One Minute Silence, Powerman 5000, P.O.D. and countless others.
Landon Gonzalez
There was only one time in all of history where musicians became insanely rich and that was in the 50's-90's. It's literally one of the oldest art forms, possibly the oldest, and has been around for pretty much all of human history and yet now I'm supposed to give a fuck if musicians do or do not get their shekels? Fuck off.
Whites understood that there was a difference between extreme popularity (white celebrities) and the common man. Nigger culture is just being lazy and refusing to admit that its unsustainable for everyone to try and live an extreme lifestyle.
Brayden Kelly
Yep, horrible
If you genuinely like Country music kys
Gavin Bennett
sage
Nathaniel Brooks
>some reddit tier words there cunt. >youtube.com/watch?v=9MWChzT8Kig Took me a while to appreciate Townes, but he's great. I raise you a Foley
the real question is how come white people have been so shit-tier at music innovation since the classical days? Most whites have jacked music from blacks. Rock? Invented by blacks and Elvis was deemed 'the king of rock' and he stole his moves, style, and music material off black artists. R&B? Blacks. Jazz? Blacks. Hip-hop? Blacks. Techno? Blacks, kek
Isaac Miller
Go listen to some radiohead cunt, country is based
Cooper Cook
You like guy clark?
Isaiah Gonzalez
Show me in traditional African music anything resembling Jazz, Ragtime or Blues: it does not exist. The rhythms of early Jazz can already be heard in Anglo-Saxon operettas of the 19th Century. It is true to say that there have been some magnificent and even revolutionary black performers of Jazz, though more rarely in Rock'n'Roll with the possible exception of Chuck Berry. What is undeniable is that whites have promoted all phases of its evolution.
Rock'n'Roll is rhythmically-augmented Scotch Irish folk. Rock'n'Roll was blacks doing an impression of hillbilly music rather than hillbillies doing an impression of "black music". This is why white rock bands that follow just sound really white, because it's already deeply white going back centuries in its folk heritage. Even the supposed "blues notes" and tonalities come straight out of Scotch Irish music.
Musicologists tend to ascribe some unique quality to African rhythm when it isn't there. The difference between African and Western music isn't in the rhythm, but in the focus on percussion. African music is tribal and meant to be accompanied by dance. Primitive music in all areas of the world started as highly percussive because that's what comes readily to us as human beings. Western music had centuries of development and went astray from those percussive roots long ago.
While Western music was exploring dissonance after entering the modern period, blacks in America started using Western theory and instruments to return to basic human impulse: the rhythm. Turning the focus towards percussion exploded in black music's popularity because Western art music became inaccessibly experimental and dissonant to general audiences. Jazz and Blues's percussive focus caught on hard because rhythm comes to us instinctively. Without the 'We Waz Rawkers and shieet', the myth is as solid as a bowel after eating too much Taco Bell.
Prove me wrong.
Ethan Hill
Actually rock n roll isn't dead as far as listeners goes. Lots of zoomers love rock but their listening habits are super fragmented.
I've deal with kids a lot and they all know tons of rock songs they have heard through Vidya. They just have no context of what they are listening to. So they aren't actively told by radio or tv what it is.
All music is super fragmented now. As far as musicians playing rock music now, I would totally agree with you. It's pretty dead.
I knew shit was going downhill once outlets like pitchdork and music blogs in general all started giving credence to pop singers like Beyonce as if they were actual artists. That's when I also started to notice millenials unironically loving literal shit pop music like Katy Perry. It's one thing to like cheesy music but still recognize it as cheese. But millennials literally think it's legitimate music.
Techno was definitely white at first, but then merged with rap later into edm.
William Harris
Kid first of all those genres were invented on the guitar and piano, white instruments. second of all go listen to 1800s tunes on the guitar and piano - which blacks copied. Also, what th other guy said. Lmao. blacks didn't invent shit once again, keep reading your jew cosmo mag and clinging to the hope your people are worth something.
Blake Anderson
Wasn’t hip-hop started when people like Afrika Bambaataa stole beats from Kraftwerk? Try not talking out of your ass joto.
Jaxon Sullivan
Nah, Techno and House music originated in the ghettos of Chicago and Detroit. They both achieved international acclaim once the Euros and Brits got into it, but Black DJs in those two cities can claim ownership of the genre.
Leo Scott
Not the same dude but your completely wrong, techno started in detriot in the 80s and it was created by three middle class black kids
Jace Jackson
These faggot larpers will deny it and continue to allow the ear jew to do his work. The good news is you can identify these people on sight. They are the ones wearing headphones in public, trying desperately to avoid any interaction with reality. And they have a million excuses for being so feeble minded, but that's what it boils down to - Weak people and their tells.
Anthony Long
> The rhythms of early Jazz can already be heard in Anglo-Saxon operettas of the 19th Century Any examples of this you can offer?
Jace Martin
It was an inevitable growing pain we ha to get out of the way. Without it, we wouldn’t be able to appreciate discipline,spirituality, ethics, etc. to the fullest.
