They kind of have a point

>Make an assertion that something is true
>Provide no evidence
>Someone says they don't believe you
>Demand that they prove a negative

I love when you post grammatically poor opinions that are also poor. Keep being a dumb fuck, it's funny

It is kind of a funny premise as wrong as it is
>be bean
>be oppressed in own country
>flee to other country
>be offered asylum
>refuse
>I want asylum in oppressors country ONLY

>USA bad
>me hate USA
>let me in

Its not an argument. Its just dumb thing said. Just like you can just say 'no' if someone wants to 'argument' child molesting is ok. No! Just no.

Fuck tear gas, use napalm.

>Jews made holocaust denial illegal in europe, so naturally Nazis should seek asylum in Israel

Hurr durr

The Reagan years also saw the construction of numerous joint Honduran-U.S. military bases and installations. Such moves greatly strengthened the militarization of Honduran society. In turn, political repression rose. There was a dramatic increase in the number of political assassinations, “disappearances” and illegal detentions.

The Reagan administration also played a big role in restructuring the Honduran economy. It did so by strongly pushing for internal economic reforms, with a focus on exporting manufactured goods. It also helped deregulate and destabilize the global coffee trade, upon which Honduras heavily depended. These changes made Honduras more amenable to the interests of global capital. They disrupted traditional forms of agriculture and undermined an already weak social safety net.

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How the fuck did " WE " create the problems them stupid motherfuckers are running from? I was under the impression muh socialism is what created this problem.

>The US caused brown people to have low IQ

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>The US created squatamalan gang violence.
Amazing mental gymnastics. You’ve just jumped the shark while preforming a barrel roll.

If we fucked up their countries, why would they expect to be welcomed here?

They kinda don't since asylum means there's a war going on, which there isn't, or they are a persecuted class, which they aren't. The fact that they can apply for asylum (this is still a far throw from getting it) anywhere is a freebie in and of itself.

>In turn, political repression rose.
Not really. They were shitholes before and the US bases provided jobs and a better economy for the surrounding area.
t. served at Palmerola and Soto Cano
Been there faggot and the standard of living for the people around the bases was much better than those elsewhere in the country. Neck yourself faggot.

there is only one thing south of the American border that matters to latin american countries and that is the free flowing drug trade that lines the pockets of all officails throughout all those shithole countries.

if you build your life off of the TV news then you are starting out ignorant as shit. you started literally forming your opinion off of what you were told instead of visually learning what you see in reality.

there is no more arguing , you see our military at the border right?

YOU LOST MOTHERFUCKERS

They have a legal obligation per asylum law to request it at the first available country, which was Mexico. If they want to come to the USA they have no asylum claim because of Mexico existing.

So the the logic here is.

>immigration is good
>just look at these poor innocent victims
>but they can't immigrate to Mexico
>because they need to punish America
>by immigrating there

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Why would you flee to the country that fucked you up? You'd think that you would flee in the opposite direction.

>i.e. Hondurans have no agency

So they gambled on economics with a foreign government and it fizzled out. Also, what do they mean by "militarized"?

These “people” are not coming because of violence, they are coming because (((capitalists))) want to employ them rather than white people or even niggers who are already here.

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The majority of Americans had absolutely no say in our ruling class deciding to fuck around in those Central American hellholes decades ago. Punishing your average man on the street with footing the bill for their free stuff and having to compete against them for low paying employment isn't going to work out very well in the long run for people like this and TPTB.

If these niggers are already upset about the conditions the US has created, it is the US's utmost responsibility to kill them all.

They are coming for gibs, rape white women and kill as many people as they can while driving drunk.

i think the idea is that they recognise america is a stronger, safer state, that has become that through exploitation of countries including the one they leaving.
makes sense doesn't it?

>Someone got their new talking points.
Is that your tweet there or is that one of the Soros bot accounts that shits out the talking points? Are you one of the ones that gets them emailed to him?

This. It’s fucking exhausting.

So the left is all about fucking over union workers now, huh? Figures.

Tacit admition that mass immigration is and always was a burden, we just deserve it because WHITE MALE

The Left likes to blames all Americans for the crimes of child-raping CIA spooks and ZOG schemers. Just like how the Left blames all white people for slavery when we white people weren't even doing the enslaving and we're the impetus to ending slavery worldwide. The point to the enemy of all and tell that that's who you are

Usa caused all my problems
Usa bad
Usa very VERY bad

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In reality they've all seen scarface a million times and think theyre gonna go bigtime.

Indeed.....

If these “migrants” want to live in a white majority country, then wouldn’t it be a moral imperative to engage in colonial imperialism, along with violent repression of resistance, so that the most people can have access to cool shit and tranquil communities?

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So are they refugees seeking aslyum or invaders set on revenge?

Or just third world pieces of shit

No they are coming not to be in in, they are coming to TAKE it. And Jews are giving it to them.

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We aren't allowed to fix their countries because its raycis. Instead we must let them fix our country.

Of course they are. At least giving these people full citizenship as soon as they walked onto American soil would incentivize the IRS to make fucking sure they were being paid the legal minimum wage. It would also mean that, without their competitive advantage, when they're sat down in front of an employer, it would be responsible to appear as integrated as possible, meaning learning the language and customs of the country.
This grey area between citizen and non citizen that "undocumented migrant" folks benefits nobody except globalist corporations and the politicians they pay.

America is safer than Mexico because there are slightly less Mexicans here

Because if they come here we'll kill them

Because anyone who our military and spooks are fucking over should absolutely be banned from entry into the country as an issue of national security.

The Invade/Invite paradigm is completely incoherent and dysfunctional. It makes no actual sense in terms of generating anything positive or fostering progress but it is a policy instituted by people who think live thieves and squatters rather than the people who build and refine civilizations because that is exactly what they are.

This model of ravaging a nation and carrying off a segment of an enemies society to be held in captivity in a foreign land is nothing but bronze age middle eastern imperialism. It's probably instinctual and has no basis in anything but the fact that Jewishkopf dictates predictable patterns of behavior. It's a tool of destabilizing foreign populations by upjumped bandit kings. Every other people who have ever accomplished anything without the need for destabilizing their neighbors and rampant theft have done the exact opposite.

There's nothing to seek asylum from and the video from yesterday clearly shows a bunch of rock throwing 18-34 douchebeans machismo'ing for the cameras

Excellent post.

>Defeatist thread title
>Zero argument in thread body

Obvious a shill who doesn't care about the nation state.

sage

Asylum seekers are required to stop in the first country they reach were there isn't a war going on. There isn't one in Honduras, Guatemala and Mexico, they're just full of savages. Even if they were eligible from asylum and were from Honduras, they'd have to stop in Guatemala. Faggot

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When we do not see our nation as a community and an extension of the family, but rather a giant shopping mall open to whoever wants to come here, there is no moral reason to exclude these individuals. We have to adopt a community mindset and drop egalitarian pretenses in order to survive.

Imagine for a second:
>Your home get's destroyed and looted by somebody from your neighboorhood
>You decide to pack up whatever is left and move in with that somebody
Would you expect a warm welcome?

>they fleeing
Nigger

>durr we gotta accept dem cause reagan 35 years ago
nahhh

Everything is America's fault #5346855

>the US created the conditions
>the conditions are bad
>go to the US because of revenge???

That's a tough hill to climb

If a stranger burned down your house you take him to court to reimburse you, not cause of revenge you dolt

If a stranger burned down your house, you take HIM to court to reimburse you, not everyone in the entire city you dolt.

Asylum means that they are away from the dangerous conditions - it is in no way meant as "reparation" or similar.
Even if the US really had created those condition in the first place, why on earth would someone affected by them seek refuge in such a horrible place?

>implying hondurans are even capable of building houses

Your analogy implies that US policy was illegitimate or illegal. On what basis do you say that?

The left are a bunch of corporate cock suckers, they 100% shill for companies maximizing their profits off the back of 3rd world labor. Look how easily Nike got the lefties to get down on their knees for a corporate load.

The only reason the left are supporting them is because they're (((((fleeing))))) from a country where the party in lead is "nationalist". Notice how they ignore it when someone flees from socialism and blame it on "just happens to be poor"

>asks for evidence
>provided overwhelmingly irrefutable evidence
>denies the evidence
Why are you people like this? I want to think you're all trolling with these mental gymnastics, but I'm sure you're all being very serious right now.

Every time I lurk this predominantly white user base website as a black person, I'm led to believe white people having higher IQs than black people is a myth, or at least isn't a conclusive measure of intelligence.

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Do they not have courts in the shitholes these people come from? lololol

Exactly lol. They paint the u.s as evil but all these shitskins really want to live here.

>The Reagan years also saw the construction of numerous joint Honduran-U.S. military bases and installations. Such moves greatly strengthened the militarization of Honduran society. In turn, political repression rose.
We have joint bases with lots of countries that didn't become shitholes, so I don't believe you can create a causal relationship that makes us responsible here.
>It did so by strongly pushing for internal economic reforms, with a focus on exporting manufactured goods
Their choice. They could have stuck with a largely self-contained economy. It would mean slower industrialization and a lower, but more sustainable standard of living, but they chose to chase the dragon of global capitalism.
>It also helped deregulate and destabilize the global coffee trade, upon which Honduras heavily depended.
We're not going to let a country stranglehold a trade good just because it's their "traditional export". Not our problem.

Fuck off, solve your own problems burger

What argument?

>but they chose to chase the dragon of global capitalism.

Fucking this, if you sleep with dogs dont be surprised when you get fleas.

you can't apply for asylum in a country of choice. Asylum is only granted in the next bordering country,

>Such moves greatly strengthened the militarization of Honduran society.
>You gave us money and then we made poor choices with it!!!
hahahaha

>>provided overwhelmingly irrefutable evidence
No you didn't. You're providing a link to an article written by an activist

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>No you didn't. You're providing a link to an article written by an activist
He might as well have quoted God as far as faggy progressives are concerned.

That makes no sense.

BUT PROFESSA GOLDSTEIN SAYD IT WAS DA WYPYPO

THEIR COUNTRY'S ARE SHITHOLES BECAUSE THEY ARE FILLED FULL OF RETARDED SHITSKIN COMMUNISTS.

Funny you say that

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Why seek asylum in the country that supposedly caused your country's problems?

>us is guilty because they trained the hunduran military and that military decided to turn on its people
Apex kek
I guess we never shouldve helped then

Maybe we should storm the border of Israel.

I remember when Democrats caricaturized all the Evangenlical Christians' positions as "think of the children!"
I have no sympathy for this argument coming from them.

Go back a year and this could very well be a German user's post word for word.

Germany lost two world wars and they still managed to have a strong economy today. Japan got nuked twice by burgers and you dont see any japanese migrants moving because muh evil usa fucker them in the past.

AMERICA WILL NOT BECOME AMEXICO

>I guess we never should have helped

There is no good outcome when you help non whites. Let them die if its gods will.

Fuck the Germans.

Its not asylum if you are not seeking it in the first safe country, they cant be asylum seekers by definition
Also, no one cares who created the conditions

oy vey I'm a jew in poland in 1942. lets seek asylum in Germany

>America is evil!
>So these people should live in America

>Central American shitholes are socialist
>America isn't
>therefore America is to blame

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>You're providing a link to an article written by an activist
The analytical methodology of the facts are valid and were reported accordingly.

Why does your mind exist in an intellectual vacuum of fallacious reasoning when deemed suitable and convenient?

Go read the comments, they are replying to the God Twitter like it's actually God. Its fucking bizarre.

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Why are leftists so dramatically exaggerating things?

>The analytical methodology of the facts are valid and were reported accordingly.
It is an opinion based one sided article using cherry picked (((facts))).

>overwhelmingly irrefutable evidence
I bet you didnt even read the article yourself. You’d understand how wrong the author is.