Nationalism

It also pisses me off that communism is not as hated as naziism. I want to get info from both sides (the left already puts themselves all over the internet enough) but do lean right, and don’t consider myself a nazi. I’d just like to gather some info

Lol that reminds me I saw one of these in a ww2 museum

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both sides? fascism and communism are on the same side. They are both totalitarian ideologies. This is where the government has total power over the people.

Yes, but one side is far left and one side is far right. However I do see what you’re saying

Also how about going back to World War II where the Nazis literally raped the communists. It was wrong, but I’d rather be on the Nazis side than the communists side

What's that suppose to be an easy bake oven ?

>amerimutt understanding of politics

if you want to cook six to twelve Jews at a time

Nazism does not exist in any serious capacity today. Nazism was about corporatism, genociding slavshits, Aryan occultism and ancient Himalayan tribesmen. No serious political entity exposes this bullshit. No serious entity supports Nazism.

The people who wave swastikas are just being edgy

Funny cause that brand picard didn't even exist until 1957 were the Nazi's time travellers too! Based

I asked my friend (who is a Nazi) why he hates Jews and he said “because they run the world”. So how many of you still believe the Nazi propaganda used in ww2?

it was just a joke? calm your shit

Bro the holocaust is nothing to joke about don't you know gorillions of kikes lost their lives! Also yes Jew's run the world I shouldn't even have to explain how if you have an oz of grey matter in that empty skull of yours

Just hating Jews =/= Nazism

That is simple antisemitism

Most white countries in the world are threatened by mass immigration and anti-tradition. In the United States specifically, white people are going to become a minority in a few decades if immigration is allowed to continue as it is. Despite what liberals want to believe about nature, different racial groups vote and act for their racial interests - even self-identified black republicans voted for Obama because he is one of them, nonwhites have dozens if not hundreds of advocacy groups working on their behalf, etc. This situation is against the interests of the white majority, because we lose power as they gain power. Nationalists reject the idea that white power is wrong and that nonwhite power is right, and rightfully so. We want homelands that are explicitly ours where we can be free of the cultural confusion, crime, and alienation caused by racial diversity, which is a weakness, not a strength.

National socialism is desirable economically because it eliminates economic parasitism and provides for the welfare of all who are willing to work without eliminating markets, competition, or private property like communism.
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It's desirable culturally because it cultivates fortitude, identity, physical fitness, a spiritual view, etc.

all of Jow Forums hates jews and nowhere near all of us are nazis.

Not a nazi, but a nationalist to some degree. I'll take a crack at it assuming nor a troll.

Liberal society views things through a narrow lens. Much of what they portray to be normal is actually at odds with reality.

To provide a few examples...
independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/rotherham-grooming-gangs-1500-victims-investigation-police-national-crime-agency-pakistani-white-a8219971.html?amp

independent.co.uk/voices/rotherham-grooming-gang-sexual-abuse-muslim-islamist-racism-white-girls-religious-extremism-a8261831.html?amp

Sexual abuse and grooming underaged girls by pakistanis and Muslims is an incredibly underreported crime in the UK. Rotherham is one of the most extreme cases, but you can find 12 or so major cities which ALL have has over a thousand minors abused. Worse, it happens to large degree in the open and in an ongoing way. Threats are made against girls families if they don't cooperate, and rape can occur for a girl for months or even years.

Police have turned a blind eye to the crimes for at least a decade so as not to appear racist. And government officials are unable or unwilling to help or assist.

The mainstream would portray alt right types as a problem, but we at least 10,000 girls groomed in rape for years. Compare that to what, some groups with tiki torches and one loon who rammed a crowd with a car? This is a big issue that political correctness WILL NOT TOUCH. Feminists don't talk about it or haven't heard about it.

In fact, prominent women in the women's March have advocated for Sharia law, without acknowledging its influence in justifying these rape gangs. I'm not saying all Muslims are bad. But there's a great deal of its culture which is at odds with our society. Recognizing we should only take in Muslims who agree that rape is bad is a controversial opinion, apparently.

I will post more in another post...

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I'm not a Nazi, and I'll admit from the start that I think pretty poorly of them. However, if you genuinely want to find something interesting I believe you may be approaching this from the wrong direction. Looking for someone to express their reasons for supporting an ideology you have no regard for is only going to get you to further entrench yourself in your own dogma. Protip: You are and I are each as biased and ignorant in our own ways as every last Nazi. It's a product of being fallible. Truth is not self-revealing to us, so we draw imaginary lines throughout our experiences cordoning off "truth" here and there and use it as justifications for our belief systems. My favorite parable is the blind men and an elephant. You should go read it if you have never heard of it. You should reread it if you haven't read it today. This parable is a perfect analogy of all economic and social systems we have ever created and will ever create.

If you want to write a masturbatory op-ed that justifies why Nazis are idiots and your own value system is superior, keep barking up this tree. If you would like to grow as a person, start asking yourself what justifications you can see even if you can't relate to them. And even more interestingly, which justifications do you abhor that, in the denial of that said claim, cause conflict with your own beliefs. Revealing your own bias through self-reflection against the backdrop of antagonistic ideologies is a pretty mind-blowing experience. Makes me realize just how shitty I am every time.

As far as why nationalism and Nazism are on the rise again, I'd take a stab in the dark and claim it is likely due to the "Far Left" appropriating liberalism to demonize everyone that isn't perceived as a victim. Classical liberalism has been a slow-moving beast heading towards tolerance of all peoples. It basically acknowledges that there isn't any justification that holds one way of life above another.

Correct. Fascism is not always Naziism. However a core doctrine of Naziism is anti-semitism. Which is rational.

Observe how this Huffington Post article shows how Jews control the majority of media, but that’s not something to be upset about: m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_753227

90+% of media is owned by ethnically Jewish people. tapnewswire.com/2015/10/six-jewish-companies-control-96-of-the-worlds-media/

We hate the Jews because they are ruining Western demographics and replacing the white population with foreigners. Meanwhile they are systematically eroding our finances through usury, out of control international business and globalist agendas.

Meanwhile they have claimed extermination and genocide throughout the 19th and 20th century to garner sympathy to their imiginary plight. They have claimed 6 million deaths way before the Nazis were around, and sometimes claim many more millions than the “official” number.

See here to look at how many times throughout history nations have expelled the Jew:
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At Jow Forums we believe we should 1488 before the white race is lost to history forever.

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This is Germany annexing Austria. Look at the faces, and listen to the crowd.

Okay. So you’re partly right. But think:
>Be Germany
>Your economy is shit, similar to the Great Depression in the USA
>A bad painter comes up and says he will solve all your problems
>You wait a little while, and then elect him
>Lots of Nazi support
>At least 33% of population actively supports nationalism
>Fucks the first amendment so he can cover his tracks
>Uses the Jews as scapegoats, telling people they are the reason their eceonomy is shit
>Gets his supporters to burn synagogues and other shit
>Rapes Austria and Poland (as well as a few other nations) after using them as scapegoats
>Harder to find tricky hiding Jews, starts using the communists as scapegoats
>Communism is actually fucking retarded. I myself would’ve probably decided to go kill a few, and then realize
>Oh shit Russia is too stronk
>Still decided to rape more commies and invades Russia
>Lots of Nazis are dead
>Hitler kills himself because he was going to die anyway
>Economy is slightly more stable
>Change flag and cry because you fell out of power (again)
>Let’s see how America is doing after successfully raping Japan
>60 years later edgy retards carve shitty swastikas on toilet seats
>People get scared for no good reason
>Post-2016 and there are legitimate nationalists/Nazis
>The Left is actually scary, so there are now far-right terrorists to try and counter the far-left terrorists (ANTIFA)
>They don’t really do much
>Some go mental and try to annihilate anyone who leans slightly left
>Now we’re here looking at fucking greentext
I know I may be wrong about some things, this is my understanding, so correct me if I’m wrong

I suggest you look up Pew research statistics on Muslim countries. Some countries around HALF the population thinks Muslims who convert or become atheist should be executed. It may seem hateful, but its well documented that significant portions of Muslim countries hold regressive beliefs. Their views are FAR worse than even most nazis. We're talking kill women for being raped, or execute gays. It's gruesome stuff.

Shifting gears, let's talk about Feminism. Sadly I don't have a link handy, but you should look up two studies which were conducted on college campuses.

The first, was less a study and more a project. Some undergrad chemists developed a nail polish that could detect the presence of the date rape drug if dipped into a drink. You're probably thinking how excellent that is a stopping rapes. Well, feminists saw it differently. The students were harassed for "victim blaming" and had to shut down the project. Despite actually producing results that many women would WANT to buy, it never saw the light of day.

The second, was a policy on some college of teaching both men and women to recognize danger signs of a bad situation where an assault or rape was likely to occur. Men and women were encouraged to leave the situation and help their friends and loved ones to leave it as well. Essentially it taught risk assessment. This was a short seminar for incoming college freshman. In the first year it was implemented, sexual assault and rapes dropped by around 50%. Feminists again shut it down because victim blaming.

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>nationalists/nazis
fuck you

1) It’s called making light of a dark shituation
2) Six million Jews died; that’s about 0.25% of the world population during WWII, so don’t treat it like a pandemic
3) Why do you think they run the world

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I know but I wanted to see if anyone still listens to or believes Nazi propaganda

But it gets worse. Look up Title IX. This was an Obama era policy inspired by feminists, with their endorsement. Men who were accused of sexual misconduct would be investigated and expelled if found to have done so. This was done on college campuses. Where it veers off course is that these investigations were done by faculty with NO training of legal practices.

Accused were not informed of charges and were not allowed to submit exculpatory evidence. Men who had a relationship or hookup with a girl were not allowed to submit texts between them. In some cases girls have submitted accusations because a guy ditched them after hooking up for a while. Text trails showed she was interested and not at all offended, hurt, or turned off until months later when the man lost interest.

Even worse, men would often be forced to drop classes they shared with their accuser DURING the investigation. In short they were punished before verdict. Punished merely by being accused. The standard of evidence required was abysmally low. If the chance of it being true approached 50%(normal courts use 80%) it was deemed he was guilty. This with the limits placed on the accused where they couldn't present evidence, couldn't even give testimony outside of questions asked to them, and couldn't request a lawyer or counsel.

But worse still, accusers were NOT required to go to police where standards were higher and investigation would occur. A woman who knew she had no case could go to the college tribunal instead and nearly guarantee an expulsion on hearsay.

The final nail? These false accusations disproportionately affect black men. This is true in our legal system as well, but in these amateur kangaroo courts it is completely out of control. For whatever reason white women love making false accusations towards black men.

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Okay so you’re right for the most part but someone will rape you if you don’t specify the difference between legal and illegal immigrants. Look I don’t care if immigrants are documented, they came here legally. If you come over here illegally and just say fuck it, then I’m going to do whatever I can to get you the fuck out of here, even if it means me personally shooting you in the head

Now Western ideology has changed from tolerance to acceptance. Unfortunately, to accept all other lifestyles universally is to become intolerant of the intolerant; Neo-liberalism contradicts itself. While I may disagree with intolerant ideologies (I think it's an un-Christlike mindset) as long as there is no physical or political violence directed towards the recipient then it's as "valid" as any other ideology. At this point, it is simply opinion. Only God can judge, and only if God both exists and chooses to judge.

This societal attack on everyone not perceived as a victim has added fuel to the "us vs them" fire. People are redrawing imagined lines in the sand around ethnicity and culture. White Christians, Arabic Muslims, and Jews, in particular, are susceptible to this because they have a sub-culture associated with their ethnicity that allows them to be easily identified as "the other." As well as their unwillingness to divest themselves of their beliefs as primary value systems. Muslims, Christians, and Jews are typically X religion first and nation second (if they have a national identity at all). Depending on where they are in the world (as a subcultural majority or minority) they are then either the persecutor or the persecuted.

Nazis and, to a lesser extent, nationalists tend to point this out and say "Hey, everybody else is doing it. Fuck you, I'm not going to be the loser in this war."

tl;dr: Everyone is doing it and claiming to be the victim. Until we stop using the government as a system of oppression (and every law is an attempt to oppress someone) against anything short of intentional personal harm (to life, liberty, or property) we will be in this boat. It'll just be a question of who's rocking the boat in which direction. War may be the continuation of state policy by other means, but state policy is also the continuation of war by other means.

That’s nazi talk boy

I know that there is a difference between anti-semitism and Naziism. Not all anti-semitists are Nazis, but then again not all Jews run the world.

You are fucking retarded, this is literally what jews want you to think.

Do you really think an entire government (dozens of political and military geniuses, hundreds of brilliant influencers and thousands of intelligent politicians) can form around the delusions of one man? Do you really think Jews have been expelled by the top politicians over a hundred times without ANY reason? In all 100+ cases?

In time you'll hopefully see how naive those beliefs are.

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Yeah we do, because Adolf was right about damn near everything. Read his book, it still holds up in every way.

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>3) Why do you think they run the world
if you only hire your own kind you sooner or later have total power.
but yeah dumb mutt, don't think about it too much and follow your politicians that proudly say how much of a honor it is to defend (aka die) for Israel

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Saying that I agree with you would be an understatement. If I was a parent, and I didn’t know you and you even fucking lay a hand on my child, I’ll shoot you. But it brings about the question, what do you define as “nationalism”? What do you define as “Naziism”?

hey kiddo, stop posting, You logic and education level are abysmal LMAO

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That is fucking powerful. Thank you.

So feminists don't care about men, don't care about women other than themselves, and certainly don't care about black people. If we judge them by their actions rather than their words they are shown to be destructive. Whether due to ignorance or malice, the mainstream ideology again proves utterly destructive to those they allegedly care about most.

Honestly I'm getting tired of writing this. My point of this ramble is to show that many of the mainstream leftist organizations and ideologies are corrupt to the core, and give no fucks about anyone.

Some more points you can research yourself:

Single motherhood is the best predictor of male criminality and lack of life success. Feminist policies encouraged the black community towards single mothers and the destruction of intact families.

Excessive immigration drives down wages, which hits people at the bottom hardest. Once again the black community.

Divorce courts and custody battles are rigged and sexist.

When police are called in spousal abuse cases, police are required BY LAW to treat the male as the aggressor. Even if a woman straight up stabbed the man or beat him to a concussion.

Sweden is currently the most feminist country in the world. It's also the rape capital of the world, due to it's permissive immigration policy.

Birth control causes long term brain changes in women, with severe health consequences. I'm not against women having access to birth control, but the mainstream silence on health issues is apalling. Women should at least know what they're dealing with. Hormonal birth control actually changes who women find attractive, contributing to marriage failure when they decide to have kids and no longer love their husband. It causes severe weight gain and depression, along with cancer and heart problems. This is only a small sample.

The sheer volume and scope of the left's deception is staggering. The data is there. Start reading.

Thanks for posting. Good reads. Unfortunately you’re pissing in the wind here talking to this child.
But what’s funny is, he’ll probably end up being full 1488 within the next year or two just because he came here for answers to his curiosity. It’s the same old story for all of us.

It’s the only rational way to respond to bolsheviks.

>>A bad painter comes up and says he will solve all your problems
cant find the picture with Hitlers drawings but you have been lied to.

>>Fucks the first amendment so he can cover his tracks
>first amendment.
Dude you are confusing countries right now

>>Rapes Austria and Poland (as well as a few other nations) after using them as scapegoats
Austria joined germany after 99.74% of all voters voted for joining germany

>>Still decided to rape more commies and invades Russia
this was the best option if you wanted to get shot by a firing squat for degenerate behavior
(and btw Americans raped Italian women and cut off their breast etc)

>>Hitler kills himself because he was going to die anyway
probably true but still no evidence. Doesn't matter anyways.. Why does every normalfag jerk off to the idea that hitler killed himself.

>>The Left is actually scary, so there are now far-right terrorists to try and counter the far-left terrorists (ANTIFA)
they are dumb and getting payed by jews like George Soros

>>They don’t really do much
I don't know a single "Right wing terror" organization besides larping faggots

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“Meanwhile they have claimed extermination and genocide throughout the 19th and 20th century to garner sympathy to their imaginary plight. They have claimed 6 million deaths way before the Nazis were around, and sometimes claim many more millions than the “official” number.”
Source?
Credibility?

I have to agree with you there. This is a map of Islamic terrorist attacks in Europe. Poland has zero because they banned any Muslims from entering the country and have strict background checks.

Nationalism is simply believing in your own national interests first, and recognizing areas where your culture is better than others. Ideally this should be tempered with knowledge of your own weaknesses as well.

We should rightfully recognize our civil rights and classical liberalism are morally superior to regressive Islamic groups. And regressive Christian groups. The ideology is irrelevant honestly. We don't assume that all cultures and ideas are equally valid when they're not. Western individuality and legal systems ARE better than the rest of the world.

The left says take in immigrants. They never ask why so many want to come here.

Why this feeds into nationalism is clear. We should watch after our own interests first. But bear with me. In this case our nationalism is actually for the greater good. We absolutely SHOULD help other countries. But taking in fractions of a percent of their population doesn't help them. It just shits up our place. We would be better served to have strict immigration policy and from there use the efficiency and stability gained to channel resources towards improving the quality of life in other countries.

Oddly, non-militarist and non-colonist nationalism with a healthy dose of philanthropy is actually BETTER for the world as a whole than globalism.

In fact, immigration can actually damage BOTH countries if it isn't rate-limited. If too many come over to a new country, it can't properly integrate all of them. In Sweden, second generation immigrants are actually MORE prone to crime than first generation due to lack of available jobs poor assimilation. Also the male to female ratio of the youngest generation is now 1.4:1. That's going to be a shitshow later.

On the other side, almost all of the best and brightest in a shitty country will leave by any means available. This means that the leaders and thinkers, those most likely to be able to fix the cultural and economic problems of a donor country, left.

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I'll wrap up. When a plane experiences decompression, you're supposed to put your own air mask on first, then help others. When saving lives in a dangerous situation, first responders are taught not to add to casualties. Protect yourself then help others. You save more lives that way.

The same is true of countries. If we injure or sicken ourselves, we cannot help others. We can't even help ourselves. We have to secure our borders and our own interests if we want to help the most people. Both in our countries and abroad.

Well if this doesn’t make you suicidal I don’t know what will

One last thing. The jews don't run the world, but leftist groups and corrupt factions use identity politics as a shield. Feminists portray criticism of them as criticism of women, when less than 20% of women are feminists. Israel portrays criticism of it as criticism of jews, when it's only corrupt politicians and media benefitting from it. Recognizing that people in positions of power will use any means necessary to stay in power is not antisemitic. Wealthy jews in media and politics use the holocaust as a shield to criticism, even though most weren't even alive during that atrocity. It's the same as catholics claiming they're discriminated against or whatnot.

The sad thing? Jewish groups(and Israel) strongly push for more immigration throughout the west. But those immigrants who are predominantly Muslim are insanely antisemitic. The poor and middle class jews becoming victimized by increasing hate crimes because of a few rich jews not giving a fuck. Again, compare to the catholic church selling out their followers who were molested to save face.

For whatever reason, a lot of jews are in positions of power, but they play the antisemitism card while fucking things up for the rest of us, including other jews. Again, all people in power do this. But recognizing the falsehood of the antisemitism play is necessary to see valid criticism. Sadly, the corrupt wrap themselves up into an oppressed ideology, using the lower classes of that group as martyrs. Jews, Catholics, Feminists. They're all the same. But some groups are a lot harder to criticize.

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Look at the news clippings I showed. I’ve already confirmed them. If you want to look yourself, go buy a NY Times subscription online, it’s like $5 and you can view the archives. Those articles are there. Of course there are more sources than just that.

Elaborate/clarify then

Okay. I’ll look more into it.

These are the things they don’t teach you in school