The argument for Lolicon seems pretty simple to me: No victim, no crime. Living breathing human beings need protection, constructs of the mind do not. If I imagine in my brain right now a fictional character named Sarha, does she exist? Does she have legal rights? I now imagine myself shooting Sarha, am I a murderer now? As I type this, I am physically drawing a picture of Sarah and a picture of myself shooting her. Has the transmisison of my thoughts to paper made me a murderer? Is there a crime if I imagine and depict myself raping Sarah? Does the concept of "rape" result in a more emotional response, such that it must be a crime for me to think these thoughts? I do not believe anyone can reasonably say as much, thus I do not believe it is just or moral to send men with guns to kidnap or kill a man for sitting in his basement looking at lines of ink on paper or pixels on his monitor.
The most common response is "Loli is a gateway drug! Lolicons will eventually become rapists as a result of consuming loli media!" to which I ask this: How do we punish people for crimes they *might* commit? How do we objectively determine that an individual is a latent criminal? Do we measure their Crime Coefficient(犯罪係数) like in Psycho-Pass? Do we take the existence of genitals on a male as proof of him being a latent rapist like SJWs on tumblr? If someone talks about firearm rights, is he not more likely to own and carry a firearm, and since he carries a firearm is he not more likely to commit a crime with a firearm than someone who does not carry a firearm? Should we not ban guns to prevent these future crimes? What about people who consume porn with simulated rape or incest, are they guilty of crimes? Are the actors in these adult films criminals? This sounds like prosecution of thought crimes to me, and such a practice can only lead to abuse, even if the original intention is thought of as just.
I think it's simply more about protecting the things that shouldn't be talked about. People use art to show things they've seen or done, and once it's in art form it becomes easier to talk about since it's a conversation starter. What's first the chicken or the egg? Or do they both already exist and pretending they don't is a waste of time?
Jacob Bailey
I don't understand your post. English please.
Lucas Morgan
Banning drawing eggs will not stop people from eating omelettes.
Josiah Bell
Mainstream cartoons have episodes on pedophilia for example, you can give hints to kids through cartoons but if you have some hentai for example, then you kind of force conversations about how the situations can occur. They are just games, but it's better if the games are never discussed. People that push for censorship usually have an agenda. Or at least whoever convinced them to does.
Cooper Perez
in all seriousness, how many cultures developed the omelette independently? after reading shit like 1984 and doing some thought experiments: i wonder if everything relating to eggs and the recipes they are used in were to be 'memory holed', and anyone who previously knew of them were to die out, would the remaining, ignorant people figure out on their own how to make an omelette? i wouldn't be surprised if it were a dozen generations or more before someone came up with an analogue for the omelette, and it would probably still never be the same as the recipes that came before.
The whole loli cartoon issue is an accidental redpill. They have admitted that porn is dangerous, and that getting off to certain things will cause your mind to go into an ever decreasing spiral.
Adrian Hall
Is this a secondary effect of multiculturalism or the effect of censorship to prevent people from becoming aware of the problem?
Austin Ross
just kys
Wyatt Torres
>arguing for loli porn while postin sacchan could you fucking not you disgusting animal you deserve to be on a crucifix for this
Josiah Powell
The thing is that loli is the ideal age of a wife. So you can grow together and do proper pair bonding. The Jew wants teen girls to feel empty and unloved through their teenage years so that they are unable to experience really love.
Masturbating to the form of a child is not a perversion, it is an abomination.
I unironically like girl's farting and belching. That's a perversion. I DON'T like thinking about children doing those things. Or "lolis" or whatever the fuck you freaks want to call your unholy desire for premature flesh.
You should all be gassed, and not by the braps of my thotties.
>there's a difference between prepubescent girls and women
There is but it doesn't favor the side you think it does. Date some post-wall 16 year old thot if you want, but everyone who has spent time with teenaged girls know that "sweet 16" is when they cease to be human.
Isaiah Bailey
like he said it's still a perversion but not an abomination like normalising child adult relations is. you fucks complain about weimar germany creating child porn cartoons but when it's loli it suddenly becomes fine. I hope all of you burn.
>How does a moral, triple digit IQ, first world nation, Well its not like America has to worry about it.
Benjamin Smith
Reminder that a work can have value even if you think it depicts something yucky and if you disagree with this notion you're no better than a book-burner.
It encourages and tolerates a certain perversion. If you like little girls, you should seek help and/or neck yourself. Jow Forums isn't about being edgy and against the mainstream at all costs, on some things they are right.
Daniel Reed
>on some things they are right. Like on lolicon being perfectly fine, which only redditards and facebook boomers from chanology 2.0 disagree with.
Jayden Brown
lolis are gay lol
Isaiah Edwards
anime = lolis = seems legit rl = little girls = shuld be executed by firing squad
Christian Young
Lolis are very much a cute. Though it does mess with your image of women. >sees irl whamen >barfs >what is that thing? Oh... whoops
Liam Fisher
People that cannot separate fiction from reality are mentally ill all on their own.
Robert Bennett
There is a clear separation, and I was exaggerating. But there is some semblance of a letdown.
Leo Walker
Pedophiles should be eradicated. Only pedophiles like Lolicon. Some as that.
Jacob Hall
Holy shit grown men talking about chink babies. Neck yourselves you degenerates
Carter Smith
>Only pedophiles like Lolicon. Correlation =! Causation Also see
Samuel Ross
>implying fiction cannot influence reality >what is propaganda >what is marketing >what is mass media
Jaxon Mitchell
Do you support banning violent video games? Do you support banning simulated rape and incest porn? How about violent films, can we ban those too?
Dominic Nguyen
these are incomparable to child porn. try again.
Bentley Barnes
Don't even bother with threads like this, 2/3 of Jow Forums is completely retarded when it comes to this subject and they'll just call you a degenerate
Evan Ward
>child porn Why are you moving the goal post? We are talking about ink on paper, not child porn.
I find the entire debacle very controversial on the other hand, fucking or wanting to fuck children is disgusting and wrong on the other hand, I assume it would not feel wrong at all, but I wont try because I'd rather have 16yo s which are perfectly legal
also drawing is not real person and prosecuting people for drawings is very jewish and against freedom
James Wright
>on the other hand, fucking or wanting to fuck children is disgusting and wrong Absolutely agree. That is why I suggest all pedos fap to loli instead.
Cameron Evans
I think it's cute. No need to get so buttmad about it. It's just ink on paper.
Lolicon is sexualized little girls, that's literally the definition of it. People who masturbate to sexualized little girls are pedophiles. >b-but they're not real! Then why are you specifically masturbating to lolis and not to milf porn or images if trees? It's because only Loli resembles little girls, you sick fuck.
Bentley Williams
>Lolicon is sexualized little girls, depictions of little girls* >People who masturbate to sexualized depictions of* little girls are pedophiles. I agree.
Pedophiles exist. Do you want them in their basement watching loli or raping little girls?
Xavier Ross
this thisity this this thiserino
David Rodriguez
>Do you want them in their basement watching loli or raping little girls if anything the loli will only fuel them to get the real thing because they will eventually become desensitized to the "depictions of little girls" as you say.
Easton Cruz
10/10 thread. FBI approves.
Ryder Stewart
>How do we punish people for crimes they *might* commit? How do we objectively determine that an individual is a latent criminal? Do we measure their Crime Coefficient(犯罪係数) like in Psycho-Pass? Do we take the existence of genitals on a male as proof of him being a latent rapist like SJWs on tumblr? If someone talks about firearm rights, is he not more likely to own and carry a firearm, and since he carries a firearm is he not more likely to commit a crime with a firearm than someone who does not carry a firearm? Should we not ban guns to prevent these future crimes? What about people who consume porn with simulated rape or incest, are they guilty of crimes? Are the actors in these adult films criminals? This sounds like prosecution of thought crimes to me, and such a practice can only lead to abuse, even if the original intention is thought of as just.
Kayden Richardson
Deceptions of little girls are called little girls, not lolis. "Loli" is derived from Lolita, a novel about a pedophile grooming a little girl. It's inherently sexual. I don't want pedophiles in their basement watching loli porn, and I don't want pedophiles raping little girls. I want them dead.
Right now, i sadly am. But i'm sure that eventually, the promised day arrives and right wing death squads knock at your door.
Henry White
With philosophers as eloquent and reasonable as yourself recruiting, I am sure the RWDS will be here any day now.
Connor Hughes
I'm not even a pedophile. Very interesting that you have no arguments and only threaten violence against those you disagree with.
Xavier Nguyen
>16 posts vehemently defending pedophilia >I-I'm not a pedo pick one you sick fuck.
Luke Long
Pedophiles are unjustly prosecuted by ignorant normalfags like you. I am on the side of justice, you are childless LARPers in mom's basement. Your homicidal fantasies are more dangerous than Pedophiles.
As a matter of fact, I believe your sociopathic ravings constitute a thought crime. Are you ready to go to prison for thinking thoughts?
Jacob Lewis
Wow, people literally talking about comitting murder here! This thread is full of murderers! Imagining and writing about it is MURDER.
You all should get a death sentence before you can act on this.
basically you are saying you think women are gross.
Brandon Davis
>things that depict a crime you can do are not applicable to things that depict a crime you can do fucking shills,
Alexander Lewis
according to jewpedia a pedo is someone who has already committed the crime.
Nicholas Hill
>The word pedophilia comes from the Greek παῖς, παιδός (paîs, paidós), meaning "child", and φιλία (philía), "friendly love" or "friendship".[20] Pedophilia is used for individuals with a primary or exclusive sexual interest in prepubescent children aged 13 or younger.[4][5]
Jonathan Scott
ah, well it used to. i was kind of dumbfounded at the time. figures jewpedia would want to cover their tracks once they blame all the satanic child rape in the government on lgbt.
Camden Bennett
>φιλία (philía), "friendly love" No sir, philia can be any kind of love, even erotic. The truth is, it should probably be dropped in favor of an -eros based cognate. Also you should be gassed.
Alexander Russell
Cry more.
Justin Johnson
The west has some sort of mental deficiency when it comes to discerning fiction from reality, 2d from 3d.
Just look at this woman's face, she literally cannot comprehend the point that they are literally just lines on a piece of paper that don't actually exist.
You might be interested to know, a large percentage of people (both genders) who sexually victimize children are not sexually attracted to children. Many times the people are just violent and young people are vulnerable. Many times they are re-living their own abuse as a child. Many times it's more of a power trip than a gratification.
Don't get me wrong. There are a lot of people with perverse sexual thoughts who violate children. There are a lot of people with perverse sexual thoughts who do not violate children. A pedo is a person with perverse thought. A victimizer is a person who goes through with it.
Nicholas Peterson
I've often heard the line "rape is about power, not sex"
Carson Taylor
Don’t try to justify your disgusting desires. People like you need to be thrown in jail, or preferably shot in the head.
Nathan Morris
I am not a Pedophile, but the Pedophile and the lolicon consumer doesn't need justification, their actions are neutral.
Carter Watson
Your sociopathic desires for murder on the other hand are entirely unjustified and evil.
Caleb Powell
I mean forget 2d children. What about all the alternate universe children? Did you know there are an infinite amount of parallel universes and at any given time there are an infinite amount of little girls in each of those universes getting horribly abused right now? They could even be being abused by an infinite amount of versions of a celebrity, your family doctor, your neighbor, or EVEN YOU. Please let's think about those poor infinite amounts of parallel universe children!
The funny thing is abused parallel universe children actually have a higher chance of existing than lines of ink on a paper or pixels on a screen.
Parker Gonzalez
If you jerk off to picture of little girls, you’re a fucking pedophile. And no, it doesn’t matter if the girls are “real” or not
Alexander Scott
Hey, it ain’t gonna be me putting the bullet in your head. It’s going to be the fathers of one of the girls you molest
Julian Reed
>If you jerk off to picture of little girls, you’re a fucking pedophile Ok, for the sake of argument I will don the mantle of Pedophile. I am a man that masturbates to depictions of little girls, I am a pedophile.
What now? Am I to be killed? For what crime? Who have I victimized? Will you execute me? Can you stand before God and say killing me was just?
Nathan Gutierrez
>And no, it doesn’t matter if the girls are “real” or not You have true mental deficiencies.
Levi Bailey
part of the colonization gene. impose our religion on the world. religions are imaginary, kill people who don't follow christianity exactly right in our countries = more people who cant tell reality apart. this is also why leftism is so rampant. christianity is fucked. damage already done. gene editing when?
Dylan Howard
Pedophila is a very serious crime, not to mention a mental illness that endangers young children everywhere. When I say you should be put out of your misery, it’s to protect them.
Sebastian Jenkins
>Pedophila is a very serious crime How is thoughts in the brain a crime? Who have I victimized?
Luke Mitchell
Keep trying to justify your sickness, see where you end up
Chase Carter
>What now? Am I to be killed? yes >For what crime? being a pedophile Who have I victimized? society by being a degenerate >Will you execute me? yes >Can you stand before God and say killing me was just? very yes
Eli Wright
Seek help.
Isaac Wright
Why can't you answer the question? Is your IQ double digits? Pedophilia is A STATE OF MIND and masturbation to lines of ink on paper or pixels on a monitor is A NEUTRAL ACTION
Camden Richardson
You want to fuck kids, you will if given half the chance or maybe you won't, maybe you'll just engage in some "soft molestation". Either way you see children as sexual objects. You're basically a fucking degenerate. What am i missing here?
Tyler Carter
>You want to fuck kids I deny this assertion. Your post is based on false premises. >What am i missing here? A brain. clearly.
Dominic Wright
I haven't read the thread but is OP Jewish?
Caleb Perry
You really think you're clever or some shit but i really don't give a fuck, you can't fool me. Are you Jewish?