Sup my brothas! I know some blacks lurk here. I have always been a black nationalist but in recent years have taken the example of Marcus Garvey (my biggest hero) and worked with other rational nationalists to further our own cause.
I run a Garveyist discussion group in my city and I have full faith the highest of our breed can dream of the monumental and achieve it if we rule and breed the best of us.
If you have not read The Philosophy and Opinions of Marcus Garvey then you are not black and probably are some WEB du Bois faggot.
White folks are welcome but only constructive conversations on how we can mutually achieve our ends.
>inb4 we wuz kangz I don't by into fake history because my own personhood is radically historical and in order to be me and engage with my people I need to know my people's real past, not a mythology
>Why you in UK I will not forever live here. I have decided to stay here as long as it serves my race. My dream is for all Africans to return to Africa and build a continental Imperium that no outside power will touch, be it China or the USA. Then, and only then, can the black man deal with the yellow man and the white man.
When I say > Then, and only then, can the black man deal with the yellow man and the white man. I mean to say on equal terms rather than being the slave race
Carter Miller
Nobody interested in Marcus Garvey here?
Michael Jenkins
As a white fascist i endorse this thread
Henry Gonzalez
Bump for you, kind Garveyist
Juan Young
I hope you prosper user
Camden Cruz
But you have to take in count the fact that the geography and hydric resources in Africa are shit lmao gl building an Empire bruv
Adrian Powell
Good luck & godspeed blanon
Jordan Cook
Thank you! I have a white friend who I met when I was at University who was a fascist. He told me he read Garvey and replaced black people "white people" and it inspired him. I've done the same with white fascists and felt the same. Fascism and racial identitarianism becomes different because of our histories and our ways of being but the general feeling it brings about in us to do good for our people is common.
Better a slave to geography than an other in a foreign land. I would always pick my own land before any other. The Empire is a dream that we should work towards and it can only be accomplished if the blacks of the west return because an Empire of the sort Garvey wanted is based on the knowledge Africans learned when they left Africa.
Kayden Watson
Bump. Nothing wrong with ethnonationalism. Best of luck uplifting your people
Ayden Gutierrez
Repatriation is a cool goal. Are other blacks interested that you know personally?
William Martin
KARA BOGA! My black brothers, I am of Turkish decent. Our great black leader Erdogan is already in the process of recreating the blackest dynasty since the days of Osman
Jackson Russell
i unironically support blacks being the best black folk they can be t. supports whites being the best white volk they can be we all need to do better, OP
>My dream is for all Africans to return to Africa and build a continental Imperium that no outside power will touch Agreed, But the south part should be the Empire. The Europeans can recolonize and keep the North of Africa.
Cooper Garcia
Thanks my friend!
"So many of us find excuses to get out of the Negro race, because we are led to believe that the race is unworthy, and that it has not accomplished anything. Cowards that we are! It is we who are unworthy, because we are not contributing to the uplift and up-building of this noble race. How dare anyone tell us that Africa cannot be redeemed, when we have 400,000,000 men and women with warm blood coursing through their veins. The power that holds Africa is not divine. The power that holds Africa is human, and it is recognized that whatsoever man has done, man can do."
Africans are undoubtedly at a disadvantage but I think racial history is a struggle to become and the chapter in African history of being spread to foreign lands can allow us to greatly better ourselves. But WEB Du Bois and racial assimilationists won out over guys like Garvey which has been a massive detriment. In America, Garvey started the Universal Negro Improvement Association which was out funded by the NAACP.
Michael Long
MENA needs to be glassed once we figure out how to stabilize energy with them gone.
Henry Rogers
African here, but probably not the kind you were thinking of. What do you think of Rhodies, OP? We had the africans' best interests at heart, certainly more so than ZANU or the ANC does now.
Both ZANU and ANC are part of Communist broad front revolutions. They don't have blacks interests at heart, but manipulate the broadly nationalistic masses to empower Communist functionaries.
Jaxson Carter
you will end up like the rest of the southern hemi anglosphere utterly chinked
Ayden Gonzalez
Yeah I know a bunch of Garveyists who want self repatriation.
All racialists have a bit of tension with other races but at the end of the day I can never be angry at a racialist because I know the struggle of wanting so much greatness for your people and watching your people not listen or focus on themselves.
I agree, the South and the East is more stable. If we work with white racialists successfully I would leave one Boer republic to the Boers, a mixed Boer/Coloured Republic around the Cape, a state for the Khoisan and then we'll have the rest.
There's a lot who are not fit for improving our race. It's a big problem but I'm not sure how to deal with it besides perhaps having a province set up for those who don't hold themselves to proper standards.
>We had the africans' best interests at heart, certainly more so than ZANU or the ANC does now. True. 24 years later, what have the ANC delivered? a man made disaster that ZANU had tried.
I want to work with white nationalists to achieve my own ends and if such an agreement was reached I'd be okay giving Boers one or two republics.
As far as Rhodies I mostly like Rhodesians since I know a Black Zimbabwean who fought for the Rhodesians and I have a friend in Harare who says it's shit there. Rhodesians were always a minority and we'd have been better off cordoning off some areas for blacks and some for whites.
I think white nationalists can find value in this if they replace black with white. It's the same sentiment but for a different people.
Zachary Morgan
Yep. Oh we already are, I read an article a few weeks ago saying that there were more chinks in Zimbabwe than there were whites. Communists aren't people. I'm not a white nationalist user, far from it. I'm also only a quarter afrikaner, so I'm not sure I'd be welcome in one of their republics unless their immigration policy was more broad, which, in this political climate, is probably impossible.
pic unrelated but it's my family's farm in manicaland back in the good days
It's these kinds of white people WEB du bois told the black community to work with and it has been detrimental. Garvey set up the Universal Negro Improvement Association to combat our having to work with white liberals.
A white nationalist/white racialist will be: 1) Honest 2) Have the same sentiments for his own race I have for mine
A white liberal has nothing to offer but racial assimilation which is not my goal and was not the goal of black movements before assimilationists took control of our intellectuals.
>less competent. that's a funny way of describing them as stupid and patronizing.
Daniel Roberts
I read about the Amish in Belize. Belize is mostly African but the Amish stick to themselves and farm and produce. The Amish in Belize are so secluded they still speak German. I don't see why it wouldn't be beneficial to have Rhodesian farmers who could train African farmers to farm elsewhere. If Africa was united then there would be ample room to farm and the few 10,000s of Rhodesians would not take up much space
Leo Wood
It works very well to have white farmers in Africa. Botswana and Zambia both do it with little controversy. In Zimbabwe, South Africa, and recently Namibia it's become an issue. Farmers own more land than non-farmers so that's easy to inflame issues over.
Jackson Lewis
>All racialists have a bit of tension with other races Yes, but it doesn't have to be a bad thing, it can inspire respect as opposed to the phoniness a lot of people have about race
Adrian Reyes
I’ve never heard of this guy, but I’m for sure gonna read it once I get the chance
Thank you. While I’m here, if you could, I’d also like to know how you feel about pic related
>A white nationalist/white racialist will be: >1) Honest >2) Have the same sentiments for his own race I have for mine
I'm not a white nationalist but I see no problem with race based nationalism. I see no reason why we can't all live separately and have peaceful mutual relationships.
Jacob Scott
I agree that farmers who have roots in Zimbabwe should be allowed to come back. In Namibia there's a small German population that's about to get removed. Namibia is one of the more steady states in Africa and if the German population is removed it will set back the African population immensely.
I agree - and the tensions stem from history but I enjoy that. Life is mostly melancholy because life is a struggle. We should apply that to the life of a race, that it is not all joy but long periods of melancholy so that we may live long enough as a people to see great heights. The tension for me is not hatred but a sense of competition and a sense of respect for history.
>In the March-April 1934 edition of his Black Man journal Garvey proclaimed Adolf Hitler a 'wonderful personality' and 'trailblazer' who (in Jamaican fashion) demanded 'respect'.
Hitler was a German and a European doing what was necessary for Germans and Europeans to reach new heights. I respect the historical geniuses and movers of any race, the men who set in motion the waves we live in. I respect him and hope to have an equivalent figure as him for my own race someday.
Colton Gray
I guess not only white nationalists but non-Africans willing to engage with Africans in a non-exploitative manner. Some whites don't care about Africans one way or another, others care in relation to their own race's relations to blacks. These two types of whites are typically honest when dealing with Africans. The white liberals are dishonest because even those who are not outright exploiting blacks use us as a puppet for political acceptance.
Zachary Howard
>The white liberals are dishonest because even those who are not outright exploiting blacks use us as a puppet for political acceptance. It's not just white liberals. To be honest, I think white libs mostly go with the narrative set by jewish and black liberals (I'm not even sure liberal is the right term). I hate to generalize but it seems white libs, the plebs like us, are terrified of being labeled racist, so much so that they've given up thinking for themselves.
Nathan Gutierrez
I think that's a really good point. Right wing parties in the West can win black votes, but not by pandering like left wing parties do.
Juan Hughes
Africans need improvement. WEB Du Bois criticizes Booker T (who was by no means perfect) but he criticized him from a liberal perspective. Marcus Garvey was the right way for blacks to go but he didn't get any help. American elites opted for racial assimilation rather than black and whites separating peacefully. Garvey created the Black Star Line which repatriated Africans in the Western hemisphere back to Africa. Imagine what could have happened of Garvey was funded. Instead, the liberals, Jews, and communists (who hate Garvey as a reactionary compared to Du Bois who praised Stalin) funded black liberals who moved the black consciousness to an awful place. African racialism is in no position to produce beauty right now because we're so far down this path. We need real African leaders and reactionaries who will stand against liberalism and destroy the legacy of Du Bois and his ilk.
Luis Butler
I think an independent black right wing school of thought would help a lot toward that. Far too much DR3 even from very intelligent blacks is essentially just a liberal critique of liberalism. Mangope had a quasi-right wing government in his bantustan at during Apartheid. I don't know too much about his philosophy though.
Chase Rodriguez
I completely agree - black intellectuals are almost always liberals and they use liberal arguments to criticize liberal institutions for not being liberal enough.
