Be the most powerful military in History

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The Vietnamese had the advantage. They could use Cambodia and Laos tactically, and the Vietnamese knew the ley of the land. Also the M16 rifles used by the Americans were garbage.

We didn't lose, we chose not to win.

>b-b-but we almost won
Thats not how it works annon,your countrys politicians sent tens of thousands of muritards to their death for capitalist imperialism to win over communism imperialism in vietnam(and also make some money for the neo-cons on the side)and the army failed.
All those lifes and money got absolutly wasted for a cause that was not noble or righteous in the first place.You invaded a foreign people genpcided their civilians and still got BTFO,typical for mongrel subhumans who cant do imperialism right.

> M16
> garbage
Niggas just didnt use Stopping Power. That shit is a 3 burst kill at any distance.

>we own the sugar market
How did we lose?

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Democrats

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Communist infested jewish media lied to american college kids that their team was losing the war and that they would be sent directly to their deaths so they chimped out. With the loss of popular support in a country that relied on a draft system, the american government had no choice but to abandon the war even though it was objectively winning. The rice farmers didn't win shit.

It's more that they jammed unusually frequently. There are stories of entire platoons of soldiers almost dying on hills because their guns all jammed one by one. By comparison the AKs that the Vietnamese were using were practically imortal.

>gorilla
>unironically saying 'gorilla' warfare

might be another reason for the loss

Soo funny coming from a Romanian street shitter

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Check out Giap's commentary on the conflict. By '72, the NVA was on its last legs, China had gotten closer to the U.S. and increasingly hostile towards the North Vietnamese government since they wouldn't kowtow and was pulling out. Detente meant the Soviets were putting less into Vietnam and moving more into Africa. The Easter Offensive was basically their Battle of the Bulge and the main reason they came to the table for the Paris Accords. There's a reason they didn't commit another offensive until 3 fucking years later. The amazing thing is it started as a probing attack and when the realized the U.S. didn't do anything about it they fully committed.

The stories you're referring to are just that, stories. Visit Jow Forums once in a while before you spout garbage

The common consensus was generally due to America not being fully committed to the war. President Lyndon Johnson was too busy trying to put a show of defeating the commies in Vietnam, he did not have a plan or a target to achieve. The public was against the war too, which made deploying more troops/raising taxes very hard. Couple that with the South Vietnamese military not fully dedicated to fighting their bretheren in the North, it was an uphill battle from the start. In the end, after 20 years and achieving little, they packed their bags and claimed they won fighting the commies. 2 years later, Socialist Republic of Vietnam was in place and America wont have political relationships with Vietnam until 15 years later.

>no arguments whatsoever
>no original insult
Typical for a subhuman mongrel afterall everything in your country is cpyed or stolen from europe even the language you speak...kek.

I was paraphrasing a first hand account from a vet who talked about his experience in Vietnam from a recent documentary. I suppose he could be lying.

Sorry dude but you lost. Street shitters can't even try to argue or have a point.

We should've just melted the whole area with a few nukes.

Jews stabbed USA in the back.

In 'Nam it was supporting bad people without American morals.

Jews knew this would end up screwing the USA.

lose?

no we def won

It's entirely possible. You always see docs where vets recount being spat upon but there's never actually been a recorded case of it.

The commie sympathizing Democrats, infiltrated by the KGB, sabotaged our military to prevent them from being able to fight effectively.

Why are you speaking it?

Vietnam's asymmetrical warfare and the US's limited warfare.

>The common consensus was generally due to America not being fully committed to the war
Also this, but there was a reason for it. There were really heavy Soviet troop movements in Eastern Europe between '68 and '74. There's a reason EUCOM got 60% of U.S. forces and more draftees went there than Vietnam and very little of the new equipment designed for Vietnam actually went there.

>we actually killed them by the truckload
>we occupied every town
What do you mean by "we", Peasant?

Don't you have a paki to suck off Sweden?

gypsies are literally from India moron, they're not the same thing as ethnic Romanians. stop embarrassing yourself

Military history major here,

America did not "lose" the Vietnam War, as they were not defeated in any military sense, nor did any concession of territory or resources occur (beyond what was spent on the war)

53 000 dead compared to 630 000. The NVA admitted that if the us did not disengage when they did, they would have been defeated in battle within a few months. America did not have the public or political support the government felt it needed to see the war to its conclusion.

There was little strategic value in conquering Vietnam, and the war's primary objective of containing the spread of communism in South Asia was a failure by 69/

A military history major would know that the U.S. did lose in a military sense. Do you even Clausewitz?

was worse for the vietnamese

they had starvation levels of poverty until they opened up to the US, now everything is booming there and they cant love americans enough

War and Occupation are two very different things
>in order to occupy you must be willing to be ruthless
Jewish media won't even allow us to defend our own borders without calling us Nazi's - imagine is we stated flattening civilian towns.

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Jungle chinks know how to hide
Gorilla warfare tactics are superior to "let's just burn all the shit"

Shut up you little white knight bitch. I wasn't talking to you.

>Be wealthiest nation in history of humanity
>Still have poverty
How?

No entry to the north.
/thread

>workers paradise
>still have worker strikes
How?

The libtard college and media pundents lost the war not our boys fighting. We kicked there ass even at the tent offensive.

Americans being BTFO'd in Vietnam
is being dwarfed by America's pending doom at their Southern border.

There's all the difference between
losing to gorilla warfare in a foreign nation, and being overrun by unarmed flag-waving Central Americans.

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the other thing to consider is that vietnamese wanted to be our bros when they fought for independence but we sided with their french overlords

the average vietnamese only supposed the war because it was for independence. being communist was a thing they had to do to get soviet support

they still just refer to it as a war for independence like we do with the british instead of calling it a tax war

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It was a strategic impossibility only possible in hindsight.

They didn't even have a plan once they beat the Viet Cong insurgents in the south. NVA had to pick up the slack and invade.

the same reason the British military failed to stop the american revolution, guerrilla warfare is overpowered as hell.
how do you win a war where any civilian could be your enemy where you spend millions a day and the opposition is doing it for a tiny percentage of that?
you cant.

>5% of military stationed there
>forced to abided Geneva and was causing troops to get killed or completely lose it and kill civs.
>Had to get permission to destroy buildings that were firing on you because it might offend hippies. No bullshit heard vets say that all that time. Most notorious was the greatest tank battles episode where a tank commander needed permission to fire on a rpg in a building.
>the us broke the Geneva agreement and bombed them into the ground and they literally went back to the peace tables and the US abided by it again.
>The Vietnamese didn't abide by the genva convention.
Fuck off Shlomberg Ahmedstein. Before someone reports you to the local migrant center. Eurabian sweds talking shit when they sat out for both world wars and shit themselves. Fuck outta here nigger.

>has no argument
>tries to insult instead
>has low IQ so can't even come up with good insult
>doesn't even know what white knight means
why do you even bother to go on living at this point?

>the same reason the British military failed to stop the american revolution, guerrilla warfare is overpowered as hell.
That's not why the British failed to stop the revolution. The British failed to stop the revolution because their coffers couldn't compete with a combined French, Spanish and Dutch onslaught even though the British were beating them. Hell, the war almost didn't end in '83 because the Spanish wanted more concessions from Britain.

We weren’t allowed to go nuclear, if it was a total war the Us could’ve turned nam to radioactive glass

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Keep laughing nip, your country is only one step away from being enriched.

>white knight

>/ˈˌ(h)wīt ˈnīt/

>noun

>a person or thing that comes to someone's aid.

Go suck off a gypsy faggot

Noone is saying the Viets had it easy. On the contrary, they actually were starving and living in holes. But that still does not change the fact that about 500,00 american deaths, as compared to North Vietnam total death count of about 700,000. A 1:1.4 trade of american to N.Vietnam life is unnaceptable if you compare what their military spending was.
But if killing of 500,000 american lives JUST to make the Viets tummy rumbling is worth it, by all means do it again.

>muh gorrilas
nice to see your own media's indoctrination still working. Pic related is one of many Soviet tech they supplied the NVA

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the french and spanish did not even join the war till Washington had gotten several big victorys in a row and showed that they could bloody the nose of the most powerful military in the world.

at that point, france and spain saw a chance to stick it to britain and make money so they did.

bruh, I think your number are way off unless you include South Vietnamese.

The French (and to a lesser extent Prussians) were supporting the U.S. since the conflict started which is why Saratoga and Boston were possible in the first fucking place.

riceman too stronk

thats true but i would still argue that the bulk of the NV effectiveness came from guerrilla tactics.

pick related.

the NV won beccasue they wanted it more, american soldiers where there to collect a paycheck, the NV soldiers had tatoos that said "born in the north, to die in the south" they where fanatics.

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Vietnam is an American history redpill.
Monroe Doctrine
Truman Doctrine
Domino Theory
Dien Bien Phu
Korean war
Started with Eisenhower
Vietnam fucked up China and Japan

That's correct. After the war, they turned on Khmer Rouge, and told China to fuck off. They are now commie in name only

"War is continuation of policy by other means"
The policy was a failure, thus they chose to discontinue. They did not lose.

ok, now recommend me the best military animes.

This

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I had always thought the gooks used chink SKSs. That one is russian

>We didn't lose
>We chose not to continue and let them win
Yeah, okay

I don't disagree on morale because the US brass thought they can win just by holding the South. There just wasn't enough political capital to invade the North.

I came to my own aid because you were lying about my people, but of course you're too stupid to figure that out

WEW, NICE THREAD KIKE

Oh right my bad. That is the total manpower deployed, not deaths.

Urbanization breads bitches, decreases cognitive and "will to power".

Urban bitch eats Doritos all day, farmer bitch survives all day.

Will to power.

They used whatever they could get their hands on. Mostly Chinese equipment though. Soviet AA was prominent. In fact, the first American casualty in Vietnam was caused by a Soviet operated SAM site in the North.

The USA lost a war we shouldn't have fought. I'm not denying that.

I will say that the fact we stayed in NATO after Vietnam was bullshit.

We actually watched Robotech for an assignment, incidentally

Ya, quitting is not losing

Hey, if you want to prove yourselves our betters, feel free to try it yourself, see how far you get.

>quitting is not losing
A forfeiture is a loss, you fucking moron.

They were hiding in dirt holes

Maybe you shouldn't lie about Americans then you steet shitting gypsy fuck