Hiya advice

Just do it, try it for a couple of months and see how it goes.
Objectevely being obese is worst that working out in losing the excess weight, no matter how you see it.

Ex hamplanet. Now about 140 lbs and 5'7". Was almost twice as heavy.

If you care just about superficial stuff - I'm dating a guy who makes literally millions of dollars, is 6'3", in shape and is at least a 8/10 face wise.
If you care about meaningful stuff - I managed to get out of my depression with therapy and am actually happy. My relationship with him is awesome, we're getting married soon and can't wait to have children.

Working out is good for your health but not the primary driver for weight loss.
Eating a 400 calorie slice of cake takes 5 minutes, but burning 400 extra calories by running takes an hour.
For overweight people, especially severely overweight people, changing their diet and eating habits is the most important thing.

>Is there a point in losing weight if one is a hamplanet?
Yes. Health for one.
>It will take so much time
If you focus on doing it you'll surprise yourself. But it's got to become almost a full-time job. Cardio for 15-30 mins/day, eating better (i.e., cooking your own meals rather than eating out and cutting out obviously bad shit like pop), bulking muscle (which decreases your metabolic efficiency, causing you to burn more calories just by existing), and a variety of other things.
Think of it this way: If you'd started one year ago, where would you be today? You might not be at your goal, but you'd feel a fuckton better.
>I will never be as hot as an average girl
(1) That's not why you lose weight. (2) The average girl is a lot less hot than you think. (3) There will always be someone hotter.
>flabby skin and stretch marks
Loose skin is fixable. Muscle tone will take up a lot of slack, and if it's extreme you can get a tummy tuck. All women get stretch marks, and they're also fixable. Most will become invisible with time. If they're really bad they're fixable.
>a part of me says that it is pointless
That part is wrong.
>and I won't find love or happiness anyway.
You can find love and happiness as you are now if you believe in yourself and look for it. Losing weight won't fix your self esteem, but it will enable you to be more social and build a track record of successful life experiences that *will* improve your self-esteem. Sitting in a darkened room and wallowing in self-pity will only make it worse.

Huh. I'm in the opposite boat and I've never been happier. It feels good to just relax on my diet and exercise and cut loose a bit.

Not being a hamplanet will have great side effects including but not limited to
>better health
>not washing yourself with a rag on a stick
>generally improved hygiene as you won't have creases that hold that dirty fat smell in them
>improved mobility, no using a scooter to get around
>not needing to be disgusting to look at or boisterous to get people to notice you
>your dating prospects will improve
>you don't need to socialise with other disgusting fat people who just eat and whine
>saving money on food

Stretch marks will fade and loose skin will tighten up, there's no reason you can't be as attractive as someone who isn't a fat mess when you shed the pounds.

It taking time to do so is hardly an argument against losing weight, you didn't unexpectedly wake up to find a slob looking back in the mirror, you had to binge eat, consume entire tubs of ice cream, move less and eat past being full to become obese.

It's about the journey, not the destination. If you start to get healthier from being more active and taking care of yourself, user, who cares how much you weigh? You'll lose weight without even trying if you make it a lifestyle change.

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the journey sounds pointless when you realize that it will take years and you will never succeed anyway

With an attitude like that, you're gonna fail. Pull your head out of your ass.

It's not easier

And you still hang around this trashfire? Dont really buy it

do you have anything better to do?
do it for your health if nothing else

hmmm
>live many years remaining fat with the end result of staying miserable and serious health problems
>live a couple relatively miserable years with improved health and a better outlook on life in general at the end
Your argument isn't one
Just take it one day at a time
You can't change it all at once.
flabby skin + being normal weight > no flab + being fat

whatever health problems you have now are amplified by being overweight and will get worse by staying overweight.

Well it's gotta last you however many years your going to live, soo.. how long do you think you can be fat? What happens when your bones get brittle and you are immobile? Sure you wont get wrinkles but you will get sores. Being old EVERYONES body starts to deteriorate. Being fat while being old is hard mode. Break a knee at 50, you feel it a long time. If your fat as well, that's just extra stress all over, sometimes the pains never go away. Because the body's too busy trying to deal with diabetes, dying cells left and right, fucked up organs, clogged up heart. It all just falls apart.
And don't think "I'm not that fat" cause if your fat it means you're eating too much, which means you will keep eating too much, and keep getting bigger. I don't know a single fat person who doesn't gain at least 5-10+ pounds a year. That adds up fucking fast when you hit 60
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Do it for your health. For your life. So getting out of a chair is easy instead of a fucking production.

Anyways, lose it slowly and consistently and you're skin will repair itself. This means no more than 1-2 pounds a week. Sure it takes time, it's hard. But as you get there it gets easier. And the reward is huge. It just takes some fucking time and effort.

If you can't do that then you will never make it.
I'll tell you how I did it if you care.

>I'll tell you how I did it if you care.
Please share your story

Alright, I just didn't want to type it out unless someone was gonna read it

I started by using a calorie counter and calculating my TDEE (both easy to google) and just did my best to count calories. You want to hit your resting TDEE - 500 calories a day to lose weight without baggy skin. I do resting because we tend to over estimate our calories, so it's best to try and negate that in other areas.
Looking up menus online, reading packages, rough estimates if I had to.
Figured out low calorie staple dinners, like chicken breast, vege chili and stews and shit. You make a shit ton and you've got a week of meals.
You don't have to ruin your life though. Go out with friends, just be smart. Get low cal drinks and pick lighter dishes (ask for half portions), and make sure you don't do it all the time.
Drink mostly water, you don't need anything else.

I didn't count calories from exercising(again, tend to over estimate food calories). I work out three times a week, but a bit of cardio isn't worth counting, it's more about my hearts health. I also have a simple weight lifting routine, for dat ass. It's not really heavy weights, just enough to make me strain and give me definition.

Anyways, I hit my goal weight years ago, and since then it all became a new lifestyle. I know at a glance what the healthier choices are (they tend to be yummier too), and even better, if I eat my required calories, I'm full. It all became second nature. I stopped counting calories years ago but my weight hasn't changed since I hit my goal. (I've gotten smaller though because I've exchanged fat for muscle, another good reason to weight lift)

This was like, a time line of 10 years now, so when I say it takes time I mean it. But what can you do, I spent twice as long being fat.

The biggest thing for me was understanding, accepting, and then craving the hunger "pains".

There are stages to hunger. The first one is "My stomach is empty" and a lot of people who are vastly overweight begin eating at this stage.
Then there is the "I'm a bit hungry' and regular overweight people eat there.
You need to pass through those phases. Past hunger. Past very hungry.
Until you just feel ok. That's the phase when your body begins to break down fats in earnest. Takes about 8 hours between meals.

The best life is equal parts pain and pleasure. The deeper you make the pain the greater the pleasure.
If you don't want pain, you don't get pleasure.

This is actually very true and was a part of my weight lost which I forgot to mention WHOOPS, but I don't really think about it because it's not for everyone.

I only eat 1 big meal at dinner and then some snacks, basically between 4-10pm, I fill my calories. I don't get hungry until dinner time (that took about a week or two to kick in) and then I'm super full cause I ate so much. Easier to "afford" things like pizza calories as well.

A lot of people can't go for food that long, which I understand. But if it's for you, it makes things a lot easier. It's sometimes called Intermittent fasting. It's now just my eating schedule, can't break it, don't get hungry until 4.

Don't do it in the hopes that you'll find love that way. You're putting your convictions to lose weight in the wrong idea. Do it for yourself. Do it for your future kids so you can be a positive role model to them.

You're fat, wrong, stubborn, and a dumbass.

sounds like you already made up your pathetic mind, why post at all? kill yourself.

Losing weight will help.
Doing excersise will help.
eating healthy will help.

If you lose only 1-2 kg a week your skin should be fine. my current gf usede to be a 100kg and lost 5kg a week and now has some flab on her stomach and a lil on her legs. so if you take it slow you might look good, you fat piece of shit.

Lose the weight.

Losing the weight itself may not make you beautiful or get you a man, but feeling better about yourself will

Thanks user

Being obese is worse for you health-wise than being a meth addict

I'm a former fat chick who has loose skin and stretch marks. Even though my thighs/ass permanently look like they have awful cellulite from all the stretched skin no matter how fit I get, it's still absolutely worth it. Quality of life is so much better, and people still treat you better, even with loose skin. Sure I can't wear short shorts without making myself wana practically cry and puke simultaneously , but at least I'm human size and can go up stairs without wheezing for dear life.

Wouldn't it be possible to remove the skin?

Not her but that is a lot of money generally and it wont suddenly give her perfect skin either, only remove the excess. There's ways to lessen it, but it'll never be quite right unfortunately.

So what is the point of everything

What do you mean? Just because something isn't perfect doesn't mean it isn't worth doing. And sometimes mistakes of the past, in this case obesity, intentional or not, can't always be totally repaired.

That isn't to say you shouldn't try, though. Things can always get better.

but if there is no chance at being normal why even bother?? it's not worth it

Okay you're right. Just give up and be a fat disgusting slob forever.