Estrogenic features

Do (non-landwhale) women have more feminine bodies compared to 10 years ago?

Back in the 2000s it seems like women had more subtle curves while still appearing feminine. Today they have curvier features.

I'm also talking strictly about white women here. I also don't think it's due to implants/squats; it's impossible to get a super tiny waist unless you structurally develop that way.

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I feel like we are literally seeing biological change happen before our very eyes.

either evolution by natural selection, or some sort of weird epigenetic environmental thing. I'm leaning towards the latter.

10 years ago... No

30 years ago... Yes.

100 years ago, women started menstruating at about 16 years of age.

now a days its about 12.

I am gay I don't know, post traps.

creepy, not to mention the rise in breast cancer,

Society is becoming hyper feminized, especially in the West.

That girl has extremely thin lips which is pretty much exactly the opposite of 'estrogenic features' tho

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it's all the plastic in everything we eat

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Isn't that a trap?

It was just a random pic

Also thin lips have nothing inherently to do with estrogenic features. They happen to be common on blacks, but they're also more common on Slavs than on West Europeans, even though the latter tend to have curvier bodies.

You know what, I take it back. Perhaps lips do get bigger with more estrogen, but I think every person has their unique "structure" by which estrogen acts.

girl 1 might get bigger lips, while girl 2 develops a bigger bottom.

it depends on the era in which a culture is living in.

in a time of abundance the slim women is popular. the slim women shows everyone that she can remain small and in control of her food intake. it is a sign of strength and self control.

in times of trouble when food is scarce it is the big women that is worshiped. a fat women symbolizes fertility, life, survival.

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k. y. s.

No. The trap thing is a meme. Nyannyan is just some 17 (recently 18) year old kid who absolutely has boobs and vegene

I've known of this and I think it's PARTIALLY right but not that simple

Food is still abundant as fuck in the west, calorie availability is the same as in the 90s. However, the way of society has changed. Biochemically, and socially.

So I think whatever it is that's causing this (BPA, sedentariness, lack of meaningful social connection, option overload, etc) basically mimics the effects of starvation.

Now, why would that be? Well, you have to ask yourself what starvation fundamentally is--it's a lack of calories going into your mitochondria. So this stress-complex we experience today has the same end effect of starvation, which is less ATP coming out of your mitochons.

In starvation, you have no food, so your mitos make less ATP. With this stress-complex, various factors interfere with your mitos ability to make ATP, despite caloric sufficiency. That's my theory at least.

Yes

Fuck off with these meme. Nyannyan is an instagram figure who has done bikini shots and stuff and is blatantly female. Stop fetishizing feminization of men and looking for it everywhere.

Also, a thin women would be preferred because it shows she can actually utilize calories, instead of just storing them away uselessly (of course it's useful if there's a famine).

One more thing: not all of those Venuses were thicc. Venus figurines were also found in Siberia; except the Siberian ones had less curvy women, and more developed faces. Siberian hunters didn't jack off to curvy girls, but to elegant ones.

Why does this matter? Siberia is where the ANE population lived (aka Mal'ta Boy), and where the R haplogroup came from. This population fathered the Indoeuropeans, and eventually all of Europe.

In other words, Aryans didn't like them thick. I think thickness is a degenerate trait.

I've seen her dick dude, cope harder

they have more hormones in their blood then ever before

>generalising over a single case and picture
mutt logic

thicc

>Cope
Fuck off, Resetera.

I didn't even say pic related you frogoid

plastic is likely a huge part of it, but I think the cultural/social shift is more important probably.

I say that because the change seems especially sharp, taking only a decade.

So that, or there was some sort of super sharp increase in plastic use like 15 years ago or something and we're just seeing the lagging indicators of it.

The appreciation of a woman's natural voluptuousity signifies a healthy attraction towards the sexual ugliness of women. If you prefer thin, elegant women, you probably like to do sick, depraved things to women. Because you're the only actor with disgusting characteristics.

This is fine in the eyes of simps who've been making masculinity out to be gross and ugly, but men with dignity, who aren't degenerate, will welcome women who look like women: fat. They will recognize that thinness and sveltness and muscularity is for men, and that women like Twiggy are symptoms of a sick civilization where women no longer get pregnant.

I can't say that I mind bigger tits, wider hips and younger women if I'm perfectly honest. The problem is that this feminization is affecting men too. This is further compounded by a lack of fathers. We like to make fun of blacks about this, but whites a seriously trending toward single motherhood at a very scary rate.

lame af

I don't want a fatass lard of a woman I want a curvy women that cash take care of her body

Fat = curvy = thicc = fat = being a woman who isn't anorexic.

>Real men like women with C U R V E S (read: fat)
t. fat roastie

I see thots at the gym doing nothing but squats and deadlifts presumably so they can attract a nigger mate that's into fat asses. I absolutely hate women that do this because I prefer long, thin legs and doing squats and deadlifts aren't going to make your legs any thinner for sure. The whole thicc thing is negrofied culture spreading. These women are curvy because they're building muscle in their hips, buttocks and thighs and then there's the women getting implants. It's not sexually attractive.

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I know some of us have African blood but damn man

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Yep, confirmed

That's the way it is and that's the way it always will be. Sorry, pervert.

Before men just had sex with women's faces, they were attracted to their feminine figures. That was "raunchy" enough. Thinness desexualizes women and promotes histrionicism.

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So what happens when you mix high T with high estrogen features? I mean like hairy legs and hairy junk, a twat that can bench her own weight, and bulbous, voluptuous features? Wonder if any anons know the camwhore I'm describing

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Enjoy your squat hambeasts with legs the size of tree trunks and butts that draw more mental association with morbid obesity than healthiness.

I'll be enjoying tall, elegant girls that can actually walk in high heels and would tower over your manlet self. Only short women have body types like that picture.

True, and like I said, that still does not explain this phenomenon. You can't make your waist structurally smaller with exercise; you can only lose fat off it.

Additionally: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3079910/

There is a causative link between fatherless households and early puberty, even when controlling for race. Early puberty is linked with higher estrogen. Obviously the number of white households without a father has increased in the last few decades, probably even the last decade.

This is just one factor among many undiscovered ones.

whos this qt? any more of her?

You probably get something resembling a tranny or a gay male.

A real woman will not be able to achieve the T levels of men, unless she supplements. It is impossible for a woman to have the T level of any man, excepting the ones who are severely diseased.

Reminder for anyone lurking this thread that this is the same faggot who makes pro-ana (pro-anorexia) threads, woman-beating threads, MGTOW threads etc. Pic related is a screenshot he shared with me last time I called him out for making these fap threads.

If there was ever any doubt that the fetishization of thin women was linked to extreme sexual psychosis and sadism, this should dispell that.

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Source.

Please!

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Most depictions of Venus have the same body shape, slender with feminine curves, look at the Statue of Venus de Milo (the one with no arms) or the painting of Botachelli, or Bourgerau, or Cabanal or my personal favourite Zuber-Buhler (pic related).

That fat statue pic you've got is a fertility goddess from pre Indo-European farmer society. Because they were a peaceful agriain society, fertility didn't just mean women giving birth, it more meant plentiful food.

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Slender? That's fat. Slender is Kate Moss. Dont put femininity on such a pedestal.

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What about...

Women can now show themselves off to the public much easier.

Before they couldn't show their skin and post images to the internet.
So the only exposure to the female thiccness was selective.

They might've been just as feminine back then as now, we just don't have the massive documentation for it.

You've never seen a naked woman in the flesh have you?

Thank you for your grounding answer. Black women have high levels of testosterone, as an example, so it's logical to assume that genetic variants other than African can and will have higher levels of T than other female mutations. I would assume that while Blacks are on the extreme end of the T spectrum, Asians would be on the other side. She does wear a wig, oddly, but she's no tranny. There's no surgeon on earth that could carve a gash like that (yet). She's slightly chubby and if I were to make a guess her genetic makeup: some sort of modern American mutt - possibly a mixture of hispanic and white. She's "ugly" but in a very cute, effeminate way. She's the product of a combination of both "hybrid vigor" and estrogen byproducts. Quite the world we live in today.

Women are fat and that's OK! Say it with me!

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Hormones in the water and plastics acting as estrogen on the body. Women get bigger tits and men grow infertile.

fucked a thicc girl yesterday, can confirm they are more than okay

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>countries where women mostly have flat asses don't like ass
What a surpise lol, also those ass men in Mongolia and North Korea

>Structurally develop that way

What is a waist trainer.

Those women are.

But the painted Venus's are just right

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Thanks for the RageFuel

She’s dating an Asian guy which is a massive blackpill

How do you rationalize the fact that all women in Playboy prior to a short period in 1990 were what you would probably call obese? How do you rationalize the fact that all sculptures that aren't modern portray women as they are meant to be, fat?

Do you just ignore them when you're in this state?

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She's like a pixie.

You're talking utter bullshit user, Marilyn Monroe had a 22 inch waist, she sure as fuck wasn't overweight or obese

fat makes them produce testosterone faggot

>implying that is fat

I love thick girls but you're talking absolute bullshit. The labeling people who prefer slim women as perverts is classic projection. Are you underage by any chance?

Marilyn Monroe was fat.

It is. Pic related is the first female to swim the English Channel, Mercedes Carey. She isn't petite. No woman who's survived being pregnant is "thin".

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That was when Marilyn was pregnant. Like the Aussie said, she had a very small waist. Even now a 22" waist is tiny.

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The women I'm posting aren't thick. They're normal.

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She's fat in this picture.

Women are fat. OK?

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>wide hips

that's not fat though user, its healthy

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She's 19 already. Just like the ahegao girl playing the fairy.

It's simple.

The uterus actually keeps track of how many children it produces and births. Testosterone levels in the fetus, determine the skeletal structure and the temperament of the child. 1st borns are generally considered to be the best quality stock that will come from a uterus--every subsequent child recives less testosterone.

As you go down the line, by the 7th child, a uterus is putting out runts and fags.

This is natural, and not exclusive to humans.

HOWEVER...
if you flood the environment with xeno estrogens and get women to take synthetic estrogen to manage their cycles, it ends up fucking with the basal testosterone levels of the uterus, and when the girl decides to have a kid, it will come out like her 7th child, even though it's her 1st.

This shit has been going on for what... like 40 years now?

This is why traps are popular. There's hardly any masculine-looking women(women with sharp curves and masculine 2D:4D ratio.) outside of modeling. A lot more women would look like that, if they weren't being runted. The manlet situation is 100% connected to this as well.

Healthy women are fat. There are no healthy women who aren't fat. To be female is to be fat.

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Would be hot if she were?

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>If you prefer thin, elegant women
>you probably like to do sick, depraved things to women.
yes

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I'd put the on diet unless they've already given birth than this is normal for that age.

What medical school did you graduate from?

What I find odd is how certain ages have this lingering moment with puberty lately. I remember when I was young, someone in grade 5 looked way older. When I was a sophmore in high school, all the freshmen looked like toddlers, and it was weird seeing them make out others. Today, girls now have this curvy adult look where you can't tell if a teen girl is legal or not.

Oh shid it's real, I thought it's someone else looking like her intentionally.
i-am-bored.com/2017/10/photos-of-marilyn-monroe-skinny-dipping-go-on-the-auction-block

Sorry but calling a thin woman fat isn't going to redefine what the words mean. Don't understand your obsession with calling thin women fat. I'm guessing it's a weird fetish you got.

That's perfect there.

This is kinda fat.
This isn't.

It's almost impossible to find "thin" women before 1920. I would know because I have a vast collection of vintage porn. The new shit is too gross for me.

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Yeah that's normal boring lot of teens look like that because of the hamburgers.

Nope that's fat.

Do you not know what adipose tissue is?

??? Can you just not see it?

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This is good even of chubby.

you fap to dead chicks

That's top tier ass.

What a shit excuse for being fat

Ah, so you're just a kooky pervert.

Nah these are good I had girlfriends and tons of hookers before. I like skinny but almost all women will have more bodyfat because of hormones.

Fugg. I am kekkening.

being chubby was a sign of wealth during any time period that isnt modern, since they all had their food problems. so art was primarily like what you have, not because its natural. lol jesus christ. do you think thin women didnt exist because you cant find art?

Women have always had feminine bodies like right now no difference. Difference is clothing style back then didnt bring it out and people were more composed with their clothing. Nowadays most wearing tight exposing stuff with tons of makeup so it brings out feminine parts

Now explain Playboy, Freud

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Growing up as a millennial, I noticed that the kids that were older than me by a few years much more closely resembled mature adults than we did or more accurately, would. I extrapolated this instinctively; ie, out of my ass and with an age-bias that should have affected this prediction (of course that kid looks older... because he IS older. derp). And yet, my childhood predictions remained correct for the most part. Boys like myself did take longer to physically mature in terms of overall appearance... and lots of boys remained looking like young boys. You see them all the time in unboxing videos with their mouths at the ready to receive an unprecedented load.

My grandmother was born during WW1 and she was like the size most of the women on the vintage photos, despite being poor af.

No, it was just that it was a more ideal body type, especially to portray in art. Fat gives women curves and softens their body image in contrast of the more defined and angular image men had.

Nah that's old and fat, possibly a peasant too.

the last thing fat women need is to feel good about themselves