Anyone here MGTOW?

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yeah, anyone telling you to get married on here is literally a child and doesn't know better yet

That image is fucking stupid. Btw i have definitely not fucked my wife as much since having our kid. The memes are real. I’m actually learning an instrument now and getting into meditation though.

if you pay taxes you are married to women whether you like it or not since you support their bastard crotch spawn via food stamps

Yes Goy, don't get married or have children, there are already too many white people on this planet.

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fuck off name fag

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Most of Jow Forums doesn't like MGTOW because Jow Forums supports the idea of white procreation and MGTOW is more defeatist on the idea of getting married and having kids.
I don't think anybody can argue that women have social advantages over men nowadays but not getting married just because being a man sucks isn't exactly the best solution either

What exactly is the reason for that? Does something drastically change once you get a kid that completely kills sex-drive or just makes it different?

>plan is to not have kids
>trying to make me feel bad about the world, YOUR kids are gonna live in.
yeah...don't really give a shit bro

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Fuck off with your pathetic incel bullshit.
Go die alone somewhere else, don't drag gullible Jow Forumstards into this.

>He's OK with the non-whites taking over
Good riddance then, trash like you doesn't deserve to live anyway.

Me. Fuck sluts. I want to shoot them all. I read Jack donovan too. Stay mad.

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>Most of Jow Forums
most of Jow Forums is

You can write us a song about what a cuck you are

You need to go kike.

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>yeah...don't really give a shit bro
t. jew enabler

literally immune, have fun dying when your in the 40s from all the stress of the world m8

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I think we are just naturally not as horny for each other and I think something changes when you take on the role of care giver to a child. I’ve also lost interest in porn. Idk maybe i feel happy with who I am and don’t need to ejaculate all the time to cope? I’m not even a cuck, I mean a little because I’m not going have more than two kids, but my generation is poor as fuck and I don’t want to be in abject poverty.

>I think "we" are just naturally not as horny
its fine to lie to us, don't lie to yourself dude

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fpbp

> There are a lot of selfish people.
Yes, but it's not hard to be in the better 50% unless you're retarded.

This. Everybody who questions the divinity of women is an incel. :^)

I mean I know I’m not as crazy about fucking her as we were when we first met, this is one of the problems with mates for life, but I want my kid to have a stable home so this is it. Plus we’re both around 30 so it’s not like thotting it up or chasing pussy is as fun as it once was. People my age who are dating are pathetic

MGTOW is a bunch of abandoned boomers who entice youngsters to an old Jow Forums stance of sorts. Well guess what! Jow Forums is old Jow Forums.
Well adjusted plebbit 2016 immigrants can all go to hell.

If you got divorced one of the following applies:
> She was an exceptionally selfish person and you didn't notice before because of mild autism.
> She was not a virgin.
> You were the problem.
> You got 1 in ten million unlucky

I'd like to see you suffer

How is your marriage going, Nigel?

This is the TRUTH. I'm getting married as soon as possible. I update all of my dating profiles every day with new pictures of me doing cool things. I want to have 5 children. It's going to be awesome and she's never going to divorce me because I'm awesome.

Also

>She was an exceptionally selfish person

Literally any woman in western civilization

>She was not a virgin

+90% of women 18 and older.

>You were the problem

You're a woman.

>1 in ten million unlucky
>50% divorce rate

That doesn't make any sense statistically. Now I know you're a woman.

See >71% divorce rate in portugal

I hope you remember this post when you're being dragged through divorce court.

life is suffering,whoever told you different lied.
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Bagina after childbirth turns into a giant bottomless pit with and you can barely feel its walls (or cant at all). It is not stimulating your benis at all, its like fucking air.
Thats why you should never even consider having children before she turns 25 and you have already had your fun with her. When she turns into a cellulite-filled ageing woman with stretch marks everywhere and wrinkles on her face - then yeah, you can breed with her. Otherwise you are losing your sex life.

Yeah you just described Leonardo DiCaprio to a T

1 in 10 million unlucky
50% divorce rate
Sounds legit

I had a friend who's missus had just had a child, first time they had sex afterwards he said "you've turned into a bucket" she stabbed in in the chest with a kitchen knife and he almost died. Shes in jail now.
Get married and have kids fuckwits what are you waiting for.

I agree on the first two, never said it was going to be easy to find a decent woman.
> Literally any woman in western civilization
well let's not deal in quite so hopeless absolutes. I'm sure there are some that are fine.

> You're a woman.
No.

> That doesn't make any sense statistically. Now I know you're a woman.
Yes it does. Most of the divorces are caused by selfish and promiscuous people who have no discipline. Think about it again. Note, only "one of the following applies".

fpbp

>one of the following applies
>one
>ONE

But you don't get the benefits of marriage.

Well I am just happy that there's one less poo-ing family in our land.


It's bad that MGTOW is accelerating the white population decline though.

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Beats getting raped through the divorce courts. I'd rather get stabbed and have her locked up for attempted murder of it ever came to that.

Because children are utterly exhausting. From the minute they are born until they finally leave the family home they are utterly and soul crushingly exhausting.

I have 2 daughters and we are both generally just too tired. Women struggle to become aroused and men struggle to stay aroused, that's just how it goes.

It gets a bit easier as they get older, sometimes they both go for sleepovers at the same time, we go out drinking for a few hours and then come home early and fuck like rabbits.

It's the same when we go on holiday, get the kids in kids club and go back to the hotel room to fuck each others brains out for 3 hours straight. It's funny because all the hotel guests are doing the same thing and we all know what the plan is when we drop our kids off.

Fuck I'm getting horny thinking about it, as soon as wifey gets back from taking the kids out to dance class I'm gonna get her upstairs and smash her box in.

That last sentence makes it so much funnier. Well done.

damn straight

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I don't know how it is on the other side of the pond but over here the idea of women "having it all" is starting to suffer from an existential crisis.

There was an article about Sex In The City recently about how "real life Carrie Bradshaws" are all 40 yrs old, single, childless, unmarried and utterly miserable.

The reality is dawning on them that they can't have it all and they can't keep blaming everyone else.

A man can wait until he is 28 and still pick up a smoking hot 18 year old to marry and have kids with.

These 28, 38 and 48 year old women have all started to realise they are being left behind. In fact it's hilarious when I talk to these women in bars and hide my wedding ring from them, then they notice it and I see their faces turn. They really had thought they had snagged a good provider but no, I'm taken and have been for 15 years. They missed the fucko g boat and they will spend the rest of their miserable lives alone with their mangy cats

Wife just got back from dropping the kids off, see you guys in a bit. I'm going in!!!!

welcome to Jow Forums friend. someone give him the proper literature.

wtf I’m a woman now

>someone give him

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You get the bullet too faggot

that's fine, rather die a free man in all honesty, not my job to fix this

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>anyone here FAGGOT?

Everyone in this thread is a faggot.

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Kys

Only concerning western women, spoiled brats. I hit up Asians though.

at least I can still feel user

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There are hormonal changes that can occur but it has far more to do with practicality and opportunities to have sex are far fewer. Before kids you can pretty much have sex whenever you want wherever you want in your house or apartment, but after kids there are severe limitations of when and where. And on top of that you deal with the exhaustion of raising children and all the stress that entails.

I KNOW RIGHT? WHAT ALL ALL THESE FAGS DOING. THEY MUST BE SECRETLY GAY. LOL. I MEAN LOOK AT PIC RELATED. SHES AN ARYAN QWEEN JUST WAITING TO GET IMPREGNATED. THESE BETA INCELS JUST NEED TO "RED PILL WOMEN WITH THEIR COCK". WHY CAN'T THEY DO THAT? ARE THEY FAGGOTS? YOU CAN JUST "FUCK THE CRAZY OUT OF THEM". THIS IS HOW A GROWN ADULT THINKS - NOT LIKE THESE MANCHILDREN WHO NEED TO GROW UP. NIGGERS HAVE THE RIGHT IDEA - "MUH DICK" IS THE SOLE PHILOSOPHY. PIC RELATED WILL MAKE A GREAT MUM AS ITS NOT ABOUT QUALITY, ITS JUST ABOUT WHETHER THEY'RE WHITE. SHES WHITE, SO HAVE A KID WITH HER. IT'LL TURN OUT GREAT. ONLY A FAG WOULD NOT IMMEDIATELY JUMP AT THE CHANCE TO PROVIDE EVERY DEMAND FOR THIS LOVELY "WOMAN". MGTOWS JUST SELECT SHIT-TIER WOMEN. NOT ALL WOMEN ARE LIKE THAT.

NOW GET OUT THEIR AND SAVE THE WHITE RACE WITH LITERALLY ANYONE. THESE TAX SHEKELS ARENT GOING TO PAY THEMSELVES.

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47 yr old mgtow here. mgtow mainly means you don't get married or share financial resources with a woman, and you don't have kids. It does not mean you avoid them all together. There are many women these days that want their independence too and are fine being in a relationship, but not married. So you fuck them and have maybe 1 or 2 other FWB on the side. The main thing is you never want to get married, and you never want to shit out kids. I think only religious nutcases crank out kids these days, anyway.

Lol cuck

They love the kid more than you the moment its born.
Marriage is STUPID

C O R N U D O

I love it because it’s karma for all the grief they caused in their younger lives.

They guys they led on or hurt have all finally found peace and hot little 20 year olds and these women are left behind, watching the future that could have been theirs.

>TL;DR lol fuck you, Sarah. You really missed the boat on this one. And enjoy your cheating deadbeat “husband” Nicole! He fucked your best friend. Ive seem the pictures, slut.

She’s gonna be hurting in the morning.
>from my dick. >:D

>MGTOW: men are all saints and women all sluts

yeah, no. and by the way, if you cannot have the upper hand in a relationship and get some respect and choose a partner carefully, then she's not a slut, you're the cuck.

traditional gender role is dead. There is no 'upper hand' here.

You are just repeating the tradcon/pua thing that still believes that masculinity is all about keeping women under control. Well it was, until the man was the sole bread earner.

All society is exposed to the same programming. Your woman WILL be exposed. She will have friends who are exposed even if she isn't and those friends will corrupt her in order that she continues to be "part of the group". Women cannot handle being out side of "the group".

Do u kno what a hotel is
do u have grandparents

12 times a year, if that, right?

t; married 24 years

Death to namefags

If you lower the age to under 35 - 40 years old, the divorce rate in USA is 80%; 75% initiated by the wife.

Only have 2 out of 100 chance of not getting divorced.

MGTOW is a kike idea, I get that reddit kids buy into it but Jow Forums really?

Sounds like you're still mad and hurt. Karma isn't schadenfreude.

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Going MGTOW is the only sane choice and kikes hate it
>Muh divorce firm is failing, goyim! Quick, marry!

so are mgtards ever going to address the not having children issue or are they just going to continue being part of the cancer killing western civilization?

We do, and it's true.

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MGTOW don't have a solution for what would motivate a man other than having a family.
Also they don't realise that there is a simple solution, which is just moving to a country with uncucked divorce laws.
Other than that, I mostly agree with their stance on women being trash and avoiding getting legally tied to a woman in the West or bringing one here.

No because I showed the slightest effort in approaching girls and even when discussing politics didn't scare them away and they showed me affection.

calm down autist

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>WHY WOULD JEWS WANT MEN TO AVOID MASSIVE DEBT AND DIVORCE LAWYER FEES
Because they want you to not have children so they can replace you with dumb mestizos or pakis that are easy to control. They want you to have no stake on the future of your country, so they can pass destructive laws and regulations to fuck those who did have children even further.
The jew likes the money,
but the jew hates the goy more.

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Portugal is being invaded by nogs and brazilians mongrels..... why don´t you 'based' portuguese do something like your ancestors? you are cucked beyond repair.

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Why attack another user's nation while hiding your own?

OY VEY GOYIM LOOK AT WHAT YOU DID
NOW MY (((DAVID'S))) BRIDAL IS BANKRUPT!
YOU BETTER START MARRYING BEFORE MY DIVORCE FIRM GOES UNDER TOO

I want a qt normal wife.

Also, the "pick the right one" and "control your woman" memes are both retarded. Because the State always has its hand on the scales, tipping everything in the woman's favor.

You simply won't win in a LTR by design, and short term relationships are risky, not just because of the traditional dangers like STDs, unwanted pregnancies, and ruining your reputation, but because women can now punish you for being reluctant to commit with a sex crime charge, even decades later.

Marriage is out, because laws on domestic abuse, divorce, alimony etc. are all slanted in favor of the woman. Hookups are out because again the government will always be there to fuck you over if she decides you were an asshole for any number of stupid reasons her pretty little head can think up. That leaves prostitution, but that's also illegal in most jurisdictions and if anyone near you (family, coworkers etc) finds out enjoy having your reputation ruined on social media.

Normies and bluepills are right that MGTOW isn't a choice. Increasingly, it's just a long-term survival strategy. No-one LIKES being sexually frustrated, but no-one with any sense likes ruining their life either.

in b4 >what about all the married guys who DON'T get divorce-raped or charged with domestic abuse/kiddy-fiddling etc.

Well, they are just living under the constant knowledge that his darling wife COULD ruin his life at any moment. Call me a cynic but I don't and never will trust anyone that much, if you do you're a weak fool.

It's a heads, (((I))) win, tails you lose situation. The kind (((they))) like best.

You are losing right now and will keep losing until the Revolution both breaks out and is victorious.

lol, good one

The redpill on MGTOW is that it saves the individual but will kill civilization if everyone does it, just as the tradcucks say.

Still society will collapse/undergo some kind of revolution of some kind long before that happens, so while you are doing your part to kill the White race if you stay celibate it’s only to the extent that that you’re killing the planet by driving a hummer or something.

Basically low marriage and birth rates as well as undesired demographic changes have policy solutions, what you or I do as individuals does have an impact but don’t kid yourself into thinking that anything you personally do is saving/destroying the world unless you’re literally choosing to sire the next Alexander/Hitler/Ghengis Khan-tier world changer or not or some shit

my nation is on my flag you cunt

Name just one solid reason to participate in the game.
All that is left is negative reinforcement.

I still feel bad in the public sphere for not trying to woo women, who I want absolutely nothing to do with otherwise.

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Then your nation is B L A C K E D to hell and now is being taken over by Cubans and Mexicans. So there. Stop being a cunt.

>being such a selfish prick that you intentionally put a child into this world just to suffer
pure evil

My nation has more racialists than any place in the world you amerindian clown

Gib me qt Korean bf :3

>We should not aim to further our bloodline because it’s difficult and I don’t like difficult things
You are literally a child in man’s clothes. What will your life amount to in the end of you’re unwilling to challenge yourself and do your duty upon this world?
Keep this up and you’ll die alone and unfulfilled.