Give me 1 (one) valid argument why he is wrong!

By the way your point doesn't matter, if there is desire for 15yo pussy, then there is a very high likelihood this person will eventually act out their desire.

It can be proven through statistics that people who own pornography of children, are highly likely to commit pedophilia acts on children, and that is why there is such a law in place.

Who made the child porn? Were children involved/ harmed? Would it have been made without demand for it?

If it is made because there is demand the demand harms children

simple possession of dated child porn may not hurt anyone but the sharing of child porn online and payment for new pornography feeds demand for the product. This endangers vulnerable children around the world who would be exploited for profit or the simple pleasure of sharing the images with 'like-minded' people online.

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15 year olds aren't old enough to make a responsible decision to expose their body parts. It's abuse, you can call it systematic abuse and the sexualisation of children in society. This is what the cancer of liberalism and progressiveness has brought upon us.

Children should be allowed to be children and be taught dignity and to respect their own bodies, not that they are sexual objects.

>Simple possession of child porn does not
So the child in the porn has had no harm caused to them?

Strawman argument and/or weak bait. In other news George bush is dead. Here is a quote
'I do not like broccoli. And I haven't liked it since I was a little kid and my mother made me eat it. And I'm President of the United States and I'm not going to eat any more broccoli.'"

I gave you multiple valid arguements, do I get some type of reward? Maybe some child porn that's on your hard drives?

Praise be to KEK! And also Allah. Salamanderlenko

I don't see how doing heroin harms others. I guess there are secondary factors like DUI. But then you could just argue CP hoarding generates demand blah blah.

I blame the parents of the kids who go on sites like omegle and periscope. Where the fuck are the parents when they do this? Kids shouldn't have access to the internet at all. This shit just fucks them up and exposes them to people like the guy in the op pic.

If any of you guys have daughters, for all that is holy, don't ever let them use the internet unsupervised, and don't give them mobiles with cameras.

Not really, since CP covers everything from cartoons to 21 year old girls who look and act young.

Just like I'm sure his "heroin possession hurts people" argument is probably equally convoluted.

It poses a risk to sexy kids

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Depends on the porn in question. Filthy brit-bongs ran CP in their major papers for the whole family to see throughout the 80's. The only harm that caused was in a round-a-bout way inflicting the Spice Girls on us.

How does doing heroin imposes risk on others?

only loli should be legal

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Driving. Blackmarket trade. Usual second hand things I guess.

>exploiting the child featured in said child porn

Call the FBI on this guy. I strongly doubt he's talking about his illicit hentai collection.

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Homeless junkies literally throw their fucking used needles on the ground, in peoples back yards where children play, etc.

because if its legal it will create a demand , and that demand would make 'creating' new stars easier thus more exploiting

Sounds like a plan to me!

> you are guilty because you thought of something and didn't actually act on

brainlet alarm activated

Hes not. People who argue for cp illegality are blatantly violating the first amendment.

dont reply to me with your emotional bullshit appeals ive heard them all countless times before.

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Child porn is produced at the expense of victims, which are victimized because there's a demand for it.

2D is not 3D but if he owns CP, he needs to explain who made it or face the consequences

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Not if you pirate it - then you're actually working to destroy the industry. In fact, to stop it completely, or at least to stop the financially motivated part of it you'd only have to disseminate every new video as widely as possible. If FBI did that instead of wasting their time infiltrating shit or whatever it is they do, they'd make every producer go bankrupt in a matter of months. Set up a .gov site. Run a team to monitor new releases. Shamelessly steal every one of them. Upload them to that .gov site. Advertise it for everyone to see.

He's obviously a "check out my Big Brain" pseudo trying to demonstarte that he can out 4D Shapiro anyone who tries to Logic him. Like that fag Goronchev.

the problem with arguing for cp is everyone thinks you are a pedo

So buying and consuming cp is not an act?

* where sexy children play

The same could be said of owning faggot's heads...

But Christian western values have deemed it inappropriate and taboo for people in our civilized society to own the heads, skins, entrails or testicles of undesirable people. The same is true of owning child pornography. And both for very similar reasons.

Don't just pirate, tell everyone who it was made by

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LOL this

Murder videos are produced at the expense of the victims, which are victimized because there's a demand for it.

Rape videos are produced at the expense of the victims, which are victimized because there's a demand for it.

Terrorism videos are produced at the expense of the victims, which are victimized because there's a demand for it.

Gore videos are produced at the expense of the victims, which are victimized because there's a demand for it.

D O U B L E
D I G I T
S H I T C O I N

What about owning snuff films then?

I would argue they're equally bad, but not all that bad in a vacuum. Problem is demand drives supply for both of those industries and causes mass suffering. Better to make it all illegal and keep these degenerates from ruining society.

But that doesn't count for the individualist, who make their own clean heroin and use it to take a break from this exhausting world.
If you are arguing that everyone using heroin is a danger to public, you must also argue that everyone who possesses cp is also a danger to the public.

How do you "consume" photo or video?

Buying/paying for production obviously is an act with a clear chain of cause and effect though.

Which is why people with subscriptions to news sites are directly responsible for terrorism and school shootings - as publicity directly creates demand.

This is why Jim Acosta and Stephen Colbert should be in Guantanamo.

How does owning the child porn undo the horrible sexual crime inflicted upon the kids?
Explain how making ordinary people have 100000% more incentive to dispose of any child porn they accidentally come into contact with out of fear of being charged and labelled with crimes helps identify the victim and/or criminals in the porno

one "redpill" Jow Forums will NEVER swallow is Jews convinced whitey to not breed teenage girls, while EVERYONE else does.

(i) doing children impress risks on others, or (ii) simple possession of heroin does not

How does doing heroin impose a risk on others though? Does he mean that people have to steal and rob innocent pedophiles to feed their habit? Because during the high, the user literally harmless. Just laying on the floor like a piece of wet rag. Also possesing and consuming CP creates a demand for CP.

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I'm pretty sure a bunch of countries like France and the U.K. DO classify terrorism/gore videos as illegal

Also this

Ok I would say in both cases the question is if the producer gains something from you demanding it. The simple possession does not harm but the simple possession of h deosnt harm anyone. And I would argue the consume of h or cp harms at least the consumer.

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You're a monster. That's how the whole world sees you. I think loli hentai is okay though, that should be protected since their age and maturity is only what you project them as and are not based on a real person's.

But in either case you're training your brain to associate children with cumming, which is fucking POISON for your mind and you'd be a total fool to do that to yourself. If you want to carry on like that then you should be quarantined for everyone else's sake.

You have no care for what you put in your mind. I'll allow your free speech argument to an extent, but that extent ends after 2D.

I'm just guessing as to what position he would take to argue that heroin usr harms others. Those are the generic positions most people lean on. Also crime/welfare dependency, lack of productivity etc.

Same thing could be said about execution videos. Future people will die because you possessed them? I don't think so user.

Let's put forth a hypothetical. If there were no view counts and nobody knew you downloaded it, how would that contribute to further production? I don't see how at all.

The creators of such videos should be exposed and "given credit" for their work

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It's too noble a goal for this degenerate nation but there is logic behind allowing a female to date and mature before having children at 18

I semi agree with the idea that our cultural values are inherently fucked, but letting children breed would be a disaster for modern society. You'd have to demodernize to even try that.

>free speech to an extent

The modern american ladies and gentlemen

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Unfortunately this same argument has been (mostly) successful when goinf after "racism" and other distasteful subjects too.

Notice how I said date and mature before 18, not get fucked by a bunch of dudes and suck a bunch of dick

Arguably 16 is better and non sexual dating can start around puberty

>date
Dating is degenerate baby boomer garbage. Courtship and then marriage is the traditional path to happiness.

Yeah courtship is pretty close to what I was talking about

Like getting to know the opposite sex etc

>possessing and consuming CP creates a demand for it
Who are these people making money off CP? How will that person know if I downloaded it and consumed it if no one pays for it or comes into contact with the producers?

I'm not saying it should be legal. I've seen it on /b/ back in the day and it was absolutely horrifying. but that argument holds no water for me. Why not just come out and say that it's illegal because it's plain disgusting and horrifying instead of grasping for straws?

I grew up in an area where it was normal for 13-15 year olds to get knocked up. They were 99.9% likely to pop out a future welfare dependent criminal (as well as being welfare leeches themselves).

You know exactly what I mean fucker. Free speech covers 2D, not 3D. Fucking brain-fried creep. You're a threat and menace to society and belong in the nigger zoo or straight up lynched preemptively. You are NOT safe around others. You're scum and I'm glad you suffer for your disability.

Would it be a sort of disaster that could hasten the collapse?

having cp does not create demand, people wanting it creates demand. this is true primarily because i can copy an image on the internet with no one being the wiser.

about heroin, depending on how broadly you want to think about his statement, you can see how it could do bad. harm does not have to mean physical. as an example, maybe someone in a deparment of a company gets outed or caught using heroin. now the rest of the department is all suspect.

Young mothers don't pick good fathers

Child predators generally make terrible fathers

Because propaganda convinced parents to hate their own daughters who get pregnant instead of being supportive loving people.

>gets proven wrong
>straight to the nigger tier insults and rage

Free speech is free speech cumquat. Learn what it means.

I was born to a 15yo mother. Not a welfare queen but it was fucking awful. As for your welfare queens, that's what I mean by "it would be a disaster in modern society."

Doing heroine does not impose risk on others if it is legal, clean and cheap.

Their parents were nearly all Bogan trash too though.

Being in possession of heroin doesnt hurt anyone either.
The using part is where it becomes tricky.

Does the way he got his hands on said CP create an incentive for someone to create more CP? I assume we can agree that the production of CP imposes risks on the children involved. Sure, he can ignore what implications the 'simple possession of CP' might entail, but then he is in no place to criticize the act of doing heroin.

you need to abuse kids in order to produce child porn.
any porn should be forbidden and people doing it hanged from lamp posts but in the case of child porn anyone who even creates a little of demand for the product should be fucking tortured to death

Owning real child porn is not "free speech" retard. Owning drawings MIGHT be. I'm treating you how you deserve to be treated. You deserve to die.

Dirty needles, petty crime, theft. The usual. Don't forget the dead bodies in subways and alleys that need to be cleaned up.

Many cities here state side have a big problem with drug trafficking and trade, especially with all this highly potent synthetic shit being pandered around to hook people and create junkies. Drug pushers of that ilk should be able to qualify for the death penalty, with the amount of lives and families they ruin for the sake of a buck under the table.

It's killing people AND unregulated tax evasion!

If that's the case, some rap-tap-tapping on his door by some glow in the dark types should wizen him the fuck up. Especially if they find questionable shit on his confiscated hard-drives.

Child pornographers deserve the death penalty too, so they have every right to be curious about where that shit is coming from.

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in fact in non-retarded legislations only the procurement of CP is a crime. If you have it you need to be investigated to see if you have procured it willingly or not

btw - a form of CP has now been made legal in Ausfailia. Sexting, as long as it's between "similar age" people.

First Amendment doesn't protect the violation of innocence, you pigcunt cankerwart. May the Lord destroy your animal filth quickly.

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Yes it is. Media is classified as speech, ergo cp is speech, ergo its covered under free speech. If you think the kike scotus saying its magically an exception with no justification takes precedence over the actual words of the constitution and basic common sense youre cattle like so much of the rest of this country.

And thanks to your attitude, anyone who comes into contact with CP deletes it or whatever and never speaks of it again when they could hand it in to police to hopefully identify the victim and criminals.

>violation of innocence

Typical theocrat subhuman making up words and throwing shit into documents that were never there. You probably think the scotus justification of "no societal purpose" is justifiable dont you? Guess how many other things can fit under that banner?

You people are the slippery slope you claim to despise.

All forms of porn and drugs cause degeneracy amongst a populace, hence they are a menace.

Free speech is me telling you being a mentally disabled creep who hoards evidence of abused children is not free speech.

>brit-bongs ran CP in their major papers for the whole family to see throughout the 80's

lol wut?

>CP apologist.
>Ethereum dev.
>SJW as all fuck.
>Socialist management policies.
>Incompetent as fuck, constantly misses deadlines.
>Gives no fucks about core supporters.

Well imagine my shock. Are we sure it's not a tranny? How many CEOs lose 80% company value in a year without a heavy dose of cuntfusion?

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Bullshit excuse that enables creeps. The real problem is the FBI/CIA covering it up.

You dont just randomly find CP. So your excuse is ultra kikery

Nice so this is where the argument is going now. You have nothing. Make your pathetic feminist "moralistic" arguments all you want. Youre wrong.

The problem is that it is heavily disincentivized to keep a stable family especially if you are lower class so we have a cycle of poverty instituted by welfare

>Having cp does not create demand, people wanting it creates demand

Isn't that an oxymoron? Having it implies that you got it because you wanted to download it. It gives the producers of child pornography the attention they shouldn't be getting. It is impossible to defend child pornography on moral grounds.

Here have a naked cartman and stop abusing real children.

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Why the fuck would you have cp in the first place? Cp doesn't magically appear on your computer.

Page 3 girls. Lots of them were "underage". The most popular one was Samantha Fox who got her start at 15. Murdoch finally cut it out in the mid twenty teens after decades of feminist whining (and the fact that no one needs a print tabloid to see boobs anymore). Gerri Halliwell started out as a Page 3 girl (she was 18 though), hence the Spice Girls connection.

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