Why did Christianity lose to Atheism

I agree with you. But I'd like to understand what has actually caused Christianity's inability to counter Atheism's takeover of culture.

The schism between Orthodox, Protestant and Catholic Christians is in my opinion one of the problems which has made the religion culturally weaker. Atheism, but also Islam and Judaism do not have this problem. If I was a Christian, I would make attempts to heal that wound.

Very simple IMO. The concept of 'love your neighbour as you love yourself' was subverted to mean 'love everyone as you love yourself' by (((minor interest groups))) over time.

I think it’s because Islam is seen as a primitive version of Christianity by leftists so they don’t see it as a threat since they already bested or diminished Christianity’s power.

The trouble is, while the teachings are good, the priests and people at the top are corrupt cunts that wallow in riches and claim to be holier-than-thou. With education avaliable to the poor and without the threat of religious police looking to burn dissidents at the stake, it's no wonder why fewer people are religious in the west these days.

The New Testament doesn't even support brick and mortar churches and institutional clergy

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It originates in the dispute between the Latins and the Greeks over created grace. The Latins reified their errors and the internal contradictions of Catholicism birthed Protestantism, which in turn led to Liberalism and later Marxism.

The Latins believed that bishops are 3D printers of holiness, which led to the papal monarchy and the antithesis of this in thousands of protestant sects.

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I was, mój drogi rodaku. I had lost faith over time due to a tough childhood and later life after emigration to the UK. Religion is necessary because some people are unfortunately not smart enough to create a good sense of morality and need a source of absolute, objective morality provided to them. It's rather rude, but I believe it to be true. Also I think humans are hardwired to have faith, whether religious or not. Before people would subscribe to a religious faith. Nowadays people have faith in some political doctrine instead.

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Easy to understand why, the religion was built on false premises and noble words to trick the weak into buying in, after the peasant class switches soon after pressure from the masses the higher class converted to stop revolts jewish kikery at its finest however the tables are starting to turn the facade is dropping and most people are tired of being duped by the abrahamic religions

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atheists will be extinct by 2070 due to white genocide lmao

No, but the average person doesn’t read and study their own religion. They rely on religions authority to tell them what’s correct and those people are free to say that it does.

Most traditional religions are built on making people feel better about their horrible existence. It's the same whether you have faith in Jesus or in the Black Sun.

Seems legit, ancient myths were supposed to give morals after all, religious cults just took it further

>Hard mode: An answer that's a bit more complex than just 'Jews'.
It was never the Jews in the first place. Europeans have a strong sheep mentality. They are primed to follow "something". Christianity filled the void when Roman leaders were being outed as corrupt and decadent. When the Church was formed and everyone was proselytized, no one complained.

CHRISTIANITY FELL BECAUSE THE CHURCH DID NOT CONTROL THE COMMUNICATION LINES IN THE 20TH CENTURY - THE CORPORATIONS DID. MONEY BECAME THE NEW GOD AND PEOPLE BEGAN TO WORSHIP MONEY INSTEAD OF JESUS CHRIST.

Also I'd like to add that I think that the Church in Poland is one of the base reasons why Poland has been able to resist the subversion of the (((new West))). The Church provides a way for the community to gather and with a good preacher, provide moral lessons for the community, though of course there is the downside of the more corrupt and degenerate priests in the Polish clergy. The faith has IMO been one of the ways the average Polish man has been able to otherise the Islamic invader and the many subversive agents attempting to turn the country into just another western """""country"""". I appreciate the Church's existence in Poland, even if it is in many ways rotten and corrupt inside.

What do you think a solution for this could be?

CATHOLICISM IS NOT CHRISTIAN!

The slow decrease of polarization
Science
Mainstream autocracy

Rules

t. leftist

It is a branch of the faith in Christ. How is it not Christian?

>What do you think a solution for this could be?
You have to retake the control of the communication lines. Majority of the people in the world are sheep. In order to control the sheep, you need to be the shepard. To be the shepard, you need to have the ability to get your message across to all the sheep.

HE WHO CONTROLS THE LINES OF COMMUNICATION CONTROLS EVERYTHING.

>Europeans have a strong sheep mentality
this is rich coming from an American hehe!

Social cohesion and the hedonistic influence from entertainment/media, especially in the 60s-90s.

Basically once the chainlink from 1 generation is destroyed, you can expect the snowball effect since that generation will pass it down to their children.

I'm not sure that is an achievable goal. The biggest communication line is the Internet, which apart from the cables themselves is ostensibly owned by international corporations. Even if you were to head into an ISP's board meeting and pop everyone inside, the corporation would keep going.

>this is rich coming from an American hehe!
Where do you think we originate from, fagget? Antarctica? 80% of Americans have European heritage.

its obvious. the church doesnt support the degeneracy that the atheists like to indulge in. so instead of being the black sheep who is seen fo rwhat he is, they go to the safe space with freaks like them

>The biggest communication line is the Internet, which apart from the cables themselves is ostensibly owned by international corporations. Even if you were to head into an ISP's board meeting and pop everyone inside, the corporation would keep going.
Then you have to wait till this cycle of power is complete.

Since majority of people in the world are sheep (NPC), it is the ideology that binds them together. Christianity used to be the ideology that bound people together. Now it is money.

But all ideologies go through a cycle of power. They are weak, unproven, on the fringes - then they slowly rise to power - then they become the mainstream oppressing other ideologies - then they are toppled by another ideology that was considered a fringe idea.

Christianity was weak and on the fringe during Roman paganism. As the power of Rome waned, Christianity came into power. Then Christianity was the oppressor to money (no usury), and profit was a fringe idea. Slowly, money and profit came to power.

There is no guarantee that Christianity will come to power after money falls - just like how there is no guarantee that paganism will return.

BUT IF YOU WANT CHRISTIANITY TO COME BACK, AND YOU CAN'T CONTROL THE COMMUNICATION LINES, THEN YOU HAVE TO WAIT TILL SOCIETY DECAYS, FALLS APART, AND THEN YOU HAVE TO BE IN CONTROL OF THE COMMUNICATION LINES TO REVIVE CHRISTIANITY.

When your entire scam is based on a bullshit story why are you wondering when someone exposes it for what it is?
Did you really though that you'll be able to keep your scam running forever?

That isn't really true, even back when the "Big Skeptic Atheists(tm)" were in their heyday, there were plenty of Christian churches, both Protestant and Catholic, which had their share of degeneracy or promotion of such.

Yeah I agree. I suppose there is unfortunately no course of action that will keep our culture around, other than chaos and violence. I appreciate the well worded response, apart from the reddit spacing :^)

The biggest scam of atheism is that rebelling against the religion would make life feel better not believing it, and that undermining one of the principal pillars of Western culture is a good thing.

>80% of Americans have European heritage.
12,2 are african
12,5 are hispanic
need i go on

>I appreciate the well worded response, apart from the reddit spacing :^)
I was using reddit spacing before all the t_Donald fags came here like locusts. I use the spacing to separate ideas - which would otherwise be hard to consume if bundled together in one paragraph.

Because Atheism is easy and validates their degeneracy.

"Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it."

Strive for the narrow gate and pray for those who are lost.

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>one of the principal pillars of Western culture
Since when is the greco-roman civilization at the core of your semitic scam?

>80% of Americans have European heritage.
>12,2 are african
Yes
>12,5 are hispanic
Who are mixed with anglos, germans, aztecs, spanish, Portuguese
>need i go on
Won't change the fact that you're a fagget.

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Your religion would've been fine if it didn't align itself with the TRUE reality of the world, if it had been constructed as a spiritual guidance for humans and not attempt to explain the reality of the universe through magic like it obviously does

Ofc enforcing monogamy and slutshaming is good for society at large, ofc society needs objective moral principles to maintain itself, what we never needed was a stop on scientific development and for big sky daddy to try and explain everything.

This can all be atributed to corruption in the power structure that was the church who had much to profit if it convinced the population at large that the truth of the world could be explained by the "word of god"

>defending you spacing

You sir are an idiot

Much like everything ruined in the west; Africanization.

Christianity offers nothing exclusive, it isn't "yours" it has no value because you share it with billions and even worse because those billions are the most despicable, aggressive, smelly Afro-Ghoul communists literal Hell could possibly spawn.

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and all the asians are somehow also european.

>defending you spacing
>You sir are an idiot
Fancy coming from a fagget who used reddit spacing for that post. You're thirsty for (You)'s. Here, take another (You).

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t. Someone how knows nothing of elder religions

thank you

Christianity has inspired a sizable portion of the greatest works in Western architecture over the centuries. Not to mention all of the great additions to art that Christian stories and teachings inspired. It has definitely been one of the major foundations of the West's culture and thinking.

I can grant you that. Tell me more.

Read first 2 chapters of revelation: The doctrine of balaam, the synagogue of satan and the seduction of jezebel... If christianity is in decline where you are, it's because people were christian only in name

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It was not Christianity who lost.
The West is the one who lost.

>Christianity has inspired a sizable portion of the greatest works
that's just because of the massive amounts of people into Christianity.
if an equal amount of people would have followed tree-hugging for the same period of time it would have produced the same results.
its just people coming up with shit and perfecting it over time.

Atheists believe the universe is scientific. That means everything within the universe is observable. In other words, if we can't observe it, it doesn't exist.

Free will doesn't exist. No one is responsible for their actions. Objective morality doesn't exist. No one can truly say that any actions are good or bad because muh culture. There is no purpose to life, so do whatever you want. You don't answer to anyone.

Challenge them on this. When they tell you there is no evidence for God, ask them why they think the universe is scientific. It would be illogical to assume that just because we can observe something, we should be able to observe everything.

>and all the asians are somehow also european.
Man, if this wasn't a Saturday morning, I would have no patience for trolls like you. But it's Saturday. I know you're thirsty for (You)'s since you're arguing on a number that doesn't invalidate my point even if it was off. But it's always fun to put fags in their place on any day of the week. Nothing you do will ever change the fact you're a fag. Here, have another (You).
>Pic related.
>Whites - 76.6%
>Two or more races - 2.7%
>Total European heritage = 79.3% ~ 80%.
What now fag? Now that we know the number I quoted was off by less than 1%, what other argument do you have? Here, take another (You) and shove it up your butt since your partner doesn't give it to you rough these days.

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The Pope has an interesting complexion

Oy vey!

stop calling me a fag, i haven't come out of the closet yet.
nice fake statistic btw

Actually this is accurate.

"Morality" is a human construct, animals don't know it, neither do stars in the galaxy or the cosmos itself.

It's my opinion that Christianity is inseparable from the West, or at least it has been through the course of the last 1500 years or so.

That is true, but I'm not talking about abstracts but what has happened. Tree hugging wasn't part of the West's ideals, Christianity was.

>stop calling me a fag, i haven't come out of the closet yet.
>Pic related

>nice fake statistic btw
That is why I circled the url. Because I know you're an Arsehorle.

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Because people nowadays want to be "free"
>wtf, I can't participate in gay orgies while I snort some coke? This sucks.
Just because you could, doesn't mean you should.
Polish atheists are good example of how they still have childish mentality.
>fuck your values and those who you respect!
>Don't like my opinion? Sounds like someone is butthurt!
Thankfully I will most likely die before the last church will be deconstructed.

fair enough user. and western moral defo originate in Christianity. even atheists have christian morals and values, probably without knowing it.

Yes, the European ideal only exists because of Christianity. Without it it can't be called that because what remains is just a chaotic mess.

This isn't fully true. Social animals know that it is bad to eat the spawn of the herd unless some situations outweighs that directive. Is that not morals? Dogs can be trained to not shit on the floor, and they will feel bad and try to hide it if they have to do that.

>Official census
>Fake statistic
Nigger what?

>you're an Arsehorle.
you seem to get upset in an increasing manner, take 5 user, i don't think Jow Forums is particularly good for you.

Because pope mostly admiring people who believe in CGI, chroma key, and symbol. They are limited but IMPORTANT people! wtf....

Photoshop user.

It started in 60's with cultural revolution.

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Priests couldnt keep their penises in their pants and were fiddling kids left and right.

Also people got smarter and started asking questions like how did Jesus resurrect and walk on water, but ever since all he can do is appear on toasts and kettles?

Go on the census site right now and find where there is a difference between what user posted and what the site says.

papiesz thread?

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This is Real Newfag Hours posting, but I really don't think atheists are indeed unaware that it is only Christian values that allow the very existence of their ideology.

o kurwa papaj in maj tred????!?!?!?

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Because the Church scandals were poorly handled and covered extensively by the media and of course hedonism and the church changing to be more populist and tolerant

When it comes to religions, it's ultimately either all of it or non of it. If it's OK to question and ignore some parts of it, it will all go down the drain eventually. I don't think I can ever be a Christian, would feel hypocritical to claim to be one while I can't absolutely believe in all of it. Religions aren't half-way things.

Shit boi, what you flying? I’m going out for my solo today

Zbazowany rodak

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_revolution

60's

Free love
Explicit sex on screen and stage
Normalization of pornography
Premarital sex
Politics of sex
Homo rights
liberalisation of divorces
etc.

This was the point when christianity started to lose badly

Why?
there are many reason:

Soviet funded marxist agenda in the west
lefites intelectuals of frankfurt scholl
good-being of the society in general
mass media
commie jews comming to the positions of power (Culture of critique)
Withdraw of christians (Vaticanum II etc.)

Just read this book

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Because the Leftist critique of Christianity that it fell impossibly short of its ideals is mostly correct.

The problem is that the Lefties don't have anything good to replace it with.

BTW

If anyone saw the Shapiro/Peterson discussion on the Reuben Report, there whole talk about the Judeo-Christian schtick made me laugh. Jews and Christians have had an awfully antagonistic (not to mention) violent history.

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>you seem to get upset in an increasing manner, take 5 user, i don't think Jow Forums is particularly good for you.
>Take another (You)

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A można jak najbardziej

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I am a Christian myself (not Catholic), and the ministers and most Christians have no philosophical thought in their worship, and would rather just dick-suck god and ask him for shit. To fully understand Christ is not to play shitty Christian pop and say "drugs are bad mkay", and expect young people to flock to the sacrifice of Jesus Christ. Atheism is so fucking basic, more than Christianity, yet has more though put into it by its believers(or unbelievers) because of how outdated Christian thought is.

The Bible is so rich with metaphors and stories, which have meaningful lessons in them, yet people see it as "LOL LOOK AT THESE STORIES OF CHRISTIANS WRECKING THESE POLY FAGS (AND LATER JEWS)!!!" The only story from the Bible that is true is, of course, the story(s) of Jesus Christ. Jews weren't in Egypt and god didn't kill a bunch of people for being a little raunchy. All the story's are all simple ways to teach lessons and Morales, with Jesus, the perfect person, being sen't here to die for all the degeneracy we previously, and still do cause.

Now with all the major messages about kindness and empathy, Christfags still spout the same shit about "sex outside of marriage" and "drug use", all being little beliefs snuck in by the people who wrote all the philosophical and metaphorical stories, NOT THE REAL OR AT THE VERY LEAST MAJOR WORDS OF JESUS CHRIST. I even agree with most of these small messages, but its all sig, and has nothing to do with Jesus, and will make young people stray away from Christianity.

TL;DR : Christfags focus on shit nobody cares about.

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>Why did Christianity lose to Atheism
Because of Young-Earth Creationist Evangelist retards from the South and liberal "Christians" both making Christianity look bad

How do you think that this could be reconciled? I do not think that a good portion of Christians would be able to agree that most of the book is actually just fake stories. This would just create a new schism akin to Orthodox Christianity and Christianity. Also, how would it be possible to spin Jesus' teachings to shun degenerate actions of today and maintain communities and nationalism?

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Fucking based

Quite literally because you touch yourself at night fucking degenerates.

Atheists have less children. Checkmate.

Also, Atheism is losing to Paganism/Pagan Reconstructionism/Occultism because of Movement Atheism and the basedboys in it

Must listen to celebrities! They've been busy with a gym and still know everything about the planet! Smart people! You people don't make enough dollars!

In my perspective as an atheist and a former Christian/Catholic devout, they lost because their churches, preachers/priests, and their system as a whole werent consistent.

The values they are teaching are good but fuck them with their one sided opinions and their use of the religion to make themselves correct to any arguments. Im pointing to some of those christians.

I'd disagree. Sorry to do some ecelebfagging, but look at the communicative power of Based Black Science man and atheist Youtubers for example. I haven't heard of one example of an influencer/ content creator espousing Pagan views except Varg.

Do you have proof of this claim?

believe in god not in bullshit religions. Ok?

All things run their course.There is really no reason to believe that few thousand years of Christianity would last forever on old writings and tradition alone.

because this is what the typical Catholic is like nowadays.

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Everything dies

youtube.com/watch?v=S0C1p5pL01I

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When the Pope calls, my honor is to post cenzopapa.

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>Now with all the major messages about kindness and empathy, Christfags still spout the same shit about "sex outside of marriage" and "drug use", all being little beliefs snuck in by the people who wrote all the philosophical and metaphorical stories,
> How do you think that this could be reconciled? I do not think that a good portion of Christians would be able to agree that most of the book is actually just fake stories

A way to fix this is by not making Christianity a "enemy" of our society. Most churches judge and want their members to "leave worldly pleasures" which is hindrance to the goal. The goal is to get society back in par with the church. Not separate the two. Not shun one. But to merge both. The bible contradicts itself already and people believe it. With good evidence against the notion that these tales are "real" and not example requires people to know what "faith" and logical thinking is. For example even if the bible contradicts itself and you show it to a church. The church members will simply say that they "Have faith" that said contradiction is not true. Even though the scripture says it. If we look at things logically with historical evidence we would have the key to reestablishing christianity. If we stopped shunning the "world" we would logically get more appeal from people of the "world". Just my 2 cents.

Lmao it didn't you dumb nigger