Every time I go to a Christian church I just feel ridiculous. Most of people there just seem unironically retarded. It feels like they and I both know it's a cult but they are willing to ignore it because they are desperate for some kind of meaning in their life. I only have ever gone to Protestant churches, the typical American church where some 13 year old kid is playing an electric guitar on stage. It's usually 30 minutes of singing songs that are cringy, the audio sucks, it doesn't make me feel spiritual or well at all. It makes me feel like someone just put on a child's tv show. Every time I think about Jesus the only thing that goes through my mind is how small the loincloth is they put on him when he was being crucified. They always spend so much time on his abs and muscles, he's always in some state of being bloody, crying, all sweaty and dirty. I think about that and then some soft spoken ex drug addict priest tells me in a creepy voice that this sweaty, bloody, homoerotic figure loves me and died for my sins. I want to believe so bad, but all these feelings I have just leave a bitter taste in my mouth. I have read the entire Bible. I always feel much closer to God when I'm alone reading the Bible and contemplating it by myself. I'm worried that the primary reason Christianity is dying in the West is because of the pathetic state the churches are in. I'm unironically thinking of turning to Orthodox because Catholicism doesn't give me this feeling but there are.....other...problems with that Church.
Help me be Christian
He looks unironically like a tranny
You are quite right the modern church is almost without exception a piece of shit.
Inhabited mostly by second-raters who don't believe any of the stuff they're saying.
Once, it was the best people in the society, and they DID believe.
Try to go to a proper cathedral (Chartres or Westminster Abbey or something) and just stand in the middle of it and you'll find it works. Good architecture works. Similarly, good music works. Listen to the Beethoven Missa Solemnis and actually concentrate on it.
That's the difference.
I think a large number of sensible people are in your position - they see the objective benefits of a strong faith but they find it impossible to take the whole business seriously - at least, as it's presented these days.
>I'm worried that the primary reason Christianity is dying in the West is because of the pathetic state the churches are in.
Seems like you've been to Methodist, Episcopalian churches, which are very similar to the Swedish Church which is a very Satanic and evil "church".
You should go to no-bullshit churches that just openly preach the Bible and don't give a crap about being politically correct and "tolerant". Go to an Independent Fundamental Baptist church.
Or watch sermons online to learn more.
every modern church is a surrogate group and therefor a massive waste of your time.
Sometimes I like to go to the shore, I wouldn't call it a beach, too violent seas. I just stand there and look out into the ocean and listen to this.
youtube.com
I've felt closer to God doing this than any church I have ever been in.
that neckline is so slutty
That's a good thing.
>They always spend so much time on his abs and muscles, he's always in some state of being bloody, crying, all sweaty and dirty. I think about that and then some soft spoken ex drug addict priest tells me in a creepy voice that this sweaty, bloody, homoerotic figure loves me and died for my sins. I want to believe so bad, but all these feelings I have just leave a bitter taste in my mouth.
These images you have in your head come from Catholic depictions of Jesus. The Bible teaches that we should not make any images of Jesus, and it also teaches in the Old Testament that the Savior was not beautiful to look at, or something like that. There is no direct description of how Jesus looked, and that's very intentional. Just try to block out those Catholic images in your head.
We also know with certainty that Jesus had short hair.
No need to thank me.
>Jesus
stolen from pagan deities
>Great Flood
stolen from Gilgamesh
>Ten commandments
Stolen from Hammurabi Code
>Easter
Stolen from Eastre and Astarte
>Christmas
Stolen from Yule and Saturnalia
>silly goy, it's just a coincidence
>just remember, goy, that Jesus is the truth
Matthew 10: 34-36
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father and the daughter against her mother and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
Christians don't even know what a soul is.
Christianity is a lie and christians are brainwashed ignorants, subhuman NPCs. That's a fact.
Christianity is jewized Paganism.
Christianity is Communism for believers.
Christianity is shit.
Have a decent day.
Do you have any opinions on the apocrypha texts like the Book of Enoch, or the Gospel of Mary Magdalene?
I go to church almost every week. I go to a Roman Catholic Church. You are completely right about their **own issues** but at the same time the actual mass or services is much more satisfying. It is very formal and traditional and I have never seen an acoustic guitar there.
Shepherd's Chapel
don't listen to the boring young guy, listen to the older guy
he preaches constantly about the JQ, but he calls them 'kenites' instead of 'kikes'
he's fairly knowledgeable about the bible, and his portrayal of God is rational, gentle, and pro-white
All of those apocryphal books are not part of the Bible. People like to think that there's some sort of mysterious "lost book", but the Bible teaches that God's word would be preserved "from this generation forever", so God's word must have been perfectly preserved, accessible and in circulation forever; this means that all of those apocryphal books are just fake books written by imposters and what not.
And second of all, you just need to read these books to see how garbage they are. When you read the real Bible, you realize how powerful and forceful it is. When you read apocryphal book, you don't get this feeling.
Christ opened the line for you to talk directly to God. Christ's words in the Bible are unapologetically true, you can deduce this if you read them yourselves.
Churches are primarily weekly clubs for people to get together and identify with one another so they feel comfortable. You don't need a building to be Christian, if you and another person speak in Christ's name then Christ is with you. Christ is actually the King of Kings, his words that we have left are logical. Seek truth, and your reward shall be truth.
I guess the Romans were fake ass negroes since they stole Helenistic culture then...
Between 0AD-1000AD there were 200+ Orthodox English Saints. Had no idea.
Got an Orthodox Study Bible on Black Friday for £20.
I know how you feel I've been to about a dozen Protestant churches in my lifetime and they all except for one or two sucked. You've either got feel good Jesus is my best friend types who have fake smiles which look like they are pumped up with anti-depressants or you've got a boring congregation filled with old farts who stampede out the door once the sermon is over. But by far I've found Orthodox churches to be the best I've seen an icons of Jesus dressed in lamellar armor clutching a spear instead of all these weird peach cheeked statues of saints and surfer-bro jesus you see in Catholic churches.
Orthodox or Catholicism are both fine. If you go Orthodox you're opting into assimilating into eastern culture as Greek / Russian culture comes with the Orthodox territory. Avoid most protestant churches at all cost they are beyond pozzed. Any church with female pastors / accepting of gay is pure heresy and is useless for developing your faith.
I understand all of these things, which makes my predicament that much more difficult for me to work out. Learning about all these things creates quite the challenge for Christians because the arguments are no longer if God exists, but that all their traditions and holidays were usurped and stolen. You can no longer make the "just have faith" argument. I am one of those people who believes that spirituality is like water for a human soul and that the dogmatic beliefs and customs matter less than the feeling of knowing that there was a creator of the universe. If the truth is that our old religions are gone and destroyed, and replaced with idols and makeshift texts then truly we are lost, atheism will consume us and all it's decadence will rot our society from the inside until it's too late. I find some comfort in the idea of taking the lie of Christianity draped over us and adopting it unironically, putting my own context into it, using it for my own means. The Bible is a book of parables easily forged into whatever message you see fit, the Church has no authority to tell me what any of it means. The Knights Templar were not even Christians, they were Viking warriors who discovered they could make more gold and riches in the employment of European kings than raiding and fighting them. When they adopted Christianity, they did so in the mind of a warrior, not a complacent dreary tired soul waiting for the after life. Have a decent day.
I'd consolidate your thoughts on apocrypha, that it's not that they were written by fake imposters or what not, it's that the books themselves deal with very mythical subjects that have little to no effect on God's message of peace, justice and grace. It's kind of amazing that those who compiled the Bible were wise enough to reject apocrypha for something more fundamental in God's truth.
With this resource you can read a comprehensive, condensed, and doctrinally-sound version of the entire Bible in 1(one) day. Yes, you can have a general understanding of the entire Bible story in 1 day.
>Old Testament:
kids.christiansunite.com
>New Testament 1
kids.christiansunite.com
>New Testament 2
kids.christiansunite.com
Other notable points:
-Research what's known as "NWO Bibles", and the argument for King James Only. (Kent Hovind and Steven Anderson provide great info)
-Look into Pastor Texe Marrs to satisfy your conspiracy theory itches.
-Key points of a proper church/denomination:
>Once Saved Always Saved
>Salvation = Grace through FAITH ALONE
>Jesus is the Son of God, and is God
Why did you pick Christianity?
That's a very weak way of looking at faith in general.
You just need to rape some children like all your spiritual leaders do.
Christianity, the religion of pedophiles
>Kent Hovind
>Steven Anderson
Literal retards.
Ain't it ironic that instead of accepting Ortodoxy, the most socialist-seeming doctrine of Christianity, communism tried to obliterate it.
You don't seem to understand how the Bible was formed. The early Christians had no Bible, all they had were the apocryphal texts, everything was an apocryphal text. The Catholic church, very early in it's existence, created the idea of the holy trinity and at the Council of Nicaea brought all those texts before them and over the span of a few hundred years they rejected some of the books and accepted other books. Nobody knows what their arguments were for doing so. Nobody at the time had the authority to say what the holistic story of Christ and God should be. They simply created it, and knowing the Catholic church they probably did so at their own benefit. It must be nice to simply gloss over these facts and be comforted by the idea there is a definitive book called the Bible that outlines your beliefs but it simply isn't true.
>>God's message of peace, justice and grace
watch out for nutters like this
those things are only a small part of what God said
the major points of the bible are:
-God is good, you aren't
-He kept all his promises
-Satan is causing trouble
-Jews are lying about who they are, they are not the chosen people
-God has solved everything through his only begotten son, but you have to accept what hes done
-God is going to smite idolatry in the most brutal manner possible, by allowing the entire world to worship Satan when he appears, pretending to be Christ
'being a good person' is largely irrelevant to the contents of the bible, even the 'saints' are called the 'Zadok,' which means, 'the justified,' not 'the just.'
>not realising GOD probably communicated with previous generations aswell
Or some of the books showed that Jesus had a wife and this created problems for the clergy? You attribute divine wisdom to people when more carnal pleasures easily explain them.
>probably
>Nobody knows what their arguments were for doing so
There's no mystery.
Why do you think the books are separated into categories by subject than chronology?
The Bible is supposed to be the purest from of God's message put to text.
Why do you think most doctrines didn't put apocrypha back into their Bibles like the Orts, Cats and Prots do separately?
It's because apocrypha doesn't and shouldn't matter for its overly gnostic bullshit.
You believe in a non-literal Bible story? Who is Adam to you? When a child is told something, they believe it for a season, and those who come along and announce conjecture as truth are cursed.
So you just reaffirmed what I said after calling me crazy?
>overly gnostic bullshit.
Have you even ever read the Book of Revelations? They picked and chose what books were in the Bible for reasons you cannot explain, there was nothing God himself said that claimed they had the authority to do this and the Catholic church right now is raping kids left and right. You believe what you want but I'm not falling for it.
Adam was the man created after the 7th day of rest
Adam was the first Caucasian, although that word didn't exist yet
unlike the man created on the 6th day, he was 'the man' rather 'man,' and it was through his bloodline that God himself was going to enter the flesh age
If you'd look into "those books", you'll see that it's just one "book" supossedly discovered by a woman who was caught faking artifacts before. Not only that, but the source for Jesus having a wife bullshit is just a poor fake made identically to another fake by the very same people.
Do your research.
But that's just flat out wrong. They had access to the entire Old Testament, and what was being written in epistles by Paul was being preached all across the region to the very early churches. The gospel was being preached. Of course they didn't have access to mass-produced copies of the New Testament or to New Testament books not yet penned down, but Christians back then had full access to God's word, even though it is much more accessible to us in the modern day. Of course there were cults and false books circulating in various churches, which is why Paul went around rebuking people for listening to anti-Christs and teaching false doctrines.
We know exactly why these specific Bible books became canonical: because God promised he would preserve them. He obviously used the most powerful instrument to do this: Rome, who had almost all the power and authority and resources to mass produce Bibles and spread information.
You can just flat out deny the Bible if you want to. I'm just telling you that Biblically speaking, the Bible contains perfect truth and we can either accept it or ignore it.
That's because there can only be one Government, and he is a jealous Government.
you may not have done it intentionally, but you lied about God's message, he said nor implied any such thing as peace, justice, or grace
he promised the opposite of those things to the entire world in fact, with only the ones he chooses escaping, in part
And you honestly believed God defied the law of the universe that he himself established to make the world in a week and then tore out Adam's rib to make him a woman that'd betray him?
If you do, your're deluded and it's no wonder you follow outright morons like Hovind and Anderson.
Next thing you'll tell me that creationism has any basis and that the Earth is flat.
Kent and Steven are right about almost everything. Stop being stupid here.
the word rib doesn't appear in the text
the correct translation is 'curve' which we now know to be the DNA
no doubt the original writers thought it referred to her 'curviness,' but I'm just guessing
Doesn't really matter since the Catholic doctrine of "priests" not being allowed to marry is completely pagan and unbiblical. The Bible teaches that pastors, bishops and elders are REQUIRED to be married with kids to have that authority.
I'd wife up a woman like that
I'm not necessarily saying that the books in the Bible are wrong, I'm saying that the rejected ones are not heresy and they add more context to the entire story than what the crooked, corrupt homosexual Catholic church told you, and that to ignore them and cast them aside as worthless gnostic bullshit is a fatal mistake. You're already in too deep though, they've already convinced you their book is eternal and anything else is forbidden. You already swallowed it whole and won't go back, so just ignore me. But there is something to be said that they didn't rationalize their reasons for killing people for reading the apocryphal texts, they simply beheaded them or burned them alive.
I'm sorry user.
If you can't grasp metaphor, it's literally impossible for me to teach you. You need to study the Book of Revelations on a broader spectrum that take it literally.
I can guarantee you that the Bible wasn't composed for fearmongering and awe, but of the purest form of theological understanding that was available.
You're retarded.
So you're telling me peace, justice and grace is not God's ultimate endgame?
This
christcukery is a sin against the mind. get rid of it
Watch the Church Militant YouTube channel, for Catholicism that does not fuck around.
Got me there, Mahmud.
user, I'm not even going to disagree with you, since neither of us know what really happened, but I have to note that you may be confused.
I'm trying to divorce you mentally from our understanding of the benevolent God who will fulfill his purposes (which include deriving pleasure from us) and what is actually written in the bible
people cannot consume and live off of good feelings
the actual words of God specify pain, torment, idolatry, shame, punishment, in a time still to come, followed by long-term separation from God after they worship antichrist
by consuming the actual word of God, the truth, they can prepare themselves for what God has already promised, which is not going to be pleasant
If they openly teach heresies that contradict the canonical Bible they need to be rejected. The Catholic church is the Whore of Babylon, and I'm not taking a word of my doctrine from them.
It is true that SOME of the apocryphal books quote things from the real Bible or teach things that are not on their face unbiblical, but to use them as any authority in matter of faith and practice is wrong. "Sola Scriptura" means "Scripture Alone".
>But there is something to be said that they didn't rationalize their reasons for killing people for reading the apocryphal texts, they simply beheaded them or burned them alive.
Yeah because the Catholic church is a Satanic death cult based on Babylonian paganism.
>You're already in too deep though, they've already convinced you their book is eternal and anything else is forbidden
Lol, I used to be a hat tipping atheist in my teens. The idea that people can't logically come to the truth of the Bible epistemologically or rationally is simply false yet you seem to believe so.
the word rib doesn't appear in the text concerning Eve's creation
by proving or disproving that statement, you will bring yourself closer to whatever the truth happens to be
my confusion is unrelated to that
God is not the author of confusion, and you're not allowed to arbitrarily claim the stories in the Bible are not true but just "metaphors" for whatever you wicked teachings are.
I think your divorcing your own understanding of God's grace and trying to marry yourself off to some proto-pagan understanding of some God of vengeance and blood lust.
If you're implying that I'm implying that there is no pain in the faith, I'm not implying that.
It's like fast food, it's everywhere and it's the same. Churches used to be unique, now they just regurgitate and mimic what the other churches are doing. No honesty in it anymore. Good for reading the bible, the important relationship is the direct one with God.
Paul didn't get married or have kids.
Are you the twitch guy irlpriest?
Are you literally retarded? What fucking bible are you reading that led you to believe this
we're trying to reach common ground I see, but I won't budge from what is actually written in the bible
faith doesn't magically make God's prophecies in Matthew 24, Mark 13, Revelation, and elsewhere from happening
faith or goodness will not stop those things from happening
Paul teaches that if you can not control your sexual desires, you need to get married. There's no requirement to get married in general, but if you want to have sex you have to. Paul also was not a pastor or a bishop.
And no, I'm not the Twitch priest. He's a Lutheran priest part of the Swedish Church, which I would never come within 10 feet of.
Try Latin mass
Are you part of any particular denomination? You seem to know your shit
user, the word rib is literally in genesis.
Unless you're talking about some mistranslation thing.
Either way, I personally don't believe it was a rib and I don't even buy into that Adam and Eve were real individuals, but represent a more pragmatic metaphor to all of humanity itself.
Actually I can. And God is the author of whatever he deems himself to be. Seems he confused you if you're taking his poetry literally.
Im reading it as its written
its amazing what you can learn once you flush the church down the toilet
mans creation is listed twice, that doesn't mean God is autistic, it means two types of people were created
another great example is 'thou shalt not commit adultery' and 'thou shalt not covet thy neighbors wife'
again, God is not a moron, he doesn't need to outlaw sleeping around twice, which is why adultery means the same thing it means in the dictionary, which is polluting your bloodline with other races
it literally means 'don't racemix' and churches have gotten it wrong for centuries
the jew doesn't want you to know
Thanks! I'm a baptist.
Forget the fundies and go to a real church.
Pic Related.
Anything else that's just poetry? Jesus dying on the cross? Walking on water?
Depends on where you place your faith.
Look at it this way, Jews had a thousand years give or take to prepare themselves for the Messiah. They wholeheartedly believed he'd come, but as a conquering warlord that'd take the world for them, even though Jews here the most shit followers of God with their idolatry and sinning.
And the the Messiah came as a carpenter from nowheresville to sacrifice himself instead of warmongering.
Weren't they surprised to find out they were wrong waiting for a 1000 years for something else.
Same thing with Biblical prophecies in the new testament. We literally can't know what God has truly in store for us, but can only strive to follow His ways as best we can and hope.
Bumping the correct response
Now you're just throwing pure hyperbole. Next thing you'll call me a heretic or something lol
But seriously, if you think all of the books in the Bible are of the same genre, I'm sorry, you're literally an idiot.
Quit going to foot-wash modern informal services. Go to an Episcopal or Catholic service. Religion practiced informally is no religion at all.
Just study the bible by yourself bro, avoid those mindless and cucked churches
I placed my faith in God, but for the sake of this discussion, that includes the absolute infallibility of the words of God as preserved through masoretic tradition (checksums to insure nothing ever changes)
the words of God are perfectly consistent internally, they don't disagree with each other on any point, and they have a kind of order which could not be attained by mortals
I don't think that. I think the poetry books that declare themselves to be poetry are poetry, and the books that declare themselves to be literal truth, to be literal truth. I'm also able to use common sense. When Revelation talks about a woman clothed in the sun, the moon under her feet and a crown of 12 stars, I also realize that this is symbolic or representative of something, and not a literal woman clothed in the sun.
This is the big problem with Orthodox and Catholic; anything fits as long as it suits their traditions. There's no continuity in their Biblical interpretation whatsoever.
> The Bible teaches that pastors, bishops and elders are REQUIRED to be married with kids to have that authority.
Where
>Went to a baptist church
>Hated it when I was a teen
>When I got older I realized that the church is filled with freemasons and the church has a freaky cult like vibe
>Want to get get back into church but every church seems cucked
Is it me or is it that when you see one freemason in a church, the church is cucked?
If you believe in the infallibility of the Bible, you should also believe that the preferred Bible you're reading in your language is 100% perfect. Whenever you appeal to the Greek or Hebrew, you are engaging in textual criticism, which is a New Age science meant to devalue the Bible as God's pure word.
read the nag hammadi scriptures OP, the Gnostics will help you understand
1 Timothy 3:2-5:
>A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
>Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;
>One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;
>(For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)
Same rule is then repeated in Titus 1:5-6:
>...ordain elders in every city, as I had appointed thee:
>If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly.
>For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not selfwilled, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre;
>But a lover of hospitality, a lover of good men, sober, just, holy, temperate;
Go orthodox or tradcath. Latin mass in a cathedral has awesome aesthetics. There is a ton of philosophy and all sorts of other books to read. Real high quality stuff, major thinkers on everything from art to politics or war. Give it a shot. You'll definitely come out wiser (from reading) and more cultured from the expirience of liturgy and architecture even if you end up not believing in God.
You aren’t ready to accept Jesus as your savior.
Liturgical services are the best for newcomers. They rely on hymns and traditions that most westerners will at least have some familiarity with. Unfortunately, a lot of churches have shifted to a contemporary service to cater to young people who grew up in church. Contemporary worship ends up being an obviously subpar, cultic, rock concert to those who didn’t grow up in church.
I recommend trying out a Liturgical LCMS service. LCMS is a theologically conservative Lutheran Church that often has both Contemporary and Liturgical service times.
The LCMS Church does believe in a literal reading of Genesis, but they don’t care that my fiancé and I believe in evolution.
This is not necessarily talking about the elder/pastors marital status it's talking about the person being blameless? but his moral and sexual purity. This qualification heads the lists, because it is in this area that leaders are most prone to fail. Some take the qualification for deacons “a deacon must be the husband of but one wife…” in 1 Timothy 3:12 as meaning that for a man to be a deacon, he must be married. That is not the meaning of “husband of one wife.” In the Greek, the phrase “husband of one wife” literally reads “one-woman man.” For a man to be considered for a position of church leadership, and he is married, he must be committed to his wife. This qualification is speaking of fidelity in marriage and sexual purity. It is not a requirement of marriage. If it were, a man would have to be married and also have children, because the second half of 1 Timothy 3:12 states, “…and must manage his children and his household well.” We should understand this qualification as: If a man is married, he must be faithful to his wife. If a man has children, he must manage them well.
A “one-woman man” is one totally devoted to his wife, maintaining singular devotion, affection and sexual purity in both thought and deed. To violate this is to forfeit blamelessness and no longer be “above reproach” (Titus 1:6,7). Being single is praised by the Apostle Paul as enabling more faithful service to the Lord (1 Corinthians 7:32-35). Why would Paul restrict men from church leadership positions when he believes “…an unmarried man is concerned about the Lord's affairs - how he can please the Lord” (1 Corinthians 7:32)? In the first nine verses of this chapter, Paul establishes that both marriage and singleness are good and right before the Lord.
well we found the kike
"stop learning goyim"
sorry I had moved on to another discussion
You cant "steal" culture you idiot, that's nigger tier thinking. People copy cultural memes from each other all the time as they come into contact. The Romans copied from neighbouring peoples everything they could so did others from them
>If you believe in the infallibility of the Bible, you should also believe that the preferred Bible you're reading in your language is 100% perfect.
So explain to me how modernized english versions of the bible contain translation issues that confuse the reader and could be a hinderance to their view of God? This is assuming every translation is perfect when they are not and there has been issues of the bible contradicting itself due to such issues. We are also assuming that the people of God knew what God was even talking about
Go to this monastery and ask to be put in silence for 7-10 days. Do confession after about 3-4 days of silence and then continue. Even if traditional Catholicism isn’t entirely your thing, it’s worth the time. Just go. papastronsay.com
That's simply not true, because in the 1 Timothy passage it ends by saying, "For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?". Clearly you need to have a wife, and children, to be a pastor.
I don't need anyone, least of all "the Greek", to explain to me what "A bishop MUST BE the husband of one wife" means. That's a pretty simple and straight-forward sentence.
> God is not beautiful to look at
> in the old testament
> unironically skipping psalms and claiming to know the bible
Ishygddt sven.
I assume only 1 translation is perfect for each language. In English it's the King James. A lot of writing has been done on New Age Bible versions, and many of the new translations like the NIV, the ESV, the NAS etc. are intentionally altered to confuse Christians and weaken doctrines.
You're not "learning" by claiming that the Bible is wrong and we have to go back to another language that no one speaks to understand it.
>Every time I go to a Christian church I just feel ridiculous. Most of people there just seem unironically retarded.
You should read the Screwtape Letters.
Huh? I would assume God the Father is beautiful to look at, but no one has lived and seen the Father. But the prophecy in the Old Testament says that the Messiah will not be beautiful to look at. I'm gonna try to find the exact passage.
>explain to me what "A bishop MUST BE the husband of one wife" means.
That is not straight-forward at all? It could implicate many things. It could imply what you've said or it could imply adultery or infidelity? A pastor with 10 wives is not "blameless".
>"For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?". Clearly you need to have a wife, and children, to be a pastor.
It's implying if said person was in a relationship and was disorganized? It's not something with a clear point if we're talking about being "blameless". Being unmarried is not a sin so in this context I'd have to disagree with you.
first you have to understand that both christianity and judaism are syncretisms of the various dominant cults of their times. they are not authentic religions. the bible was concocted at the council of nicea in 325 AD. you cannot make the mistake of taking any of it literally. that being said, it is very valuable information.
if you think christianity is a viable tool to unite white people, then by all means pursue that end. just be redpilled, and your goal should be to redpill as many christians in your church as possible and get into positions of power within the chruch
>Assumptions
the church is not christianity. the church is corrupted, full of people who have no idea what it is about, are supporting LGBT and feminism, are pedophiles and degenerates.
you don't need no fucking church to be christian
you don't need to go with these losers and to church or whatever the fuck they are doing in their mass and sermons
NO
you read the word of God, you pray and that's all you have to do. you don't need to leave home to do this.
most people are fucking stupid and church people are no exception to that.