Eradicating the Mexican Cartel Problem

Yeah I dunno get all the mexican in the commonwealth militaries and have them wreck shop with mexican military.. kill them all and restore gun rights so towns can be defended.

Give up the crutch or nothing will change. Ever.

The "cartels" are the government in Mexico. They are the politicians. The way forward is for Mexico to legitimize them as businessmen and quietly bury the butchers in the sand over the next 6 years. It is really that simple.

The US is already helping by ending the drug war. Cannibis first, psychedelics second, and opiates last. Substance regulation will upend the current mafia. This is what will enable Mexico to legitimize it's citizens and rid itself of the butchers needed as enforcers.

There is no one "Cartel". It is a multitude of organizations all working for varying interests, with varying means of control in the Mexican state. You cannot destroy the Cartels since the Cartels are practically intertwined in the state in a Federal capacity.

>Mexico needs the redpill to fix the cartel problem

GTFO burger, what we need is the US stop consuming all that shit and the DEA stop to being a corrupt organization.

Narco cartels will exist as long as the us and mexican government stop their corrupt shit.

Cute libshit meme

Its true through

The US will never stop consuming drugs when it has 50 million nogs and endless white trash

In Africa that's nothing unusual, just nigger genes in those Mexicans shining through.

what i hate the most about burgers in general is they always play the victim card. The drug problem is an issue that was created by the US and Mexican governments. And they pretexto to throw all that shit to us while consuming tons of snow every fucking year.

>Man gets beheaded with a rusty knife in Mexico
>Horrifying cartel violence
>Man gets beheaded with a rusty knife in Africa
>Lol niggers

>America plays the victim card
>drug problem is an issue

An example of blaming someone else for your own problems. US does its part securing its borders. Look at the message it's getting across. You can't just jump the border easily.

>An example of blaming someone else for your own problems
lol, get your shit together, mate. The drug problem is yours, not ours. All that shit is going in the northern states WHERE your country is incapable to stop.
So i’m gonna say this
>The DEA a corrupt organization
>The MEXICAN cartels are smarter than your government and that’s why you can’t stop them

get angry as you want, but those feral beaners are making money out of the weakness of your people.

Nobody noticing these Independence digits, WHAT THE FUCK? based and redpilled

Mexico does not want to end their only functioning enterprise. The cartels are subsidized, aided or encouraged by every single goblin constant and unwavering in their support, then they cry to the world how they are victims of the monster they all nurture.
Shitskins live off corruption and get gibs for being victims, they'll always have a cartel in some form or another. Kill these and they'll just create more. They're not victims of their own culture and way of life, the choose this.

First of all, I don't care for the drug problem in the states. As a matter of fact, it's China that's supplying the worst of the problem.

Mexican government and cartels have been involved killing innocent civilians, journalists, politicians, and anybody in Mexico at the wrong place and time.
This is Mexico's problem. Not the US. I'm only trying to help you solve the problem, but if all you're going to do is throw a fit about another country, then so be it. Let the cartels run the country.

No it isn't. The military is part of the problem as it is bribed by the narcos. The solution is for mutts to stop consuming so many fucking drugs.

Yeah, there has to be a literal revolution for change to ever occur. It might be possible for complete political purge, but this is unlikely to be very effective. You can kill almost every cockroach, but there's always one asshole still alive.

That's why a military revolution will fix the problem. The drug problem in the US is as bad as any other Western country's drug problem.
The US is securing its border to secure the nation. Mexico will have to change the way it governs and the way it runs its military, federal security, and police. Cartels have been bribing corrupt politicians and government leaders, including the military, and the Mexican government thinks it can control the cartels by taking the bribes and playing their game. As you can see, this was a huge mistake, and now the cartels run Mexican government.

Have there actually been effective military revolutions in the modern era? Is there any efficacy behind it besides installing a dictator or pseudo-dictator? Mexico is a huge shit show. I wish it could be as prosperous as it has or had the potential to be.

you can only eradicate the cartel problem by eradicating spics

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But this will lead to more kidnappings and extortion. Drugs only make 25 percent of the cartel income. They are invoke in human trafficking as well

KEK, damage control poorly executed. You burgers always run when they have to decide if the DEA is corrupt or not.

There's literally only one place to buy legal guns in Mexico and it is extremely difficult to get approved.

>It’s too late for Mexico without completely removing everyone from power
we can sandbag them with policy, eliminate our farm subsidies

Every country has its own problems. Mexico has a cartel problem. This is the issue.

The cartel problem exists, because there is a demand, you fag.

Stop being drugloving CIA fags

So now mexicans are all ancaps?
Do you just say, to your corruption problem, that there is a demand for it?

>there is demand for drugs in the USA, the opportunity cost outweighs the legality.

A supplier was created, to meet the demand of illicit substances that the USA.

Cartel will only cease once the demand for the illicit substances ends.

Or if the product is no longer created. Demand does not exist in a vacuum, its created and destroyed.

Mexican military is notorious for being the one part of the mexican goverment that isn't corrupted by narcos.

What aspects of Cartel business are in any way legitmate? They run warehouses, transport networks, timber operations, etc. Help them bring some of that into the open.

>product is no longer created
That's a LOT of interdiction, never mind anybody with a slight interest in chemistry can make all sorts of drugs

>I'm from America and I'm here to help
The sounds that precede the collapse of a nation desu

>That's why a military revolution will fix the problem
Firstly it's called a coup, and the Mexican military is largely bought and sold by cartels. Los Zetas are former mexican special forces who became cartel enforcers because the cartel paid more, they then took over from the Cartel. The Sinaloa cartel also had its own group of former mexican army commandos as enforcers. The cartels simply pay too much money and the political corruption is that endemic in Mexico that those good cops or soldiers are either sent off somewhere where they can't be a problem, or they're killed. I think the only exception to this is the Mexican Marines / navy. It isn't like in Brazil where the police are firmly locked in a war against the gangs, the gangs in brazil are also a lot poorer. Colombia also still had the remnants of a military aristocracy that was moral af and wanted to eradicate the cartels and also the reds.

The US is still a major cause for the cartels existing because they would always turn a blind eye towards the tame ones, and would facilitate them taking over from more wild ones. The DEA tolerated the existence of the Guadalajara cartel until it got into cocaine even though Gallardo was making hundreds of millions smuggling dude weed into the US because the US was too preoccupied with pablo escobar and later the cali cartel. Hell, the US worked with the cali cartel and other colombian cartels when they were fighting esocbar because Cali and others weren't as batshit crazy as Escobar.

You're also forgetting the gun running scandal where the ATF was quite literally giving guns to the cartels to track them as they came back into the US or whatever to see where all the violence was actually coming from, a programme which led to the deaths of innocent people on both sides of the border that the ATF in collaboration with the DEA accepted as a reasonable loss.

Why the fuck do lolbergs think that legalising dudeweed and all the drugs on both sides of the border will stop the cartels or make them into legitimate businessmen who will suddenly put down their machetes and start filing annual reports with the tax office?

Do you really think these organisations which basically function as non-state actors will willingly cede their market share to "legitimate businessmen" when it is probably far easier for them to just maintain their current infrastructure and system with violence? Plus, when the government slaps taxes onto drugs the cartels can continue to operate as the tax-free black market.

Even then, lets say legalisation does make the cartels as they operate in the US as legitimate and they stop being violent in order to protect their market share, it doesn't change a single thing south of the border and, if anything will just embolden the cartels since they won't have to worry about the DEA and other US law enforcement agencies cracking down on them. That, and the cartels can always find other markets, they have pipelines of drugs into Europe and Australia now too. Once the police here cracked down on the biker gangs and locked them all up, that opened up the space for the south american gangs to come over. They also have increasingly large infrastructure in West Africa, primarily for production, money laundering and as a pipeline into Europe.

At the end of the day the cartels are just feudal lords that continue the system of the latifundia/hacienda system that the spanish brought over with them; they own the land and usually pay for the town and employ just about everyone either directly or indirectly and maintain this power through violence and paying off the government. Just like the feudal lords in days of old.

The only thing in recent years that has stood a chance towards ending this system was the Autodefensas but they got hamstrung by the fact that the mexican government shits bricks at the idea of the mexican citizenry having guns and taking on the cartels because they know that once they finish off the cartels and the corrupt government they'll march on DF and lynch all the politicians for creating the shitshow that is mexico. Mexico won't be able to fix itself through a military coup because there aren't enough corrupt-free cops or army officers, but a coalition of the good soldiers and cops with groups with the Autodefensas could absolutely change the status quo through a lot of bloodletting. Sadly, I don't see that happening any time soon since the secret alliance between the cartels, mexican, and US government would shut that shit down right quick.

Can’t fix the Mexican cartel problem until you deal with the people benefiting offf importing cocaine into NA to further degenerate it

Based and redpilled mexibro

Average people can't jump the border easily. Drug lords have open doors.

That's like saying japan had a warlord problem in the 1800s. These guys are the LAW. WHile they can be brutal they can be generous and have lots of people like them.

The cartels were strengthened by the US gov. They wanted to decentralize the Mexican gov. It failed. Cartels would much rather be Mexican so the weapons were used to fight other cartels and AVOID mexican law enforcement.

>It’s too late for Mexico without completely removing everyone from power and then starting over and even then you’re likely to end up with the same problem since the cartels would just reinfiltrate as you rebuild.

It would be better to just eradicate every male in Central and South America, as well as every female over the age of 30, then allow white Americans to develop and settle the land. This would solve so many problems.

The cartels are the result of an American drug problem.

Mexico needs to allow their citizens to own weapons. Also legalizing harder drugs would downright undermine the cartels. The money is all in the illegality of the drugs in the U.S. nobody makes money off weed, it's all coke and heroin now.

The only other option is outright capital punishment for drug distribution. I say this as a white American who is married to a Mexican woman(like a real Mexican, one that would be disowned by her family if we divorced). I care about Mexico, if we want them to stop overrunning white american culture, we need to keep them there. To do that, we need to help improve Mexico. Open carry laws. De-Legalization of drugs here.

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The US does what it can to help improve Mexico, but the problem lies with the "corruption" of Mexico's enforcers. I put corruption in quotations because bribery is a way to survive, make a living, make a name for oneself. It also keeps the Mexican military in power by controlling the cartels, but that has backfired immensely as Mexico is in an unending perpetual civil war.
The best thing Mexico can do is revolt against the government norms. Would you live a lifetime on your knees, or would you rather die standing?

theguardian.com/world/2018/feb/10/mexico-drug-cartels-soldiers-military

need a source there, paco
if we employ of the philosophical principle, Occam's Razor, wouldn't it seem simpler that Cartel's rose to the top as a result of poverty, lack of education, and tribalist natures? Combined with the government's own softness, would that not create the perfect environment for these malicious groups to propagate?

>slippery slope fallacy

This.

Annex and genocide.

The only non meme answer is listen to the lolbergs. Decriminalization will absolutely BTFO cartel market shares everywhere except border states. Use the tax money to build the Wall and more border security, then the underground drug market dries up.

Mexico is way too fucked.

Eradicating cartels would need to happen throughout all of Latin America simultaneously. Their reach spans all across Central America and probably throughout South America and North America too. There would almost need to be a joint operation between the two to wipe out ALL the cartels, their families, and any politicians/military officials involved with them. This could be done by drone strikes and special operations.

> Cartels were created and are operated by the CIA.
Where's your source for this statement?

China has got its hands all over the illegal and pharmaceutical drug markets. Asian countries will also have to deal with China, Vietnam, Afghanistan and North Korea for their opiates.

Basically it's WW3.

shitty image with no sources kys

Decriminalization is a cowardly move and will result in the hippification of the states. The only correct move here is to instill a revolt or a junta to remove the current federales, police, and military. Make a total reform of Mexico's government.

>Decriminalization is a cowardly move and will result in the hippification of the states.

I am continually baffled by this argument.