Fairness

Why does basic fairness and equality piss Jow Forums so off?

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True equality hasn't been tried, what we have now is inequality dressed in a clown costume.

Because it’s bullshit, equality is a mathematical concept. Equality can’t be applied to humans.

Shut the fuck up both of you.
Equality is a false god made up by those who cannot see their own inferiority.
Nothing is fair, nothing is equal and any body who tries to attempt to circumvent basic nature will end up making things worse.
By nature women are inferior to men.
By nature short people are inferior to tall people.
By nature stupid people are inferior to smart people.
Anyone who tries to tell you otherwise is either deluded or lying.

Equality doesn’t exist faggot and is anathema to truth. Nobody is equal. Pragmatism reigns supreme. Equality hampers economic efficiency and kills societies. There is a distribution to all human traits and certain people make vastly better choices and are more productive than others.

Efficient people should not be punished and ineffficient people should not be subsidized.

> fair
> fairness
explain to me these meme tier words.
What is fair and why is something fair?

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True equality cannot exist.

You can't make people equal because humans naturally separate people into different groups.

Even the most PC liberal preaching equality for all will talk about "right-wingers" as if they were a vile race of subhumans.

Equality is a useless notion. It only breeds mediocrity and envy.

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>Why does basic fairness and equality piss Jow Forums so off?

Because they veiw themselves as superior while being vastly genetically inferior. Even the thought of helping the less fortunate triggers a literal survival mechanism. Can’t wait to literally slaughter these beta male fat fucks in the next civil war.

>equality is a mathematical concept. Equality can’t be applied to humans
It can but it will require a radical restructuring of human society and it's inherent value system.
>Equality doesn’t exist faggot and is anathema to truth
What truth?
>Pragmatism reigns supreme. Equality hampers economic efficiency and kills societies. There is a distribution to all human traits and certain people make vastly better choices and are more productive than others.
This is because society and civilization's roots are old and withered.
>Efficient people should not be punished and ineffficient people should not be subsidized.
This will never happen in a equal and fair society.
>What is fair and why is something fair?
Fairness is the measurement and acknowledgement of a persons, worth, contribution and role in a society proportionate to another person's.

They don't. Jews try to say things that are unequal by nature are actually equal. Then they use their political power to force laws on us to try and equalize the outcomes of these unequal things.

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what with your nerf dildo cannon? You're in the citiy anyways good luck trying to escape with the hordes of violent looting spics and niggers.

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Envy from those who can't experience it because they're not compatible because they'd rather subvert it entirely to their own benefit rather than share it with the collective.

e.g Those syrian "migrants" heading for Germany. Wouldn't you say they're envious and want a all the benefits of the false equality while leaving out the negative/payback? Obviously, that's why borders existed.

equality doesnt piss /pol off, fellow 4channeler

Its equity

>Wouldn't you say they're envious and want a all the benefits of the false equality while leaving out the negative/payback?

Absolutely, and they feel they are entitled to it because they have less. The problem is that they will fuck up a decent standard of living in the process.

It can and maybe someday it will.

>It can but it will require a radical restructuring of human society and it's inherent value system.
Kikes already tried this and it killed 90 million people you retard

Nope. Are you young ?

Because they're memeing teenagers who don't understand or care about even the most basic concepts of political theory.

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When the ref makes a tough call against your team, it's not fair. Equality is a lie.

Equality is a false god, why niggers should be equal to me or why I should be held down to niggers' level?
Equality of outcome is shit

> the measurement
what is the measuring indicator then? How is it quantised?
> and acknowledgement of a persons, worth, contribution and role in a society
we have laws & criminal courts for this
> proportionate to another person's
this come right back to my first question: how is it measured and how is it quantised?
Why are those measuring parameters morally correct ones?

>The problem is that they will fuck up a decent standard of living in the process.
Exactly. In a true fair and equal society they will not be accepted because their value system is inherently against fairness because they have less. They're not part of the true collective and will not be unless they chose to change their own values which they most certainly will not.

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>kikes already tried this
Wow, so I guess when the most unequal and unfair people in the word, engineer a political system to subvert other nations under the form of equality it's suddenly an impossible concept and always doomed to fall or regress into a nihilistic society with no inherent values? That's sarcasm btw.

*world

> They're not part of the true collective and will not be unless they chose to change their own value
How is this "fair" in your standards?
Why should they be forced into changing their minds?

What is basic fairness?
That lazy people take gibsmedat from hardworking peoples taxes?

Equality
Sage

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It is unnatural.

Fairness is satisfied when we give them a chance to change their behavior.
When they fail to do so, they must accept the consequences. They are not entitled to anything simply by existing.

>da joos
lol
>muh 90 billion
Colonialism and exploitation have been killing millions for years, yet people who object to this are framed as enthusiasts for mass murder. Really makes you think.

>we give them a chance to change their behavior.
>"""when"""

>what is the measuring indicator then?
Impact, either positive or negative. The scale of which is subjective based on the person whose doing it and how, why and the chance. It can be small deed but if it can act as a domino effect the person behind it should still be sought after and rewarded. No political system would ever think of acknowledging those actions either, they focus on the big picture not the big picture and the small details.

>we have laws & criminal courts for this
Laws are an outdated concept and have failed the people. We need something new.

>Why are those measuring parameters morally correct ones?
Because it will be handled not by a human ministry and neither a technological/A.I/God one. A balanced approach basically. Instead of giving power to the individual or the opposite concepts such as "God" or religion there has to be a middle ground that can be attained.

All living things on earth are inherently unequal, moreover there is no way to uplift living creature above its biological potential, you won't be able to make a hound out of pig. So the only way to make all things equal is to level them to lowest possible denominator and chop down anything that dares to be better than it.. Actually communist tried it once, by making everyone equal in death.

Actually there are several advantages to being short, you sir are a retard. A short man can accelerate his limbs faster than a taller man. Short men also have better circulation. On the battle field short men are smaller targets, so slightly less likely to get shot. Short men also have longer life expectancys.

Bootstrapping

> when we give them a chance to change their behavior
and how many times is a person given a chance?
How can put yourself above someone in a "fair and equal" society & deny them of any necessities or demands?
> They are not entitled to anything simply by existing
doesn't sound like an equal society at all lmao

you faggots want equality of outcome and that isn't possible. we have myriad laws about equal rights and give minority groups ever opportunity to achieve.

liberals want to absolutely destroy merit in order to satisfy their feelings. it's like the NASA photo the other day. the 1st thing liberals pointed out was that their wasn't any minorities or enough women. so a liberal would want to take away positions from people who rightfully earned them in order to make them feel better.
they have to do this because if they didn't they would have to accept that some groups are better than others.

>and how many times is a person given a chance?
Until they die, at which point they cannot change.
>How can put yourself above someone in a "fair and equal" society & deny them of any necessities or demands?
Very easily. I want to reward good behavior and punish negative.
>doesn't sound like an equal society at all lmao
Perfect. Equality is a caustic ideal and I will have no part in lowering everything to the lowest common denominator.

> The scale of which is subjective based on the person whose doing it and how
and who has right to determine whether my impact is positive instead of negative in an equal society?
why doesn't everyone's impact count as equal in your fair society?
> We need something new
how do you enforce safety and safeguard trust between people then?
who has moral right and power to enforce this in an equal society and why?
> A balanced approach basically
and what is it?
why does such entity have the moral right to be the parameter of fairness over men & God?

>Why does basic fairness and equality piss Jow Forums so off?
Give me one reason we should enforce equality? Are your morals superior over mine? Isn't that hypocritical then?

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The Illuminati of course.

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> Until they die, at which point they cannot change.
well in that how can you deny a person anything until he changes his mind?
> I want to reward good behavior and punish negative.
why do you have this right in an equal society?
> Equality is a caustic ideal
so you just want to be the new aristocracy through lies & deception lmao, typical champagne socialist

Equality and Fairness are at odds with one another.

>fairness and equality
Define what you mean by fairness and equality.

doesn't answer my questions
So I'll conclude that you just want to be the new aristocracy through lying and deceiving the suffering people.
Typical champagne socialist

>so you just want to be the new aristocracy through lies & deception lmao, typical champagne socialist
When did I suggest that I was a socialist?

I am down for fairness, if I am the sole decider what is fair and what is not. I deem it fair that OP is a fag and unfair that he doesn't have aids yet.

Your conclusion is proof enough why my view is just.

why is it just?
you didn't even answer my questions lmao
Why do you want to be a new champagne socialist aristocrat?

Look around you, asshole.

Nothing in life is fair.
Grow a pair.
Do you.

>Fairness is the measurement and acknowledgement of a persons, worth, contribution and role in a society proportionate to another person's.

This is absurd. You claim that fairness can measure someone's worth viz a viz another. But the inherent worth of each person is not defined by fairness. Their worthinesd is already defined by the time they get to the stage of comparing it to others. You're making fairness a way to create worth, then measure that worth. A complete conflict of interest. Plus circular.

Not an argument

>Why do you want to be a new champagne socialist aristocrat?
nice meme
Not an argument.

Based.

People are not equal. The outcomes of our lives will never be exactly equal despite all of the laws and brainwashing. Fuck off lefty!

it's far from a meme, Mutt

I think fairness would be all of the nonwhites living in white countries pay remittances for the damages they've caused and the resources stolen from our systems before self-deporting.

That's what fairness would be.

Only if the former colonialist countries repair what they damaged.

Kindergarten ethics do not apply to violent rape ape niggers and legally retarded genetic abominations, eat shit hippie