Pact of steel

ummmm no sweetheart, the greatest alliance ever made is the polish-israeli alliance

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Given how much we LARP as romans both with the H""R""E and the third reich it would be incredibly hypocritical to not always help Italy when they need help

>leaving them
Are they meant to be an ally, or a liability? Also, ever hear of someone called "Rommel, the Desert Fox"?

Yes, Hitler would have been much better off if he also had an enemy to the south that allowed the Allies to freely invade mainland Europe from their coast as well.

>hypocritical
So? If you'd won the war I'm sure you could have come up with some reasonable excuse for not having allied with them. Something something degenerate Mediterranean Moorish rapebabies, perhaps. Instead you shackled yourselves to a corpse and lost, and now look at the "great" relationship you have with Italy for all your efforts.

>Rommel, the Desert Fox
Irrelevant, at that point it was already over.
The axis could've on the whole war in 1940 if Germany invaded north africa and fully helped the italians.

The Italians were literally the only choice Adolf had when it came to regional power allies in WWII

Brits and Frogs were busy deep throating jew dick like always, Russians were cucked by the commies, spain was busy having a civil war, everyone else was mostly irrelevant military wise in europe

Of course the italians turned out to be more of a hindrance in the war than a help, but beggars can't be choosers

Zero chance of that, Italy was on a collision course with the West over their African colonies. Also the Alps are a thing.

Good post

Every Greek I've ever met has a hard-on for Italians.

Why so mad, Stavros?

The British had three MILLION Indian soldiers ready to go, had the Axis got as far as the oilfields of Iraq they would have been swept aside by a wave of poo.

Definitely wouldn't mind being ruled by France tbph. Just doubt they'd want to rule over this blessed mess.

Yea.... no thx, you can keep your gross ashkenazi food to yourself.

This

I would add to that alliance (Italy-Germany)
Spain and Portugal.

The last nationalist victory in Europe was done by you 4 together in the spanish civil war.

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He would have been better off with a simple treaty of non-interference, the Pact of Steel was retarded and doomed him.

>Finnish flag
>Stavros

Germancucks have been outsmarted by based meds for hundreds of years and theres nothing they can do about it

Italy was seeking an alliance with the west against Hitler in 1934
The failure of Operation E was totally Mussolini's fault for not listening to Graziani
If the 6th army was there instead of the 10th the British wouldn't have counter attacked

Even weaker than Italy, and Portugal in particular had no reason to join the Axis since they were already the allies of Britain.

They didnt have to go that far. All they needed was gibraltar and the suez and that would've been game over. The Germans couldnt even capture Malta ffs

>force Italians to ally with you even if they weren't ready, cucking their system with racist and idiotic laws
>make a shitton of retarded decisions, literally suiciding and losing the war
>blame Italians
>Whites can't take pride in being white anymore
>nationalism is labeled as nazism
>everything you could do to protect your country is ethically forbidden

Delusional Hitlerfags

>Italy was seeking an alliance with the west against Hitler in 1934
Yes but they failed because the West knew what they were up to. Mussolini made no secret of his ambitions to build a new colonial empire, the idea that the existing owners of those colonies would enable him in this was a fantasy.

>If you'd won the war I'm sure you could have come up with some reasonable excuse for not having allied with them.
I don't want a Europe without Italy
Its basically not Europe anymore

FPBP

Italians “brothers” and their southron pals can start by fucking from our nations

Not actually. Italian people was always more pro-french (not nowadays, but back in the days yes) and especially pro-british. People still remembered ww1 and to them being German or Austrian (the 19th century oppressor) was basically the same thing. Even some leaders of the fascist movement were against this pact,like the ministry of airforce and at the time the foreseen successor of Mussolini, Italo Balbo

Also everyone, even Italy itself, overhyped the actual capacity of it's military force. Everyone thought it had the power of France with a slighty less colonial manpower

>force Italians to ally with you
It was ITALY that offered the Pact of Steel, dumb dumb.
>cucking their system with racist and idiotic laws
Only in the Social Republic
>make a shitton of retarded decisions
Just the one: Allying with Italy
>Whites can't take pride in being white anymore
>nationalism is labeled as nazism
>everything you could do to protect your country is ethically forbidden
You can thank Italy for this, since they are the reason Hitler lost.

Stfu and make me a cup of tea, pathetic illiterate muslim

You have no much an ideia of history have you? how many times Portugal was defeated by anoyone? and Spain of Franco was not the modern cucked Spain:

youtube.com/watch?v=lXUplbOeOPI

>Just the one: Allying with Italy
>You can thank Italy for this, since they are the reason Hitler lost.
Did they ban studying history properly in your cucked country? Does it offend other ethnicities?

Debts I guess

Possibly, but even then the Brits would have shipped their Indians into the Middle East for a counter-attack. The Med was largely a no-go zone for the Brits anyway during the war, sure they sent combat ships thru it but they didn't much use it to transport troops.

Italy will always be with us, like syphilis.

Most of the Italians were illiterate farmers that barely had a clue about the world. One day someone told them "hey faggots now go and kill shit"
And people to this day still wonder why it went that way.

Mussolini was also interested in having Austria and the Balkans as "semi puppet states"
Italy had ambition in Egypt and Tunisia for strategic reason (the suez and the so called "gun pointed against italy") that would have been nullified by an alliance with them

I always thought that back then and even today, Italian Fascists wanted a strong Germany to dominate central europe which left Italy to dominate the mediterranean. Without a strong germany you have an unstable europe

Your kind is the one making tea and washing dishes for Britons in London

Wewuzromans and sheeit. You mixed race uggos are not entitled to live in our nations.

Spain under Franco was a war-torn shithole desperate for peace, it was in no position to go to war with anyone. And Portugal has a great history but if you honestly think it could have survived against the Allies in 1940 then you need some brain medicine. Also, they were and still are Britain's closest ally, if they joined the war at all it would be on the side of Britain.

Truth hurts, huh Giuseppe?

They would have lost faster if Italy was not on their side.

Nah sorry, I'm not a Neapolitan shitskin
Now behave or I'll have to report you for hurting my feelings, most likely that gets you arrested there

fuck off germans are our enemies,they have always been
thank god we made shitler lose

Italy also had ambitions of Empire, not just the scrap of desert they held, but a proper Neo-Roman Empire that encompassed much of the Mid East and the Balkans. There was never any possibility that Britain and France would allow such shenanigans.

Imagine being so poor you have to study history in a public school using tl:dr versions of it

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Imagine being so poor your country doesn't even have libraries. Sad!

The neo-roman empire was a meme,Mussolini was just opportunistic and tried to land grab as much he could in ww2

ahahah now your capital is full of Pakis thank to us

Worst idea ever
>ally with Hitler
>get dragged into pointless war
>still get zero territories like in WW1
>get imposed retarded racial laws when jews aren't even 10k people in Italy and get cucked with Holocaust guilt
>still considered hostile nation under UN treaties
>unable to develop nuclear program because muh evil axis member
We should have never allied with him. At max we should have done like Franco in Spain

no he lost because of (((you))), (((winston)))

Based

>Italy got no land in ww1
Uh what?
We got Istria and Trentino-Alto Adige

Yes thanks to you causing Hitler to lose the war.

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You know they lost the war, right?

That may be true but sadly for him the Western Allies took him seriously enough to take a policy of isolation towards Italy.

german are retards though, it's always a ploy

they need to learn their roots

this relationship starts in rome and the hq is rome

this is a one way street

when will germans learn

all according to plan

Right. Imagine Brits (which I apologise for being) blaming Italy and not themselves.

>You mixed race uggos are not entitled to live in our nations.

and yet, they are there.
shows what zero influence you have.

dago, 85% of roach immigrants from Italy to Britain, Germany, Netherlands and Australia come from the North. It’s not 1880s America anymore you know
Mussolini Italy technically wouldn’t be able to make such aspirations true. Their military was JUST tier and most nations in the Balkans allied with Hitlers Germany
For now*

Yes, they're both countries who've successfully exported sociopathy to the world consistently for the last thousand years

Umad?

*ting ting ting*

*ahem*

Fuck muslims.
Fuck Russia.
And fuck the EU.

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That's pretty diabolical. You're an Italian alright.

The policy of Isolation mostly started in 1935 because of the Italo-Ethiopian war(started by Ethiopia)
Italy left the locarno front after the Brits allowed the German to start building capital ship again

We got the scraps of what we were promised after a shockingly brutal war. It was a big part of why people were pissed at the entente despite us being historically more aligned towards France than Germany

Are you retarded?

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whites all faggots niggerlovers

>Mussolini Italy technically wouldn’t be able to make such aspirations true.
Beside the point, the West took him at his word and would not have allied with him because of it.

>5% of roach immigrants from Italy to Britain, come from the North

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I'm not saying that they would defeat us (Usa), i'm saying that if Portugal and Spain ve joined the axis, the things would be for sure different and everybody knows that. Britain couldn´t win a war against Spain and Portugal together and you know that.

About Spain of Franco, yes after the spanish civil war they had to recover from the destruction.

About Portugal, they were clearly pro-axis, (ideology), and they even sent volunteers.

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ITT: divide and conquer

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>scraps
Italy got all the main harbors in the adriatic and an excelent strategic position in Alto Adige with the only country hostile to us broken apart

Italian nationalists feared a strong Germany who could advance claims to Austria (who was basically our client state after ww1) and the German-speaking regions of South Tirol. In the mediterranean scenario they never forgiven France for "stealing" Tunisia, after years of diplomatic approch to turn it into the first african colony, but the strong socialist nature of Fascists (and Mussolini personal preference) made them still sympatize with the most violent and "proletarian" aspect of French revolutionary tradition, rather than old school Prussian right-wing

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i unironically still feel ashamed about how we fought the whole war. this is my greatest shame as an italian. sorry germans, that was not cowardy , it was lack of preparation.

I know, but we still got fucked over.
it.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patto_di_Londra
Not as much as in ww2, but still...

They won’t stay in Western Europe any longer than pakis, niggers, arabs and gooks, bro.
t. Italy
Hear hear. If only Hitler was cunning enough to forge a union with the British empire. Imagine the world we would be living in today
Translation: we are entitled to live in non-southron nations

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You're going to hate the near future, Muhammad.

Wrong. Italy may have sucked at WW2, but the reason the axis lost was because of the German invasion of URSS and the Japanese bombing of Pearl Harbor.
Italy did not made those kinds of mistakes

I agree that we deserved more but we still didn't get that screwed over and Italy got a slap on the wrist in ww2 by the allies and btw the treaty expired not many years after ww2 as we started to build missile cruisers just in 1954 despite having a ban on them

Clicked the wrong post, Ahmed. Sorry

The invasion of the USSR was always the plan, it was war with the West that was the mistake. And an easily avoided one, at that, all Hitler had to do was NOT break the Treaty of Munich.

lmao

why are you even talking (((anglo)))?

I was thinking of that when I made the thread

>meme flag
>calls me a kike
Whatcha doing, rabbi?

>Implying United Kingdom flag is not an honorary memeflag at this point

>he says, posting from Italy

Wir haben verloren, denn Italien kann man nicht trauen.Italiener sind schlechte Krieger.

Who founded Britain again?

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