Can I ask the older anons here a question about reality?
Does anyone remember living in the 80's and 90's (or earlier), and having a sort of feeling that things like astral projection, UFO's, government conspiracies, etc were really possible... and now have the experience that they don't seem realistic at all?
Have I simply outgrown these ideas? Or has something shifted about the way we perceive the world?
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Government conspiracies don't seem real now because of the news media trying to make it seem like they aren't real.
Remember how many government conspiracies turned out to be true? Back then the news media reported on that shit. Now they don't report on it and to instead say "white people are evil" because we're the only ones who notice that shit.
>government conspiracies
????
There are admitted government conspiracies of days past. You think they no longer do bad shit?
This is literally the case
If anything a large portion those ''''''''conspiracy theories'''''''' have been confirmed and even admitted
I used to not believe that shit and now I see everything and realise I was an idiot
You can literally read the FBI documents about remote viewing/astral projection on their website.
This. And there's google patents for mind control devices. I wish I had the links saved still.
Did then. Seems more real/possible now. How could it not be when the last 10 to 15 years has shown so many conspiracy theories about government abuse, corruption, and spying on its own people have been show to be true? After that, after seeing just how much contempt the ruling class has for the proles and how far they're willing to go to protect and enrich themselves at everyone elses expense it's a small step to believe they've developed far out technology, made contact with aliens, and plan to form their own breakaway civilization.
to me, it seemed more of a possibility to the general public in the 70s and early 80s. The late 80s and 90s was more about cyber shit. The new paranormal was created from within -some sort of conscience created by people interconnected in a network, and less about an outside conscience in some magical plane of existence. Plus the 90s was supposed to be all about being jaded and rejecting magical thinking.
Last user was a true old fag. Gen X here. In the70s this type of thing was promoted as possible. I really believed in ESP, UFOs. Like the girl down the street joined a UFO club and had a device that measured how high the UFO was , some kind of paper thing. Anyway, I thought it was cool LOL.
But yeah UFOs don't exist, aliens are just demons. Anything ET style is demons from hell. There's no other life in the world, we're it. The final redpill is that the bible is 100% true.
The Bible speaks directly of UFOs
Whether they are inter-dimensional or not they are UFO
>wises up to UFO psyops run by blood demon worshiping intelligence agencies
>just joins up with blood demon cult himself so he can worship the blood demon directly instead
At least your being efficient I guess..
Born in 1980 reporting in.
>Have I simply outgrown these ideas?
Highly likely. As time goes on you gain more experience, and with experience in life you start to realise there’s nothing fantastical about any of it. It’s incredibly mundane and tiresome.
Realistically any object flying in the sky that is not identified is a ufo
Literally a paper ball with a helium balloon attached to it can be a ufo if nobody knows what it is.
>watch as I impose my slave minded, gen X, blasé, nihilist world view upon you as though it were actually true and not the product of incredibly blatant social conditioning undertaken on my generation
Bible is a Jew book and Jews are led by aliens
Goliath as a Philistine Aryan is the true hero not some meeky david with no honour
I dunno, probably something to do with you being a kid back then?
This. They were all new and exciting back then. Now we know it's more shocking for something not to be a conspiracy so it's just another day.
>Does anyone remember living in the 80's and 90's (or earlier), and having a sort of feeling that things like astral projection, UFO's, government conspiracies, etc were really possible... and now have the experience that they don't seem realistic at all?
Don't know about in Oz, but here in the States, there were a lot of TV shows about that stuff back then. Does the media still pitch any of the above as true? They're trying to shut down "government conspiracy" stuff as they try to increase trust in government; I don't know that they give a shit about the rest. They ARE still trying to push spiritualism bullshit (as an alternative to Christianity).
I kind of remember things like that, maybe a lot less skepticism. Like I remember Heaven's Gate being a big thing, Waco, that stuff. When untoward things happened, people would be a lot more freaked out about them and they'd be bigger news. Same with shit like when there'd be some grainy video of a UFO, people would shit the bed and it would be on the news.
Now not so much. Ironically and I think perhaps sadly, people don't care nowadays, less because of how the media treats these things, and more because people have generally come to accept them. Before government conspiracies were some big and scary thing, only kooky wackjobs believed in them but it was still fun to consider and run around in circles of "What if?!" but compared to now, where government conspiracies ranged from literally true to "Not officially true" but everyone knows it is.
I think back in the 80s and 90s and earlier, if the government came out and said aliens were real, it would be global panic and existential crisis. Now if the government came out and said aliens were real, I get the feeling the general reaction would be like that video of the bright meteor across the sky (I think in Russia) and the guy driving is merely like "Meh", inconvenienced by it and pulls down the sun visor. I don't know if it's demoralization or that life has become so "real" now, but I don't think people hardly care about big things like they used to. A loss of innocence maybe the old belief that these things could never happen or be true, replaced with the knowledge that these things always happen and are true. Maybe because of the internet.
UFO conspiracy theories always were shit.
But not everything that gets labelled "conspiracy theory" is actually a theory in the common sense of the word.
I as a relative oldfag have the feeling that the media has much more of an "agenda" than it had 2-3 decades ago.
>government conspiracies
>not realistic at all
this is why they push ayylmaos and italian mafia, to divert from cia and the jewish mafia, for example. this tactic works, OP is proof
No
>remember when you thought all sorts of shit was possible because you were a kid
quality post
>I think back in the 80s and 90s and earlier, if the government came out and said aliens were real, it would be global panic and existential crisis. Now if the government came out and said aliens were real, I get the feeling the general reaction would be...meh
I think part of that is that people are now aware of how unreliable all sources of information are and how likely authorities are to be lying to them. Even brainwashed normies will accept that either the Blue Team or the Red Team is a bunch of fucked up drug trafficking pedophile criminals in bed with every industry and causing wars for profit, just not *their* team... but that other team.. anv even many of these people know deep down that their political party is also a farce, it's just that the social forces pushing them to support one team or the other, and thereby ignore/justify/defend the wrongdoing of one half the power structure are too strong for most people to bother resisting them. Everyone knows it's all a sham at some level, it just depends how deep you allow your mind to go into that possibility, and how close to the surface you allow those thoughts to rise. At some level, people in general are aware of the fact that literally everything that comes out of mainstream news is a psyop for one reason or another. So if aliens were announced, it's just one more thing that you probably shouldn't believe in and is probably just being used as a political football for the week.
Also, since everything is blown out of proportion to such an absurd extent - "OMG TRUMP TWO SCOOPS IT'S LITERALLY THE END OF THE WORLD" - when something actually extreme happens, people's reactions are distorted/blunted from years of overstimulation. It's the boy who cried wolf.
I’ve seen a ufo from less than twenty feet away so that’s going to be a hard thing to “grow out of.”
Care to share your story user?
The reason this is the case is that cell phones became a thing and there was a startling lack of evidence.
>skitzo general?
>UFO's and Government conspiracies are equally impossible guys
Always connect tin foil hat wearers to people who question the government
Always
OP here, I've actually seen a UFO myself up close. I'm talking more generally about the issue of perception, and the sense of wonder of the universe.
Growing up in the early 90's I watched all sorts of VHS documentaries on ghosts, aliens, atlantis, etc. There was 'Unsolved Mysteries' which often had supernatural stories, and 'The Extraordinary' here in Australia. There was The X-Files, and so on. I remember believing in astral projection, remote viewing, etc.
It just doesn't seem like it's possible to really believe in that world any longer.
You're just in a media bubble where that world view is presented as unbelievable. There are bubbles where people believe we're "attaining 5D" as we speak. There are a billion different bubbles. But yeah the most populated mainstream bubbles have become extremely utterly mundane from decades of inundation with shallow physicalist scientistic metaphysics. People find it boring and otherwise unacceptable and that's why you see the rise of things like simulation theory which is just a way for people who have trapped themselves in physicalism to allow themselves to believe in magical things again.
Most people are very materialistic and only focus on the material world. Also it gets tiresome thinking about non-material spiritual things in a society like ours so people stray from those thoughts naturally.
If you haven't, look up a thing called spirit science on jewtube. They have quite a few videos from a few years ago that you would like if you are into that stuff. I think they call it the history movie or something.
>simulation theory as scientistic spirituality
That's pretty much it and it's perfectly crafted as a relativistic, nihilistic prison universe.
Shit, at least gnosis has Sophia, or "a way out". Sim theory is completely demoralizing.
No surprise many "Sim theorists" are also neomalthusians/antihuman/Georgia guidestone-tier ideologue
Gladly user. My brother and I were driving home when we hit a stretch of road that didn’t have any houses along it for about a mile. The only building nearby was a truck driving school. (Obviously it was pretty tall.)
We heard a noise approaching from behind us. It was as stereotypically sci-fi as you could get. Like a typical hovering sound you’d hear in a movie. This unfamiliar sound obviously intrigued us, so I slowed the car as my brother looks out the window, and he yelled to me about there being a ufo passing overheard. Right after he said that, a black triangular craft with four lights, one at each point, and a larger one in the center of the craft, appeared in front of my car.
Like I said, it was really close so I got a great look at it:
>The material it appeared to be built from was foreign. The best explanation I have is that it was black, but like a mirror, I could see the reflection of things below it, but no light was reflected.
>the “wings” were folded inward at about a 35-45 degree angle. With each light being some sort of strange thruster that allowed it to make controlled movements similar to modern VTOL craft, but it was incredibly responsive and moving around in an unbelievable way. (I watched it make an instant and effortless 90 degree turn in front of the car)
>It made that 90 degree turn in front of us and ended up directly above the lone building nearby, but it had to have barely missed colliding with the roof by a couple of feet.
>Whoever was piloting it was aware of us, and had the craft turned towards us after ending up over the building.
>It then passed over our car again, heading in the direction which it came from, but it did something spectacular before it left.
>The wings pulled up giving the craft a flat profile and making the craft into a typical black triangle craft you might have read about online
>And then it zipped off with the speed of a bullet; one moment it was there and the next it was gone!
I hope that faggot test pilot got fired.
To give you an idea of how fluidly this thing was moving; it completely circled our car within about five seconds or less. The whole encounter was probably like ten seconds, maybe not even that long to be honest. It happened at night, but there was a full moon and a street light in the distance, and like I said, it was REALLY close to the ground.
I've had an OBE when I was a kid. I saw things that were to happen in my future all the way up until my mid forties. I'm 27 now and the things I saw did happen so far. The thing is, a year from now my life will spiral downward. There are no real signs of this now, but nonetheless I'm scared. I saw that the two years before I hit thirty years of age woudl be my darkest years up until that point of my life. I then saw glimpses of me in my late thirties were I was a complete bitter mess. I'm pretty scared desu.
So far all the others came true. There may be no escape.
>"Sim theorists" are also neomalthusians/antihuman/Georgia guidestone-tier ideologue
Yep. And they're all gonna get next level soul fucked when they sign up to get their brains hooked up to computers.
Nuts man. Did you have any weird missing time before or after the event?
Yeah it definitely looked like it was some form of advanced military tech, not so much alien.
But it was certainly doing things that most people would consider anomalous in this day and age.it was REALLY quiet though, if it had been 30 feet higher than it was we would’ve never heard it at all.
Not really; I didn’t check though, but I honestly felt like I was on drugs after and my brother and I needed time to collect ourselves. I think that was just the adrenaline from the shock, though.
Not as exciting a story, but definitely one of my more interesting experiences:
>summer day
>friend and i riding our bikes
>go down a trail in the woods near where i live. trail is kind of a path by a neighborhood
>riding along the fencelines of houses whos backyards are by the path
>friend is ahead of me by a few seconds, were both going pretty fast cause its downhill
>he turns the corner and i lose track of him for a second
>i turn the corner a few seconds later, and i dont see him anywhere on the straight away
>i reach the end of the path
>a few seconds later he comes flying down and catches up to me
We were so confused, because I never passed him, and he doesn't remember me at any point passing him either. There wasn't any other turns or alternate routes he could've gone either, and if he pulled to the side of the trail and hid in the bushes (why would he do that anyways?) I wouldve seen him doing it anyways cause I was only a couple seconds behind him in broad daylight. It was like a glitch in the matrix. The world just stopped running correctly for a second
I think it has something to do with the arrival of the Internet. It makes fact-checking much easier and thus lowers the susceptibility to bullshit. Nowadays it's like that: hard evidence of GTFO.
here's some comedy/horror reading depending on how much you want to read between the lines so to speak
from US DHS 2009 report on right wing extremism
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>Conspiracy theories involving declarations of martial law, impending civil strife or racial conflict, suspension of the U.S. Constitution, and the creation of citizen detention camps often incorporate aspects of a failed economy.
what wacky ideas those conspiratards spread back then.
>hey also opposed free trade agreements, arguing that these arrangements resulted in Americans losing jobs to countries such as Mexico.
as if that could ever happen
>...harkening back to the “New World Order” conspiracy theories of the 1990s.
>...led some rightwing extremists to believe that a “New World Order” would bring about a world government that would usurp the sovereignty of the United States and its Constitution, thus infringing upon their liberty.
cop of 18 years tells about DHS and other training about what they tell to watch out for:
>Expressions of libertarian philosophies
>Second Amendment-oriented views
>Survivalist literature
>Self-sufficiency
>Fear of economic collapse
>Expressed fears of Big Brother or big government
>Homeschooling
>Declarations of Constitutional rights and civil liberties
>Belief in a New World Order conspiracy
this is fine
No, because most of that shit turned out to be true.
My favorite example is the movie 'Enemy of the state' when that movie was made it was intended to be an exaggerated spy movie, not 100% true. We now know it pretty much was true.
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if a good portion of the strangest x files shit turned out to be true. He'll, everyone knows about 9/11 and the x files spin off show.
>experience
Has only confirmed every suspicion and stereotype...
Not only that, but it disproved all the programmed bullshit that I once believed, but then woke up from...
lot of them were under the name Hendricus C Loos
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actually it's the other way.
before the general conspiracy-nut was just considered that, a nut with zero evidence of his claims.
the internet + camera/recorders everywhere have blown things wide open. documents,images,videos that weren't meant to be shared with the world can be one click away.
Stop huffing petrol you abo cunt
Projecting our consciousness in our simulated reality isn't that difficult, it just takes time and patience, like learning to play an instrument.
Look up: Digital physics?
Because the vibrational frequency of humanity and also the planet was rising at that time. 9/11 really put a stop to that as was intended to since it was a ritual sacrifice
We as a collective knocked those ideas out of your mind by force.
You want deluded people go talk to normies.
Later days of USSR had lots of people honestly believing in KGB zombie rays, giant rats living in subway, aliens living among us and all kinds of shit. Got even worse after the collapse, then got better.
Growing up in the 90's I didn't think ayy's were real, they just existed in movies, then i read up some about the universe, it's stupid to think that we're alone in that sense.
I fucking hate the "demons" thing. Its really lame and exactly what people did back in the fucking dark ages.
>I don't understand and thats scary.. uhhhhhhhh, god did it? God did this.
And everyone knows aliens are just highly advanced human-created time travelling ai that travelled back in time to create us to ensure we create them in a never ending cycle of self perpetuation. Which means the final redpill is that the bible is 100% false. I too can make baseless claims it seems.
I think UFOs are really government built aircraft that they've kept secret from the public. I don't think they come from other planets.
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>having a sort of feeling that things like astral projection, UFO's, government conspiracies, etc were really possible... and now have the experience that they don't seem realistic at all?
not at all. most of those stories seemed unrealistic to me back then as well, and today there are still conspiracy theories that make more sense than the official stories.
