If God is real why does bad stuff happen?

He is a hard working dude. He deserved a nap. His nap was from 1933 to 1945

God isn't your babysitter

git gud scrubs

Exactly. God is dead.

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He punishes bad people when they do bad things.

because you touch yourself at night

We can make any decisions we want, thats why.

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OP is a faggot

Because we were shaped in the image of god but without godly powers leaving us to become evil from lack of freedom compared to our creator.

seems like he's getting sleepy, with all the goyim noticing lately it seems to me like the next couple decades aren't going to be very easy for you Jews

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BCS THIS IS NOT HIS WORLD BUT OURS

he didnt kicked us out of eden we went out ourselfs...

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Because He has granted us free will. Free will is kind of at the root of the entire creation of the universe. He wants us to come to him because we chose to, not because we are meat robots programmed to do as He says.

A universe with free will is by definition imperfect. A perfect universe would be static, unchanging, deterministic. A universe with free will will have imperfections (mutations,parasites, diseases, etc). Also, if God kept people from doing horrible things, like genocide, He would be abrogating their free will.

The physical realm is a cruel place, you know what you signed up for before you came here.

So you say God doesn't know everything? If he did then how can free will exist? He already knows the choices you will make so you've already made them.

>Because of free will
Why are infants born with conditions that kill them soon after?
What about the free will of the people being murdered? Why is their will less important than that of the murderers?

>god is real
>people have free will
>people do bad things
>god does not control these bad things

>god isnt real
>everything is arbitrary and random
>people do bad things
>god does this

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There has to be veriables in life

I told you, Satan controls this world now

Missed that somehow.
Okay then why doesn't God stop him?

An all knowing (from our point of view) and free will are not mutually exclusive.

Imagine you're the father of a toddler. He loves the current popular children show, to the point that every time it comes on he tries to sing along with the intro song and does a cute little dance. One day a friend of yours comes over, and your talking about stuff in the kitchen while drinking beer. You hear the beginning of the show from the front room, so you tell your friend to come watch your son. On que the kid tries to sing along and does his little dance. It's cute, and you all smile

Now, the boy could have chose not to sing and dance when the show came on just then. He could have chosen to turn off the TV and go play with legos. But he didn't. His dad didn't force him to sing and dance, he just knew his son so well that he could accurately predict his behavior. God is to us as the father is to the son. He is so much more intelligent and wise He knows what we (and the world) are going to do before we act, all without forcing our actions.

>Where is teh free wilz
>Oh someone used their free wllz to murder someone, Where is the free willz now
>there are no free willz
>checkmate Christian

We have free will to the extent that we can make choices and act within the constraints of the pre-destined events that God has determined. As an example, Pontius Pilot, the Sanhedrin, Herod and the Roman soldiers all made choices the ended up in them acting out their parts in the crucifixion of Jesus. They THOUGHT they were making choices of their own will, but it was leading to a crucial point to fulfil prophecy and demonstrate God's power.

Free will for us is much like this - we can choose to do things as we go about our daily lives, but where they intersect predetermined history set down by God, then we are but puppets in the show.

Another topic being brought up in this thread is the "what about God loving everybody" theme.

He loves his Children - those that follow him. His love is infinite and boundless for those that obey him and worship him. He is a God of love in that sense, but he is also a just and righteous God - he does not tolerate sin. The death of babies, loved ones and "innocents" all play a part in what he has laid down. Our brains aren't capable of understanding it all or seeing His purpose in all the events that occur.

We must also acknowledge that Satan is an actor in the world, and is able to influence the weak minded to do wicked things. In that, we need to understand that God could prevent them from happening if he chose, but he allows them to occur as they play a part in his pre-destined plans.

>bad stuff
i see surgeons, scientists, technicians and dentists user

Because we are nearing the end of days, he will soon when our Lord Jesus returns.
For now Heaven is Gods Earth is Satans.
It is a Sign of a true Christian to stay faithful to God in these trying times

>If God is real why does bad stuff happen?

Because God doesn't hold our hands every second of our lives. He gave us a sandbox and free will. What we do with it is on us.

Bad things happen because we released evil into this world. That's on us and we suffer because of it.

Because sin is real

>strawmanning someone after asking someone who mentioned free will questions about fee will
No wonder you idiots lost a war to emus.

God gave mankind free will. It's not his fault you all act like a bunch of degenerate beasts.

God is in a pissing match with Satan who claimed that people only worship God because God took care of them.

Because we are real and are endowed with free will, and thus suffer the consequences of our collective actions. This comprises 95% of all 'bad stuff' in the world (i.e the products of usury, wroth, avarice, etc). The other 5% are easily avoidable/negated and totally necessary attributes of our natural world for it to function as well as it does.

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>sin is real
>sin isreal
>sin israel

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>he hasn't read Revelations

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Which god is real? There were so many of them throughout history

But only one consistent from the beginning when God created the Earth in 6 days till now

if there is only one truth then any good who as only spoken this "truth" would technically be "real" in that they held some sort of insight beyond human comprehension

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but why ;(????

Because its up to humanity to make their decisions, God doesn't want to control your every decision.

Because you can’t have hope without despair, and you can’t know happiness unless you know suffering.

if you got killed and you were a good guy, then you have nothing to worry about as you are going to Heaven for all eternity

Also Children get a pass
Jesus said so.

God is not subject under the laws he created. He is outside of that.

Nah we were kicked out of Eden, you can blame the woman for that one.

Because of free Will. So, because of us. Also the muttgod ruling this world isn't the Real One, we are hidden from father's eyes.

le ebin master plan to test ur faith lol :^)
isnt it a christmas miracle u guys

You krauts sure hate God.

youtube.com/watch?v=W7VXNSHbfVg

Because He has granted us free will. Free will is kind of at the root of the entire creation of the universe. He wants us to come to him because we chose to, not because we are meat robots programmed to do as He says.
A universe with free will is by definition imperfect. A perfect universe would be static, unchanging, deterministic. A universe with free will will have imperfections (mutations,parasites, diseases, etc). Also, if God kept people from doing horrible things, like genocide, He would be abrogating their free will.

The physical realm is a cruel place, you know what you signed up for before you came here.

Cause god wants it, kek

I .God created the angels.

2. God made a place of suffering-Hell.

3. God placed Hell as a price on sin if the angels sinned.

4. The angels were fully warned.

5. One-third of those angels sinned.

6. God had no choice but to do what He said He would do.

7. God made man.

8. Satan came to man and wanted to drag man to the Hell where he was going.

9. Satan persuaded man to do what he had done and commit the same sin he had committed.

10. The price had already been set.

11. God had to let man go to Hell, though Hell was not prepared for man.

12. God was willing to break up the Godhead for 33 years so that man could be freed.

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God let's us figure our own shit out and giggles epicly at the failures.

What is bad things? You are an ant in Gods eyes. You couldnt possibly begin to understand true right or wrong. You all start from premise that death is the end. What if this existence is literally a dream? What then? We all learned to dismiss the dream upon waking. What if u wake up and see it was all you, dreaming it? Is it still all evil if it was ur imagination?
Humans think they can judge Gods actions, to me its laughable. Its like ants getting their anthill destroyed by a bus carrying 10 ant scientists which want to make 20 ant hills.
You never know.

Because while God cares about you, He's so alien that He can't comprehend you as an individual. That's why He needs His intermediary our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ to respond to our prayers.

If utopia is real, why do we live in shit?

Felix culpa

Because even if the nigger is real, entropy is also a real thing in order for the dynamics of the universe to be able to manifest itself as a stable paradox. Deal with it nigger.

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Shit is a state of mind

And not all indulge in it.

the holocaust was karma for 1000's of years of usury and parasitism.

Therefore ignorance is bliss?

You are far too simple 4 me.
But Ill give it a go.
No? Hahaha its not.
You just know too much about things thst hurt you, and not enough about things that build you

I'm doing fine though

Apparently not since you think we live in shit?

>Good guy
You mean by believing in Jesus Christ

Best analogy, saved. Thanks Avi.

Ari*