NoPorn

Makes nofap kind of more annoying. And messy. Well at least it is not period blood and no cramps or whatever.

I've been fapping almost every day to porn for over 20 years. I'm perfectly fine. If anything, I want to fuck more than ever.

Okay, buddy.

Porn addiction is a meme shilled by roasties to get men to pay more attention to them, don't fall for it.

I'm not your buddy, pal.

I'm not your pal, guy.

Without fail I can't believe suggesting not looking at porn on the internet gets people so ridiculously defensive every time, to the point they imply you're not normal if you DON'T watch pornhub (with adblockers off, of course)

Is it because they don't want to admit it's unnatural and shameful? C^:

I was about to make a similar thread. I personally quit porn after finding that it was killing my libido and beginning to feel physically nauseating to watch. However, I recently started watching tons of amateur shit, and haven't had any of the negative effects I was having before. If anything I'm randier than ever. Opinions?

It's probably the exaggeration, that sort of stuff in porn does nothing for me and if anything makes me laugh. Amateurs don't have that near as often so it's a lot more sensual. Sensuality over lust, that's what I've been feeling. Gotta jerk off the heart, you know?

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You must be new here. The amount of chucklefucks who troll this board with their yourbrainonporn and nofap shit handing out clearly bullshit "advice" to impressionable people like OP is staggering. In addition, they make moral judgements against people who do watch porn (pretty much everyone) with no credible foundation to stand on. They are indirectly implying that sex and the human body are things to be shameful about. It's a disgusting ethos to have.

Both fapping and porn are toxic for the male body and mind.

Porn fucks up your brain and makes life less enjoyable. It also makes it harder to interact with and attract women in real life. Your expectations of women will also be altered.
Fapping degrades the body and soul. Every time you bust a nut you tell your body that you have succeeded. You can relax, take it easy, let your worries melt away.
This can be fine, but if you're a neet with no job, no savings, no motivation in life, it is extremely dangerous. You are basically using fapping to numb your thoughts into being okay with your surroundings.
This is why most people fail at nofap. They fapped their whole adult life so when they stop they can't deal with the feeling of hungering for life. They feel like they are charged with electricity and the only way they know how to expel the energy is through masturbation/casual sex.
Instead you should use that energy to fuel productive activities like self-improvement, learning an instrument, succeeding in your career, etc.

I dare you to go 30 days without fapping or looking at porn and see how you feel. If you can't even do this you are most likely addicted to porn or masturbation.

Fuck off with your pseudoscience anecdotal bullshit.

>turns off lights
>Closes curtains
>lights candles
>Turns on porn
>Rubs one out
>goes to wash hands
>looks in the mirror
>Still pathetic.
>feel bad
>rub another one out to make yourself feel better
>feel even worse
>Someone mentions nofap on Jow Forums
>"Lol gtfo faggot with your pseudoscience bullshit"

And somehow that's porns fault and not your own fucked up retarded minds fault? Stop passing the buck you fucking loser.

you talk like a loser. Fucking this fuck that. Reminds me of this guy I know who is addicted to porn and fapping.

maybe you should try nofap?

I guess the difference between me and you is that even if I talk like a loser (I don't) you actually are one. I don't need to be pathetic and blame porn for my shortcomings. Stay small, kid.

>stay small, kid
>kid

The ultimate larp signal. I hope things turn around for you soon, user

It's ok, user. I'm sure you'll get your HS diploma if you keep trying. Pre alegbra can be a real difficult class.

This argument is ridiculous.

Masturbation is natural. Masturbating too much is not. If you're compulsively masturbating, it can both desensitize you, and make you less socially confident since you feel less drive to pursue.

Therefor, the reasonable thing to do is to masturbate less. The thing driving compulsive masturbation is usually internet porn. The easiest way to break that compulsion is to go off internet porn.

Masturbation isn't killing you, but going off porn is a good idea.

Jesus fucking Christ. You fucking people.

>Masturbating will dampen or halt your will to succeed
Holy shit that's quite the assumption to make. Is that just your personal experience? Is that only what you "think" will happen?

That literally has nothing to do with what I said. When I say feel "less drive to pursue," I'm talking about women. You're going to feel sexual pressure regardless. That sexual pressure can get relief from masturbation to things that aren't overstimulating (imagination, non-pornographic images) and still remain in tact for wanting to pursue and fuck girls, or you can just overpower it with porn binges and feel no need to make moves on women.

I don't think so.

What's worth it is finding something better to do with yourself so that you're not jacking it all the time.

I unironically don't understand what normal, well-adjusted people do all day. I understand a job takes up a lot of time, but there's still six or so hours to fill outside of it.

This isn't OP btw

>day 2
>boner gets on a powertrip and kept me awake for 3 hours until i finally decided to fap
god fuckign dammit
cold water didnt do any good
oh well. at least it wasnt porn
but is it worse if you had your imagination?
god dammit.

It's fine to masturbate. Just don't do it constantly.

it's daily, but not constantly
i want to practice my discipline, it's more of a "hey see how far can you go" kinda thing
for fun, basically

The only one is this thread who truly gets it. Listen to this guy OP. Fuck porn, jerk off less. I’d say once a week or less is optimal

>Overstimulation
What's overstimulating to you is not to me. This correlation you're drawing between porn usage and a man's "will to pursue" (which is difficult to measure. How convenient) is based on psuedoscience and anecdotal evidence. You're stating conjecture as fact. It's ridiculous and it's amazing people buy into your bullshit.

You're a hilariously defensive moron.

Wow what a nice comeback. Gosh you sure showed me. Maybe you'd have a better argument if you started watching more porn.

This post really speaks for itself, so I'll just leave this debate here.

I did it for a long time back when it was all the craze in 2013. If you jack off to porn alot then it will probably benefit your life. Will it fix all your problems? No. Best solution is to find a decent woman to fuck and never look back. If you can't get that then stop the porn and just use your imagination to masturbate or quit all together. Don't get all anal about it and count days and get depressed because you lost your streak like I did back in the day.

Pathetic. Truly pathetic.

I reiterate

He doesn't sound mentally ill, you're just assuming that because he is on Jow Forums.

Good advice, thanks

It's ok. We'll meet again when you try and shove more yourbrainonporn and nofap garbage down another anons throat in some other thread.

I don't do that. It's literally the topic of this thread. Again, you're a sad little moron.

You will. I know your kind. You can keep calling me a moron all you want as that's all you can do. I pity you.

This is literally the first time I've posted about this. You're the pitiful one, you're literally attacking people for looking for solutions. You're projecting. You should kill yourself, you pathetic loser.

Oh ok. I'll take your word for it. You wouldn't ever lie to suit the situation while posting on an anonymous image board. Gosh my bad user.

Sounds good.

Cool. Good session. See you in the next thread.

I hope not, you're a deeply unpleasant person, and you're very focused on dragging other people down. I think you must be really miserable.

I'm sorry you feel that way. However you don't really matter to me so it's irrelevant what you think.

I clearly matter a lot to you. You can't help but responding to everything I say. You care so much that you feel the need to tell me you don't care what I think. You're a sad little man, Bud.

You know what, user? I'm tired of this childish bickering. Life is too short to be wasting it on such negativity. I clearly disagree strongly with the opinions you've stated in this thread. That being said, we don't have to be friends but we also do not have to be enemies.

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Wow.

So what say you besides "Wow."?

>Is it worth cutting out porn?
If you frequently masturbate to porn you will eventually desensitize yourself to normal sexual encounters. Most people aren't 10/10's with DD tits, huge dicks or extremely athletic bodies. If you go into a relationship expecting that then it can lead to a lack of sexual gratification and ED.

The fucked up thing about porn is that sexual pleasure is normally limited in the wild, and exposing yourself to extreme fantasies can eventually lead to seeking out progressively stranger shit to get that same 'high'. This is what leads to porn addiction and eventual degeneracy (not Jow Forums-tier degeneracy). It's best not to get started at all, and it's one valid reason to commit to nofap

>Projections with no factual basis
You and that other user in this thread would get along great.

I think you're definitely right about the desensitizing effects, and I've experienced that, both physically and mentally. I had no trouble functioning, but I wasn't sensitive and I had trouble getting into it.

With porn, I like pretty normal-looking girls, and none of my fetishes are that extreme, but still, the constant exposure to porn definitely desensitizes.

Go away, flea.

>flea
Pffft hahahaha oh wow I'm so insulted.

Hahaha oh user...you're funny.

I really think you're mentally ill. You're so desperate for attention and so persistent that it's genuinely bizarre. What have you been diagnosed with?

Now I'm mentally ill? Oh, please Dr. user... diagnose me!

>which it sounds like you are
literally how

>having those sexual urges basically constantly beaten into submission.
yeah see this is where I don't see the benefit of noporn.
I'm still incredibly horny (23)
I find average women attractive
sex, when I got it, still felt great.

The supposed effects of noporn don't seem to outweigh the instant gratification high I get.

That's because the side effects don't exist.

No, really. Please tell me what you've been diagnosed with.

I haven't been diagnosed with anything. Sorry to burst your bubble there, chief. If I had been would you have tried to use that to invalidate everything I'd have said in this thread? Not really surprised. You use junk science and anecdotal evidence so why not tack on abusing the stigma surrounding mental illness as well? You're a real stand up guy (or girl. We have to be inclusive here).

Please, tell me more. I want to know specifics. Keep going. I'm learning a lot.

Oh! Of course, user. Well, I like long walks on the beach, apples, reading non-fiction, aaaaaannnd going to baseball games!

Now you!

This is good advice. Going 30 days without, slipping once, then going another 30 days without is almost as good as putting in 60. Zero porn is obviously the ideal, but you don't have to go five consecutive years without porn to see the benefits of the practice.

>the benefits of the practice.
tell me personally what you experienced.
I want to stop, but not really, since I don't feel like I suffer from the supposed effects of constant porn use. Unless it's just that subtle.

Nice! Yeah, I think it's just about getting out of the practice of constantly using it.

Also, ignore

>Also, ignore
fuck you man, I'm legitimately asking him what he felt.
kys asswipe

Mind feels clearer, more motivation and desire to accomplish things, more confidence, and a general feeling of comfort and ease in social situations that would have put me on edge before. You'll get the most benefit if you pair nofap with other productive habits you want to start or improve on. Also I dick troubles when I was with women, and nofap has made my dick work like one should.

If you aren't addicted to porn or masturbation, aiming for 30 days should be easy. That'll give you a taste of the benefits. Even if you get absolutely nothing from it, all you really lost over bad internet advice is 30 days' worth of beating off. Are you putting that much at stake?

You kys, loser

>Even if you get absolutely nothing from it, all you really lost over bad internet advice is 30 days' worth of beating off. Are you putting that much at stake?
makes a lot of sense, thanks user

who hurt you

See you in thirty days when you post the thread about how your life hasn't changed at all.

no seriously who pissed in your cheerios this morning?

It's beyond that. His obsession with attacking everyone in this thread is genuinely bizarre. There's something wrong with him.

I offered to end it with an olive branch but you wanted to be a dick. It's ok, user. That's probably the sexual frustration speaking. I won't hold it against you.

No. You can't help yourself, if anyone says anything you attack them. Your desire to "make friends" is just bizarre, and I really suspect you're mentally ill. kys

Sigh... oh well. I tried to be the better person. Enjoy your nofap you brainwashed peasant.

No you didn't. Your entire presence on here is as a troll. You're a sad little man.

Yes it's worth it. I've been off of it for 9 months and I'm the most confident I ever was in my life.

its the fault and guilt in it self. can you moron stop breathing?

Its not question of whos fault, troll.

people who start smoking, knows its not healthy and its cancerous, it aint tasty, you tried it once and then nicotine kicks in, then it feels good to give the mind what its craving..

like giving sugar to a freakin child..

once you have it, tried it, you are drugged for life, that feeling of being overpowered by your instinct which the elites, people in power, ( oink oink jews ) do to corrupt others, to program them into the worse habits.

That sounds like a shameful result.kek

Nobody said anything about nofap.

I'm trying nofap. On 10 days now. Sort of looked at sexy pictures yesterday so whoops.

But in my opinion it might all be junk. I started my selfimprovement about a month ago and all my hapiness and confidence has come from the gym, going out more, eating less, booking travel tickets, optimism from the future.

All I feel the nofap has done was take away the fun and enjoyment I had by getting to fap at videos of chubby asian girls before going to bed. I mean I want some enjoyment while not having a girlfriend. I'm still trying my best. Is fapping really going to make me not want to continue the gym? If anything it will remind me why I go to the gym: so I can eventually be that nice qt

>porn tends to desensitize you to the IRL women
What happens if you have no chance of having sex with a woman anyway?

You sound like you have brain damage.

If you're a woman, porn won't do anything to you. If you're a man, it will make you dissatisfied in social interactions. The causality is well established, explanations are multiple.

This thread is too good
>I have an opinion
>your opinion is different mine, therefore you're projecting

Ah this thread is still here. Great! I am back, refreshed, and ready to talk with my friends in this thread. How's everyone doing? Did you all have a good fap last night and are feeling better?

I'm () still lurking because I want more opinions on amateur shit, not a 50-reply slapfight of "no u"s.

If you, or anybody, can go into a little more detail on the studies on that relationship, I'm very interested.

Every guy should do nofap/noporn for awhile. Before I started I was only getting off to really weird degenerate Jow Forums shit. After a few months going without, I could jerk off to instagram pics. Now I just fap once a week to very vanilla porn.

I'm still a loser but nofap just made me message fat girls on dating sites, only to regret it when I realize I've been lusting after an obese single mom.