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Where did liberals come up with more than two genders?
Carson Myers
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Christopher Long
Mental illness.
Alexander Fisher
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Jonathan Evans
these, but they ironically also define men and women very narrowly
Benjamin Rogers
>Where did liberals come up with more than two genders?
biology books? history?
I don't know why the existence of trans people blows conversatives minds so much.
Lincoln Collins
Judith Butler
Judith Lorber
bell hooks
Jennifer Nash
Kimberle Crenshaw
Susan Stryker
Leo Williams
>biology
>trans
Anthony Hughes
Trannies are mentally ill. You don't change sex by claiming to be the opposite sex.
I don't know why trannies bamboozle liberals so much.
Michael Parker
In their drug addled narcissistic minds.
A cohort that hates being labeled ended up creating a whole slew of labels for themselves.
Jason Taylor
>Trannies are mentally ill
en.wikipedia.org
some might be, but most aren't.
Notice the title of that article is "causes of transexuality" not "does transexuality really exist"
Mason Gutierrez
Jews exploiting the mental illness?
Cameron Nguyen
Correct, user.
Ryder Wilson
> Citing Wikipedia
> On anything related to trannies
> Ever
kek
> Notice the title of that article is "causes of transexuality" not "does transexuality really exist"
I agree there are mentally ill men who want to be women and try to become female through surgery. Only in that sense does transsexuality exist.
Camden Wright
the belief that all intersex conditions are their own 'natural' genders and a hatred for modern medicine for its practice of 'medicalisation' of 'natural phenomena'.
There's this idea that all doctors should treat patients as 'holistic entities' and that the treatment of parts of people (like say, a proctologist for your anus) is proof of the dehumanising effect of the entire medical industry
>Pic related, screengrab from a sociology textbook
Alexander Nelson
Ian Cook
The people trying to destabilize the west so it burns to the ground, and they can rebuild it in their image have been trying to control the language for many years now.
They've changed a lot of definitions.
They even changed the definition of fascism.
If you control the language you control the mind of the person using it.
Josiah Turner
Me on the right
Zachary Cook
It comes from listening to the broken thoughts of mentally confused people and trying to somehow enshrine them in acedemia.
Susan Butlers works in particular are insane babble masked in flowery prose to give it an air of authenticity.
Jacob Gomez
Meant to say Judith Butler.
Still try reading more than a page of that nonsense.
Eli Morris
Trannies brainwashed girls who were naturally tomboys/tomboyish into believing they were actually boys.
Jason Lewis
I did. Not that hard.Was a fascinating glimpse into why constructionist ideas are appealing to people.
>basically you can summarise it in an afternoon and still make yourself sound intelligent despite knowing absolutely nothing of value about the subject at hand, much like marxism.
Julian Walker
dude its not science if you cut your dick off and make a fake vagina its just mental illness
faggot
Evan Diaz
>retardation is caused by brain differences
>it's an illness
>trannies are caused by brain differences
>they think they are something they factually are not
>somehow not an illness
liberal idiocy never ends does it?
Robert Green
Social engineering for acceleration-ism.
They had to find a way to counter-balance the tide of rising feminism.
Mason Green
Language and biology. Chromosomes are not expressed solely as XY or XX. Intersexed people exist. And language has more than two genders.
There is literally no basis in biology or language for claiming that there are only two genders. There is plenty of evidence and many examples to the contrary.
Claiming that there are only two genders, or two sexes, is false. Because we have three or more of both.
Lucas Ross
>biology books?
>Trannies
You spent too much for your substandard education if you think trannies are in a real biology textbook.
Hunter Butler
well yeah but intersex people aren't necessarily trans. even if they're obviously related issues
Owen Williams
Not science
It's based on their faith in gender spectrum.
>Science deniers
Easton Ross
Have you just never opened one? Human sex is covered pretty thoroughly in biology text books..
You need to read the OP. What does trans have to do with anything?
Brayden Lopez
>Where did liberals come up with more than two genders?
Jews
Understand what they did to the West
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Lucas Fisher
Fuck off you mentally ill faggot
Michael Baker
>biology
user I....
Levi Baker
WOW! THATS A LOT OF PROOF YOU HAVE FOR YOUR VIEWPOINT THERE.
Daniel Smith
This.
Look up a guy named John Money. He was a commie jew filth monger who thought that gender could be flexible and was a result of nurture rather than nature. He essentially tortured two boys, performed experimental vaginoplasties on them, and they both killed themselves.
This is the man whose science is used as the grounds for the modern argument on gender.
Carson Hill
>I no facts but I must shitpost
Pick a claim I made, and go ahead and try to argue it. I'm happy to prove you wrong and provide you evidence that there are more than 2 sexes and genders. It's fairly easy to defend facts.
Genders in Germanic languages (like English):
Masculine
Feminine
Neutered
Human chromosomal sex expressions:
XX
XY
X0
XXX
XXXX
XXXXX
XXY
XXXY
XY/XXY Mosaic
XX/XXX Mosaic
XYY
You're welcome.
Josiah Morales
>Where did liberals come up with more than two genders?
Jews just stole it like they do everything but it really originated from Orwell's book 1984 during a torture scene
Mason Bennett
liberal gender theory is based on the idea that the vast, vast majority of human behavior and social norms are created concepts and separate from our biological roots, as such the idea that masculinity and femininity are irrelevant and fluid comes about. From there its an easy jump to the idea that gender is relative to how a person expresses themselves
not that i agree with it of course, just playing devils advocate. The subject is actually quite interesting
Kevin Morris
Literally what I explained in One of the things on that list is Klinefelter's syndrome which I wouldn't wish upon anyone because of it winning one of the worst genetic lotteries nature has ever come up with.
Oliver Stewart
Here's the excerpt
Jack Mitchell
>congenital defects are whole new sex categories
Liam Evans
What you poorly misunderstood in that post, you mean.
There are problems with reductionism. Diabetes patients going to a cardio and endo for that shit then a pcp for advice when the pcp doesn't have fuck-all of a clue what the other two put a patient on is a pretty good example of it. And mutations are natural. No idea why you put that in quotes. Genetic expressions are what they are--there aren't "natural" and "unnatural" ones unless you're talking about "natural versus artificial" and then there's just that one baby that some Chinese people fucked around with.
Genetic expressions are genetic expressions. If you say sex is defined by genetics and therefore there are only two, and there are more than two? You are wrong. That is how facts work.
Juan Cox
Ever wanted to know how to get 72 genders?
Grab all those congenital conditions, append shit like 'cis' or 'trans' to it.
Thomas Murphy
>Natural
Alright, you got me on putting shit in quotes, but that's a tiny detail compared to the logical fallacy you're in.
Just because it's natural, doesn't make it inherently good or desirable. Strychnine is all natural baby, does that mean we should start eating it? Fuck no.
>X0
You know that people with Turner Syndrome are basically fucked if they leave it untreated, right? More to the point, most of these genetic expressions are infertile or have a high chance of infertility without medical intervention. Bang your drum about reductionism all you want, but quality of life matters and having these expressions fucking suck for quality of life.
But sure, encourage people to embrace the things that make them suffer. That'll end so well.
Evan Ward
>Just because it's natural, doesn't make it inherently good or desirable.
What are you talking about? Where have I claimed that they're good or desirable? Of course they're not desirable.
I'm not telling people to embrace anything. I'm not making a value judgement. I'm making a factual statement: there are more than two sexes and genders. That's a fact. My pointing it out is not a value judgement any more than "the sky is blue" or "one plus one is two." Facts aren't ethical maxims.
Chase Scott
To the best of my knowledge, the most common (non-strawman) liberal position is that there are people who identify as male, people who identify as female, and people who don't strongly identify with either. Science has proven that trans people's brains show structural aspects generally found in those of the gender they identify as. Even if you do consider it a "mental illness", there is no objective reason to not allow people to dress and act in the way that makes them most comfortable. It doesn't affect you AT ALL. It's 100% knee-jerk "muh feels" reaction to something being different and therefore wrong - i.e. the foundation of most "socially conservative" positions.
Jeremiah Evans
They have a succubus or incubus in them and that's why. So if you are a man, and you have a succubus, you will identify as a female and like other men. This is why we are headed to New Babylon because demon world.
Charles James
Identifying them as separate genders, as opposed to the malformed chromosome expressions they are, is a value judgment because now they're on the same tier as male and female.
Now we've got an ethical issue: is it okay to medicalise them at all? Wouldn't treating the symptoms of Turner syndrome now be akin to forcibly sex changing females for not being male enough?
Pay attention to your own turns of rhetoric, they say a lot more than you probably even realise.
Mason Flores
Ok first: we're talking about sexes, not genders.
If you want to claim that there are only two sexes biologically, you're going to have to say what you base that on. And if you say "genetics," then we've already established that your definition does not restrict human beings to two genetically defined sexes.
So let's start there. How many biological sexes do you believe there are?
It'll be more effective if you make your argument and I make mine, rather than you pretending I said something and arguing against that, instead.
Jacob Watson
>How many sexes
Two.
My argument is more one of results, because funnily enough, I find arguments fixated on the genes in a vacuum, ignoring all other details, to be reductionist.
Every other expression that isn't simple XX and XY comes with a whole host of medical issues that would render survival (lets say, back in an environment before agriculture took off) without medical and social intervention either extremely difficult, or downright impossible. More to the point, a great many of them are infertile or have extreme difficulty with fertility.
Dead ends in other words.
Gavin Turner
>Consistently, previous studies have shown high rates of childhood sexual, emotional, and physical abuse among transsexuals
>more than half of transgender adults reported an unwanted sexual event before the age of 18
>the higher DES score among transsexuals compared with a normal population was found to be due largely to one item. A surprisingly high prevalence of emotional maltreatment was recorded.
researchgate.net
>"These findings suggest that abuse and neglect during childhood could have a role in dissociative disorders as well as in the development of gender identity. Consistently, previous studies have shown high rates of childhood sexual, emotional, and physical abuse among transsexuals (Pauly, 1974; Lothstein, 1983; Devor, 1994; Kersting et al., 2003; Gehring and Knudson, 2005)
researchgate.net
>"Compared to a group of psychiatric inpatients, transgender clients reported a higher prevalence of emotional maltreatment in childhood, which, in adulthood, was associated with higher levels of dissociative systems (Kersting et al., 2003). In addition, more than half of transgender adults reported an unwanted sexual event before the age of 18"
journals.lww.com
>"However, the higher DES score among transsexuals compared with a normal population was found to be due largely to one item. A surprisingly high prevalence of emotional maltreatment was recorded."
Daniel Jackson
So what is your biological definition of sex, then? What's your point about them being "dead ends?" First off, they're not all. XXX is 1/1000 and fertile. But more to the point: so what? It still proves that any argument "male/female is xy/xx" is flat-out wrong.
Blake Clark
based and informedpilled
Lucas Smith
From foreign countries. Asia is big on the whole third gender thing. Look at Taiwan and the Philippines
Carter White
My point is that anything outside the XX/XY paradigm is a malformation. That XXX for instance is a failure state, not a sex in unto itself.
Xavier Peterson
There's male female and hermaphrodite which is a mix of male and female. Though the hermaphrodites you're sex will blossom when it starts hitting puberty
Matthew Martinez
True sex*
Landon Bailey
Jews
Camden Butler
"mistake" isn't a sex
Jace Thompson
Unabomber 219: Leftists don't care about the actual "injustice" they just need a call to action to make themselves feel powerful and engaged.
with niggers and homosex having equal rights they're desperate for any group to make them feel superior and validated
Logan Richardson
"Intersex" people don't have chromosomes other than X or Y. They are not a third sex since that doesn't exist. People with ploidy in c23 are literal abnormal beings.
Languages have only 2 genders, to my knowledge. I know of no language with extra genders.
Zachary Russell
Tranies were never considered a gender by itself. This is yet another attempt by people to feel special and different.
Nathaniel Ortiz
Since you're using deviance in chromosomes as different sexes, I could infer that Downs syndrome is a sex. Do you see where this reasoning takes us?
Jacob Nguyen
My biology books speak exclusively of male and female for sexual beings.
Juan Williams
Zachary Hill
>there is no objective reason to not allow people to dress and act in the way that makes them most comfortable.
...you sure about that?
Jayden Sanchez
>Trannies prove more than two genders
>When trannies want to transition from one gender to the other
Really activates my almonds.
Isaiah Green
based uncle ted
Blake Phillips
It's a Capitalistic attempt to make money off of a disadvantaged group, like they did by creating markets specifically for Blacks, Gays, etc but there's so few mentally ill "trans" people out there that it's basically a failed marketing campaign.
Cooper Brown
from the same septic tank of victimhood complex the right got its *oppressed whites* narrative.
when life gives you everything you need to succeed and all the responsibility for personal success lies with you, it's much easier to make create an illusion of victimhood, rather than own up to personal (collective?) failure.
Christian Price
>Human chromosomal sex expressions:
>XX - Female
>XY - Male
>X0 - Turner Syndrome, miscarriage
>XXX - super Female
>XXXX - super Female
>XXXXX - super Female
>XXY - Klinefelter Syndrome, Male (sterile)
>XXXY - Klinefelter Syndrome, Male (sterile)
>XY/XXY Mosaic - Male (possibly sterile)
>XX/XXX Mosaic - Female
>XYY - Male
Get rekt son
Easton Gray
For the majority of Intersex conditions, they are phenotypically male or female with either a decrease in the secondary sex characteristics associated with their gender, or a slight increase in the secondary sexual characteristics of the unassociated gender.
Even in true hermaphrodites, only one type of gonadal tissues function.
>Language is proof tha-
GET OUT.
Joseph Sullivan
>If you say sex is defined by genetics and therefore there are only two, and there are more than two?
Good thing there are only two.
Henry Bennett
>I don't know what a phenotype is
t. English major
Alexander Nelson
French philosophers
Bentley Morales
>I'm making a factual statement: there are more than two sexes and genders. That's a fact.
No, it's a false statement. There are only two sexes and two genders in Homo sapiens
Austin Cruz
tumblr
Adrian Cooper
There are no genders, because gender doesn't mean anything. There are two sexes.
James Sanders
>If you want to claim that there are only two sexes biologically, you're going to have to say what you base that on
Phenotype
Jordan Collins
>Biology
>History
Being this fucking delusional
Brody Young
from cheap acid
Kevin Martin
>Genetic expressions are genetic expressions. If you say sex is defined by genetics and therefore there are only two, and there are more than two? You are wrong. That is how facts work.
If I say my factory only produces red and blue cars but one in a thousand comes out purple due to machine failure, I'm being accurate, just not precise to the point of pedantry. Same thing here
Jack Edwards
Do the marketing companies have the Marxist propagandists in the media and universities on their payroll or were they just lucky that those were around to shill their products?
Brayden Hernandez
But red, blue and purple are colors. But there are no other sexes beyond male and female. There are only sperm and egg and there are only two sexes, one for each gamete.
Nicholas Allen
Wanting to find a way to be unique snowflakes by pretending that words "sex" and "gender" doesn't mean the same thing.
For one, there are just crossdressing perverts and sissies who found a way to feel them more "appealing", and for two there are perverts who just want to pretend to be female to visit their toilets and stuff like that, but legally.
All those intergender bigender are just special snowflakes of special snowflakes who had the idea that choosing of those 2 is not enough.
Logan Thompson
>There are no [ANY WORD] , because [ANY WORD] doesn't mean anything.
Fuck off, retard
Xavier Watson
It doesn't affect you AT ALL
> Say the pronouns or go to prison
> Put the tranny rapist in women's prison or be evil
> Let the tranny beat women in sports or be a bigot
> Make the little boy take puberty blockers or be a transphobe
Fuck. That.
Christopher Wright
"Gender" literally doesn't mean anything.
Dylan Ward
>conservatives
Easton Gomez
Maybe in English because you have neutered speech, but in all Latin languages gender does exist.
Easton Anderson
nigger
Hunter Evans
We're talking about its SJW use for people, not the traditional use of gender in Latin languages.
Ian Wood
holy shit, saved
Andrew Hill
No, it's not accurate, because the different car types aren't even the fucking same. It's like you have a factory that produces pickup trucks and sedans; the chassis is what is it is, and you pretty much can't fuck it up. But then the new guy tries to install the sedan-sized console in one of the pickups, somehow gets things wired up, and then the (((management))) says, "That's ok, buddy. We'll just put a 'sedan' sticker on this truck, everyone'll buy it!"
Connor Morris
Fuck portugal
Jackson Moore
fuck canada shithole
James Reyes
>actual proofs
Say, to get the Tumblerinas to stfu, do you know whether there were similar studies that show that there was still a gap even BEFORE the parents knew their kid was a tranny? You know, to eliminate the "but their parents were bigots!" argument.
William Peterson
Jewish psychobabble.
Dominic Garcia
In Bulgarian there is only the word “pol” referring to whether the object\person is male or female(or neuter)
I assume in English gender and sex are synonymous but liberals are trying to “evolve” the meaning of the word gender
Caleb Morris
Even assuming trannies are perfectly fine and normal, they're still people who feel like the opposite sex, not like some chimaeric combo of various made up sexes.