West & East Germany Guilt and Brainwashing Thread

Dear Kraut/pol, I was thinking about how the German people have been brainwashed by the US(our evil kikes) and the USSR(their evil kikes)in the split Germany. Please tell Jow Forums about the differences and similarities in the brainwashing and guilt that was drilled into your skulls from both occupiers.

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We and /ourgermans/ did nothing wrong.

Self Bump. Yes I know most Krauts are sleeping.

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Eastern Germany is basically filled with slavic rape babies since WW2...

since VIth century*

Lieing, cz*ch Jew scum

Soviets actually didn't guilt trip and brainwash Germans AT ALL. At least when it Comes to the six gorillion, White guilt and all of that collective, intergenerational punishment. Sure they were brutal directly at the end of the war and in the first years they stole Train tracks, etc. while the West got the Marshal Plan. BUT Germans were educated to be common victims of bourgeois capitalism and it reactionary face, fascism, while adapting old traditions from the Prussian army. I have relatives in the east who had very good Relations with the Russians and the since the DDR was to be the role model of soviet style communism they indeed became quite good at the latest when Stalin died.

Seeing how the Jewish oligarchs allied to prevent the old guard Soviets rising to power and Wrestling the power out of (((their))) criminal Hands and tried to shill liberals, but got ass fucked by their own Patronage Putin, made me realize liberal Democracies are A LOT worse than classic communism.

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We at /pol are always talking about how the US under kike control has been brainwashing and ruining German culture since ww2. This is a fact. What I want to know is what was it like in East Germany. Was it the same cabal of kikes running both shows etc... But mainly I want anecdotes about my dad,mom,grandpa,grandma told etc... or even from boomer Krauts or GenX'ers who were children in East Germany.

Get lost unemployed Eternal Pole. This is all your fucking fault anyway.

Thanks, for posting.

Well, at least the kikes running Poland/Prussia before ww2

How a former KGB Captain, married to a German teacher, took out the Jewish mafia youtube.com/watch?v=Q2Cl8lSv9Is

You see. What you realize with These Jews that are running the West today, especially the USA, and by Proxy my Nation, is: they don't hate communism. In fact, they love it. They created and Keep creating it. What they hated was Russians. And that's why even le based Jews like Neumann never said "Let's bomb those commies!" but "Let's bomb the Russians!"

OP fuck off!

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Nie wieder Stasi! Nie wieder Bautzen! Nie wieder Kahane!

True czechs died out after the communists made you breed with gypsies...

Thats bullshit and you know it.
I mean really, the total amount of rapebabies was stripped out by far by the annual german on german birthrate in the gdr.
As mothers with foreign seed in them gor shamed abortions were common.
Significant western Slavic admixture due to it being the germania slavica (as its with german admixture in you guys) is ofc nothing to denie.

Why? I think this thread's Topic is a rarity on Jow Forums I haven't seen one similar. And I've been here for over 2 years.
Watching now.
Interesting

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>Shalom fellow nazis! This thread is to discuss the life and times of Adolf Marie Hitler, who died on the couch for your sins, and created the nigger tier Jow Forums ideology called national socialism.

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Just gonna leave this one here.
The green dots are mosques

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Eastern germans are said to be more slavishly following orders at the workplace without ever improving on them with their own input as tjat would be a minor deviation.

Political culture was strange tho.
Critique and self critique to break politically affliated people in until they cried to destroy “bourgois individualism“ to the point of them basing their selfworth only on party affliatiok was pretty fucked and one of the reasons the party got so detached from the reality of tjeir failures.

And can you answer which side the Jews had more power over, (((user)))?

How many of these logos are from east germany?

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Why was East Germany named the German Democratic Republic or Deutsche Demokratische Republik? Clearly, citizens wern't voting, right? (it's late here, sorry)

No idea where you got that from. Not a single relative of mine had that happen to him and they were hardly hardcore communists. I am also not saying it was paradis. What I am saying is that what the BRD is now and the west is now is ten times worse. This cultural Marxist-christcuck-neo-liberal Frankenstein Monster is worse than old communism. Also: what you describe unironically sounds like our own political culturw now, especially on universities, and what they have planned for us. The beginnings are there. The firing of Maaßen and the global compact is the beginning of actual Frankfurt School style totalitarianism

>based Dresden with no mosques

Not sure, probably not many. But if your Argument is that we lived more comfortably and made more Money, but the end result is, without hyperbole, to go extinct both culturally and genetically, then I'm rather poor. Because you can always get better with hard work. But even the hardest work can't bring the dead back to the Living.

Saxony generally is the best state. Best education scores, birth rates even without shitskin bonus, attracts new economy too, great landscape and basically a Japan tier ethno-state of 4 million people with 96% ethnic Germans

Also.
US influence in the west doesnt paint a complete picture. The gdr funded leftists of the pacifist and moralist kind knowing that they would weaken the western state until being made useless themselves after the anticipated soviet takeover.
Corbyn got shit for participating in a gdr backed anti atom protest in britain.
The policeman Karl Heinz Kurras who shot an anarchist student leader whose death “justified“ the creation of the RAF turned out to be a gdr plant as well.
Said student leader was most likely encouraged and tracked by communist contacts.

Toxic culture in the west is imho part of a two sided culture war to gain our nondefiant alliance as economic engine and not solely the US doing.

Ossie verpiss dich

Why is Kongo named democratic republic of Kongo? Why is northkorea named democratic Republic of Korea? In fact no country in human history were democratic if it had ”democratic“ in the name.

Although you might argue that Bavaria is still better, since it is generally a powerhouse of Germany. But, sadly, its big cities got massively enriched too.

Happy Hanukka

>they didn't vote
They did, they just didn't have any real choices OR they were forced to vote publicly (one booth for the Communist party candidates, one for the other, had to walk in front of police to vote).

Commies always made a big stink about how "democratic" they were and how much they loved voting.

No. My argument was all multibillion dollar corporations goday originaed from the fdr. More capitalism, more jews

Also 2 month ago I was in east Germany and I first thought I did time travel 40 years back because people still heated their homes with fucking browncoal. The whole city smelled like coal.

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>Baader-Meinhof and the End of the Left:
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Well, also more international socialism more Jews. And to be quite frank with you, user, there are almost no Jews directly owning big companies or media in Germany today. The one Jewish media Mogul is a conservative and married a "shiksa". The Christcuck question is bigger here than the direct JQ

It was for the hardcore commies in charge (aspiring party officials etc) and not regular citizens, sry should have worded that better.
Im pretty butthurt I dont find that blog anymore on ddr culture that had an article about that.

Oh Gott, jetzt kommt der mit Horst Maler

Well, I thought you were Talking About the political elite, too. Speaking of which: Angela Kasmierczak probably went to a program like that. She was FDJ youth secretary for agitation and propaganda after all. Would explain her demeanor. This dead Cold, Zombie like state like someone from an MKUltra program.

tru. Mfw Kraut Rape babies in Holland got BTFO'd. Gotta keep that shit pure baby

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How? Why so assblasted anyway? Haven't they told you that if you go to war you can lose?

Anyway, this is mostly accurate, which is why many DDR Germans are bros and most FRG Germans are cringy cucks. And seriously, leftard Germans are probably some of the most obnoxious leftards on the planet, they're both more spineless and more arrogant than your run-of-the-mill US SJW. I guess it's the combination of post-war FRG self-hatred and the typical "I'm better than you" German flaw. DDR people are actually kinda rural-tough and modest, because the region wasn't really doing great in the 90s and they really did suffer a lot under the Soviet rule.

Basically, what I'm saying is, don't hate on all the Germans, hate on the retarded Berliners. It's the typical city-countryside dychotomy cranked to 11.

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tru shit Polak. Germans vs. Slavs is not le answer

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Because your Nation was created by the Eternal Anglo as war bait and Born out of spite. And being the over confident troublemakers that you are, you brought About the break out of the war through your typical attitude and gave the Anglos the excuse for the war he wanted.

Why you produce so much deutsch milf porn hm ?

The east had AESTHETICS
The west was your boring typical Capitalist country.

Horst Maler. RAF lawyer turned Holocaust denier and Neo-Nazi. Pretty much the shittiest of shitty optics. It's like a Nazi Communist who makes even the most annoying, egomaniac, goy despising Jew like Michel Friedman seem likeable in comparison.

Is communism redpilled?

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Just a reminder, Stalin had plans to kill off all the kikes in the Soviet union but he happened to have died suddenly.

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You realize that poles as a nation were here long before germans?

uhhm I think the Cultural Marxism of the 68er degeneracy is harder to unlearn than being raised in actual socialism with a label "marxist" slapped on.

That's because the East was allowed to copy Prussian aesthetics. The Eternal American blamed all le Evil German imperialism on Prussia and the Jews in ist Government made sure to paint it as one great stream of through of German culture from Luther to Nietzsche to Hitler and created the "Eternal German". No such thing in "leftist" Soviet Union. The DDR hymn was also more patriotic than the western one.

Some of this could be due to East Germans being Slavic/Mongoloid rapebabies.

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If you are indoctrinated into authoritarianism, you'll vote authoritarian. Also poor people vote extrem and god dam is the east a poor wasteland.

Why germans all sound same irl? Same voice ?

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Verpiss Dich

Shut your lieing stupid mouth, Amerimutt and get back to your containment threads

My nation was created in 966, the Eternal Anglo wasn't even around back then. The common misconception is that Poland didn't exist because of the partitions, but it's 100% bullshit since we retained our identity and spent the entire occupation time gearing up for guerilla warfare or actually conducting guerilla warfare. Our 1939-1945 Underground was so massive and well-organized that it actually kinda dwarves what the Vietnamese did against the Americans and the French.

What I'm saying is, don't try to occupy us, we don't take kindly to foreign rule. If you really hate us, you kind of have to nuke us out of existence, but then again - why the fuck would you do that? It's not like we're messing with anyone anyway.

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>be Germany
>start WW2
>blame Poland for losing

That's because Soviet Communism became Russian imperialism. And "Cultural Marxism" is the social Experiment communism and trotzkism that the Soviets had too when the Jews were still running the show. Look into Russia at the October Revolution and early Twenties. They had all that shit. Interracialism, homosexuality, promiscuity, drug abuse, deconstruction of the family. Stalin ended a lot of it, but not all, and ice picked (((Trotzki))) who wanted everlasting world Revolution. Of Course the Jews in the west turned him into the good guy!

Thanks to everyone. I'm going to crash now. I'll watch both of the JudenTube videos tomorrow, in their entirety. The anecdotes have been very insightful. Learned a lot from all whov'e posted. Hope the thread grows and that an Inter-German discourse therein can act as a different perspective for /pol and more importantly for Germany. My hope is that this discussion can break some apparent gridlock between east and west Germans. Maybe Kraut/pol can have an occasional east/west thread

Horst Mahler is the example what can go wrong when you awake from extremist 68er induced commie bullshit to the JQ. He jumped poles of the endpositions of the proverbial horseshoe.
>inb4 muh horseshoe theory
fuck off! Just because the Furryfather is too dumb for it to interprete it doesn't mean it's wrong.
What it means is, you better wander over the arc of the horseshoe to the right instead jumping the endpoints. It's healthier for your mind.

GTFO Amerikike

>Poland didn't exist
True.

>Be nation with a rich history of over a thousand years
>Created by Anglos

Kill yourself

Ich glaube, mit dem Volkslehrer ist es ähnlich. Wenn auch nicht ganz so extrem. Und immerhin ist er positiv.

>Lose ww2
>years later continue to insult white neighbors
>ignore Muslim invasion

t. Jamal Tyrone Kasmierczak 1/74 Pole

Right back at you Amerikike

This. Poland died a long time ago but if we can trick those retards into larping it'll keep Germans and Russians weak.

Not an argument, Kr*utfag

You fucking Germans always start shit and then blame others. Thank the Lord your nation is finally getting put out or its misery and turning into and Islamic caliphate

>be American
>fight for global dominance of Rothschild Zionism and international Elements
>Hand half of Europe to communism

>get eradicated by the Jews and commies you fought for
Karma indeed.

And the Muslims are here because of YOU and your wars for Israel. You Cancer and Nation of race traitors.

This post makes me realize why we have the worst reputation on this board bar none

East germany gave us the queen of all cunts merkel and the eu.

Projection, projection, projection. And the only thing is your abscess and Zog Golem. And thank fuck for that!

I'd rather see the world go to Russia and China than any more years of Pax Judea

Whatever. I'm out. Get fucked Jow Forums. Especially the (((USA)))

>Poland died a long time ago but if we can trick those retards into larping it'll keep Germans and Russians weak.

Comments like this make me embarsssed to be an American sometimes. How the FUCK did Poland die a long time ago when it clearly is still around, it’s people still exist, their language and culture still exist, their architecture is still around, etc.

I don't have too. Oldfag here, born in GDR, lived through elementary school there.
In retrospective GDR socialism was in many ways just nationalsocialism w/ a label "marxist" slapped on and the inefficiency that came with it economically. They taught us "muh Katyn", yet our army goosestepped in fieldgrey uniforms on Mayday to Yorkscher Marsch.
You can easily unlearn gommunism when you have kept your national identity ... and it was a de facto ethnostate. Foreigners (Angolans, Mosambique, Cubans, Vietnamese etc.) were pretty much kept in seperate quaters.
The schools were white and the curriculum was to convey knowledge first.

You’re the one bitching and crying, therefore you’re projecting, brainlet.

It's probably historical illiteracy or wishful thinking. If you could make a nation disappear by defeating its army, Russia would've disappeared after we've taken Moscow. In fact, I don't think there'd be any nations left in Europe. Everyone was occupied by someone else at some point, in many cases that's what shaped our national identities for fuck's sake.

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Excatly. He suffered from Red Pill overdose, yet he didn't "become Jow Forums" because he wasn't normal conservative before (squeek) but a fucking lefty bugman.

>And the Muslims are here because of YOU and your wars for Israel. You Cancer and Nation of race traitors.

It was your incompetent leaders who spread their asscheeks for them and you fucking let them.

We don’t and you’re an autist since almost everyone here is American. Most people with other flags use VPNs

What is unique polish architecture? The Germans colonized the area well before Poland was a thing. The nation of Germanic people's existed long before the government you're thinking of. Poland is a ploy. They were wiped out for a century to which clausewitz claimed that the Polish country was useless anyway. As long as Poland exists, Europe will be weak. That is the Polish legacy and their only lasting achievement.

No Nation is innocent in this. False senses of supremacy make us all more divided.
>watch eurocucks squabble
>mfw Euro Americans work together
We'll be the only motherfuckers with any remnant of German heritage at the rate you're going.

Weak damage control

Wait. Der Volkslehrer was a lefty? Any proof for that?

>We'll be the only motherfuckers with any remnant of German heritage
2% = success

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If we were wiped out for a century, than you've never existed. Poland is an idea, you can't exactly kill it with rifles. And in those terms, there's been 100% continuity from 966 to this day. In genetic terms, we're also the descendants of those 10th century people.

Basically, you're fucking dumb and your shit is all wrong.

>What is unique polish architecture?

What’s unique about any other?

> The Germans colonized the area well before Poland was a thing. The nation of Germanic people's existed long before the government you're thinking of.

Germany partioned Poland along with Austria and Russia. Poland did not exist as an official soverign state for 123 years but its people and culture did and flourished. Germans and Russians could never eradicate their culture and people’s.

>Poland is a ploy.

Except it’s not, it’s a rich nation with over a thousand years plus of history.

> They were wiped out for a century to which clausewitz claimed that the Polish country was useless anyway.

Again, wiped from the map does not mean wiped out as an ethnic group.

>long as Poland exists, Europe will be weak. That is the Polish legacy and their only lasting achievement.

This is just a stupid comment. Europe owes its existence to Poland due to two important events: Stopping the Ottomans at Vienna and stopping the Soviets. Kill yourself for such stupid rhetoric. Poland is the bulwark of Western Christianity.

This

Stop shitting the thread up you obvious mongrel

>What is unique polish architecture
Literally all the architecture in historical Polish cities such as krakow,warsaw,lwow etc.
>They were wiped out for a century to which clausewitz claimed that the Polish country was useless anyway
That's subjective. Anyway germany was also wiped out at various times in history.
>As long as Poland exists, Europe will be weak.
That's just stupid.
>That is the Polish legacy and their only lasting achievement
Yea let's just ignore all the various Polish acheivments and inventions.

>Germans were educated to be common victims of bourgeois capitalism and it reactionary face, fascism, while adapting old traditions from the Prussian army.
This is actually a worse form of brainwashing than the western guilt-tripping. Classic doublethink - being forced to pretend to be something you aren't (a "victim of the bourgeoisie") yet for strategic reasons encouraged to embrace the militarism that is part of the old culture and which contradicts with victim narrative. DDR was USSR's attack dogs and nothing more.

>Poland is an idea
It's a language,and a shitty one at that. The mere presence of Poland means Europe will always be divided and weak. It ensures a thassilocracy like us will always be your economic and political betters. Poles sabotaged the Lithuanian Commonwealth, it's own alliance with Germany after Germany gave it a general government,poles sabotaged the Warsaw pact named after it even,and naturally the accursed poloid rebels against the EU despite Poland joining knowing full well what the consequences would be. The world is weak and weary- because poles just can't stop being poles.

>Critique and self critique
Forcing people to abase themselves and to accept something they know deep down is false is a very effective form of humiliation and control.

(((USA))) fought on the wrong side in WWII and helped commies smash Europe. We've been under Jew grip ever since.
Do you get it mutt?

They did indeed vote. All parties were subsidiaries of the main party though. This was to prevent voter error.

whenever im arguing with Wessicucks, the only argument against me ever is calling me an Ossi

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>Poland is an idea, you can't exactly kill it with rifles.
You can't fight bullets with ideas.

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Are you seriously saying some cultures don't have unique architecture? Post one thing Poland pioneered before anyone else. I'll wait.
>Europe owes its existence to Poland due to two important events: Stopping the Ottomans at Vienna
There were five other ethnic groups fighting the ottomans but of course the eternal poloid takes all of the credit,despite German speaking and cultural austrians doing the bulk of the fighting since it was their city under siege.