What is Jow Forums's opinion on this historical figure? Was she a messenger of God, or a schizo thot? I'm particularly interested in French opinions, if there are any Godly men left in that forsaken place, and not a bunch of wine cooler swilling, striped-pant wearing, beret-cocking, weak-kneed, gamahuche-practicing, white-flag waving cucked faggots.
Please prove me wrong on that last part. And I want to believe that Joan Of Arc was a good, pious woman.
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She's a saint. I don't understand why she's championed by modernists, she would have set them on fire. She was sending threatening letters to the Hussites for rebelling, I can't imagine what she would advocate against transsexual neo pagans. Great woman.
she was used for propaganda thats it
Made up to make women feel good bout bleeding once a month
Also this is true she was quite a fanatic or atleast was used this way to seems like one
Figure head, like all women who are portrayed as war leaders.
Reminder that Joan of Arc died of heat exhaustion and not from the burning pyre.
Totes felt like a pyre tho
Thanks, user. I appreciate it.
She's a saint and was God's way of making sure that England could would not be able to corrupt France during the Protestant revolution.
I had no idea. That's weird.
The Dauphin whose dad was a loony thought she was sane, and there's nothing contemporary about any insanity. The claims of schizo are modern secular people trying to explain heavenly visions.
She gets admired by the more secular FN types because she represents a French hero who expelled the invaders and restored the rightful king.
Interesting. Do you think her actions were divine providence or mere happenstance?
EY YO HOL UP LEMME TELL YALL SUMMIN BOUT MA ANTY JOAN
I'm learning more and more now. Thanks.
No one buys into that kike nigger bullshit.
Not really. If you were burned at the stake you were basically wrapped in flammable material so you died reasonably quickly. If you died through burning it means the executioner fucked up.
I don't think anyone is denying she was a figurehead, and not an actual warrior in the literal sense. A great mascot or cheerleader is helpful, though.
It was divine providence. She could recognise Charles VII even without having ever seen him. Charles was basically a depressed NEET blackpilling about how France was lost and there was nothing he could do about it in Bourges until she came along.
>What followed would become famous. When Joan appeared at Chinon, Charles wanted to test her claim to be able to recognise him despite never having seen him, and so he disguised himself as one of his courtiers. He stood in their midst when Joan entered the chamber in which the court was assembled. Joan identified Charles immediately. She bowed low to him and embraced his knees, declaring "God give you a happy life, sweet King!" Despite attempts to claim that another man was in fact the king, Charles was eventually forced to admit that he was indeed such. Thereafter Joan referred to him as "Dauphin" or "Noble Dauphin" until he was crowned in Reims four months later. After a private conversation between the two (Charles later stated that Joan knew secrets about him that he had voiced only in silent prayer to God), Charles became inspired and filled with confidence.
Do you mean if you die after after living through a burning?
back up whitey yall cant b serus
That's incredible. I'm going to have to look into this more.
Wow,
That's quite literally what she was; she was a standard bearer. Keeping the standard up and advancing despite wounds was inspirational to the army.
At your next football game, shoot your local mascot and if they stick around, your team will play better.
She was a traitor.
God, I hate what these fucks do to history. I'm genuinely sickened by it. They don't even hide it anymore.
The story of Charles VII and Joan of Arc is one of the more interesting episodes in French history, it's worth it
For anyone interested in her, the "history on fire"-podcast has a series about her running:
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This is true, and has been throughout all of history, including with the Roman Vexilarius.
Thanks, user. I also like Charles Martel and Charlemagne.
What do you mean? How so?
Thanks.
You'd like the Song of Roland then
I read that once. Stephen King used it for his inspiration to the Dark Tower series.
The Dauphin she fought for had been disinherited and the English King was legally the King of France.
What? Through marriage? Or did he have a blood claim to the throne?
Most executioners have no fucking idea how to kill efficiently. Best ways are hanging with a long drop, firing squad and the guillotine.
And probably St. Louis (Louis IX) too. There's an interesting anecdote about him and St. Thomas Aquinas that perfectly illustrates what both men were like:
>It is usually forgotten that Saint Thomas Aquinas is both a child and a Saint. One day Saint Thomas was reluctantly dragged to the court of King Louis the Ninth of France, to attend a banquet. When they entered Paris someone showed him from a hill the magnificence of the City, saying: “How wonderful it must be to own all this.” Saint Thomas only muttered : ” I would rather have that Chrysostom manuscript I can’t get hold of.”
>They finally got Saint Thomas seated at his place in the royal banquet Hall. It was the apex of the age of chivalry, and the great hall was jammed with knights. The worn black and white garments of the mendicant friar must have looked out of place amid the colorful shields and pennants of these Crusaders. Saint Thomas spoke politely to his neighbors but said very little, an hour later the banquet was in full swing and everyone had completely forgotten the big Italian friar, who sat as if he was carved of stone. Suddenly there was a pause in the uproar of French conversation. And in that instant, all the plates and cups jumped into the air, as Saint Thomas brought his big fist down on the table with a crash, and yelled as if he were in a trance: “And that will settle the Manichees.”
>Every royal court has its conventions, even if it is the court of a Saint, and everyone was stunned; all eyes turned to the King to see what would happen. It was as if Saint Thomas had thrown a pie at Saint Louis, and many of the knights were prepared to toss the begging friar out the window. Saint Louis merely turned and speaking to his secretaries in a low voice, told them to take their tablets down to the absent minded friar and to copy the argument that had just occurred to him, because it must be a good one, and he might forget it.
>What do you mean? How so?
She betrayed her liege. At that time France was rightfully held by the House of Plantagenet.
Through a dishonest treaty that took advantage of Charles VI's insanity
Just wait till this guy finds out about fatima
I'll fight anyone who talks shit about one of my patron saints.
/oursaint/
He also had eidetic memory and would dictate 3-4 things at once:
>Because of the full accounts we have from the hearings held for his canonization as well as several surviving autograph drafts of some of his early works, we know a good deal about the actual procedures that St. Thomas followed in composing his works. A paleographic study conducted by Antoine Dondaine, a specialist in the field, confirmed that, indeed, St. Thomas truly did dictate to three or four secretaries
Not so much dishonest as having been forged through military victories over the claim, and rivalries in the King's court destabilising France. The Queen agreed to it to end the fighting and put both Kingdoms in the hands of a competent ruler Henry V. If he hadn't died the treaty may have held.
Beautiful. Stealing.
Thanks for all the input gentlemen. I wish a Frenchie had thrown his shekels in, but apparently they're too busy crying about the communism they voted for, throwing poop on government buildings, and being a waste of life, as usual. Still, this has been very enlightening. God protect you all.
She's not Black, das rayciss!!
She got shit done, and when it was done, she got done in.
Blessed, based, pure, saintly.
If only he had written even more
Good thing that didn't happen
You'll have to settle for a Quebecer this time
Actually, that's not a bad way to put it, limey. As a burger, I do like to keep matters simple.
Ah, then you've certainly changed my mind about French Canada. I'd only heard terrible things, but it appears I was wrong.
That's good to hear
oh come off it christfag was she even real?
Yes, this wasn't a time of myth. Letters, accounts, court records all exist to prove her existence.
Usually people on stake lost consciousness quickly because of CO poisoning. So burning was actually pretty painless death.
why is she white here? I thought she was black.
I was always taught that she was a hero and an example of positive feminism. I think she used to be a commonly toted feminist icon until the mainstream started going fully anti-christian in its messaging, at which time she became less useful or relevant.