Should Loli porn be considered Child Pornagrahpy?
Should Loli porn be considered Child Pornagrahpy?
Jayden Davis
Chase Gutierrez
Yes, all who watch it should be hanged with the rest of them.
Owen Bell
Why's that? They are only drawings.
Carson Howard
No, but people should look down on those who make and or enjoy them.
James Robinson
Yes now fuck off, MODS
Isaiah Baker
The excitement comes from the fact that they are children. Regardless of if they are drawings or not, the sexual pleasure is still derived from the same thought process.
Michael Nelson
Pornography in general should not be allowed.
Elijah Martin
cringe and bluepilled
based and redpilled
Ethan Lee
No, it’s weird like furries, but that doesn’t mean we should go around making drawings illegal.
Luke Stewart
on one hand I'm pretty sure most the people who like it are just weebs and not real pedophiles
but on the other hand pedos can get off to this which isn't what I want
I WANT pedophiles to be forced to commit a crime if they want sexual pleasure that badly
I WANT them to get fucking thrown behind bars
jacking off to loli porn only delays the inevitable
Isaiah Jenkins
no, obviously not. how is this even a debate? some people really just can't tell the difference between drawings and real life I guess.
Caleb Barnes
Isn’t there a common idea that guys who are porn addicted tend to not make the effort to ask girls out (they lose the will to do it after they finish jacking it)?
Based on this, wouldn’t loli basically do the same thing and stop creepers from doing real harm?
Caleb Campbell
it depends on the person
some might lose the motivation but others might grow a need for the real thing
Xavier Evans
Yes. It is pornography of children. Child pornography. That should be punishable by castration at the very least.
Camden Ward
Of course not, these retards even want to ban nude historical statues of children and old paintings.
Levi Perry
This
Jose Lee
Yes but could is illegal because I wasade by abusing children.
Loli is made by fat old men drawing on their tablets.
The 1st amendment must protect it, and it should not be outlawed on the basis of it being disagreeable.
Andrew Wilson
>aussie advocates for punishment of thought crimes
Lincoln Diaz
should PAYDAY 2 be considered bank robbery?
Leo Rivera
well you know, if someone plays enough payday, it might not be enough for them at some point and they'll go out and rob a real bank
Dylan Edwards
t. pedo.
Chase Green
So, drawing of pictures is illegal then?
Chase Hernandez
They are the first to the chambers.
Leo Garcia
>MAN OF SHAD
Thomas Carter
yes, but is child pornography supposed to be illegal because produced harming children or because it portrays children being harmed?
protip, the second is wrong or to be coherent we shouldn't have a single depiction of any other crime in our media.
Kayden King
of course just like playing cod makes you good at handling a gun and playing enough god of war makes you a raging half deity that goes on a rampage
Joseph Clark
All art should be illegal
Christian Green
Ok, this is epic.
Jason Russell
You're fucking retarded and intellectually dishonest (or stupid).
Loli is closer to a genre and the furthest thing from fetish shit.
The realword ideal being presented by loli (when it is) hentai isn't fucking children because the reality is literally impossible and incogruent with what's depicted in the fiction.
The idealism and optimal-outcomes of loli =/= the idealistic achievable in reality and doesn't even strive for any semblance of realisticness anyway.
Go attack diaperfags retard.
Find me porn of a loli that's trying to mimic an actual child which is the pornographied you fucking bootsucking faggot and then we could even come close to even having a equal discussion.
Carter Allen
>Find me porn of a loli that's trying to mimic an actual child.
No thanks, unlike you i'm not a paedophile.
Logan Brown
>has only called it a thought crime
>everyone who disagrees with me is a pedofag
Why are you even here??
Carter Roberts
>it's not true lolicon
Jordan Sullivan
gas all pedos
Jace Rodriguez
loli IS child pornography you strayan retard
Eli Wilson
DON'T
FORGET
WHERE
YOU
ARE
If you oppose 2D you oppose Jow Forums, and you will never belong here. Kill yourselves.
Angel Jackson
No because Loli are not citizens.
Also, child porn should be 100% legal if you can prove it's not a child of your nation or your nation's allies.
I don't understand why the law protects random filipinos.
Chase White
This is the most important post in the thread
Jonathan Price
trips don't lie
Evan Allen
It's the concept of it though
Elijah Allen
This would also be fine.
But you'd also need to ban porn for women: the dating websites, and social media linked to your IRL body.
Eli Collins
Der jap
Blake Collins
Checked for being based on the loli question
Cameron Johnson
I'd be down for banning unambiguous loli porn if we can also ban furfaggotry, since that's the analogue to bestiality.
Nathan Walker
No, but it should be shunned as a vice that would exclude a person from respectable group
Blake Hughes
Ian Hall
No if its stated that she is 18+
Juan Flores
From what I hear, loli fags are hated in Japan. Degenerates deserve the gas, no matter how honorary they are.
Nolan Gomez
boys i was browsing Tor and the amount of fuck up porn I've seen is worrying me
some much father daughter pedo shit its actually making me become more of a doomer
William Ramirez
Only if i get tax benefits for having a waifu
Sebastian Campbell
The concept doesn't matter. No one is harmed, it is a drawing. Arresting someone for wanting to diddle little anime girls is enforcement for a thought crime. I can understand not wanting your kids around said person, but they haven't done anything inherently wrong.
Cooper Walker
It isn't important whether loli encourages harm of children or not.
What's important is whether the benefits outweigh the harms.
And the benefit is that roasties get toasty when 2D girls get more attention than them.
Anything that takes attention away from the roastie takes power away from the roastie, and the less power the roastie has, the better.
Porn depicting mixed-race couples is still legal, despite this producing fatherless households.
Child sexual abuse may be harmful but it's uncommon. Single mothers are bloody everywhere. And yet, propaganda supporting single mothers is common.
If it reduces the # of people falling for the 3DPD meme, I support it.
Yes some kids will inevitably get diddled. But for every 1 kid getting diddled as a result of someone playing lolige and getting inspired, there are 1000 salty old hags that are mad that men aren't paying attention to them.
That's a trade worth making.
Chase Reyes
>one is made with pixels and incel sweat
>one is made by sexualy exploiting a child
Gee, I dunno.
Jackson Evans
It's just drawings. Art doesn't harm anyone and should not be regulated by anyone's particular sensibilities. Free speech is something that should be protected.
Luis Wilson
You can't argue with this truth.
Owen Garcia
it is victimless
drawn porn is arguably the ONLY form of porn that should be legal to begin with, to console the mentally wounded but otherwise keep real humans from being a part of the thing itself due to it's extremely detrimental effects on everyone involved
Andrew Evans
this
art attempts to imitate God which is heresy
stop enjoying things
Oliver Sullivan
Found the loli lover
Austin Brooks
Samuel Allen
>can own an AR-15
>can't own lewd pictures of 2d "children"
So much for the land of the "free".
Elijah Parker
kek
Jacob Johnson
Victim-less crime shouldn't be illegal or prosecuted. They should be hunting real child abusers instead, but sadly those are the people who write the law and are trying to get loli banned in the first place.
Noah Long
According to the lolifags and shotafags I've meet over the years. All of them hate 3d children and none of them want children too. They also don't look at the stuff because it is a child but that it cute.
I don't see the appeal but others do.
Henry Gray
Gabriel Ortiz
no
Christian Howard
Heres a doozy for all you loli lovers out there:
Should (realistic) retracings of actual photos be legal?
What about fotorealistic CP drawings that are fictional?
What about CGI CP? What about fotorealistic CGI CP?
Matthew Murphy
>moe fags
I get it though
Gavin Phillips
Justin Cook
Yeah, I forget to mention that most of them are woman.
Nathaniel Thomas
Bot a loli lover but how are drawings accurate depictions?
Tyler Rivera
all porn is child porn all of it, you're in babylon
BABY LON = LEAGUE OF NATIONS.
yearly ball drop in new york makes fun of
all of us for it, first thing for a baby that
drops is its balls, ground hog day is real.
no ones growing up.
Colton Russell
>should lines of ink on paper be considered actual real life child abuse
Do you even hear yourself talk? What is wrong with this world that so many people can't distinguish fiction over reality? Is it a mental defect?
Pic related:
You are the woman
Parker Wood
...
Adrian Hill
This isn't so much about loli, but about drawn pornography in general. Lot of people can draw photorealistically, so the question is if such images (drawn or computer generated) should be treated the same as "real" images, even tho they're victimless
Joshua Roberts
Based nip trips
Lincoln Thomas
No it's a drawing. Did you know you can say all characters depicted are over 18 and you're hands are clean? Weird how you cant do that with real people
Sebastian Perry
Haven't seen a teamup between these two countries this good since the 1940s!
Jace Walker
Should guro be considered equivalent to actual snuff porn?
Lincoln Hill
>britbongs actually advocating for thoughtcrime
What a surprise...
Colton Lopez
>Lot of people can draw photorealistically,
yet they do not alter reality.
>so the question is if such images (drawn or computer generated) should be treated the same as "real" images, even tho they're victimless
They are art, art should not be illegal. Besides, victimless crimes are a nebulous concept.
Elijah Cruz
>you can say all characters depicted are over 18 and you're hands are clean?
Same could be said for amateur CP since the police probably can't pinpoint the *exact* age of the victim.
You can draw a toddler and say it's a 40year old. You can draw a lion and say it's a giraffe.
Doesn't make it so. (And won't hold up in any court)
Ian Turner
Not really. Here in Sweden they ruled that people get excited by the cute aspect rather than being a child.
Evan Bailey
should fight scenes in cartoons be considered assault
Jack Robinson
wowo
Asher Ward
>They are art, art should not be illegal.
For simplicity, let us assume the images in question are purely pornographic and have no artistic merit
Asher Miller
Watching a 2D murder and not reporting the crime should be accessory to murder, you horrible faggots.
John Anderson
Actually it would, and actually you can tell if something is computer generated. So how can you not make a distinction between the two, because it's there? And yes with real porn it is hard to distinguish between the ages. But you have a harder burden of proof with that
Xavier Baker
>leftists:
>YOUR LOLIS ARE REAL NOT 2D DRAWINGS YOU SICKO
>also leftists:
>YOUR WAIFU IS NOT REAL SHE IS ONLY A 2D DRAWING YOU WEIRDO
Liberals. Not even once.
Lucas Roberts
What is pornography?
>inb4 Scalia cop out
Jace Harris
Yes. Not an inch should be given to degeneracy.
Xavier Wright
Look at how she can't comprehend the idea that fiction is not real. British people were a mistake.
Evan Price
Well.. shit.
Oliver Gonzalez
If 2d children are real and need to be protected then what about all the alternate universe children? Did you know there are an infinite amount of alternate universes out there right now with an infinite amount of alternate universe children of which an infinite amount of them are being abused right now as we speak? In fact in as many as an infinite of those infinite alternate universes it could be a judge, policeman, doctor, or even you abusing said child! How dare this atrocity continue! Please think of the infinite alternate universe children!
James White
based, this was the church's approach to degeneracy in general
Bentley Green
based jap decimates the larpers
Isaac Jones
If they are only representations of possible alternate realities there will be no problem then.
If they are real, meaning that there has been an event that has really happened in our reality, they should be illegal.
I know, you fucking retard, you want to know where to draw the line; "What is white?" etc. It will be drawn intuitively, and in that case, if an image is indistinguishable from a representation of a real event, the burden of proof lies with the image creator to prove that the image is indeed not-real.
For simplicity: I advocate for the current laws. Child pornography should be legal, cartoons and art not. The line is not clear and will decided case by case basis, if needed.
Christian Turner
both based posts
Jayden Lee
>actually you can tell if something is computer generated.
For now, maybe. But I'd say we're well on the way to being able to completely generate fake videos on the computer (which even experts won't be able to distinguish)
The technology is maturing rapidly. And the legal questions beg to be answered, both in terms of this topic, but also with regards to using photo / video evidence in courts in the future in general.
CCTV footage is often blurry. I wouldn't be surprised if it could already be faked without experts being able to tell if there was tampering. pic somewhat related
Caleb Foster
drawing naked people is literally one of the most ancient human pastimes. there are countless cave paintings of nude figures representing sexuality.
Kayden Johnson
finally someone with a common sense since its in a gray area
Anthony Torres
It always leaves a trail. We may not know what the trail is, but it will always be able to be known when there is tampering