Why do Americans hate unions while they have the shittiest working conditions out of any 1st world country?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/At-will_employment
>At-will employment is a term used in U.S. labor law for contractual relationships in which an employee can be dismissed by an employer for any reason

American worker has no rights. The idea was to free trade and be replaced by niggers and Mexicans for money, Americans agreed because they are Christian cucks, but not they have second thoughts, since some aren't happy with salary provided by boss. Needless to say Americans don't know what Socialism or union even means.

Union scumbags need to die.
Pinkertons did NOTHING wrong.

No they aren’t. You do understand that unions are localized, right?

Unions destroyed America's blue collar job market. They abused their power and drove companies out of business. All of the jobs were sent overseas. Unions in America were also controlled by the mafia as a racket.

Why is America so cucked?

Verbal diarrhea.

Verbal diarrhea.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Workers'_Union
>The Australian Workers Union (AWU) is one of Australia's largest and oldest trade unions.
>Eight-hour day march
>Support for White Australia policy

Well then work longer and be Asian.

they're lazy, overpaid and typically do shitty work.

Americans are stupid brainwashed people. They will believe anything as long as they are told it's part of being free.

- Get circumcised because you are free
- You go bankrupt from going to the hospital to treat a broken toe, because you are free
- You are a slave to your corporate overlords because you are free
- Eat shit foods that will make you fat and sick, because you are free

And so on...Modern day USA is country built on brainwashing propaganda run by the Jews and for the Jews benefit.

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Because every 5 or 10 years a new group of kids hit the work force and they think working 50+ hours a week is something to be proud of.

Unions have not been about employees for almost a century. They are about power.

>overpaid
lol

Non-white population of Canada is increasing drastically in comparison with the US. The only point that's relevant is circumcision, which is terrible, but Canada also has a high rate.

Americans think that they live in a "1st world country"

As a union member, I agree. I'm not lazy (majority of my co-workers are) and I take pride in the quality of work I do, but I do get paid more than my private sector counterparts by a good 30% and have better benefits.

ironically conservatives will only embrace the usage of government power when it comes to union breaking lol

democrats simply import foreign races to get around unions

It's always a the same story. Unions allow laziness and not actually working for what you get. Every person who actually works hard in them is always a minority.

Back in the 80s the republicans went full ancap noninterventionist because their kike donors wanted it so. Before, unions were fairly neutral but nowadays Republican lawmakers constantly try to abolish unions and wonder why they all vote blue

Unions don't hire workers, bosses do. Are you that retarded to not understand basic logic?

Where did I say they did? Are you that retarded to not understand basic logic?

based leaf. I'm a diehard conservative and everything you said is pretty spot on.

Our medical system was pretty good up until about the year 2000. I would have taken our 1960 to 1990 medical system over any in the world. Now I think we have one of the worst in the world for both cost and treatment. We have the worst of both worlds now.

Americans are addicted to sugar. Processed foods and carbs are a norm. Hence, too many fat fucks. Cute little town just south of me had an area for two new restaurants. Guess what comes in..a fucking Taco Bell and McDonalds. Those restaurants are already just a mile up the road. What the fuck? I wouldn't even call those restaurants...but there is a burrito at Taco Bell I can eat every once in a while.

Yes, we are stupid brainwashed people. It's getting worse too. This younger generation has their head up their asses so far that they can not tolerate different perspectives. Television and Social Media is the ultimate cuckery.

kek...some parts are. Most of it isn't.

Government workers are in a union. That chaps my hide.

It was white, Anglo-Saxon American Protestants, you know, the cream of the crop, that sold white people's future to the Jews. Pointing out that Canada has less white people than the US is a futile, desperate act of burying your head in the sand to avoid hearing the truth.

Yes, and it's infuriating seeing the shit my co-workers get away with and knowing we all get paid the same. Since there isn't much management can do about it, they just put the bulk of the work and responsibility on the few who actually do their job.

My personal experience with unions, part 1
>working as industrial firefighter at auto plant. Have to work 1 year before you can join the firefighters union. Making $16/, weekends & night because not union. Working old, dangerous plant because not union. Once I join the union I will jump to $30/hour, get better postings
>firefighters office at plant is filthy; grimes windows, floor literally covered in dirt, trash overflowing. I get told by supervisor to get janitorial to clean it.
>ask the janitors to clean up once a week for 2 months. Nothing. Learn from a guy on the line how to file formal work requests. File a work request every week for 2 months. Then get a shift leader to countersign a work request. Nothing. In desperation (hard to work from the stink) I bring in a garbage bag and clear out some of the trash
>next shift the floor boss comes in, takes me to the union steward. He has a bunch of forms. Says he have evidence I took out a bag of trash. Say hell, yeah, the room was overflowing and janitorial refused to do their job.
>he gets obviously furious, starts shouting about me taking work from a union man, calls me a scab and a lackey.
>one of the forms is a formal union complaint from the lazy-ass janitor; told that because I am not union yet it adds six months to the waiting period to join the union and if there is any more evidence of me cleaning the office I get fired.
>ask when the janitor is going rto clean the office, steward orders me out, pissed
Got plenty more

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Sounds like a non-union environment too. 20% do the work.

I know that, dumbass, the point is yours sold you out even harder.

Trade unions operate on a book. The union decides who is hired

Anf thats a good thing and it's beautiful, fuck interviews

You implying union has something to do with illegals, which is complete opposite, unions don't want illegals, they want American workers. Bosses want illegals. Now you making stupid logic in already corrupt environment, like if union is responsible for boss having to pay normal salary to illegal, like if this is problem of unions. This is problem of bosses, they shouldn't even hire illegals and foreigners, then they wouldn't have problems with unions. The problem of boss with union is that bosses want to exploit people and national debt has nothing to do with private debt of boss.

>unions destroyed blue collar jobs
no, free trade did

What a load of lies. Who was the liar that said this bullshit?

No they don't. Everybody who was employed anywhere knows that.

Because they are paid by the governement as we see in france, real strugle should not be lead by jew and communist.

Ouch. Welcome to Murica! How's that vacation?

t. Murican

mafia Marxism most of them just sit on there ass all day do jack over paid they ask for impossible shit sometimes its really fucking stupid they shut down fucking hole entire braces of company's in country's like Australia car industry.

>I never heard of the AFL-CIO, NEA, SEIU, because I am an ignorant faggot
Translated that for you, son

They shut down your car industry because bosses moved companies abroad you stupid retard. You even export garbage to China because you incompetent retard.

abc.net.au/news/2018-04-15/bales-of-recycling-material-at-smrcs-regional-resource-recover/9657866
>About 30 per cent of Australia's recyclable waste is exported to China.

It's not unions that are to blame for that behavior. Unions are a reflection of the society that spawns them. Germans have unions, and their companies produce high quality products, and their economy is highly productive, and this is because the Germans (and others), take pride in their work, and don't see being part of a union as an excuse to be a shithead. I know this, because I used to work for Siemens, have gone to Germany, and have seen first hand what their work ethic looks like.

I live in what is called a "Right to work State" which means a company and/or employee can cease the work agreement at any time without question. Unions are not popular here. We took 3 plants from the Detroit area and they are thriving here. Pay and benefits for the workers is good. They are not bad places to work if you can get a job there. Still, no unions.

>what is the taft-hartley act

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Detroit turned out so great, too. I don't get it.

Unions always, and will always team up with management to screw you over.

Only unions representing workers whose employer gets paid by the goverment (contruction, etc) survive, otherwise they sink the whole ship.

burgers have been brainwashed for years into believing billionaires pulled themselves up by their bootstraps and deserve tax breaks but the common worker should remain a modern day slave.

they will bend over backwards to yell mcarthyisms at anyone who suggests that maybe the common american deserves to live a better life

Not every State is a union State. Go to a 12 step meeting in a union friendly state and hear what really goes on at these places. No wonder American cars were shit for 20 years. Everyone was high on the line.

I can go into detail on how the books work if you like. It's a real thing for every construction trade I know of except general laborers

Ever thought about writing a book and giving it the title "Burgerism"? I'll help co-write.

We are
Want to know how rich Americans really are?
If Germany were to become a US state it would be poorer than Alabama. Only Arkansas and Mississippi would be poorer. That is GDP, GDPpC, and PPP.

I live a 60 minute drive from Alabama. My city is loaded with homeless at every intersection and store parking lots. Thanks for the heads up, I'll send them to Alabama.

>unions don't want illegals
in americunt they do

American and Austrian bosses don't know shit about economy, they are retarded Jew sperm slurping exploiting low IQ faggots and they don't work, never worker and never will work, they will only sell USA and replace workers for lower paid illegals or move companies abroad once they finished selling USA and Australia. Don't delude yourself, you don't know shit about economy. Btw you don't want to work for those low salaries, not a chance in hell you would work for your own medicine. You think some boss will pay you more than he needs? Who can be that dumb to believe this? You got foreigners because they don't want to pay you more, they hire niggers because they know they lower the salary expenses, because each of those bosses of capitalism are retards who take Juden credits, but can't produce profit, since they wasted it on their dumb boomer stocks and hooker orgy parties. Unions have nothing to do with profit of bosses.

That does not disprove the existence of the books

Saying that "unions are marxist" is truly stupid. A union can only exist in a free market, as workers need to be able to collect their money so they can afford to strike. Unions don't violate the NAP. While its true that most of them support cancerous social policies, it's not a trend that cant be reversed. If you are a blue collar worker that cares for his nation and freedom even a tiny bit, than you should join a union, climb its ranks and steer its social activism in a direction that you like

International agreements are signed by politicians, workers are hired by bosses. Unions have nothing to do with that.

What books? Trump controls tariffs and he just signed for you to import Mexicans and move jobs abroad. Do you even into reality?

kek..it is so much more complicated than that. You won't climb the ranks of a union if you are not politically connected. This utopia you speak of does not exist.

>I know what a Brazilian or Mexican thinks of this quote
L0Lno you do not, fgt pls

then why do the unions want illegals?

>Verbal diarrhea.
...from U

They don't. Illegals are already in USA, imported by bosses, nobody else. Don't import them and you won't have illegal problems.

>Who was the liar
It was Kurt Vonnegut, you ignorant retard.

The part were americans hate poor people is 100% true. Try talking about "free" healthcare in US here.
Is not even about agreeing or not, is about the way americans reject the idea.
>I don't want to sustain a bunch of poor retarded fucks that can't even pay my health insurance plane
Like every person in the country had the same conditions, or could just snap out of poverty any time. The system needs poor people, thats why they will always exist.

What kind of shithole place do you live in? Is it like that all over the US? Imagine getting reprimanded for cleaning up some rubbish. What a fucking joke.

Unions were infiltrated and became mismanaged extortionists who don't help with improving work conditions anymore.

>industrial firefighter at auto plant
what does that mean? You're in charge of fire safety in the plant?

>It's
>Okay
>To be
>Poor

Jobs were being outsourced because of unions decades before free trade began.

Why are Germans so dumb that they think unions are good?

Unions mean the workers gives up his right to decide what amount of money he's willing to work for. And he gives it up to an organization bloated with fatcat administrators. He gives it up to an organization that protects the shittiest, lazies, thieving-est workers.

Or to put it another way:

If you're upset others are willing to work for a wager lower than you're willing to work, that's your problem. Don't blame Americans or lack of unions.

Non sequitur

>Unions should only keep businesses from taking advantage of people.

No. People can keep businesses from taking advantage of them by not working for companies that do that. Which is exactly what unions do: they stop work.

You do not need unions if you want to do that.

Unions has nothing to do with the fact 100000 companies in USA hire illegals. That's your individual dumb retarded boss on credit's problem. And also illegals buy in supermarkets, again not union or government's problem, you private shit company's problem that wants to sell products to everybody. Do you know what everybody means? That means you got migrants and that again means you will be fucked over in your own country. Stop hiring illegals, stop feeding illegals, stop selling housing to illegals and you won't have problems. None of this is any goddamn problem of unions.

>In other news: American nationalists wants to deport mexican workers because they are stealing our jobs

Are you presuming everything Vonnegut said was true and correct? If so, you should teleport to Tralfamador.

>Unions mean the workers gives up his right to decide what amount of money he's willing to work for

Lie.

Contractors can pay you above scale if they want.

Part 2
>after college I was an IT consultant, got hired to revamp a state office network print system, get a cubicle in a quiet corner
>Twin Cities have two daily papers. Every morning the guy opposite me would come in at exactly 7:58 with both newspapers. He would clock in, full his massive mug with coffee, sit down, and read one paper while drinking coffee, then cut out the crossword and take a piss. He would refill his mug, read the other paper, cut out the crossword, take a piss, and then take a 90 minute lunch.
>when he returned he would work on a crossword. Once done he filed it in drawer A. Then the other, eventually filed in drawer B. Finally, about 3 in the afternoon, he would turn on his computer, read his work emails, answer them, and turn it off. At 4:56 on the dot he would leave the cube so he could clock out at exactly 5:00
>Fridays had a variation. His computer was turned on after the second paper and he would download a spreadsheet and print it. At 3 he would use the fax in his cube to fax it.
>after a while I asked, was told: in the 70s the feds created a requirement for a report to be sent once a week. Then it took a clerk all week to gather the data by hand, type it up, and the old fax machine could take forever, so the department had a dedicated clerk, fax, and landline just for that weekly federal report. The guy in the cube took over as clerk in the mid-80s.
>now a SQL database autogenerated the report and the fax took 2-3 minutes, but the position was a union job and, well, after he retired or died they might submit the forms to get rid of it
>could not give the guy more work, was had been union steward for a decade and still had a ton of power in the union. Besides, under union rules they would have to increase his pay if he had more duties and because of seniority, being a former steward, etc he was already making $62/hour

it will be a truly great day when 50% of german GDP simply evaporates and your average hans is on the living standard of romania or bulgary. I will be enjoying watching this.

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Most Americans work a lot harder than Germans; the unions are different.
Did you forget OP?

Ouch. Was going to share a similar story, but not sure it reaches even close to that level.

It amazes me that people don’t know what Big Business used to do in this country. Shoot striking workers, pay them in company scrip. This is the “”””””free market”””””” trumptards want to take us back to.

>Americans telling you why unions in the US suck
>your reply is based on experience with non-American unions
You have trouble with addition, too?

>Yes I want my fellow white brother to suffer poverty and disgrace.

And this my friends is the reason why all amerimutts are either dying of heroin or crack overdose, they got no sympathy for people who are below them in the pyramid.

Americans are truely milionaires in disgrace.

Unions became too powerful. It isn't about the worker anymore. People that literally do nothing all day or are a problem for the company need to be let go. Union workers have no pride, they think they are entitled. Maybe not all of them, but too many of them.

>shittiest working conditions

>1st world country
Pick ONE faggot.

My god, you german's get more dumb every post I see on here.

>what is a PAC

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Unions decide nothing, since you have completely free market now, you even sold gold, because you don't need any backups. It's all about taking credits, hiring workers for those credits, meanwhile storing money abroad, since you know your company will go broke, then you have ready cash to repeat that process and future doesn't matters. Future is for future people to suffer, that's literally how every boss things.

Georgia?

youtube.com/watch?v=jElVTVLMknw

Damn..I wish what you said did not have any truth to it. It's true. Amerimutts judge people by what they do and what they make. First thing someone asks you when you meet.."what do you do for a living". Yeah, it's small talk. It's also a means to measure someone. If someone is hurting or going through rough times they are ignored or ostracized.

Nashville..right up Hwy 65

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Which is why unions were needed before cars became a common household item. People are able to pack up and leave to another town if needed for better work unlike in the past when transportation was much more difficult.(trains where limited)

This is true, do not blame the "free market" however. Workers in socialist countries had worse working conditions and didn´t even have the choice to strike. Unions are what keep the free market from becoming the exploitative hell that leftists envision. They use the might of free purchasing power to achive their needs.