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>The Holocaust deniers agreed to pay Mermelstein the $50,000 prize, an additional $50,000 in damages, and to issue a letter of apology.

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Is this the case where the proof was one person's story about being taken to the gas chambers six times but then whisked away to the hospital at the last second because they looked too sick to be executed?

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>Don't think something happened
>Get sued
Wow so this is freedom?

>its real goys he got his 50 grand.

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Still it didnt happen.

>deathcamp
>survived
The nazis were so fucking inept its crazy. In pic related a man survived a gas chamber six times.

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So this scamming jew cunt sent a notarised letter that his lawyer wrote as """proof""" that he was a holocaust survivor and the fuckwit american judge said nobody could contest the facts of the case because "it was common knowledge that nazi gas chambers were real"" and ordered the holocaust denier to give shekels.
American justice everybody.
Pay up goy.

He was gassed fi-no six times at Auschwitz alone. Then the Nazis transferred him to Dachau where they had a chamber filled with giant moving knives. By G-d's grace alone he escaped that fate.

>Jewish lawyer uses obscure legal loophole to defend another Jew's con artist business

Never seen that before.

I can't wait til muslims take over germany and they stop letting people say that Germans commited the holocaust.

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>this one's not healthy enough to die!

Oy vey!

The horror.

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It's insane. The entire point of the case is about whether or not it happened.

Imagine a murder trial where the judge just said someone is guilty from the start because it was "common knowledge" that the person was guilty.

I fucking hate kikes so much.

Imagine the humiliation of having to pay the kike. I'm embarrassed just as a common American. I would probably flee the country.

This is what the "proof" was.

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Really puts the jews are money grubbing parasites stereotype to bed

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i know its nuts. whats even crazier is how the Jews can run this absolutely air tight conspiracy hoax for 80 years, starting with planting evidence in the middle of a huge war, have Nazis, Russians, Americans, Brits everyone on their payroll towing the line with zero dissent or people saying fuck it and exposing the whole thing, but then this random Jew talks about getting gassed 6 times, or writes a story about a holocoaster, and intrepid internet detectives from the 21st century thus debunk the whole lie citing this one weird account! i guess even the international jewish illuminati conspiracy has its off days

That fucking jew used a legal loophole to jew some money. What else is new? I fucking hate jews so much. Schindlers list wiki page is fucking awesome.
>Controversy arose in Germany for the film's television premiere on ProSieben. Protests among the Jewish community ensued when the station intended to televise it with two commercial breaks of 3–4 minutes each. Ignatz Bubis, head of the Central Council of Jews in Germany, said: "It is problematic to interrupt such a movie by commercials".[68] Jerzy Kanal, chairman of the Jewish Community of Berlin, added "It is obvious that the film could have a greater impact [on society] when broadcast unimpeded by commercials. The station has to do everything possible to broadcast the film without interruption."[68] As a compromise, the broadcast included one break consisting of a short news update framed with commercials. ProSieben was also obliged to broadcast two accompanying documentaries to the film, showing "The daily lives of the Jews in Hebron and New York" prior to broadcast and "The survivors of the Holocaust" afterwards.[68]
>oy vey 2 commercial breaks?!?!?!?

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There is no doubt that jews were put in concentration camps along with other non-desirables. However what is in question is the gas chambers and the massacres which there is no proof of. The Jews in Palestine loved Hitler because he was sending all of the Jews to Palestine until the British stopped it. Watch any western documentary about the Einsatzgruppen and you will find that there is little proof death squads even existed and that any massacres that did happen were perpetrated by locals and the Germans are only guilty of neglect. The real problem with the holocaust is that there is no proof and that anything that anybody says is just taken as fact because fuck it the nazis are evil. Read about the Nuremberg trials and you find that they were kangaroo courts. There is no proof that the Germans were trying to genocide jews during ww2.

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Many of these massacres are also the work of the Soviet NKVD. Killing millions of Polacks and Ukrainians to quell nationalism and then blaming Germans for it.

It's absurd how reddit NPC's today don't trust any news agencies owned, funded or even remotely related to Russians. Yet they believe the actual government of the USSR on their word. Insane.

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Everybody knows the sun goes round the earth. It's so well known that it can't realistically be debated. Thus I award the jewish synagogue 50,000 silver coin to be paid by Copernicus.

the Einzatsgruppen literally documented their killings. you wanted documents right?
>ibitsajewforgery!
and the Jews didnt stop the Haavara Agreement, the war stopped it. who started that?
Also why does little meme map not include Mauthausen in Austria, where gas chambers existed, or the Euthanasia centers in Germany and Austria were people were gassed or given lethal injections (Jews or others no longer able to work)? And why even post this retarded meme map when everyone knows the vast majority of Jews were in Central and Eastern Europe, and the purpose of the death camps was to quickly get rid of those Jews that fell into Nazi hands and were in the ghettos, as well as keeping most of the killing away from the "real word" back in Germany?
>There is no proof that the Germans were trying to genocide jews during ww2.

heres what genocide means
>(a) Killing members of the group;
>(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
>(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
>(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
>(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

even if you want to exclude mass shootings and mass gassings (which did happen, and you're just wrong because you dont know anything and dont care to read), starving and working people to death is still genocide.
>ibmuhsupplylines
rofl

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> Bergen-Belsen was worse because the people were gassed right away so they didn't suffer for a long time
> people stayed months and months until they died - they suffered for a long period of time
WHICH ONE IS IT PEER

So this Jew found himself a way to profit from holocaust denial. Oy vey.

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I like at the bottom of the document it merely states the jews are solved and then they put under that that he killed them. Even though the document says nowhere that they killed them. Why do they never let the evidence speak for itself? Anyways all those jews were killed and placed where? where are the mass graves? Also nobody in human history has ever shot hundreds of people in a line without getting severe ptsd. So there is this battalion of guys just killing hundreds of people between them? I doubt it.

Also the Jager report wasn't found until 15 years after the war and the man who wrote it commited suicide allegedly. It couldhave been written by anyone with a typewriter. It is literally fake and gay.I found an excerpt about your mom being a prostitute too. It is typed and says she fucked 400 men a day.

read it again. "exekutionen" at the bottom, adding in a few thousand more to the total number. really you need to stop playing games. the document makes it plain these people were killed, there was no euphemisms like with the gassings, its "jews killed" "jews executed". thats why the deniers like to ignore this one or hand wave it. here's the full 7 pages:
phdn.org/archives/holocaust-history.org/works/jaeger-report/htm/img001.htm.en.html
>where are the mass graves?
all over the place in the Baltics, Ukraine and Russia. no one really cared that much about Jews specifically considering the mass slaughter that was going on during Operation Barbarossa
>lso nobody in human history has ever shot hundreds of people in a line without getting severe ptsd. So there is this battalion of guys just killing hundreds of people between them? I doubt it.
thats part of the reason they switched to gassing. They had to get the Einzatsgruppen drunk before operations, there were suides and desertions. Himmler himself got physically sick during an execution in Minsk that he witnessed at close range and some of the blood/brains got on him

it sounds like you're using motivated reasoning. you guys want documents proving Jews were gassed, but if they found one saying they were gassing Jews (which there are btw, just with gas vans), you'd just call it fake and gay. Its literally an unfalsifiable narrative, like white privilege. Can't prove it doesn't exist/can't prove it wasn't hoaxed!!

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Ok but what proof is there that it is an official German document? There is more proof that it is written by soviets than by Germans. Considering it was found 15 years later and that the soviets found it.

>gas vans
are you serious? it would take hundred of gas vans to be effective. Killing 12 jews every 2 hours in a van is not efficient at all. You also have to reload the gas.

Here at pol/ we celebrate the 'caust, not deny it.

what fucking difference does it make when it was found? the Allies got reports of gassing of Jews as early as 1942, right in the middle of the war, this means by denier retard logic the hoax had already started by then, before anyone knew who would win. So does it matter who found it or when if you're just going to knee-jerk say or imply it was fake, or hoaxed, or its part of the conspiracy? come on dude

Welcome to Wemeirica. Kikes in robes have gone to fucking far executive orders that Trump words exactly like Obama's get blocked but they never blocked the fucking niggers EOs. These judges do a lot of sneaky shit like sneak out of the country to go meet the Pope in Mexico when they're not supposed to and design federal court buildings to look like weird Masonic pyramids and other weird fucking shit. Threadly reminder that these people don't own Justice we citizens simply turned it over to them because it was better than lynching back when they did their jobs now they need to fucking hang in Mine craft.

They were shot, gassed, worked to death. War is hell.

the gas vans were experimental (actually the NKVD were the first to get the idea) before permanent gassing facilities at the major camps (Auschwitz and the AR camps) were built
holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2015/10/contemporary-german-documents-on.html#_doc10
>6.) Greater protection is needed for the lighting system. The grille should cover the lamps high enough up to make it impossible to break the bulb. It seems that these lamps are hardly ever turned on, so the users have suggested that they could be done away with. Experience shows, however, that when the back door is closed and it gets dark inside, the load pushes hard against the door. The reason for this is that when it becomes dark inside the load rushes toward what little light remains. This hampers the locking of the door. It has also been noticed that the noise provoked by the locking of the door is linked to the fear aroused by the darkness. It is therefore expedient to keep the lights on before the operation and during the first few minutes of its duration. Lighting is also useful for night work and for the cleaning of the interior of the van.

all those lice trying to escape i guess

no, not with the Nazis. they're really cool and badass (thats why we larp about being them in 2018) and fucked up all of Europe and half of Russia, but they really couldn't bring themselves to kill their racial enemies, the Jews. they just wanted to keep them safe, really!

There is no secret vast conspiracy. The soviets made it up and jews like the slimy vermin they are ran with it because it made them lots of money. There were no mass executions and the Soviets were just projecting. The Jager report is fake and gay. There is no original of the document and nobody knows where it came from. It is made up. You will actually be hard pressed to find any original documents proving the holocaust and any documents you do find have no trail or way to verify their claims. Every single document was found years later and there is no real source for it and nobody is around to verify any of the claims. It is the definition of planted. There is not even a fucking signature on it.

How the fuck could anyone listen to her bullshit and think, yeah this happened?

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are you fucking retarded? by your own ideological reasoning, nothing can be sourced, nothing can be verified, nothing is original, because everyone is part of the conspiracy! this secret jewish conspiracy literally controlled every side of the war and no one spilled the beans for 80 years, what problem would it be for them to forge a document? you're just too biased to be having this debate, its probably gonna end with "they deserved it anyway" rofl so whats the point. the debate is basically over when you realize that the Nazis shipped millions of people to camps that could hold a few thousand for "special treatment" and all the deniers can do is distract from this basic mathematical impossibility is dragging you down into the weeds with bullshit or just hand waving everything as fake, fake, fake because my fee fees told me so

Here's the case:
>I bet $50,000 that no one can prove the holocaust
>I'm suing you for the $50,000.
>Judge: The holocaust obviously happened goy so pay up.

There wasn't even a court case.

So you admit white genocide is real then, right Chaim?

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I only celebrate real events sorry

Because if you disagree that the nazis killed millions then that would imply that the war was bullshit. The only way to justify the war in Europe is the Holocaust otherwise we just helped the soviets beat the Germans. Even the defense of poland is a bs excuse because we just handed it over to the soviets. If the Nazis are super bad guys then we defeated evil and the war was good. So even the US knows the Holocaust is bs but we had to go along with it or else we just lost a bunch of men for no reason and handed half of Europe to the communists.

it doesn't mean any of the UN definitions of genocide but white population replacement is def. going on. every normie that listens to Tucker knows that

Funny how you used to claim every camp was a death camp and when that got proven lies the only death camps are in the east and had to be reconstructed by the soviets you know those murdering bastards who would photoshop people out of pics? 20 million died in the holodomor but you don't care because the jews never made it their mission in life to make you care about dead whites the jews killed. Winston Churchill wrote what a 10 volume definitive history of ww2 and never mentioned the holocaust once. Only in the 1970s did it really pick up steam. Does gassing jews make them skinny?

yeah, sorry. The Nazis conquered all of Europe (and the Japan all of East Asia) just by accident and self defense. If it wasnt for the Jews i'm sure we would have all just gotten along and it would be peace on earth forever after this

Except it wasn’t airtight and everyone wasn’t in on it. The most influential actors in on it were media jews. Back then there wasn’t an internet, so overwhelming propaganda coming from the major media outlets couldn’t be counter-signaled hard enough. The myth of the holocaust really made strides with the 1978 Holocaust miniseries. That’s when it rose to the prominence about where it is now.

>it doesn't meet [insert jewish nwo] definition therefore its not happening!

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>>(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

Happy Hannukah, Rabbi!

So you admit white genocide is a real thing with that above statement?

>latimes.com/local/california/la-me-census-latinos-20150708-story.html
>It's official: Latinos now outnumber whites in California

>>(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;


Why do you kikes scream about your phony "holohoax" yet on the same token you're working to subvert America and turn it into a 3rd world brown skinned illegal alien infested shit hole?

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who proved the lies? Jow Forums tier deniers that can't name 6 countries in Europe? or real historians that do actual research? and its typical of retards in this debate, when they realize they aren't smart or well read enough to make an actual argument, to shift gears to Soviet or Bolshevik crimes like anyone is defending them, the most brainlet tier strawman possible. its embarrassing.

It would have been a cold war with the nazis rather than the commies. Are you dense?

What beans? My first post said that concentration camps existed. There is no vast conspiracy. There were concetration camps but there were no gas chambers. There was no genocide. The Germans were losing the war and people got sick and died of starvation. It happens and it is sad. There were no gas chambers though and there is very little proof that the einsaztgruppen even existed except for the JAger report. There is no proof operation east even happened. However the narrative has been changed in order to make the nazis look like monsters in order to justify the war.

i'm not Jewish but mass immigration in and of itself doesn't exactly meet c) especially if the absolute number of whites is probably higher than ever before (although that will probably change)

No, the judge declared the holocaust was sel-evident and therefore not requiring further evidence.

no single person actually believes the holocaust just didnt happen. It was exaggerated so the jews couldnt get kicked out of countries anymore

Yes you larp and fantasize about fictional shit and you traded in your guy fawkes mask and dnd dice for a red armband and some Warhammer miniatures so edgy.

And what evidence is there that "special treatment" means killing? The allies cracked the enigma code early during the war effort and they found nothing that alluded to Jewish extermination by the hands of the Nazis. Even FDR and Churchill made no mention of the holohoax having taken place until well into the 50's when the holohoax narrative had already become mainstream thanks to our Jewish controlled media. Where is the footage of gassings taking place or even pictures for that matter? How do you kill 11 million people (6 million jews + other minorities according to most (((historians)))) while fighting a war in two fronts and facing fuel shortages that have crippled your army to the breaking point? It doesn't make any fucking sense, you retarded commie.

yeah no shit. i'm talking about larpers who think that WW2 was an unnecessary war run by the Jews, like America and Britain would have just let a hostile alliance take over half the planet

>fictional shit
You mean like the holohoax?

>like America and Britain would have just let a hostile alliance take over half the planet
America and britain did just irl. Thats the point.

The jews were talking about 6 million and holocaust since the 1920s and also said Saddsm was building literal nazi gas chambers. You're either a jew or you enjoy being their slave. Here's a redpill most of Jow Forums doesn't understand most slaves Don't Want to Be Free it's comfier to be a slave and not have to think then it would be to be a free man and have to take care of yourself.

This is bullshit, there is zero factual evidence of Holocaust.
It was settled because the Jew and Jew lawyer would keep them in court until the defendant went broke

>Conquered half of Europe
They did invade Belgium/Netherlands but they only invaded Denmark/Norway because the British brought them into the war. Little known fact but the Germans had to beat the French and end the War in the west quickly because it was very apparent that the Soviets were going to invade in the east.

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if the Nazis wanted to exterminate the Joos then why not just use Diesel exhaust?
>cram them into a large room
>pipe in some truck exhaust
>wait 10-15 minutes
cheap, fast, efficient.
>but no, they used insecticide
>for some reason

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Stop being useless Jow Forums and start figuring out ways to make this right. Seriously, if ou let this blatant violation of the 1st amendment slide, what else will we lose?

>nobody spilled the beans
>everyone who spilled the beans got trashed as a hateful goy
Pick 1

for real?

it was airtight because not one person has come out and admitted that it was a hoax. Plenty of people who weren't there (even our German gramma friend) have come out and said that the Holocaust didnt happen, but no one involved in the "alleged" killing ever changed their story, even the guys that got off or just did some jail time and werent "silenced". The official Nazi party line was that these milions of Jews were "resettled to the East" and again, NOT ONE PERSON has come out and said they helped supervise this gigantic population transfer in the middle of a war zone, not one person was resettled. Tell me, where would such a complex and perfect deception be possible outside of retard conspiracy fantasy land? would you accept this theory if it was concerning any other war, any other race?

truck exhaust, why not just fuckin shoot them

>Imagine a murder trial where the judge just said someone is guilty from the start because it was "common knowledge" that the person was guilty.
That’s pretty much what’s happening with James Field’s case right now. The Judge has actually said to reporters that he can’t see Field’s actions as anything other than an intentional car attack.

Jow Forumsacks are so stupid they'd rather talk about the holocaust rather than the 1st amendment. GET YOUR PRIORITIES STRAIGHT.

I forget how it was, but weren't the six million toll in part based on numbers initially proposed by Russian estimates which later decreased dramatically - but the six million figure somehow didn't decrease after the fact.

>Jow Forums BTFO
But user, I'm not an anti-semite. Some of my best lampshades are Jews

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>why not just fuckin shoot them
that's expensive and time consuming
you want to kill as many as possible, then you need to mass kill

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Yes the Germans killed so many Jews in World War that when you look at the almanacs you can actually see that there's more Jews after World War II then before World War II. Every single thing you've ever been taught was a lie you went to school for 12 years and was fed a steady diet of Lies every single fucking day.

The constitution is just a piece of paper user.

which Nazi who admitted to killing Jews or seeing Jews killed later changed their story, not even on their deathbeds? which Jew or goy, American or German or Russian or Brit or Ukranian or Pole who was involved in this massive coverup or hoax, came out and said that these shady Jew characters took him aside and bribed them or threatened them to take part? Do you have an idea about the structure of this hoax, who was involved, how it was done, the logistics, the organization? Even the USSR or other totalitarian regimes couldn't keep secrets like this during their existence, let alone for decades after their downfall . this is a larp and a childish delusion

what is the crime here ?
aren't these claims protected by the 1st amendment ?
if not , why NASA doesn't sue the deniers of the moon landing ?

>GET YOUR PRIORITIES STRAIGHT.
no u

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Well that would make sense. That would have been efficient. The bodies they found don't even match the colors they are supposed to be if they were gassed by Zyklon B. The whole thing is bullshit. The only document anybody ever brings forward is the Jager report. There is literally no proof of the einsaztgruppen besides that report.

BRING CASE TO POLISH COURT
JEWS CANNOT DO THEIR MAGICS IN HERE OR THEY FACE JAIL TIME

>starting with planting evidence in the middle of a huge war
They didn't need to, independent observers weren't let into the Soviet camps for years. I don't think I need to remind you that the KGB (or MGB before '54) spent the vast majority of it's budget on propaganda and cultural warfare. All the allied-captured camps (investigated under the watchful eye of reporters) were found to be just for labour, what a coincidence right?

>especially if the absolute number of whites is probably higher than ever before (although that will probably change)

Hey Rabbi, is that the official narrative coming out of Tel Aviv?

Is this how you people try to lie to the goyim....with fake numbers and made up facts and important sounding buzzwords?

Fuck off shill.

Them and their six million goes back decades they can't go home to Israel until six million Jews died so they lied to God and said that it happened. This is the Hutzpah of the Jewish mind. They don't just double down and lie to goyims they do it to God himself.

they did use Car exhausts. Gas Vans much?
>being this retarded.

almanac is a fake/misleading meme. it was based on 1939 population projections. the 1949 stats adjusted the number down. all of the numerous surveys and demographic analysis showing a massive drop in Jewish population after world war 2 are ignored by the deniers, they just cherry pick this one, because it fits into a bite sized meme for retards. Tell me, if they are right, and everyone else is wrong, why do thtey have to resort to shady underhanded propaganda?

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Shaming of the Germans through propaganda Was designed to
“ Keep the Germans down the Russians out and the Americans in”

>nobody spilled the beans
>everyone who spilled the beans got trashed as a hateful goy
Pick 1

they changed the almanacs once people realized the numbers didn't add up. Also there were only 500k jews in Germany before the war started and yet after the war they all survived. Prove me wrong.

you really are fucking stupid. how many american whites are there today? how many in 1950? im not even denying demographic displacement, im just saying its a relative thing (non white to white) so its hard to sell as an actual genocide. Ask the Rwandans what actual genocide means

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Funny I ask myself the same thing when you make it illegal to ask a fucking question.

The numbers have been revised down to 2 million but nobody ever mentions that.

death throes of an illegitimate and wholly corrupt legal system.

based r*ddit

not one German because they were all hanged. Goering was unapologetic until he was hanged. He knew it was show trial.