Women, I guess you've finally broke me. I've hit the part of my life where all the couples around me are married and having babies.
I instead have worked on my education and career. I now have a senior position with my employer and make more than the average US family on my own. I'm funny. Make good conversation. Skilled. Can repair anything. Can cook all kinds of stuff.
But when I look at the husbands of the couples around me, you know what the difference is? Most of these guys are ripped. Sure, they make 30 to 40 k a year. Sure they have personality disorders I can see from 500 yards. But they're swole, and I'm not.
So I guess you win gals. I'm going to waste an hour or more of every day just to get in shape.
Because the person I am on my own isn't enough. Because I'm normal. Because I'm ugly. Because "you" think I'm ugly.
After all my achievements I feel so worthless. Thanks.
And I'm not some incel. Nor am I alt-right. I'm not a 16 year old with nothing to offer. I'm not an mra or a red piller. I don't buy into pick up artists shit.
I'm 35. I own my own home. I own my own car. I have $100k in the bank. I'm only 20 or 30 lbs over weight. Female friends invite me out all the time. I'm fun to be with. I make everyone laugh. I'm a good time. I'm direct with what I want and how I feel.
But I don't look like Chris Hemsworth or someone similar. And though these men are inferior in every other possible way, they look more like him than I do. So here I am.
I know this all sounds very entitled. I don't mean for it to be. But I'll go to bed alone tonight. There won't be a wife or children to welcome me when I rise tomorrow. Who I am on the inside doesn't deserve those things.
Connor Myers
Its about your personality and the fact that you have stopped looking to improve.
I have a skinny dad bod and i can pull all kinda of women. It’s because I am interesting, passionate about life, my goals and aspirations have very little to do with how I make money, and even the way that I make money makes women interested in me. On top of that Im intelligent enough to figure out a lady mind and get them thinking, make them laugh and feel at ease, and make them feel safe becaue I have clear boundaries.
You on the other hand described what would impress other men.
Take your job less seriously and dive into selfhelp, and run far with it. You married your job.
Jack Harris
I make double that.
Jose Watson
>But when I look at the husbands of the couples around me, you know what the difference is? Most of these guys are ripped Definitely a lie. Maybe your perspective is distorted by some mental tick you have, but you're definitely wrong.
Lucas Walker
Women dont give a single shit about numbers and figures, not at all. They only care with how you make them feel, and if their friends have the hots for you.
Adrian Campbell
tldr rich asshole is upset that he doesn't get women because he's a rich asshole.
Cool story, op. Perhaps you should invest in escorts. You have the money to spare.
Luis Richardson
>Its about your personality and the fact that you have stopped looking to improve. >I have a skinny dad bod and i can pull all kinda of women. It’s because I am interesting, passionate about life, my goals and aspirations have very little to do with how I make money, and even the way that I make money makes women interested in me. On top of that Im intelligent enough to figure out a lady mind and get them thinking, make them laugh and feel at ease, and make them feel safe becaue I have clear boundaries.
You're just regurgitating pick up artist feel good shit. There is no way you could actually know if I'm improving on this or that or what my hobbies are and my passion for life.
Let me tell you a bit about myself. I'm restoring an old Dodge Power Wagon in my garage. I travel all over looking for parts and going to car swap meets. I'm also slowly working on an old Indian motorcycle. And I play drums in a local band. And I'm constantly teaching myself to how to cook news things. And how to fix new things around my home. And I'm learning Mandarin and French. And I take a vacation overseas (I'm in the US) once a year. And I get to travel to Japan and Germany via my job.
Oh and speaking of my job, I'm a mechanical engineer. But I've taught myself the chemical and electrical side of our business and that is part of why I get a senior position in my group.
But my comments are pointless, right? Because you're just repeating shit you heard. And you'll assure me that my examples exist outside of the point you were making? Because you've been brainwashed by vague concepts of modern self improvement and pickup theory?
Logan Torres
Most of them are ex navy and air force. Most of them haven't really done anything with themselves. One's like an instructor at a yoga class.
see pic, this is the kind of shit I have to see in my facebook feed.
Well yeah, people always drop shit like ... i worked on my education and career ... as if these are inherently more noble and sensible pursuits than other choices. All they were are choices and your motivations are actually what is important to others.
I mean, it is kind of a socially polite way of saying I chose to structure my life toward the needs of business. Great job?
Of course these choices are often more sensible and reputable than other choices, especially less sensible ones, but it doesn't mean they are the most sensible by default. I've met an awful lot of quite dull and annoying people who focused on career and business because it was a default choice and they lacked passion, imagination, creativity and so on.
They are usually frustrated that life doesn't reward them for being quite dull and undeveloped as individuals.
Brody Gomez
Nah. Bait thread.
Mason Hill
um where do you live exactly?
because they are all out of shape and homely looking no matter where I go.
Luis Evans
Well no actually, I was simply sharing my life experiences. PUA has always seemed sleezy and not really addressing the problem, so it’s not something that I model life after.
I want to make two points then im out for the night.
In your otiginal post you mentioned nothing about anything interesting, that strikes me as they have 0 importance to you.
If you really are doing all of those things, there is some sort of disconnect. 1: you dont actuallly love any of it and are doing it for the wrong reasons, 2: you have no time to spare on women. Women are huge time suckers.
Lets just say everything you said is 100%true... Then something is greatly amiss and even this idea that what you have made your life into couldnt possibly be wrong is harming your attractiveness.
Maybe its time to go be a fisherman in key west...
>as if these are inherently more noble and sensible pursuits than other choices
sometimes it really is that black and white. One girl I know that is about to have a baby, makes about 75k a year, but she married a guy that makes like 20 or 30 k working at an amazon distro center. And his credit is horrible. She'll probably carry him until the kid is about 5 and she is tired of his shit.
But hey, he's got a six pack, so good for him.
Isaiah Garcia
I'm a skinny fuck with a fiance way out of my league. Maybe your personality is shit? I wouldn't doubt it, given how entitled you seem to be. Yeah being more fit is going to make you more attractive but that can't be blamed entirely. That said, it might increase your confidence so go for it.
Ryder Ward
Winfield, Alabama. I work at an international car manufacture that I won't name here.
But that doesn't impact the marriage trends I'm looking at. One girl lives in Nashville, another in Houston, Atlanta, Mobile, Tampa, Orlando, Memphis. etc.
They have pretty big populations to pick from and they're picking fit/swole dudes with shit jobs.
Bentley Bell
Doesn't sound too bad for her? Sounds like she is having it all. Decent job, family, hot husband? The only concession she had to make was a partner who earns more than her and is career driven which may not have even been a concession for her.
Liam Cooper
Supreme gentleman? had an argument with Soumaya while I was visiting father’s house. It started when she began to boast that my brother Jazz was recently signed by an agent to act in T.V. commercials. She said that by the time he is my age, he will be a successful actor. I talked about how Jazz was already so socially savvy for his age, and how I’ve always envied him for it. She told me he will never have any problems with girls, and will lose his virginity while he’s young. I had to sit there and listen to the bitch tell me that my little brother will grow up enjoying the life I’ve always craved for, but missed out on. It is very unfair how some boys are able to live such pleasurable lives while I never had any taste of it, and now it has been confirmed to me that my little brother will become one of them. He will become a popular kid who gets all the girls. Girls will love him. He will become one of my enemies. That was the day that I decided I would have to kill him on the Day of Retribution. I will not allow the boy to surpass me at everything, to live the life I’ve always wanted.
Sounds totally fine to me. You seem to think women only want resources from their man. He's probably a great guy, takes care of his looks, and they have just enough total income for a family.
John Brooks
It’s not fair that he has the chance to have a pleasurable life while I’ve been denied it. It will be a hard thing to do, because I had really bonded with my little brother in the last year, and he respected and looked up to me. But I would have to do it. If I can’t live a pleasurable life, then neither will he! I will not let him put my legacy to shame. In order to kill Jazz, I would have to kill Soumaya too, but that will be easy. All I would need to do is think about all of the hurtful things she had said to me in that past as I plunge my knife into her neck. But what if father is in the house to stop me? Would I have to kill him too? That would be too much. I remember, when I was a child, I had dreams about my father dying, and I woke up crying to my mother, in which she would comfort me and tell me that it was just a dream. How could my life have resorted to the point where I am the one to kill my own father? I felt sick to my stomach. I concluded that I would have to set the Day of Retribution during a time when my father is out of the country, on one of his business trips. It would be too risky to try to kill him. I might hesitate at the last second.
>He's probably a great guy, takes care of his looks,
Not really. He's already letting the looks slide and restarted his sub to whatever mmorpg. They plan for him to stay home when the baby is born and she work.
The baby isn't even born and he's already put on 20 or 30 pounds and started to ignore her for that game.
Isaiah Campbell
To make me feel more confident, my mother provided me with a better car to drive in Santa Barbara, a BMW 3 series Coupe. I had always wanted this, since I cared a lot about my appearance. I had been asking my parents for a more upper-class car ever since I found out that there was a car hierarchy, and that some students at my college drove better cars than others. Now I was one of the students with a better, high-class car. Having a nicer car than most other students my age did indeed make me feel more confident. Mother should have bought this car for me when I first moved to Santa Barbara. It made me feel better about going out more while I was there. This, coupled with my newly healed leg, gave me one last twinge of hope as the remaining months of 2013 passed.
“Women don’t love me even though I have money and class.” “Fuck those losers that have women, I dont know what they see in them.”
Brandon Edwards
People like a good personality. Something you lack. But you wouldn't know because you hand picked people solely on appearance to judge and fill yoir already biased and chosen opinion.
I've never seen a fit guy with an unfit girl. I mean like super fitness kind of people. Athletes are also often with athletes or someone else who succeeds and is passionately about something.
You work a boring car sales job and think women should just flock to you. Are you interesting in anyway?
Op, tell us more about how you became a supreme gentleman?
Does this end how I think it does?
Ayden Nelson
Get the fuck back here OP, you bitch. Tell us more about how chad works some shitty blue collar job yet rails some sweet beauty every night. Your tears taste so sweet.
I get cars into production, nigger. I've probably had a hand in a car you've driven in the past 5 years.
Austin Bell
>Something you lack.
You don't know this.
The problem with Jow Forums is that it believes in two extremes. On one side you have people that believe in the holy chad and want to be him. On the other you have red pillers and mras that resent and hate chad.
No one actually wants to be critical of women and the men they choose. Well, unless they date minorities. Then oddly enough most of Jow Forums can unite.
is it humble bragging? I'm going to go to bed alone. Then I'm going to get up and make a bowl of oatmeal. Then I'm going to shower. Then I'm going to clean the living room. All alone.
I'll continue to do this as I have for years.
No one will tell me that they appreciate when I help out. There will be no child to watch tv while I pick up.
I will wake up alone. And later in the day I will check facebook and see some six pack donk hold a baby.
Nicholas Perry
>Women, I guess you've finally broke me. Being not fat and in shape is good, it will make it easier. That's only physical shape though, you also need to be mentally in shape. It's sounds like you have the intellectual under control. It doesn't sound like you have someone to talk to about the emotional, so I suggest a therapist. They'll help you understand how to be more empathetic, this will help you to more easily connect with women on a emotional level, to recognize their state. It's like when you see those huge fat repulsive guys with normal pretty women, its a emotional connection. A emotional connection is what I have with my fiancé but he's hot too so still go to the gym and get fit.
Isaac Green
Well then the woman in question has terrible judgement of character.
Tyler Evans
is this how mass shooters are created?
Brayden Jenkins
actually nvm this is more like the incel-elliot rodgers version of idiocracy
Carson Jones
Married, with children here. You talk about you all the time and only about you. To attract a quality woman you must demonstrate an interest in her. The stuff you brag about (sorry, that is how it sounds at this end) will mostly attract golddiggers and such. For the good ones, you need to learn to listen, make them feel at ease about opening up and make the conversation about her thoughts, desires, values etc. If you do attract a quality woman, by being there for her, putting her needs ahead of yours, she will repay likewise and tenfold. I hit a jackpot like that, and I was a fairly self-centered guy beforehand.
Jaxon Reed
Dude if you are 35 with a senior position, making 120k a year and you are only 30 pounds overweight you are a catch already, you don't need to work out to get a wife
Matthew Gomez
I have been commenting throughout. I guess people assume that when women make comments it would be obvious.
Blake Diaz
I don't drive and I don't even live in your country. See this is the terrible personality that makes everyone avoid you.
They didn't mention personality anywhere and haven't demonstrated there's is anything but bitterness. It's a pretty good assumption. I am a woman, we like personality, not boring and bitter guys who think their money makes them better and deserving of a prize as a wife.
You are making the assumption about ne because I'm writing here, let's not project the insecurities of the usual user to every single one.
Cameron Harris
this, the shitstorm itt is excessive even for Jow Forums
the bits about alt right and minorities are the only things that give me pause
Justin Diaz
remember that the donk voluntarily entered slavery. didn't even sell himself, just handed himself over to be used as a cash cow until his wife grows tired. remember that you're still free. learn to love your freedom.
