The game is pc Bullshit, rumours going round of sjw`s and the pc chokehold on metacritic etc. But even though the Last Tiger episode was washed down and blunted, it did pull on heartstrings. Fuck the Nazis, but the Wehrmacht and all those who fought for their country, their family, their people I drink a toast to you. This was a deal breaker for buying BFV. >>>youtube.com
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I miss the BF: BC2, BF3, BF4 Days man... fuckin Swedish cucks
What the hell even happened? Everything they made up until recently has just been realistic war scenarios with a cool variety of equipment available to use. Now it's all about rewriting history and being as lame as humanly possible.
>freezes to death in Stalingrad
"Well at least I fought for my fatherland"
You dont fight for your country or your people in agressive wars, you fight for the money-making swindlers like Krupp, Soros, Abramovich and so on.
The very idea of treating games seriously or even as art is ridiculous.
This Battlefield game is made for idiots - they say it is about forgotten parts of WW2 but they dont include battle for Sevastopol, battle for Brest fortress, the Soviet-Japanese battle of 1945.
Those who made this game included a story of some criminal, a girl singlehandly destroying a wartime scientific laboratory, noname colonial troops making no difference in the war, and the story of a good fascist.
What do those stories tell us? They dont make our understanding of the war deeper, they just show it as meaningless struggle of people with debatable morals on both sides.
Children playing this game will have an impression that WW2 was a war of losers("ordinary people") without any sense and no effect on history.
The authors should be judged and be punished for such games.
I wish there were only be a way to buy only the "Last Tiger" story and just fuck the rest of the game.... Will probably just pirate this one again.
Game is fucking gay. Everyone running around with machine guns and reflex sights in a ww2 game. Retarded.
The motivations for a soldier fighting maybe pure, unlike the officers or generals etc commanding them. Many war crime tribunals etc mow over this, how far individual soldiers are responsible, may vary and is controversial and contested in serious cases.
True, but if it were upto me I`d try to do better, or atleast give a fair depiction of those I am focusing on if I am leaving others out. BUt it isnt and now we are here....
Children playing this game don't give a shit about the campaign retard. They just want to 360 no scope britches or hide in the hills with a sniper. And also not everyone plays video games for the story. The gameplay is another thing to consider when choosing a game to play. I think the bf games have great multiplayer gameplay, totally makes up for their shitty stories. Nobody takes tv or video games serious, not even kids.
True but those retards, if they do not become autistic and end up here or reddit, will just fall for the rainbow washed history and take it as fact, the typical " shallow white girl" syndrome coming to a console player near you.... Its a bit easier for a pc user to get red pilled I guess for access to forums etc...but that isnt backed by facts though...
Dude I've been playing console my whole life, strictly Western games and look where I am!? Humans aren't as black and white like you're making it seem. You can grow up around liberal crap and still not be swayed just because it's in your face.
For reference I'm 26
Being fooled is a bad excuse for immoral or criminal actions.
I dont play computer games, I just suppose what those who play tend to think. But still making a game about WW2, not including the Soviets and when asked why saying that "that is a complex case, Soviet Union changed sides through the war you know" - this is just ideological sabotage.
r-rare
Yes and the problem in war is that you cant have a CSI / forensics unit chasing everything down, it is almost impossible, all you have are eyewitnesses and if lucky documents etc... since you can prosecute individuals for individual crimes, you prosecute collectively, collective guilt/innocence flies in the face of western greeko theory of justice, so we are fcked there... not justifying peoples stupidity, but nothing in the world is perfect and what we are trying to do is make the most of a shitty situation...
There is nothing black and white there, I did mention did I? that I did not reference any studies, what I am saying is that with the lack of any other reference or source one is bound to think on a certain subject whatever they come into contact with. Now yes this may not account for other variable since it changes for each human. This is true for historians today whom may have thought about a civillisation until new evidence etc pops up and the whole consensus is changed.
Battlefield V The Last Tiger Bob
:3
Gute Nacht Verteidiger Europas, genießen Sie Ihre wohlverdiente Ruhe.
What's your race
Why are you even talking about this game? It died for me when they put a fucking Nigger on a ww1 game.
>treating games as accurate history.
The norwegian mission would have our veterans spinning in their grave, good thing they are dead and with their jewish masters in hell.
Video games were the last bastion, remember the last gta? Even that wouldn't be made today, look at red dead r2 pozzed crap
Again there are games that depict the soviets.... my argument is that they be depicted fairly. Leave out the americans/germans/jruskies and just have a bunch solomon/fijians fighting japs. make sure that tiny conflict are depicted fairly.... otherwise its no use having everyone there, since all the russian men were all cowards who needed officers to herd them like mindless cattle to take bullets for muthaland glooryyy and the women had all the nuts and won the war with those 360 noscopes (sarcasm) .... fair depiction is the highest priority and giving those on both sides the rusky and german infantryman who may have fought for a terrible gov is a nice lil externality ...
>Fuck the Nazis
Cuck
>go multiplayer
>"ay we don like any niggerlovers here"
>"hail hitler fuck you kike holocaust didnt happen"
I think well be alright, 2min in any multiplayer these days and its obvious the campaign writers are out of touch with the consumers.
If we are gonna argue on why bother...but the true priority is HOW MUCH MONEY WILL IT MAKE. everything else is extra...
Fuck off, I dont need to gas jews to defend my homeland fking retard. Could have used Jews to fight, or have them build defenses as slave labour, harvest their intellect ...no ... gotta be a fking retard and gas them...GAS them after the war??? nope, no forward thinking...the fking Niggers of antisemites... you jjust lucky the muslims are more retarded...but hey they are fcking over all the white countries even america...and you call me the cuck....wahahhaha
>this is just ideological sabotage.
No, it isn't. It is the result of a company reinterpreting 1939-1945 through modern progressive ideology, Russia doesn't even make sense under that lense as the progressive perception of WW2 is a battle against the progressive forces of the Allies, who fought for same sex marriage, the protection of interracial marriage and to stop the Holocaust.
>Being fooled is a bad excuse for immoral or criminal actions.
The only immoral action the Wehrmacht (or Waffen SS) committed was loosing DESU.
>The only immoral action the Wehrmacht (or Waffen SS) committed was loosing DESU.
this is probably the most factual comment on this thread
>committed was loosing
That's why we all need Russian world.
Why are you shitposting on your vacation?
Fuck no, well if it incorporates capitalism. I dont want to fckn sweat my ass off so a dead beat / cripple can chill fuck the "workers paradise" and fuck "equality" I bust my ass off and I deserve my shit, youre too lazy? fkn starve to death cunt...
why would I celebrate Hannukah in Fiji?
>i paid jews for a shitty gayme
Fuck all of you
>The only immoral action the Wehrmacht (or Waffen SS) committed was loosing DESU.
Being a soldier of an invading army, taking part in an agressive war already is a criminal act. Every german soldier who did not desert should have been considered a criminal, every german cityzen supporting fascist government openly or passively was acting immoraly.
But the difference between Soviets and other Allies is that we did not punish the german nation as it was suggested. We did not try to destroy your culture or break the national spirit like the west did.
Germans were on the evil side in that war, but you are not evil by nature. Modern day neonazi propaganda wants you to believe you are inherently evil so that you accept it, but who needs another big war in Europe? Certanly not the germans.
>Germans were on the evil side
Phew, had me going there user. Good to know this was satire.
XD just read that ....lol
I really had hoped you would respond to my other comment.
>Being a soldier of an invading army, taking part in an agressive war already is a criminal act.
Okay, so every Russian soldier who took part in the wars of aggression against Finland is a war criminal too...
>immoraly
Based on what morality?
>Every german soldier who did not desert should have been considered a criminal, every german cityzen supporting fascist government openly or passively was acting immoraly. Every Russian soldier who did not desert should have been considered a criminal, every german cityzen supporting communist government openly or passively was acting immoraly.
See I can do it too...
>but who needs another big war in Europe? Certanly not the germans.
It can't make it worse to be honest.
you faggots still care about these shitty games?
HOW DARE THEY?
HOW DARE THEY?
HOW DARE THEY CREATE A VIDEO GAME THAT DOESN'T ADHERE TO MY STANDARDS?
I AM LITERALLY SHAKING RIGHT NOW
UHH. FUCKING MATRIARCHY. BOYCOTT NOW!!!!!!!!
If you would be shot for desertion and since there was conscription. the relative case would be durress or coercion, itll be a possibe"justifiable homicide" for the ruskies on an individual civil aspect. However Russia in ww2 does clearly have the morale high ground in the case of german occupation/invasion. However, regarding how shitty and bad they both were, and also how its the victor who gets to decide the morals of the day... and then the collective judgement... shitty situation...
Well of course an american imperialist wants to roleplay german fascism, no doubts about it. Just for you to know, you would be considered a subhuman for having a black grandfather, just like me for being slavic.
War with Finland wasnt an agressive war, it was a war of liberation. And it started only after Finnish russophobic antisoviet government refused to every our suggestion from renting the needed lands to exchanging them for much bigger portion. And when the mannerheim line was breached, when SU could just make another republic, what happened? We took only the lands we discussed exchanging. It was anything but not agressive war.
>Based on what morality?
Christian morality I guess, I dont know any other.
>It can't make it worse to be honest.
People pre-WW1 thought the same, they were wrong
The Commies and the Nazis were Evil if not fkng retards for not realizing the consequences of their values.... the Russians and Germans caught up in the shitshow of radicals, are the true victims and heroes of world war 2. From the gas chamber vics to the battlefield soldaten....
Lol, I mean that seems excessive...using caps...
Didn't the Fijian army save the country from the streetshitters?
They used to make games about things that actually happened.
Then with Bad Company (2) they delved into the realm of fiction, but they kept it realistic.
Now they're harping on about war being for everybody, war unites the community, everyone enjoys the community spirit of war, etc.
It's as if they completely forgot what war is like.
You could see the same in the Game Awards show last night.
"Coming together", "building the community", "enjoying gaming together", "everyone can play and be a part of the community".
AAA-gaming and all the media surrounding it has become communist to the bone.
Again, I would have rather you responded to my other comment.
>War with Finland wasnt an agressive war, it was a war of liberation. And it started only after Finnish russophobic antisoviet government refused to every our suggestion from renting the needed lands to exchanging them for much bigger portion. And when the mannerheim line was breached, when SU could just make another republic, what happened? We took only the lands we discussed exchanging. It was anything but not agressive war.
This is literally delusional, you invaded a country because they didn't want to give you there land.
War with Poland wasnt an agressive war, it was a war of liberation. And it started only after polish germanophobic antinazi government refused to every our suggestion from renting the needed lands to exchanging them for much bigger portion. The German Polish war was EVEN MORE justified as there were at least German currently living in Poland.
>Christian morality
I don't care then, do you want to hear my autism about my faith?
>People pre-WW1 thought the same
No one but the Futurists was unironically pro war.
WHY ARE YOU NAME FAGGING ITS NOT NECESSARY
>Well of course an american imperialist wants to roleplay german fascism....
Bruh, the founders were borderline isolationists
European right and Amercan right wing are VERY VERY different... careful there
I mean we did fight for you and America... we heped the americans in WW2 immensely in the pacific theatre, feels bad for the burgers they got fcked bad by japs using guerilla tactics, but we fought as skirmishers and scouts, then the americans would just fuck anything in their path, just give a map or point em in a direction....shout out to my solomon senpai out there...
THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!
Just kidding. Who fucking cares?
No, I mean a few years ago when they had a military coup after pajeets took over
you guys are pathetic and this is the reason why we got all your fish. suck on that you fucking incel, all your fish belongs to norway
If I was being honest, no one with actual braincells...but youre here and so am i so....go figure...
>Fuck Nazis
>Wehrmacht were cool
???
sweden should die in a fire
Oh yeah that, believe it or not we did it to save the pajeets.... it would have been Rwanda if things went their course.... so have a coup qwell the bloodthirst and continue... we dont have gun rights or freedom of speech so we gotta do everything through the Gov
I'm not here because I fucking care. I'm just in for the shitposting, you retard.
You`re funny dude. points.
>Now they're harping on about war being for everybody, war unites the community, everyone enjoys the community spirit of war, etc.
That is so fucking based, I might actually buy Battlefield V.
>Russian calls an American a "Imperialist"
A classic user, please send my regards to Tsar Putin next time you meet him.
>You have a black grandfather
Sorry frendo, entire family left Danzig in 1920, the only one who didn't was from Bavaria who left in 1918.
While yes, the true victims were the civilians in the crossfire, you need not look deeper than their actions reflected in how they were treated.
Nazis;
-Cheering Baltic/Ukrainian crowds
-Volunteer SS Battalions
-Overall longing for Nazism in most countries
-Food & Prosperity
-Family Values
-Russian ROA volunteers
-or-
Soviets;
-Scared crowds
-Forceful conscription
-General disdain for Communism
-Hunger & Poverty
-Degeneracy
-Mass executions of deserters
>we did not punish the german nation
"When the soviets arrived in Berlin the woman who ran were shot, and the one's who didn't were raped"
put east germany under communism, annexed prussia.
Exaggerated death camps which were only found by soviets, turning the german people into robotic lifeless husks out of shame.
we dindu nuffin.
this rus tells the truth, they even made up this story about the rjukan bombers to be of women. this is so fucking offensive I have no words, leave it to the swedes, the guys in question just died recently, fucking respectless cunts, this is why we hate sweden so much, they were pro nazi then they pull this one. 'KILL
I hate judging collectively. Theres always possibility people do things for other reasons. Not everyone in Nazi germany was a Nazi
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sweden is the cancer of the world
>polish germanophobic antinazi government
Thats true, poles were no innocent sheep in the war and everything would be ok, german-polish war would not be an issue if only germans did not treat slavs as subhumans. Poland was an ugly child of Versailles treaty, it should have never existed.
>as there were at least German currently living in Poland
You know why russians all of a sudden did not live in a country that used to be part of Russian Empire? Because the finns started killing all the russians right after the February revolution. All the russians in Finland were already dead.
Noone except for the communists was pro-war. Because only communists like Liebkneht and Lenin understood that it COULD get worse.
>sweden
>Console fag
Gay and retarded.
I meant soldiers aswell "battlefield soldaten" ...conscripts aswell, even those who were in the ss, the viking yadda yadda etc ... also included the russians...but I wanted to use both extremes of the distribution such as the jews and the german soldiers... Again yes I do believe the plight of the russians outweighs the germans, but I believe the russians too fought out off nationalism and patriotism, family etc perhaps not exactly like the germans, but something like that.... Again fuck the radicals that made it come to this the nazis and commies to be exact...
>but the Wehrmacht and all those who fought for their country, their family, their people I drink a toast to you
you really shouldn't.
whislt I do agree the russians were pices of shit(not all of them) but the ones that were....its war dude... To the vicotr goes the spoils, unless your america or britain and you have actual morals...ish
>send my regards to Tsar Putin next time you meet him.
Should I tell him he spoiled your precious elections too?
>entire family left Danzig in 1920, the only one who didn't was from Bavaria who left in 1918.
I feel sorry for you and your ancestors then.
>dumb antisoviet propaganda
You could at least try not being an example of "stupid brainwashed american" stereotype.
sweden is always trying to steal our fish, we suspect they are cooperating with the orca, which is actually a dolphin. most pepople don't know these things. I'll fucking stick my dick in their god damn blow holes though, my last girl left me for a whale
he was going on about his blow hole, I fucking hate him so much
>you really shouldn't.
Thanks for the opinion
>Poland was an ugly child of Versailles
*is
Lol
>Rigged elections meme
Maybe if this discussion was on Facebook maybe there would be some ground for that, but this is Jow Forums Ivan, try and find a user who isn't memeflagging who believes that.
>Truth is Propaganda
Tovarish user, you are needed at the Ministry Of Truth, someone shit-talked the Red Army!
Fine, but I really thought my first comment was a lot more interesting then my second one.
>Noone except for the communists was pro-war.
I am telling you that the futurists also were pro war, but you are right the communists also wanted a war, but for completely different reasons.
>"When the soviets arrived in Berlin the woman who ran were shot, and the one's who didn't were raped"
Dr. Goebbels, is that you?
>Exaggerated death camps which were only found by soviets
Dont pretend to be stupid, not only soviet soldiers liberated the death camps, and there was no need to exaggerate anything.
>turning the german people into robotic lifeless husks out of shame.
You could say nothing more false than this. If anything the germans were encouraged to take pride in their past and not feel shame in the crimes of a gang in power. The whole policy towards DDR was "its not your fault, you are free to be honest people". People were so "ashamed" that DDR had its torch marches. East Germany did not have the "sterilizing" denazification programme like in West Germany.
why did you trie to appprouch me yesterday? I don'ẗ know, I don'ẗ know what is up. what is happenening. Stop lying to me and I will helpp you
P-proxy
>occupies and turns east and Central Europe to shit.
>spreads Marxism
>for the (((motherland)))
Rich from you Ivan.
Yeah, would be good if we could return the good old PNR.
Oh, sorry, I made a mistake, wanted to say that only the communists were against war. If I remember it right, Liebknekt was put in jail for his anti-war position, but you must know it better.
The communists have always been and are now against imperialistic wars.
>Dr. Goebbels,
he is the most disgusting person I ever knew, there was lit no good in him. at least hitler tried to do good in his fucked up way at least. göbbels just makes me want to puke, pure evil
Because you're not in Fiji. You're some random American teenager hiding behind a VPN, so fuck off and stop larping, fucking kid.
I miss the bf2 and 2142 days
Gaming has become a bastion of SJW partly because of the popularity of gaming has exploded. Why? Because of the pay-to-win phone apps have brought every retard, on the planet, with a cell phone into the "fold." Where do you think AAA companies got the idea for microtransactions? It was Clash of Clans and the like. Once they saw that stupid fucks were willing to spend their mortgage on power ups they jumped in on the idea. That "mindset" bled over to other areas as well... as the gaming population grew more companies got involved and more SJWs were able to rise to the top.
Some normal american fagtard would probably cheer on the nazi scum... I believe in the actual America the one the founding fathers had in mind not the gay shiit they come up with from msm or not paying attention in history class. Its sad when a bloke from Fiji is more americana than fking burger nazi shills...
this
>>spreads Marxism
How is it bad?
>turns Europe into shit
Woah, Europe became so shitty that people still remember socialist times as the good ones. Eastern Europe completely destroyed by greatest war in the history of humanity restores itself on its own without american enslaving credits or turkish/arab immigrants. DDR was so shitty that despite being historically the least developed part it recovers faster and reaches better economic results than western germany(compare GDP at least)
Communism is so ineffective!
>Oh, sorry, I made a mistake, wanted to say that only the communists were against war.
I thought Trotsky literally wanted to spread the revolution globally? I mean sparking a revolution is still a form of war.
>Liebknekt was put in jail for his anti-war position
And?
HOLY FUCKING SHIT. SO RAAAARE
Fiji bro, how do you people look like, are you like the Abo's in Australia?
Post a pic of your forearm or something if you don't mind.
>people still remembers socialist times as good ones
Maybe in Russia, I have yet to meet anyone west of Germany who claims Socialism/Communism was "good".
*East
no thanks my dude ... but ummm maybe just google Fiji and that should show ya... we are a bit fairer or the same as ethiopians... although in some cases we maybe really fair, like spanish kinda fair...