THEY'RE TRYING TO BAN KRATOM AGAIN. I REFUSE TO GET HOOKED ON PRESCRIPTION OPIOIDS FOR MY PAIN. FUCK THE FDA

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good fuck degenerates

Nigga you so out of touch it's pathetic.

Their are already raiding sellers homes

That been said there’s support groups out there with people trying to lean off Kratom

They have become dependent on it

I work in inpatient psych & know of hundreds who have quit opiates and even alcohol with Kratom. They went from train wrecks to normal functioning citizens within a month or two.

What's the matter, addict? Can't you read?

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Why is alcohol legal?
Now that's fucking degenerate. It doesn't help anything. Also what happened to my fucking freedom?

illbe honest, this shit is addictive.

im literally posting from my toilet, taking a shit, and in literally 5 minutes ill be shoveling some dry kratom into my mouth because i cant skip this shit without being sore as fuck.

i dont even have enough money to fully feed myself right now, but ill probably definitely buy some more kratom cuz the shit is about the only way to get through the pain of withdrawal from the shit.

honestly kinda wish id never came upon it. i basically traded out alcohol for something that i cant even go 6 hours without. the aches are just so fucking bad.

i say ban it. i need to taper myself off the shit anyway.

Jow Forums is a drug chanhead

Does it help with erectile dysfunction? Asking for a friend.

How hard would it be to grow kratom indoors?

Red Maylay kratom honestly gives me a straight boner for 2 hours. It's weird.

Its so easy to get off the stuff. I stopped taking it for months before, let me guess, you went for the extract? That was your dumbass fault.

Take about 15-20 imodium pills. Completely relieves opiate w/d. Theres a lot of taper schedules for imodium online.

Got hooked on kratom myself. Shit is super addictive and i got awful shakes from it.

I knew a degenerate who used it. So I won't use it. Weirdo never bathed neither.

:/

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Yeah, better get high on opioids instead.

The Kratom community is the closest I've seen to crackheads online. This shit must be bad if it has you acting like fiends everywhere you go.

powder shit. i dont think its any more than just dried crushed kratom.

Good weed, caffeine, and l-theanine combo be my medication

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Yup. They all tout the “zero side effects” and “non-addictive” qualities of it and if anyone in the online kratom communities dares to say any negative experiences with it then its their fault for having some weird undisgnosed medical condition.

This.

if id have been told there was withdrawal issues, i likely wouldnt have started. I resent ever starting this shit. have basically gone from alcohol addiction, to a worse addiction as i cant skip a day without feeling horrible. The gf can tell when ive skipped.

if anything, at least ive gotten a tiny glimpse into opiate addiction. now i just need to kick the habit and be done with it.

“Been there done that”

Just curious, user. Have you ever tried weed? CBD? Or were you scared off because they are/were illegal?

great larp (8/10) for effort

both you hostile canadian piece of ahit.

weed every day sucked.

cbd overall sucked.
kratom sucks because i cannot skip.
alcohol damaged my liver.

it all sucks and im sick of trading one addiction for another, be it a habitual addiction (weed), or a physical addiction (kratom and alcohol).

fuck this noise.0

Im telling you. Go to cvs/walgreens/walmart and buy the generic 2mg loperamide tablets and do a taper. Thats how i finally kicked kratom after about 6 months last year.

Im in recovery for heroin addiction and got into kratom after being 3 years clean and wound up doing 30 gram burns, sometimes twice a day (yes i realize this is outrageous, but i was addicted and common sense/ self control took the backseat). Loperamide got me through w/d with very little pain. Just do some research.

Fucking druggies

one day at a time bro.

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fuck off you retard

Why not ween off dude?
Is it a self control thing like the pain pill heads?
Seems like decreasing your dose by 10-15% every 4-5days would absolutely do the trick.
What am I missing?

Morons. I use it for chronic pain with minimal side effects. Dumbasses don't know the struggle.

You're so black no one pays attention.

No one cares. Kratom is dangerous. A lot of people take it and do get side effects. Not to mention the traces of heavy metals being found in vendors batches. Fuck, i got an email from a vendor i used to use that were doing a voluntary recall because they found ecoli in their kratom.

kratom is the duct tape that holds some people together. if user is self medicating, it is harder because he has other issues that still need to be treated. it's a vicious cycle.

>I only smoke weed purely out of habit
LMAO fuck off kike

I know kratom is beneficial to some and I've tried it myself. I had fun with the different strains like maeng da and white something. I've dealt with extreme anxiety forever, and some back/shoulder pain from a crash a couple of years ago. While kratom was nice it was also very turbulent and put me in very weird mental states. I took too much once and got violently I'll and after that I never did it again. It was rare I went out to get it since herb is easier to get.

All those other drugs are just too complicated. Weed and caffeine for me.

>comfy phone posting since I don't want to get my machine fired up sorry for auto-correct niggers

What vendor?

i dont like my job.

thats about all i can think of. at least with kratom, i can go in with a smile slapped onto my face.

youre right, i do have an underlying issue.will likely have to start weening myself off. am 6months into the ha it. would like to just be done by the end of the week.
how long did it take? is it affordable? am actually about in the same boat. A 250g bag lasts about a week, so i suspect we’re in the exact same state.

first thing i do of the day is shit, and swallow a spoonful of kratom.

Gaia ethnobotanical. Pretty popular vendor, too.

Good. Check out the withdrawals on it. It's just more imported Chinese shit to get us hooked on drugs to make a buck and revenge for the opium wars.

Bought some kratom once. Me and my cousin took many hits of it. Despite going well over the recommended dose on the last occasion, we couldn't feel anything. Felt incredibly mild. Don't know if I got ripped off or something. Seems harmless to me, but I haven't researched it properly.

Meme flag is kind of correct, they withdrawals are horrible. I know plenty of idiots that got hooked on it thinking it was "safe" and they have to wean themselves off the shit.

Yes and then they get addicted to that shit, it's about the addiction you idiot. Just give them benzo's then, that will work, fucking idiot.

Theres 3 day tapers, and slower tapers. I started with 20 pills twice daily then after 3 or 4 days cut to 20 pills once daily (the worst cut) then i drop 2 pills over the weekend (one on friday, then one on saturday. Its mildly uncomfortable for a day or two but very managable and then the rest of the week until friday again youll feel 100%.

I found tapering kratom to be very difficult because im an addict and i know if i just take a little bit more than my taper dose ill get high, even if its “just once, then ill continue my taper, for real this time”. Never worked for me, needed to quit the shit completely.

Yeah, it's like heroin, but you won't be able to cum, or shit. It's the price you pay for making a deal with the devil. Just learn to eat pussy, you'll be fine.

I don’t doubt the withdrawals exist but they’re NOWHERE near H or full agonist narcotics.

My experience is like weening off of a 4 cup a day coffee habit: cold turkey really is not fun, but a gradual taper is fucking harmless. It really just comes down to willpower. Withdrawals are what you make them — it’s a fact

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This. I have ulcerative colitis, and at that point I tried a lot of stuff. Tried kratom from different suppliers, different types, different galenic forms, and different doses, but I never got any of the marketed effects.
If it's a "it only works if you believe in it" thing, it's not actually working.

Ok Eura....

You’re retarded. Find me one person selling Kratom from their home like it’s fucking weed or crack. It’s not even illegal except for in Tennessee. And even then I doubt they’re doing too many raids. Fake and gay.

Fuck you, you fucking sperged out edge lord. You don’t know shit about shit.
Go fuck your mother

you fucking shit stain degenerates need to stop doing drugs or get the fuck out of my country.

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Well it's a tree so probably kinda hard

This

Anyone who needs to be drugged up 24/7 just to deal with pain should be put out of their misery, period.
Whatever caused anyone to become that way needs to be purged from the gene pool, whether it's some genetic condition or an injury caused by bad behavior.

The idea of medical weed/kratom wouldn't even be on the table if we didn't keep fucked up crippled people alive.
Keeping these people alive just to sell them drugs is one of the most evil exploitative acts ever committed. Not only should these people with pain be put down, but the people who sell them drugs and profit from their misery should be put down.

The withdrawals are different for people, depends on age, health, and how many times you've quit before (check out kindling effect). Dude, you've gotten lucky, some people can't kick it and yeah, straight heroin or oxy can be horrible, but that shit is legit right behind it or on the same level since idiots think it's safe and take a shit ton of it. Just stay away, if you have anxiety, hit the gym in the morning before you start your day, that's what I do, helps tremendously that and I rarely drink caffeine and quit smoking, get your shit together, use your free time to better yourself. You're better than a drug, like to yourself if you have to when you start, but do it and live your life like it and you'll start to believe in yourself. Don't let a chink drug finances by kikes run your life, you're literally choosing to be nigger tier. I'm not saying it's easy, it's hard, but you can do it.

I was taking about 7g 2x daily for 4 months. Cut that down to 3g 2x daily for 3 days and then stopped completely. Had mild wd symptoms such as restless legs at bedtime, difficulty sleeping, but most of all obsessing mentally. Definitely an addictive substance even at lower doses. That said, I get debilitating back spasms and pinched nerves and kratom helps immensely with the pain. I try not to take it for more than 2-3 days in a row to not get addicted again.

Fuck off nigger druggie.

The shit isn’t even expensive. Why are you such a failure. I can get 250grams sent to my house for $28 and that includes the price of shipping. I too traded alcoholism for Kratom. And I’m fucking glad I did. I’m not constantly angry. I’m not incoherently drunk every night. I feel better going into work in the morning. I have a wife and 2 kids and go to a shitty 55hr/wk manual labor job and I can actually function. Kratom is miles better than benzos, alcohol, anti depressants, any of it. It’s literally just a freaking leaf. Quit being a fag, take your Kratom, and get your life together so you aren’t digging into the couch and asking people for change making us look like a bunch of niggers.

>pain relief
>degenerate

i hope you get cancer

Weirdo neck-beards who don’t shower troll on Chan all the time and yet here you are...

I’ll still check them digits though.

Yeah the online community is annoying. People are just afraid of the government overstepping their place and creating another “weed makes the niggas do bad things!”

I have taken high amounts daily for years and I just took a 5 day break with very little withdrawal. Idk maybe it's different for other people.

If kratom can help me quit alcohol, I think I should give it another try, and maybe be more dedicated this time. I'm sick of quitting and going back to it a few months later like a fucking pussy.

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Better never eat lettuce again...they did the right thing and recalled it. How is that bad?

Kratom is great it should be out right to chose to use it. (((They))) want it banned because it is a threat to pharma and helps get people out of addiction to harmful drugs like heroin. They are using their gripe on the media to slander and demonize Kratom.

What in the fuck is this blatant shill thread? Go advertise your bullshit somewhere else cocksuckers.

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It got me off of vicodin and when I get off I never have withdrawals. These are all fear mongers who know nothing and scream propaganda big pharma screams out.

I'm a fireman, got fucked up at work pretty good, took kratom for about 3 months 24/7 after turning down oxys from the Dr, I'm back on the job now only a couple months past that and just got our departments highest award for a save, should I have been put down?

If only you knew how bad things really are for me.

>threat to pharma

Fucking so stupid. How about not do any fucking drugs to begin with??? Eat healthy and live healthy, that's how you fucking win.

>habitual addiction

an oxymoron

Kratom is for pathetic stoners
it lowers testosterone and stifles your motivation
life is meant to be painful not knumb

Based

Are you fucking kidding me?
FDA won't do shit after they got their ass handed to them by veterans last time

Like weed people. Enthusiasts about a drug are among the dregs of society, but the silent users are usually alright. Kratom works but should not be abused, it's an opioid agonist with many of the same effects, including nasty constipation if you overuse.

they won't

Do you even know what agonist means you dumb nigger?

>Thats how i finally kicked kratom
just stop eating that shit and drink a lot of coffee

geez it's not heroin you nimpty

>Enthusiasts about a drug are among the dregs of society,
agreed, gas the sugar junkies

What's degenerate about kratom? Doesn't even get you "high " like most prescription drugs and is less addictive plus it comes from God and not Dr. sholom Shekelstein

>Find me one person selling Kratom from their home
I know some one

Kratom works on the same receptors that heroin cocain morphine etc work on. Agonist means "works on" or "affects", in layman's terms. Maybe you were thinking I meant antagonist, in which case I can understand your line of thought.

My nigger

You forgot to add receptor senpai

Can't argue with that my man. Excess sugar kills so might not need the gas
My bad, user

> every thing I hate lowers testosterone

Fuck off faggot. You Poltards repeat this bullshit so much Its actually starting to get annoying

I bet you've never done any drug in your life

>poltards
k leftypol
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