It really bothers me when I know a girl I like has dated or kissed (or fucked) someone before...

It really bothers me when I know a girl I like has dated or kissed (or fucked) someone before. But it seems to not bother anyone else. I always see in movies some kid is dawning after a girl dating a guy and then he’s all excited when they break up, but to me it feels like this person is used goods. I completely lose interest once I find out. I know germs only linger for so long and it would be like they never touched but it’s still weird. And it seems like everyone else is fine with dating someone who has a past. The funny thing is it didn’t bother me when I was a kid. I remember I had a “girlfriend” when I was like 12 who had just been in a relationship, but I was psyched. Can someone explain?

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Well she’s used goods while she’s seeing someone by once she’s free of that relationship she becomes new goods

Why is that the case? I think everytime I would hold hands, kiss, or put my dick inside her I would just think of all the other times she’s had it done by another guy. It would completely take me out of it.

all women are whores. even if they say they have never done something with anyone, they fucking have and everyone knows it. You are only fucking yourself over waiting for a 'pure' '''virgin''' girl to come around. pro-tip: they are all VERY used goods. my only advice is to get used to it.

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You're probably insecure.

This. The only people who are virgins after high school are ugly or super religious.

That may be the case, not sure why thats the reason though

It would help if you told us some of your own history.

This. people are also asexual or extremely socially awkward

I don’t really have one, I’ve dated like two girls in school and they were not serious relationships at all. I used to have a lot of girls like me but now I’m out of school and have depression and do not like the way I look.

Also checked

You probably just need to investigate why you think like that and what's the values those thoghts come from.

Really, nothing wrong with dating someone with an ex. There are way bigger problems and variables to take consideration instead.

I think I can safely assume that you were born and raised in a Western culture. While humans do have some natural competitive instinct, you were shaped from the day you were born by a ruthless corporate culture, doubly so if you are American. It's been drilled into your head that you must COMPETE COMPETE COMPETE and always be the best you can be, or you will die. This creates a lot of anxiety and neurotic styles of thinking. See how many people around you are obsessed with perfect grades, or the perfect body, or flawless work performance. You're afraid that if you aren't an experienced sex god or the perfect boyfriend, she'll just wander off, that's just how things are. It doesn't help that as a culture, we are constantly surrounded by sex and bombarded with the message that young, hot teenage porno fucking one of the most important parts of life, eapecially as a male.

Healthy relationships are not a job interview or a cut throat office environment. A good partner will understand your inexperience and help you grow. Someone who isn't willing to do that probably isn't someone you should be with.

How old are you, OP? More importantly how old are the people you generally seek relationships with?

I'm wrapping up HS in 9 days, and I've always been the way you are about girls. But in HS that was achievable. It's not too much to ask for a girl who hasn't lost her virginity. If you're like 25+, haha. See

Please god all I want is to fuck an ass like that please jesus.

Well there you go then. You don't have much self esteem and you're in the middle of a confusing transition to young adulthood, plus the hyper competitive mindset that surrounds you. You should focus on feeling better and working on a good self image.

Yeah I’m American and very anxious and am in pain when I make the tiniest mistake and think about it for hours. I’ve also thought about killing myself because I haven’t had the perfect teenage experience with girls and popularity. And I don’t do anything to change my life or experience anything, I just sit in my room depressed because I’m too anxious to do anything because of the way I look. I’m not even bad looking, I’m actually pretty good looking I just have body dysmorphia disorder and anxiety and I’ve embarrassed myself in the past so I’m afraid to take risks and as far as I know there is no cure, and I don’t want to take medication. Seeing your post is a little eye opening, maybe I have really just been brainwashed and that’s the reason it’s so important to me.

I just turned 19.

I almost killed myself at the same age for very similar reasons, right down to the dysmorphia. I was diagnosed in my twenties, but I've had symptoms since I was about fourteen. I won't have much more time to post but I really hope you'll consider therapy. It can be hard work but it's worth it. My life is completely different now. I never would have met the love of my life or my best friend if I had killed myself then.

Feeling Good About The Way You Look (Wilhelm) is a fantastic workbook also, it's basically cognitive behavioral therapy on paper.

Thanks user. There’s one part of me that’s relieved I’m not alone, but another part that doesn’t want to think I’m not unique, and separate from other people. It takes away my power in a way.

Thank you, that sounds like just what I need. Don’t mean to bother you but do you have a PDF?

You're insecure, you subconsciously feel you are flawed and a partner having something to compare you against makes you feel inadequate, you lack the self-awareness and maturity of character to understand or accept that.
t~ psych student

>not ugly
>or super religious
good grief

Hm. I suppose it's not unrealistic to hope to find a virgin, though it will be difficult. Are you in college?

No I’m not
I technically haven’t even graduated yet please don’t bully

You should focus on other things that make up your identity/self, not pain and sadness. Otherwise, you'll be afraid to feel better, because that becomes a loss of identity for you. What else do you like to do? Is there something new that you've been wanting to try, but haven't?

I only have a physical copy of the book, but a PDF might be out there somewhere. In the mean time, I think that looking into communities and resources for people with Body Dysmorphic Disorder and Generalized Anxiety, or Social Anxiety, will help you feel less alone and give you healthy ideas to manage your pain. Even just lurking in Psychforums is good.

Stop judging girls based on your own lack of sexual experience. it's obviously making you miserable and only cementing your virginity or even being able to hold hands and kiss someone on a date.

Plus as someone who's been with both virgin girls and sluts, and girls in between who were neither I can tell you that being with a virgin is actually not very fun at all. Everything is awkward and held back and when the relationship ends then you end up feeling like a complete piece of shit even if she broke up with you.

sluts are sluts, so ideally you want a girl with some sexual experience. Two partners is like the habitable zone. If she's only had sex with one guy then she's still thinking about him whether she knows it or not.

Assuming you’re not asking rhetorically, I want to try singing and dancing. I don’t know where I would get started doing that though

Lol they never liked you

The only girls, I mean.

There are two things you never look at, user, and these are the kitchen of a restaurant and the past of a pussy. Otherwise, you can't eat neither.

...I never thought of this that way... But doesn't the vagina get stretched to hell and back that way?

Don't ever go back to Jow Forums. Getting your knowledge about female anatomy from a bunch of raging incels is not healthy.

Im not ugly neither religious. My social skills are very good. My self esteem is zero. Socred a gf but she was damaged goods. Intimacy problems and such. Now Im a single virgin guy who experienced genuin affection and misses that feeling. Id rather never had a gf at all.

But I searched around the net, and places like vogue and vice and all that say the same. And that anything lower than 7.5" might as well not even exist.

No they don't. You're fucking delusional. Pussy is pussy. Unless something extreme happens a girl's pussy will stay the way it is. Sex or not.

That's a myth my man. Vaginas are pretty elastic, as would be expected of a sex organ babies get pushed out of. Childbirth is about the only thing that can really stretch it out, and it can even more or less snap back from that.

So is 6"x6" good enough or should I an hero?
Well, how do you satisfy a woman post childbirth then?

You're just looking for excuses to give up aren't you?

No, I'm just insecure.

Practice having sex with a prostitute a few times to get rid of that.

I'm not going to lose my virginity with a hooker user. I'll just keep getting Jow Forums and reading books on sexual techniques and pleasure.

>all women are whores.

But that’s not true. A woman who keeps sexual contact within a relationship is not a whore. She values herself and her boyfriend.

A whore is a woman who has casual sex

What's the point when you reject all advice?

She is the whore of her boyfriend. He gives her things in exchange for sex.

I'm not rejecting user, I just wanna know if the Jow Forums and vice/vogue/woman-blogs stuff are true.

Not true. There is an emotional connection. They have feelings for each other. They trust each other. They want to make each other happy. They care about the wellbeing of each other. THATS what matters.

Whores don’t care about any of that shit. Whores just want a dick in their mouth to suck on. Nothing more.

>is the stuff that basement-dwelling virgins of Jow Forums say about women and relationships true
Gee. I dunno.

One day you might get your first gf. You will be in for a surprise about how relationships work.

I have a girlfriend

Well no, but vice and all those "free modern woman" blogs say the same. It worries me about their mindset. I'm not going around demanding Christina Hendrick's tits, but I'm worried they all want a Mandigo cock...

OP.

Don’t stress over girls who’ve had past boyfriends.

Just don’t date women who used to be sluts.

yeah they're all fat fucks and complete virgins, which is not a thing to be bothered

That garbage is designed to induce sexual insecurity in women, too. Think about it: all those sex quizzes and guides are meant to make the reader think "wait, I'm not getting Eurasian gangbangs every weekend like this article says... But I've never heard of doing this to someone... Why do people need guides for first date sex? I've never wanted that. **Is something wrong with me?**"
Followed by page after page of advertisements promising to make you prettier, thinner, and sexier. It's not a coincidence.

The world of "Are YOU getting enough ass? (the answer is always no)" was once weaponized against men, and in recent years it's become universal. There are some men that follow through and try to fuck everything thst moves, there are some men that would feel that way even in a world without Maxim, but there are many more men that only feel anxiety and pressure to be something they aren't. It's the same with women, just the packaging is newer.

>Women are disgusting xD
Have you ever been to a men's public bathroom? Grown men peeing all over the floor.

I guess you're right user, but... I don't know. Sometimes the self-hatred hits me and I just... I black out, in a way. I know I don't have it as bad as the midget or the kid with a third arm, but... it hurts being average, in whatever department. I'm tall and handsome enough, I can fix my body, I can grow my career, but... I can never change my dick. And it makes me feel like half a man. A hollow... void...

you must work on your confidence, you are insecure.
Believe me, this has only to do with insecuriety and not being confident.

>I would just think of all the other times she’s had it done by another guy
Don't worry, she'd be doing the same.
And by "the same" I mean thinking about *her* other times, not yours.

I understand your problem, I always feel the same.

This. If people can't handle a girl who's had a boyfriend, they'll never be able to handle a real women.

>fantastytown
>population:you

>I think I can safely assume that you were born and raised in a Western culture
Of course he is.
Girls aren't free to date that much outside of western culture.
Fucking hate these anti-west shills.

It's alright to feel that way. Imagine using something someone else had already stuck their dick into. That shit ain't gonna be clean. The argument in here are insecure faggots who are in denial of "used goods." Please, don't trust these idiots who eat their food from the floor. It's fucking disgusting.

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I'm like you OP

when I got my second girlfriend, she was a virgin, it all went away.
It was the best relationship I ever had.

We broke up because I had to move abroad for work, and when I came back she had been around.

It still hurts but I can't go back to that slut.
also she doesnt love me anymore since she found the cock carousel.

>also she doesnt love me anymore since she found the cock carousel.
See, that's the problem with virgins too. You can't wife someone who hasn't been with anyone else, because she'll always have that on the back of her mind, making it easier for her to cheat.

You have obviously never seen both sides. The women's side is always far, far nastier.

>See, that's the problem with virgins too. You can't wife someone who hasn't been with anyone else, because she'll always have that on the back of her mind, making it easier for her to cheat.

No, that's the problem with you delusional liberals

you can't turn a ho into a housewife.

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>delusional cucked liberals

fixed.

Is the tripfag banned again?

YES. Yes i can. By adding 'usewife' to 'ho'.
fixed.

I'm not a liberal, at all, but I wouldn't be able to trust a virgin. The same way I wouldn't be able to trust myself if I married the first gal I liked. You need 3-5 partners to just get it out of your system, otherwise the doubts are gonna fuck you up.

I trust virgins more than a slut looking to settle down for a wallet.

they call it settling down for a reason.

The difference is that you are a virgin who has zero experience in dating girls. You don't know how it works.

You have to see women as they are, just people. You can't see them the way you would see a used product and wonder if it works or not or how long it will last.

In my case, if I were worried over a thing like that it would be because in my mind it's very likely she will compare me to other guys she banged and second, if she has a lit of guys then chances are she's just going to add me and then dump me if I'm not good enough.

Really, if you're that insecure about it all just don't take the relationship too seriously that way you won't feel too hurt if she does end up dumping you right away. Think you're getting some experience dating and that's it.

>In my case, if I were worried over a thing like that it would be because in my mind it's very likely she will compare me to other guys she banged and second, if she has a lit of guys then chances are she's just going to add me and then dump me if I'm not good enough.
Not OP, but that's my fear. How do you combat this? I guess if you have a big dick you can take solace in that, but what about the rest of us with average cocks?

Well in the end the problem stems from being insecure about your worth in general. Anyone that has a good self esteem and knows this won't worry too much about not being good in bed because they know they're good in other areas so the damage control is there. It's really the guys that have self esteem issues that are really going to get a full blast from the negative outlook the girl has on you.

My advice, if you're not ready to face something like that then work on yourself in other places. Get in shape, get an education, get a job, and in time you'll feel better about yourself regardless of how you perform in a sexual encounter. Know your worth.

I am getting my education. I've been into sports since a kid. I'm tall (6'1") and handsome enough. It's just that, I can change my body, my face, my education, but I can never change my dick, and... it fucks with me. It makes me feel like half a man. How am I going to compete with Chad Thundercock?

Well the importance a woman places on sexual performance and dik size will depend on the woman in question but usually even an average sized dik will suffice in most situations. The only women that will have a preference for 6 inch thick diks are size queens in my opinion.

Don't feel bad if you can't perform well in bed, as you age sex usually becomes less important as it is since human biology changes things eventually. Unless you're only worried about it for the moment because you're young then just practice and read up on techniques people use to make it work better.

>The only women that will have a preference for 6 inch thick diks are size queens in my opinion.
I am around 5.5" thick at the middle and 6" thick at the base. It's just not very long. ~6" bonepressed.
>Unless you're only worried about it for the moment because you're young then just practice and read up on techniques people use to make it work better.
Well, I am a khv, so... I'm reading those sex manuals. I've got about 30 or so of them, downloaded.

Most people nowadays are just cuckolds. It's perfectly normal to be less atrracted to used goods but unfortunately we love in a degenerate culture where they're all used goods.

Go back to Jow Forums you closeted homosexual underaged bitter virgin.

When you use a doorknob do you also imagine every single person who has touched it? Because I'll bet you there's been a lot of people who've touched it after masturbating and haven't even washed their hands. Or what about every time you sit on a public toilet? Do you refuse to wear used clothing because other people's skins cells could be on it? Do you refuse to drink water because in the past it's all been peed out of some living being before? There's probably a couple bits of water in what you drink that could have been dinosaur pee!

I think a human replaces all its cells every 7 years so you just have to make sure the woman you date hasn't come into any contact with anyone for 7 years.

The I don't understand your problem with your size. A lot of guys only make it 5 in in terms of thickness and that's more important than length anyway to a lot of women. Anything longer than 6-6.5 is only going to hurt a woman's cervix if you too deep.

>mfw a thick ass Asian cutie will never grind those hips on you with your cock 7 inches deep in her

Why live?

It looks too small to me. And /soc/ has tons of cocks which look mugh fatter. I'm just insecure and afraid. I'll cum no matter what, but if she doesn't get off, then I've failed. And that's not even considering the social stigma.

Then your problem comes from comparing your package with random people on the internet, obviously someone out there will be bigger than you but do you think about how many out there are smaller? At 5.5 your above average, and 6 in length is respectable so don't beat your self over it. Most women out there will have a good time with that size, don't worry.

The average vagina is 4.5 inches deep. It doesn't take much to hit the cervix. There really aren't that many "size queens" out there but I feel like you almost have to be a size queen to do porn... which is 95 percent of what most men see and think sex is like. Real sex isn't like porn. Most of the stimulating is done by your pelvic bone hitting their clit anyways. I had a guy I dated who had a big dick and we couldn't even have sex. When it did fit it felt like I was giving birth to a fist full of razor blades. And he still wanted to be bigger. The guy I'm dating now is the perfect size but still wishes he was bigger. It's like guys won't be satisfied until the only thing they can fuck are horses. I don't get it.

Maybe OP just doesnt want roasties user. It's instinctive for a reason, men want to be the first and only because it implies exclusivity aka less chance of divorce.

OP learn to groom, work out, get a good job, fun and social hobbies and know how to cook
This will broaden your chances of attracting a (high quality) partner and make you a happier and self satisfied person in general

Typical roastie reply.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahaha! If you fuck her good then she won't crave new dick. If you marry someone who has 5 frames of reference she'll compare you day and night.

Completely natural, don't let women or white knights convince you otherwise.

No, it's not normal and both of you should talk to people because yall need help.

I guess. I just... I want to be good at it. To give pleasure, so that I can receive.
>I don't get it.
One reason is ego. The other is fear. Fear of rejection, fear of the social stigma, fear of not being good enough.

Guys are very sensitive to feedback during sex and if they feel you're not feeling it then it shatters their pride in a million pieces. The size thing is really more or less a bigger problem now because of media poisoning.

Shhh it's easier for people to hide behind the facsade of muh morals than admit they are insecure.

>Everyone should be a godless hedonist like me!

Join us, Isaiah.

Porn addicted men are so broken. They expect so much out of sex and want girls to hold uncomfortable poses and do uncomfortable sex positions meant for a camera because that's literally all they know. They want fast and rough sex and want you to fake it like a porn star. Then women fake an orgasm just to make it stop. And it's so incredibly easy for woman to fake an orgasm because most of what people see in porn are fake orgasms. Then women are left thinking they're broken because they don't enjoy what the porn girls seem to enjoy. It's fucking sad.

I'm not against porn, I watch it too. But a lot of people's minds have been warped by it.

It's's not wrong. But a virgin woman is probably going to expect that you're a virgin too.

Then I don't see a problem. There's probably a ton of virgin women looking for virgin men. The majority will probably be religious though.

Not any better than the way women talk like a man is useless if he doesn't meet what the current fad standards are for cock size, stamina, and how many orgasms he should be able to give you.

Jokes on you I'm actually an Jow Forums incel. I bet you feel like an idiot now . You really think volcels exist? Fuck off roastie

There's porn sex (exhibitionist gymnastics by athletic professionals) and then there's real sex (intimate human interaction in all it's awkward glory). The two meet in the middle in the murky, poorly lit world of amateur porn, and that's where I encourage people to go who are porn addicted and can't figure out why they can't get a decent partner, as a way to wean them off the unhealthy fantasy.

Yeah not all women are like that and that's a toxic as hell mentality. If you meet a woman like that run the opposite direction. I've run into people with warped views on sex of both genders. There's guys who need you to meet their standard of boob size, waistline size, as size, feet size, etc. Theres women who need their guys to be over 6ft tall. They're all terrible shallow human beings.