ITT we discuss nihilism and how to live a fulfilling life being a nihilist. In addition we can discuss alternatives to nihilism that are compatible with an atheisthic worldview(No muh God plz)
InB4 >Nihilists are all depressed faggots with no meaning Not true, I get fulfilment and meaning out of life being a nihilist. I can derive all my morals from this worldview quite well and abide by them even if they aren't objective. I still have immense hope for the future and for humanity, and I can get all that without believe in something supernatural. It's entirely possible to do this.
Im actually a religious nihilist, I believe that nothing matters besides going to heaven & voting for Christian politicians who flood my country with non whites. Oh & attacking athiests because it's all their fault that I only cared about heaven for the last 100 years while jews raped my country.
I'm very happy being a religious nihilist.
James Rodriguez
>I get fulfilment and meaning out of life being a nihilist >fulfillment and meaning >nihilist doubt.mp4
Ayden Russell
Itt: retards who don't understand nihilism nor philosophy Regect the nihilism pill, read classic philosophy, and construct true meaning in your life
I don't know if I would be classified as a nihilist, but as time goes on I care about less and less. Whereas I once cared about my country and the state of the world, I can no longer give a shit about societies that are actively trying to destroy themselves. I pretty much only want to take care of my family, better myself, and live peacefully.
Asher Anderson
People always have this fear of the big "nothing" when they die and therefor turn to silly old myths, promising them eternal bullshit. I for myself find nothing to fear from this ending. You have to understand that when you cease to exist, you won´t float around in darkness, thinking. "Oh no, if only there would be something". No, you are not there anymore. You didn´t care all the millions of years you weren´t born, so why being worried about what comes after you go again?
Ethan Morgan
All this work and sacrifice and patience and nothing to show for it but loneliness despite being well-regarded.
What matters? I've been Nietzsche-pilled for a while and I'm all about creating my own meaning in my life, but I just feel so dejected.
Christian Roberts
What is it all for? I'm well-liked, pursue my interests, yet feel lonelier than ever. Submission to an expansive and pantheist God is key to survival in my opinion, but I'm just so tired of society. I'm not perfect, but I feel like people like me shouldn't be so fucking lonely.
Sebastian Brown
i honestly cant see what is there to talk about , nihilism (basically the lack of inherent intrinsic value to life or the universe) is literally the default basic common sense position , nothing is more simple and straightforward . how one could justify any alternative to nihilism is a thing worth discussing .
> nihilism > caring about muh whiteness > caring about spooks like muh civilizashiun and pedophilia
a nihilist doesn't fucking care. If whites get replaced and removed then they deserve to get replaced and removed. Also pedophilia is a fucking morlistic faggotry if the strong and powerful rule and if they are efficient in their rule then they can be pedophiles
Isaiah Torres
>I get fulfilment and meaning out of life being a nihilist
That life is meaningless isn't a commonsense position. Life can be full of meaning even if there is no point -- I have no patience for Bukowski-inspired nihilists. They're basically effeminate liberals that cannot even try to insert meaning into this Life.
To be frustrated with your effort is one thing. To not even try is pathetic.
How was your shabbes?
Jeremiah Lewis
A living nihilist is an idealist in denial.
Jacob Jenkins
Say more?
Your post is framed as a jab against me, but I don't really disagree. I'm definitely a disappointed idealist and optimist who, in grappling with the world-as-it-is, is deeply frustrated that they could not carve out a bit of happiness and fulfillment for themselves.
Eli Gonzalez
>and how to live a fulfilling life being a nihilist. Self contridiction - the thread
>Also pedophilia is a fucking morlistic faggotry if the strong and powerful rule and if they are efficient in their rule then they can be pedophiles Eating your own shit
>I is powerful!
Real pedos The real meaning of the term) are just sick people abusing others as they abuse themselves.
nihilism is the observation that there is no inherent value , you can be a nihilist and claim the meaning of life is collecting as many toothpicks as you possibly can , it's just that you recognize that you decided on that meaning .
personally i think even wanting life to have meaning is stupid , it's the same as wanting a toothpick to have a meaning
Bentley James
nihilists can't live fulfilling lives. Best thing you can do is commit suicide if you're a nihilist. Second best is start doing heroin.
Brandon Green
>nihilism (basically the lack of inherent intrinsic value to life or the universe) is literally the default basic common sense position , nothing is more simple and straightforward . >how one could justify any alternative to nihilism is a thing worth discussing . A fucking Israeli
>instrinsic value of nothing >common sense for nothing >justify nothing >I honestly Honest about nothing >Universe = cosmos of nothing
I just wanted to throw it out there, not directly aimed at you. What I mean is that idealism is the most common path to nihilism. People who aren't idealistic in the first place won't end up declaring everything meaningless other than superficially as an offhand statement. Thus the nihilist is almost always a person who craves meaning but has found none. A bitter idealist.
What do you mean by natural life?
Joshua Bell
>I get fulfilment and meaning out of life being a nihilist.
That's the real trick though isn't it? They will not let you live in peace. It's not in their playbook. Do you think they will get to "x" and then be like, well that's good enough we reached our goal! Not likely.
Austin Nelson
Values are not found in nature.
Ryder Nguyen
>nothing but
Nolan Harris
Do you not see you as a part of nature, or do you not think yourself as capable of seeing value in existence?
Easton Miller
Steps to become a satisfied nihilist >Step 1 Stop Being nihilist >Step 2 Become absurdist
>nihilism is the observation that there is no inherent value Translation: Nothing is the focus that there is no value >you can be a nihilist and claim the meaning of life There is no meaning >is collecting as many toothpicks as you possibly can You can do that with idealism or "spiritualism", or... like Jews counting letters as numbers for weird secrets. It's all insanity. >it's just that you recognize that you decided on that meaning . That's called egotism, not nihilism. >personally i think even wanting life to have meaning is stupid Stupid = stupor (to be half asleep). Meaning = direction, it's what life does, it moves, forms, produces and reproduces. > it's the same as wanting a toothpick to have a meaning Toothpicks have meaning based on their application. Like a clock has meaning based on its application.
>Organic life = process of complex construction > is nothing but a genetic mutation an evolutionary adaptation produced by billions of lives living to the fullest >an accident Only if there is an outside judge claiming it to be not on purpose. That judge would be your little faggot ass.
>Your lives are measured in years and decades For coordination with the enviroment > You wither and die Because you're ALIVE.
>They will not let you live in peace. It's not in their playbook. Do you think they will get to "x" and then be like, well that's good enough we reached our goal! Not likely. Change your goals. You will never be a unicorn, that doesn't meaning "It's all for nothing!"
>Become absurdist College art fag with no talent or ideals
So why are you willingly trying to seek value from somewhere you know it doesn't exist? How can you say that nihilism comes from observation of nature, if you at the same time believe that value can only exist within the realm of your mind? Do you even really believe in your mind?
Cooper Fisher
>Values are found in your mind only. pfff, your mind isn't seperate from nature retard.
Mind is the world that I am in. I can never be fully in nature without being in my mind first.
Anthony Price
Nihilism is only the first step to absurdism. At some point, you have to realize that you are going to continue creating and searching for meaning, in spite of the obvious fact that none exists.
Matthew Evans
Jewish ciggs are called "time" because you worship EL/Saturn, lol?
Jacob Robinson
>In addition we can discuss alternatives to nihilism that are compatible with an atheisthic worldview(No muh God plz) Is Singularitarianism compatible with nihilism/atheism?
So where does nihilism come into play? Sounds you got a strong case _against_ nihilism going on here.
Jaxson Flores
>Mind is the world that I am in. I can never be fully in nature without being in my mind first. There is no seperation. Your mind is for the body. The info your mind uses is coming from enviroment and body. You cut your mind off from all of that it freezes forever. You're not a ghost in a shell.
>A nihilist doesn't care Huh? No a nihilist can care about those things. I care about those things because I recognize humans are split into subspecies and want one of the most valuable subspecies(whites) to remain. And I've decided that that idea is valuable to me because of my own subjective emotional impulses. There is nothing objectively correct about preserving whites, just like their is nothing objectively wrong about murder. These are all emotional impulses that have been deeply hardwired into us. This is why people "just know" murder is wrong without spending years reading philosophy or religious texts. It's very much a gut feeling, and 95+% of humans have that exact same gut feeling and so we shook hands on outlawing that in our societies. Valuing your people and wanting them to survive is almost entirely a tribal gut feeling, which may or may not be correct. You decide
And where did you get that nihilists believe might makes right? That's one possible view but the vast majority of nihilists conform to the same emotional impulses(read: same basis for morality) as most humans
Luke White
>I did not realize there were brothers among the pits of Jow Forums >We're rationally absudists! /b/
For me nihilism means that I realize my values are just as arbitrary as my favorite color or food.
Juan Green
This is me as well, I just want to take care of and stay with my family as the world turns to ashes. People don't want to be saved, they want to be fed.
Robert Ross
>want one of the most valuable subspecies(whites) to remain.
The delusion you have to be on in order to convince yourself that you are a nihilist.
Carson Reyes
Both of you are still describing egotism, not nihilsm. Nihilism is more like Buddhism
Caleb Brown
Absolutely! Infact that is a large part of my worldview and my hope for the future: human intelligence and technology. I have read alot of Ray Kurzweil and the like and I can't find very many flaws with what he is saying about the exponential progress of human technology, so I put my trust(you could say faith) into it occurring. I'm open to changing my mind
John Harris
>For me nihilism means that I realize my values are just as arbitrary as my favorite color or food. You favorites are not arbitrary, idiot. They've been constructed through complex processes.
The only distinction between me and others Is I recognize the preservation of whites is meaningless in the grand scheme of things, the universe doesn't care. Nature doesn't care, there is no Fictional Character floating in the ether that cares. The only people who cares is us, and the only reason we care is because of subjective emotional impulses that we have been hardwired to have. It still is very improtant and meaningful to me in this context.
Jason Rogers
>Complex, but meaningless. You dont even know when you're contridicting yourself. Complex = having much meaning Favorite = having special meaning
Nihilism is not about scope. You view the preservation of race as an intrinsicially highly valuable goal, because you believe that this sense of value has been hardwired to your existence. You aren't a nihilist. You are an idealist in denial.
Camden Hall
"morals" are what kikes use to control people "muh shoah, muh mass migration, YOU WOULDNT WANT TO BE MORALLY INCORRECT NOW WOULD YOU GOY?" and you see the socialists trying to use morals and virtue to get more people into what they believe, and it's all so insufferable. THEN you have all the christcucks on the american right that are pro life and want to save the lives of nigger babies and retarded kids by banning abortion. All in the name of morals, all in some misplaced sense of self-righteousness dictated by the dichotomy of "good vs evil". There is no good or evil, only strong and weak. Morality is subjective because the only ones that can enforce them are the state and cultural norms, fail to follow them you will be reprimanded by social alienation. When the state collapses who will dictate and enforce these morals? I have yet to see consistent morality, just a bunch of assholes coercing me into what i should think or else. But that's just moral nihilism. If whites weren't so "moral" they probably wouldn't be dying off as a race via mass migration and they would still be conquering shit skin countries and providing much needed genocide for population control. Morals are what drive suicidal whites into cancerous liberalism and virtue signalling. Nihilistic-Darwinism is the answer.
>nihilism >fulfillment It’s literally meaningless and inconsequential in your fucked up heads. Do us all a favor and kill yourselves already. It’s not like you have anything to live for.
William Mitchell
Dead meme ideology that everyone already accepts in the back of their heads. >If we're all aware how pointless everything is, then the least I can do is be kind. Boom, easy mode to being happy, so long as you aren't a depressed faggot.
Levi White
>I find myself caring less >Does nothing >Man nothing changes what the fuck Faggot.
Noah Miller
>itt we discuss how things have meaning when there is no meaning The only happiness to achieve in nihilism is via hedonism, not just with pleasure, but by calculating what provides maximal happiness via the hedonic calculus. However, this is defeated as soon as you realize that no objective meaning entails no objectively subjective meaning entails no actual subjective meaning and you are, if holding on to nihilism, left with the realization that everything is an illusion (of what? Who knows..)
Hunter Perry
Whoops, thanks.
Jackson Johnson
Oof, you got me. What am going to do now that you destroyed me. >We're rationally nihilist!
Nihilism is a double edged sword It can be turned on your enemies too
Jonathan Clark
Get a physically demanding job, and strive to be the best at it. Eat a healthy diet Get a hobby
Nathaniel Collins
Fulfillment is pratically impossible for anyone, however ,I don't care about 'muh race' or indeed anyones race, I don't waste my time or energy on whores, or others, or 'muh pointless genetic lineage' and I very much enjoy myself, and the peace and quiet I have to do all the things I love.
Suicide isn’t the answer, it’s only another escape from trying to answer the problem. The best answer at the moment is to embrace the absurd
Jeremiah Hall
Atheism isn’t nihilism True nihilism follows that atheism is just as absurd as religion
Landon Bell
An art fag once ruled an entire country
Austin Edwards
I justify my existence as being a single cell in the giant worldwide societal organism which aims to grow more and more robust and sophisticated just like life did up until now. You exist because the majority of cells in your body work together, so must human society work together to reach greater and greater goals.
Hunter Johnson
Camu
Dylan Gray
Nihilism is a huge waste of your time, don't be like the greys and fall for the stupidest joke in the universe
Carter Hall
Like what?
Alexander Turner
What is the punchline
Gavin Allen
>Fulfillment is pratically impossible for anyone
Fulfilment is possible for practically anoone. The only obstacle is you.
Benjamin Turner
Fulfillment is a chemical process Find the formula and you can feel it all the time
Ethan Russell
>Fulfillment is a chemical process What makes you think so?
Aaron King
you have no damn clue what nihilism really is if you you have hope for the future and humanity kys
Levi Clark
wait until you had a bad day or a loved one dies and you have to revisit all of your principals and value judgments that you built your foundation on top of and realize how flimsy and meaningless they are
Noah Gutierrez
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Learn how to obtain these chemicals and you will feel more fulfilled
Are you intentionally avoiding answering my question, or do you just not know? I ask you again: what makes you think that fulfillment is a chemical process? We do not even understand how consciousness is formed. Yet here you go declaring how the experience of fulfillment can be reduced down to a juvenile underrstanding of a couple of neurotransmitters.
Nathan Cruz
Yes, it is all fun and games until shit hits the fan, and now you really need a purpose and goal of living
I gave you the reason I believe what I believe. What is wrong with my answer?
Hunter Wright
I doubt it, good luck finding one peron who has left this life truly furfilled, without regrets, who isn't lying about it or putting on a facade.
Not gonna happen, however, I enjoy myself as much as it is possible to do so, which is more than most people.
Jordan Torres
No you didn't. You pulled out of hat a couple of neurotransmitters and pretended you had made a point. Consider this: I have no idea what your point is unless you actually tell me.
Jose Torres
Do you think the presence of regret precludes fulfillment?
