Varg Vikernes

A.K.A. Louis Cachet
Are there any valid arguments against his philosophy? Seems like all people have against him is ad-hominem and strawman.

He really seems like a "European Jesus", if you will. I'm no fan of e-celebs but as far as Europe and whites go I'd say this is our best hope of connecting to our real roots and restoring Europe to what it once was.

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No man can be more kucked than taking his wife's surname. This is s.oy levels of kuckery. This is Switch receiving from wife's bf level of kuckery. This is Sweden levels of kuckery.

You realy have to be an american to take varg seriously kek

This

See, this is what I mean. Ad hominem and strawman; honestly not a single one of you actually mentioning things relevant to his message or philosophy. What's going on with this nonsense?

Lives a redpilled lifestyle. A bit autistic when it comes to RPGs and shitty music. I wish he would publish his paganism explained works as one large book instead of 5 shitty little pamphlets

(((Paid opposition)))

I don't know why Varg gets so much shit on here. I mean I'm sceptical of some of the stuff he says, but he's a very interesting character.

>No fan of e-celebs
>he is European Jesus
How many extra chromosomes do you have?
Whoah there, we're not all retards.

I prefer his prepping stuff that this strange insistence that Europe was basically a green of Eden before Catholicism came along. But if you lived like him you'd be far better off than being a bugman. His house tour was pretty good.

Better to live debt-free in that rural France house than renting or taking a mortgage like most people.

To a low IQ potato like you maybe
Oh no its the brackets meme!

Because of pic related.

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I once spent a whole night crying listening to The Ways of Yore.

Hello JIDF.

Fuck off

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Okay, you want something relevant? First there is no such thing as Varg philosophy, he is just a volksist. Second, all he is doing is D&C, claiming that some how Blue eyed, light hair Europeans are some how better than darker, i have light eyes and hair and i dont fell superior to my southern european Brothers. Also he doesnt knwo anything about history, he said that vikings were defending european Faith and culture, while they were essencialy bunch of autistic cosmopolitan thieves & mercenaries

>purposely retard yourself and your family so when the zog come to your stupid little group of huts you made 30 miles away from town you have 0 hope of defending yourself
it truly is an unassailable "philosophy". everyone is btfo

When is he coming back to France, and more importantly, what is he doing in the USA? He was last spotted in North Carolina a few days ago.

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>Second, all he is doing is D&C, claiming that some how Blue eyed, light hair Europeans are some how better than darker, i have light eyes and hair and i dont fell superior to my southern european Brothers.
He doesn't claim this. He says that people with dark features have more non-European DNA but doesn't say they aren't inferior.
>Also he doesnt knwo anything about history, he said that vikings were defending european Faith and culture, while they were essencialy bunch of autistic cosmopolitan thieves & mercenaries
That was a lot of actual European culture, yes.
Holy fuck I'm dying kek

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He's alright.
At first I thought he was a joke, and in some respects he still exaggerates or misperceives his personal philosophy. However, I've grown to respect his personal philosophy. He's done a lot for himself and his family, and he procreates healthily. And certainly, his personal philosophy is better than most other "thinkers" and "voices" online; culture and family first, social and institutional conformity be damned.

Well how does an anarcho-primitivist society defend itself?

Only people that hate him are boomers, marxists and Trumpfags.

By living in the places where no one would attack them and in a way that no one would want to risk attacking them/find it worth it

Look at native Siberian, for example. If you could even find it in yourself to go all that way to buttfuck nowhere Siberia to launch a war against these people, why would you even do it? Siberian natives don't have wealth, gold, or whatever. Just their heritage and culture and ornamental/traditional objects which have no value in a corporate greed society.

They live simply and have nothing of real monetary value. So why attack them in the first place?

Varg is the epitome of what a Jow Forumsack wants to be. Legendary musician, always used his fame to promote pro-european and National Socialist causes (he even donated his album profits for NS movements). He has 7 blonde aryan children with a redpilled french noble wife and says pretty consistent stuff.

He is the only worthwile e-celeb (although he is technically just a "celeb").

He is so fucking based, that he had girls from as far as Australia come visit him in Jail to have sex with him (Yes, everyone reports he got several intimate visits).

He took his wife surname just legally, because banks and other business wouldn't open accounts to him due to his bad goy/ns stuff.

He still signs his books as Varg Vikernes, though.

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he slayed a manlet

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Because he's essentially a feminist, all traditionalists are. Claimed that Italians are basically arabs. He acts like an expert on history and agriculture when he's just an institutionalized crazy who's prison experiance helped to further damage his mind. And I dont know why he has to play the same larpy music in every video, the way that neopagans act is just cringy to me.

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1.) Makes up historical "facts" (such as Mediterranean people being of mixed Caucasian-African descent, Europe being stuck in the Ice Age most of the time, Vikings not raping when raiding, Ottoman conquests being the cause of the renaissance... The list goes on)
2.) Prevents his children from socialising by homeschooling them thus making them unprepared for when they venture out into the world and susceptible to future bullying
3.) Promotes non working farming techniques and useless off grid survival skills
4.) Has a hard on for Muslims
5.) Lives of government welfare system destined to collapse
And so on, and so on...

Wew I found the only non-retard American

he's not white

I haven't seen a valid argument

>Legendary musician
>This is... huh... wow

>Prevents his children from socialising by homeschooling them thus making them unprepared for when they venture out into the world and susceptible to future bullying
On average, homeschooled children perform better in life than public schooled children.

>Promotes non working farming techniques and useless off grid survival skills
Permaculture is better for the soil.

>Has a hard on for Muslims
No he doesn't, stop lying. He hates the hypocritical populist parties in Europe and the Muslims aswell.

>Lives of government welfare system destined to collapse
He doesn't.

You're retarded and misinformed.

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What about traditionalism is feminist to you? If anything there's nothing less feminist than women acting as basically brood mares and child rearers (which is exactly what his wife does).
>Claimed that Italians are basically arabs.
In terms of non-European DNA, they basically are not a whole lot different. This is what Varg means.
>.) Makes up historical "facts" (such as Mediterranean people being of mixed Caucasian-African descent,
See above, Varg claims only that they have more non-Euro DNA.
>2.) Prevents his children from socialising by homeschooling them thus making them unprepared for when they venture out into the world and susceptible to future bullying
You know his kids can go out and socialize after they're done schooling right? his kids do Karate which is obviously a social thing. Homeschooling is not exclusively reclusive
>3.) Promotes non working farming techniques and useless off grid survival skills
This I agree on, he needs to get his farming/off-grid in gear.
>4.) Has a hard on for Muslims
He admires their not cucking to Jews like Christians and America has, hence the eternal war in the Middle East
>5.) Lives of government welfare system destined to collapse
He doesn't get "welfare" but he gets child contribution, same as every single family in France. This isn't "welfare" in the sense of "I'm not going to work and collect neetbux instead".

whiter than you, Mohammed

L A R P E R

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If anything, a Christian would be the one LARPing as a Hebrew Israelite.

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>Varg is a feminist

Lol what? Varg doesn't act like an expert in agriculture, he is very open that he is starting - and starting PERMACULTURE at that - and that it takes years.

>everyone I don't agree with is muh fedora meme

And desu the deus-vult larpers we see today, ressemble more closely the whole fedora cringe.

That adds to it haha. But he said all the way back this was supposed to be a mockery of "poser" metal bands who did inane shit like that.

>pagan
enough said. deluded idiot pretending that anyone even has a clue

This kind of shit discredits his detractors.
1.) His opinion is that renaissance was heavily influenced by pagan culture
2.) I always see him taking his children places and they have a pretty large family
3.) I actually farm for a living he doesn't promote commercial farming practices at all.
4.) Seems like he has a hard on for Europeans as well.
5.) He has never said he lives off welfare he encourages you to receive the maximum payments from the government by having as many children as possible.
And so on, and so on...

/ourguy/. Literally bashes the kikes every video and does what he preaches.

I disagree with him on some points, I still like him though.

•The return to pagan traditions:
Not all Pagan traditions are the same, for some groups of people It would definitive be detrimental and decrease the collective's survival chances.

•Returning to a more primitive, natural and genuine lifestyle:
Apart from being very difficult, it's illogical as It would decrease the collective's survival chances.
This planet Will not last forever, we Need to escape it and to do so we Need to progress with technology.

•Waiting for the next glaciation and for society's collapse:
Too many risks.

Now these are some good arguments not just made up bullshit.
I don't agree with his philosophy of abandoning cities either. They can be made more livable instead of the shit holes they have become.

right, so the only natural perception you have is the one you know from culture and nature. we norwegians have heavy lore concerning nature. there are spirits in all sorts of things, in the well, in the mire, the mountains, the tidepool etc

Where the fuck has he been? He went AWOL for over a week now.

I agree but in some cities in the West I imagine they're too far gone. I don't think you can save Chicago or NYC, at least very easily...

1. He is not making up stuff when he claims that people have slight admixtures - all of us do, to some extent, even Scandinavians, there is hardly an entirely aboriginal people, of any race. The reality that Italians look, and are, very different than northern europeans is out there, though.

The evidence of vikings raping people in their raids is scant - and the christian writers had every reason to claim that, but still didn't - the concubinage practices they may have practices, differs little from what was the norm for christian nobility and what they did at that time. As for the Ottomans "being the cause of the Renaissance", he just stated that the Fall of Constantinople and the exile of greek intellectuals in the west AIDED that. Which is true.

2. The socialization-harming idea about homeschooling is a myth. In fact, schooling and being forced with people you don't like and who have nothing in common with you, in a place you don't like, almost every day, makes a lot more for "anti-socliaization".

3. His skills on gathering and off grid survival are pretty spot on. And when he promotes permaculture, he is not looking for the "most efficient" and profitable farming techniques, but for the most "organic" ones.

4. Not even close to liking muslims, has videos mocking them as "donkey rapists" and what not. He hates all abrahamic religions, and if he doesn't like christians, you can be he likes muslims even less.

5. He doesn't "live off it", and he wants it to collapse.

And so on...

He got banned from uploading videos for two weeks because he promoted bitchute on youtube

>I'm no fan of e-celebs
you don't really know who varg is do you?

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has he been making videos? i want to watch him

I personally believe we could us a societal collapse so we can actually get rid of the kikes/elites of this world. When we have learned from our mistakes of the past we can try again and aim for the stars, but this society will not last.

On his last video he made a post. He was promoting Bitchute on his YT channel and so he can't post for two weeks from then. Or something like that.
He's a real-life celeb too I guess.

Most european pagan traditions share the same root, though. Being dependent on the system that is completely owned by (((them))) would ensure our lack of chance of surviving, desu.

>Waiting for the next glaciation and for society's collapse.

Not really what he says, it's a bit more complex. But a valid point there.

Thuleanperspective

not that I know of. He's been commenting about his situation in his pinned comment on his latest video.

Ahhh, how retarded. Youtube is such trash I swear. He should upload in other places.

I think cities like NY are completely fucked. Chicago would be easier to transform due to its dilapidation and what crazy nigger wants to live in the cold and snow?

Just because he wants to role play as “The Last Viking” doesn’t mean I have to take him seriously or follow him. I would rather roleplay as a Crusader and strike him down every time. Because to have one God is stronger than many gods. To concentrate human willpower into one entity, the highest unmoved mover, embodied in the flesh of Jesus Christ, that is the power of Christianity. Love that is spread over a pantheon, aka polyamory, does not have the same conviction behind it as the monogamous relationship with Jesus. At the same time, I allow pagans containment, just don’t take from mine and tempt them with pseudo-psychology disguised as religion.

Yep I hear you man.

Story?

>What about traditionalism is feminist to you?

To basically let women have their cake and eat it too. The guy acts like men are solely to blame for the way western women have devolved but still believes they should have voting rights, he's gynocentric to the core. Maybe his wife is a legit trad woman but most women claiming to be such really aren't, and I still strongly suspect shes the one who wears the pants in the relationship when his camera is turned off. They want to hold onto their careers and receive the same perks from the state while wanting to be treated in a chivalrous manner. Literally the only reason his wife is with him is his fame. No 20 something is gonna want anything to do with a 40 year old unless he's got money, status or fame in his case. And he has to act like a pretentious holier than thou faggot about it.

>they basically are not a whole lot different.

He claims that they are outright nonwhite. Having some Levant or north African DNA does not make one an Arab. And these are mostly southern Italians anyway. He admits finns and Sami have mongoloid dna but still considers them to be white, its fucking hypocritical.

He does upload on bitchute (that is the reason why he got banned) and has a second channel, besides that of his wife (Marie Cachet).

Varg doesn't role play. He actually lives the life he preaches about.

>Just because he wants to role play as “The Last Viking”
He's not a huge fan of the viking, he says they were the end of the pagan era, that vikings cucked for christians for gold and materialism. What he likes is what was before the viking.

Men are solely to blame. They grew weak and corroded. Read "The Way of Men" by Jack Donovan. It will answer a lot of questions you have on this topic.

>0 hope
C'mon man, you know the guy that burned down all those Norwegian churches has a fucking shit time of viet cong traps and some rifles buried in his garden.

Dude you know we can watch his videos and see you are lying right?

The only reason in the world you typed what you just typed is because your ancestors were dirt-poor slaves and converted to Christianity because that religion in particular gives poor and enslaved people hope for redemption
Yep. Weak men hard times strong men good times etc.

>deus-vult larpers

I'm neither pagancuck nor christcuck. I'm basically a deist, religion isn't important to me.

Lol that outright hatred and paranoia about women. Varg doesn't believe women should have voting rights, he is not big on that whole "voting" thing... Women are not to blame for the actions of the Jews - the women are not the players there, making the policies that are ruinous to our people. This isn't to take all responsibility away from women, but to engage in petty gender-wars (muh "evil" white women, goy) rather than cherishing women, who make half of our people, is extremely counterproductive.

>He claims that they are outright nonwhite

He has EXPLICITLY said that this not the case and stated otherwise, and that they are majority white. He doesn't see Samis as whites, though.

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>deism
So you're a pagan rebranded

Men are to blame to an extent. But tradcucks dont even want to take women's rights away to rectify the problem. They won't admit that we should have never stopped treating women like cattle.

>be paranoid schizophrenic in black metal band
>Kill a guy because of your paranoid schizophrenia
>manage to get a girl pregnant but let her become a single mom (like a nigger)
>spend years hard time in jail (like a nigger)
>released from jail
>marry young stupid autistic girl who for some reason likes you
>have 5 kids you cant adequately support like a literal nigger
>support using welfare
>live in a shit shack in france with no bathroom and running water like a literal nigger
>excuse for this is you want to live more "simple off the grid life" despite still using internet
>claim to be a farmer but cant farm for shit (like a nigger)
>make excuses talking out your ass about how fruit trees cant handle the sunlight of france (there are literal flourishing fruit groves in flordia)
>make more excuses about snails and vermin eating your plants and saying "oh this is nature, we wont do anything about it"
>larp as a viking in the woods (like a literal autist)
>make failing dungeons and dragons copy
>become one of the most historically illiterate youtube personalities to ever exist
>make retarded claims such as that autistic people are more empathetic, that europeans are 100% neanderthal, and meds are negroid
>ban people on youtube when they call you out on your retarded theories

why the fuck does anyone take varg seriously. He is by far one of the most retarded people I ever listened to.

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He is pretty uninformed about genetics, just watch YouTube vids by survive the jive and you'll learn just how dilusional varg is sometimes. I think he's a force of good overall, but don't give him more credit than he deserves.

>Worrying about something that'll only happen eons after we went extinct

What's the bloody point of molding your life to prevent events billions of years away? Even if we disregard our solar death and start considering other extinction events like large meteors there's still basicaly a consensus that there's really not much that can be made to prevent it at all. The only option would be to leave for other planet, but there's also nothing showing that FTL travel (which would be absolutely necessary for a proper interplanetary civilization) is even possible. Seems pretty dumb to doom uncounted generations to unfulfilling lives on the off chance that will help millenia down the line desu.

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Based & redpilled German

>1.) Makes up historical "facts" (such as Mediterranean people being of mixed Caucasian-African descent
Objectively true. There's a notable North African/African/Middle Eastern admixture in Southern European countries. What did you think Muslim conquests and Roman slave imports among many other things didn't spread into the gene pool?


>Europe being stuck in the Ice Age most of the time
I'm not aware of Varg saying "all the time", however Ice Ages and mini Ice Ages WERE a part of life.

Etc.

>Prevents his children from socialising by homeschooling
As a teacher myself, homeschooling IS the superior method up until the point where your own knowledge and resources are surpassed by their pace.
That being said, whether Varg is socializing them properly is up for debate.
In a few videos he's shown or talked about his children playing with other children. Of course they are mostly at home, though. And in this case, it's good that he has so many children because this way they get quite a lot of socializing and practice amongst each other (which will needs to be supplemented with play with other children).

>3.) Promotes non working farming techniques and useless off grid survival skills
Off grid survival systems are just fine. Solar panels, limiting use or need in other aspects, etc. is both much better for the wallet and for the family.
>4.) Has a hard on for Muslims
Definitely doesn't
>5.) Lives of government welfare system destined to collapse
He takes no welfare (according to him) and has started how he makes his money
and saves money quite a few times.

This pasta again? This is what I meant by ad-hominem and strawman. Try something significant.

We can watch his videos and see your bullshit, you know.

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We could got to other solar systems now within our lifetimes. Our local cluster isn't that far away if you were to use nuclear powered engines and boost up to a fraction of the speed of light.
If we had done this with a probe in the 80's we would be receiving pictures of our nearest stellar neighbor now.

Treating women like cattle is retarded and has no objective. Men are the only reason societies die there is no other blame. Women are subject to external locus of control far more than men are. And women desire security and stability among all other things, thus they will seek the shortest step. It has always been a firm Man who kept the Order involved within not just the relationship but in society at large. This doesn't mean "treating women like cattle" which is a materialist way to view the world and automatically leads to degeneracy.

> implying that is not who we are
fuck off pagancuck

>Paul the Apostle

Also said this: For if the Gentiles have shared in the Jews' spiritual blessings, they owe it to the Jews to share with them their material blessings - Romans 15:27

Was pretty consistently philo-semitic and took great pride on being a "jew, first, and then christian".

>Origen

Literally chopped his balls off and said "everything good the gentiles had, they had borrowed from the jews". (Yeah, read the works of "Early Church Fathers" like him or Clement of Alexandria, such "white patriots", you will be surprised...)

>Saint Jerome and John

Jews have had bigger infights among their rabbis. Mohammed slaughtered thousands of jews, is Islam "based" and "our religion" because of it? Even North Korea calls out the yids.

>Luther

Who employed several jews in his translations, but only turned upon them after they scammed him. Started the judaizing of christian religion and religious wars that killed 40% of the german population.

>Hitler

Literally executed thousands of priests during "Kirchenkampf", and adopted a pagan symbol as the flag of his movement, while surrounding himself and the party high-ranks with open pagans such as Bormann, Hess, Himmler, Rosenberg, Darré, Ley and so on.

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Btw:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirchenkampf

>traditionalists
>feminist
We don't even have a scale for the level of autism it took to produce the mental gymnastics necessary to come to that conclusion.

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You stupid paganmutts don't even believe your gods are real.
You are all fucking obese larpers.

Burzum is breddy gud desu

No one knows who the Hebrew Israelites are; they were lost to history.

We do know for a fact that we (being whites/Europeans) largely descend from these same pre-Christians.

I've seen this copypasta before. Fuck off kike.

Read the Traditional Handbook of Living. It's short and gives you a more clearly defined viewpoint than "pagan".

>you don't believe your own gods are real
No, because I understand metaphor. Do you?

>his philosophy

Is basically "sit in a rotting hut in the countryside and wait till its all over goy, don't resist" and "muh placenta paganism"

He promised the downfall of civilisation several times now (last one was "China will go down in 2017 dude"). He is has some valid points about consumerism and environmental problems and is right that having many children is the key to European survival but the rest is an autistic divide and conquer rant.

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The West is falling apart and he is right regarding this. In a couple decades for example your country will be unrecognizable.

He misunderstands that everyone in the ancient world was pure Aryan™, including and especially Jesus Christ (not fictional Yeshua ben Yosef) and that Jesus really said to gas every kike you see and lynch all niggers too. The original OT was actually written in Proto-Germanic, not old Hebrew as the jews would have you believe. Come home white man and repent

>No one knows who the Hebrew Israelites are; they were lost to history.
ah, my deah deah lad, but I know EXACTLY who they are.
Would you like to go futher down the rabbit hole?

I just read my Holy Bible and that is where I get my traditional morals.

Wasting my time replying to such butthurt, but here we go.

>kick-start a whole musical genre with your one-man band, use it to promote pro-european values and NS causes
>kill a half-sami, communist homossexual who threatened to kill you
>creating white children is "being a nigger"
>marry qt blondes is "stupid"
>yeah, let's only allow niggers to use it
>living in a large property the beautiful french countryside is a "shitshack"
>he literally has his own spring and a big permaculture garden

But please, tell me how much he triggers you. LOL

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He never claims the African pagans were somehow inferior.

This is a strawman and you know it.

No one knows and there's no use pretending we do. Modern-day "Jews" have just as much claim as being the Hebrew Israelites as you do.