You cunts want to say €1700 a month for minimum wage is too much?
Lets do 1 weeks shopping in France for a family of 5 >1 night of Rotten ronnies = €40 >7 days worth of milk = €6.65 >7 days of bread = €9.10 >7 days of cheese cost €14.90 >7 days of eggs (2 each a day is 5 cartons) = €12.90 >7 days worth of chicken (2kg sounds fair) = €20 >7 days worth of beef (2kg sounds fair) = €31.68 >7 days worth of apples = 2.34 >7 days worth of bananas = 1.88 >7 days worth of oranges = 2.17 >7 days worth of onions = 1.73 >7 days worth of potato = 1.54 >7 days worth of tomato = 2.39 Lets call that it, no treats or anything that family is starving for €127.28 spent a week. Now lets times that by 4 to get a month wow €509 just on those basic meals? Not even any bacon or cereal with breakfast just eggs on toast? Better add monthly utilities (Electricity, Heating, Cooling, Water, Garbage) for 85m2 Apartment €139.95 = €649.07 Internet = €27.57 = €676 Family of 5? Oh shit.. child care is €644.83 = €1321.47 Guess a good primary schools off the table that is more than daddy earns €20,441.30 Guess daddy can't afford a house either so he will have to rent €977.48 = €2298.95 Bit over budget already, fuck, i didn't even factor in buying petrol for 2 euro per litre yet.
Need some incels to start taking out the trash. Only then can France be great again. This time lower your taxes to 10% income and 10% sales tax by law in perpetuity. And watch France become the 3rd world super power.
Nathaniel Young
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Ryan Lewis
That is fuck all food for a family of 5 to live on for a week.. literally poverty tier.
Aaron Rogers
The minimum wage is around 1185€ faggot
Jonathan Mitchell
Me
Joshua Roberts
>Family of five >Earns minimum wage Well there’s your problem, your earning a wage a teenager should earn.
Kevin Flores
These things you've mentioned don't cost any less here. Rent is higher in France. Anyway, what is your point? Of course a family needs around 2000 euros/month to sustain a vaguely middle-class existence in Europe.
Parker Rodriguez
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Daniel Richardson
now extrapolate what it must be like for the third world. capitalism sucks dick
Luke Hughes
days of garlic (2 cloves each a day is 98 cloves) = €12.90
David Martin
And you think that is a good thing? Minimum wage in Australia which has comparable living costs to France is $719.20 per week which is 40k a year or $3355 a month which is 2,122 euro a month... People in france are asking for 1700 a month that is not much... You think 20,000 euro a year is too much when 25,000 euro a year is hardly enough to live in a country with comparable cost of living?
I mean come the fuck on and grow a brain.
Julian Rogers
>Of course a family needs around 2000 euros/month to sustain a vaguely middle-class existence in Europe.
He didn't decribe the middle class. OP wrote about Food, Internet, car and rent.
Middle class means: Own house or flat. Able to afford some kind of hobby. Visiting restaurants sometimes.
Grayson Wilson
We literaly do nothing except smoke hash in france since everything is so expensive. We're #1 for youth cannabis use in the world. I'm middle class btw, can't even imagine how lower class manage to survive
Brandon Jenkins
>ou cunts want to say €1700 a month for minimum wage is too much? do 1700x2 and you have 3400€ a month if you assume a family of 5 (Father,Mother). Thats more then enough to feed a family.
Angel Rodriguez
They don't even get that though they get like 1k a month they are asking for 1700. So 1x2=2 which means a mother and father working full time will earn the same as some 18 year old Australian at his first job per month.
Christopher Gutierrez
If you can't see how this is a problem France will have millions of homeless people in the coming future as there are millions of French people on these frankly slave wages.
Jonathan Kelly
The problem with this, and with the Trump pogramm and the modern world in general is that you don't add bullshit-jobs into it and no "bullshit jobs" isn't some leftwing meme, there are car manufactor workers in germany who totally believe that they work to help the "robot" do its job, and they work besides the robot as if the robot couldn't do it himself. The robot can, but if they would do it, hundreds of thousands would lose their jobs
Once people ask for a better wage they'd all lose their jobs
Joshua Allen
why dont you just make everything less expensive????
Andrew Peterson
bullshit, french people are the laziest people in europe. The want higher wage but at the same time they want to work less even though they only have a 35 hour week which is the lowest work hours by law in europe.
Henry Barnes
Is that not why people are also asking for less tax?
Alexander Green
Why are you blaming poor people for only being given 35 hours of work a week at minimum wage rates? Do you just hate people that are stupid? Because that is generally who poor people are, just a bit slow and they had no rich parents to "guide" them.
Carter Gonzalez
you did good by posting actual numbers and more of us should argue in real numbers. being a kraut i can assure you the amounts of money you mentioned are exactly the same over here.
some numbers from me and my wife (no children): - around 1100€ for rent of a terraced house un a small town 30min away from big city - around 300€ for food (we are both able cooks) - around 200€ for drinks(cheap stuff) - gas, water and electricity 240€ - webz 30€
we own no car and we don't have to use the train. yes, rent is high but going cheaper would mean way to work would be much longer and I'd risk not finding a job.
so that makes 1870€ a month not including clothing, work on the house or ANYTHING. which in reality makes it around 24.000€ a year to be able zo live like that not including tax. With tax it means at least 40.000€ a year. AT LEAST.
That's 45.000$ for two persons zhat live basic, don't go out and don't own a car.
Samuel Thomas
>single earner >minimum wage >family of 5 Found your problem
Kayden Lopez
>merkel's slave hans seething over countries where work conditions are better and the people demand it to be so dont go to bed to late tonight wagie
Leo Bennett
That is completely fucked to hear mate. The world is on the edge of another great depression and what came after the depression? war. History is repeating beat for fucking beat this is insane.
>He didn't decribe the middle class. OP wrote about Food, Internet, car and rent. Sorry, I'm going by my living standards. If I have these things I consider myself more fortunate than most, therefore middle class. It might be wrong on definite sociological terms.
Eli Jackson
This, i earn about 70k aud a year which is like 44k euro yet i own a house and 2 cars and 2 motorcycles but apparently id need to earn 55k euro to be middle class in France.
Jason Green
Oh sorry i just qualify. >By its definition, >a household of three would have to earn between $42,000 and $125,000 to qualify as middle-class.
Adrian Foster
French are actually the hardest working people in europe, they wouldn't have the most holidays in europe if they were lazy and couldn't finish their work.
Eat shit lazy kraut.
Dylan Edwards
>French are actually the hardest working people in europe, they wouldn't have the most holidays in europe if they were lazy and couldn't finish their work.
I'll bite, what industry is actually in France? Who wants to seriously hire people who will only work 4 days a week and take three months off for vacations a year?
Sebastian Rodriguez
You can pull your long face as long as you want, your shitty stereotypes about countries on your border mean nothing to the simple fact that french people are able to do the work they need to do on less hours.
Why is no one talking about this financial collapse? Is this the happening we are all being distracted from? Unemployment during the great depression was around 25% and things are fucking headed that way with people homeless and unable to even get to work then businesses closing.
as long as the dreaded 1% earn their money and we keep watching tv instead of taking the streets there is no need for them to unmask the great fake that's modern capitalism
some wars in the me will do for keeping us barely alive while they spend thousands on makeup and drinks each week.
Ian Johnson
>during the great depression cant compare that to current situation there was no bread and circusses like we have now also socialism keeps people from seeing how much poverty there actaully is coupled with the idea that not being a millionaire is emberassing these days and we have serfs who are complacent as long as the internet works
William Martin
this system is BUILT so nothing ever happens while keeping up a good show for us peasants
Blake Martinez
Because I'm hungry
Dominic Peterson
>Family of 5 >Minimum wage, one income household
I have no sympathy for these types of people. Don't overpopulate or breed outside of your means of survival and you won't have to cry about shit like this.
Chase Moore
This is true, and transportation time and meal time are not included within the 35 hours, only effective work time is. Bosses usually pay a specific attention to this.
Benjamin Perez
tell that to Tyrone and Achmed you massive faggot
Isaiah Garcia
the 1% doesn't know... the 0.01% runs the show and they don't want anyone to know because if the 1% stops spending money then they stop getting even richer.
We are obsolote, thats what it is and these people in the EU and the likes make their plans to go this way >Work like in the 60s -> more and more Automatation / less jobs -> Make people pay more taxes to subsidize all the people that have no more jobs -> continue until everything is automated and everyone gets little check at the start of the motnh They really believe this is how its going down, this is also why they are so surprised at Brexit, because they think "people just didn't understnad our super intelligent master plan
Joseph Walker
Sweden don't even have a minimum wage.
Jordan Hill
>Family of 5 >One breadwinner on minimum wage If you think people like this should have it easy you should kill youself
Blake Howard
swedens minimum wage is $13usd...
Aaron Cook
You sound very Jewish if you think a country as rich as france needs to have poor people even if they work a full time job.
David Fisher
Someone got to pay for the migrants and the State subventions for media sand big corporations
we have almost none. We have some factories left but they're full of robots and require some degrees to get in.
the reason we have vacations or 35 hour weeks is that the railway guys have the country by the balls and strike all the time to keep it that way because they get even better deals than the average wagecuck
>family of 5 >one income at minimum wage yeah, you're just a fucking commie
Matthew Phillips
That would be fuck all food for a family of 3, fuck i am pretty sure i eat twice that a week...
Ian Brooks
you don't really seem to get that it's hard to find jobs that earn more if you don't have a degrees and are willing to work 40h official, 45h in reality (unpaid overtime) and don't want to live in a 3room apartment in the city for 1000€ rent. and of you live outside the city you can add around 70€ for public transportation and 2h each day of commuting.
Luis Thomas
Just eat potatoes
Aaron Lee
Uncensored video of the blown off hand. It's recommended not to pick up explosives to throw back.
Exactly, poor people should stay poor and only ever be able to get poorer and they should have abortions and contribute to white genocide because they can't afford to have kids.
Seriously you should be able to live on minimum wage... just because you have a decent job does not mean everyone can get the same position. What if you get fired and all the work you can find for 5 years is minimum wage? Will you complain about it then?
Colton Smith
Crazy thing is public opinion of Jews worldwide is the same as it was in 1928 2018 = 1928 in so many ways that it is not fucking funny, financial collapse in the next 2 years and world war within 11
Parker Jenkins
>what is most jobs are being pushed toward minimum wage
Colton Moore
They don't have one "minimum wage" for everyone, there are several grades of minimum age: younger than 21, younger than 30 and everyone else. In most cases people earning minimum wage are people with no work experience (so, youngsters). They won't have a family of 5.
Aiden Rivera
They have huge maritime engineering industry, good cars, great agriculture. Citroen C3 is really good car for its money. I wish they’d import that to the US
having a family while making minimum wage is incredibly short sighted. KYS froggy
Joseph Ward
see
Connor Harris
also that is hardly enough food for 1 person for a week.
Ethan Wilson
You know that stats that show "distribution of wealth" include toddlers, children, teenagers, young workers and retirees, right? And that distribution of wealth correlates with people's age? The older you are, the more salary+wealth you have. Except for like 1% poor people and 1% rich people. But for 98% of people that's the rule. So, like at least first 35% on the picture are first 3 groups.
Owen Gutierrez
Australia has the same thing and that is not what we are talking about we are talking about adult minumum wage.
Luke Gray
Do you want me to make a thread about Russia? Because i would just no one would care.
Liam Miller
The oligarchic collective in your country is strong, but know that you have the support of millions around the world. We will not abandon you. Keep fighting.
Christopher Diaz
Kinda agree with it, since the family in OP would happily buy stuff the cheapest way out of a third world country because its cheaper than other products, not because they have to. But also means the third world people should do something againt their problem too
