MARXISM BAD! No mind left to change!

This Ethiopian victim of the Red Terror disagrees with communism and it's suicidal social engineering.

Prove me wrong.

You can't, because he's dead...

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Child slaves picking your covfefe or cocoa for chocolate also disagree,but they have no choice or say in the matter because they are born faaaar faaaar away

I am forced to sell the fruit and tomatoes I am growing to corporations,they destroyed all local markets and now everyone pays more fore pills and healthcare because they eat processed shit.

>forced

Voluntarily you retarded cunt

>forced

You’re a loser with no talent who can’t do anything other than work in Burger King. You have no one to blame but yourself for your inferiority

Excuse me Mr. Freedom I am the one who is FORCED to participate in your Global Capitalism, Jewish Stock Market Roulette which is creating ECONOMICS from thin air while exploting the labor of the whole world, but I will shut up and agree - I am filthy because I work with my hands and I keep my crap in my shithole, because I have a hole to shit in which will be very difficult to move...makes nice fertilizer though...

>I am forced to
Lie. Leftwing scum never take responsibility for anything

Ok thought experiment...

Forget wages and labor just think about what it takes to keep the human body alive. Food and water.

Try laying in bed for a year. You will die. In order to eat you have to move around the house, use your arms, jaw etc. Without that effort (which we will call "work") you cannot sustain yourself.

It is impossible to stay alive without work. It doesnt matter if a rich guy gets richer because of your work. That part is irrelevant. It doesnt matter if you work for the rich guy or for yourself as a survivalist living off the land.

>forced
>exploiting

Kill all Marxist scum

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>I am forced to sell the fruit and tomatoes I am growing to corporations
No you aren't, you could sell them at a market stall or to a greengrocer or from the back of your van or just keep them and eat them yourself. This is a world away from your Gommie utopia, where you are forced to simply give your produce away to the Party, and hope that they choose to compensate you fairly (spoiler: they won't).

get a job you faggot leech

You must meme flag because you aren't american. There are plenty of programs to help people and start your own company even.

No-one is forcing you to work for anyone, you are free to go live innawoods and survive on your own wits if you think you're capable of that.
>Bu bu bu I want all the benefits of living in an advanced western country REEE
Then get a job you lazy hippy.

>which is creating ECONOMICS from thin air
As if you know the first thing about economics. Commies don't even understand fucking supply and demand, let alone fractional reserve banking.

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Show your flag so I can laugh at you.
>maymayflag
>valid opinion
Choose one.

Listen, guy. You are right about capitalism being evil. Liberal democracy is certainly worse than communism, but why subscribe to MARX and his theories that have never and can never be in reality actually implemented? Why not be a fascist instead? What real world advantage does Marxism have? It's infinitely more unlikely to be implemented in the way Marx actually outlined it. Why an international movement? Why try to eliminate ALL hierarchy? Why no private property? Why NO profit profit incentives at ALL?

>hur dur employers exploit laborers because they make money after contributing most of the cost of production
>so your wages should be seized and given to welfare niggers. To fight exploitation. Hur dur.
Why are all leftists retarded?

So 100% of the world's population FORCED (no quotes) to give their LABOR to the government is better ?

>bitches about no love for homeless
>doesn't let 40 homeless into his home
Must be good being a card carrying member of the party, huh?

You mean get a "real" job in Customer Service like you guys? Creating real economic value by answering complaints all day? Bringing value and change?

Is this strawman the best argument you can manage, maymayflag?

Customer service jobs are for retards and school children.

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Get any kind of job, it doesn't matter, you have your pick of any kind of work you like (provided you're qualified ofc).

>As an "Eastern European Scum

Uh huh, let's see the flag then.

Stawman calling maymayflagging! Oof, mate,please, no... I am defeated...Call an ambulance...What difference does it make if I am born in Ostrava, Bitola, Tutrakan, Ulanbataar or Ouagadougou?

So you're saying everyone should be a self sufficient, God fearing yeoman farmer and let filthy urbanites and African niggers just starve to death? I'm on board with your plan. Do you have a news letter?

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Flag is Bulgaria, larping as Commie Scum just to screw with Amerifags who get their jimmies rustled when they see the Hammer and Sickle or hear anything about sharing their shit with others.

The State knows best. Remember, big brother loves you.

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Prove it.

>muh equity

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>sharing
It's not sharing when it's involuntary. If I break into your house and take your tv, you're not "sharing" with me.

Lol. People under that flag killed your subhuman countrymen, not mine. The only rustling thing is they didn't finish the job, parasite.

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>Flag is Bulgaria, larping as Commie Scum just to screw with Amerifags who get their jimmies rustled when they see the Hammer and Sickle or hear anything about sharing their shit with others.

Funny af. Bulgarian living off Nigerian prince phone scams praising communism.

Yeah, the Government...Not Nestle who wants more profits for Mr. Schneider(not jewish btw) and tries to get the cheapest labor by hiring the scummiest people possible to organize their supply in order to balance the Sacred American Demand which is to have EVERYTHING at ANYTIME in a corporatestorenearyou_tm

>having things is bad

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Gonna prove you are a Bulgarian flag?

% of the world's population "FORCED" to give their "LABOR" for a corporation in order to have shelter, get food, pay for water, electricity,internet,information
Yeah, it would be better if 100% of the world's population was forced by nature to eke out a subsistence through hunting, gathering and primitive agriculture.
Oh wait, your system requires some other successful system to exist to plunder and when there's nothing left of the old society to live off of, your shit system collapses? Yeah, let's totally do that!

Sure, with proof.

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Anti capitalist word speak will not be tolerated. The Nestle Stasi agents will be knocking at your door soon.

Hint: You're a goon.

If you want to make money in Bulgaria, try opening a hair removal salon. The demand is huge there.

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>Have you ever made your food?
Yes, because I live in a society and economic system where land ownership is common and having one's own garden on one's own plot of land isn't forbidden. In a Marxist system I could neither hold my own property or make my own food, I could only work the state's property and make the state's food and hope they apportion enough of their food to me so that I can continue working their land.

Communists don't believe in demand.

While I'm no defender of capitalism, neither can I allow incorrect Marxist critiques and rhetoric stand unchallenged. Only nationalism and populism seeks to ensure the security and prosperity of the people and is so successful at it that capitalists and communists join forces to shut it down whenever it emerges.

Communism kills niggers? Nice try, commie, I'm not falling for it, communism feeds niggers and uses them as weapons against whites.

Yes, you are correct...if we lived 50 years ago forced to read ,watch and listen to Propaganda all day by the state Party. But now we have technology,internet and libraries in our pockets,you can talk with anyone in the blink of an eye but we don't do that shit because MUH FREEDOOOOOOM to have everything at any time I want,although I am not using it 90% of the time and I feel lonely,empty and meaningless.

You can be homeless if you want to not work. You can also figure out how to homestead somewhere and live off the grid.
Under communism you get put in the gulag if you don't want to work 12 hour days with no breaks.

The only problem with communism is there is no incentive to work hard. It’s idealistic to say we can reorganize human society to cooperate instead of compete but every time it’s been tried we get sub par results of inefficiency and food shortages. The majority of people will do the absolute minimum and take as much as possible from the system.

>I feel lonely,empty and meaningless.
I don't think I've ever met a commie that actually liked their lives. Just because your life is shit why do you want to ruin everyone elses? You guys are such cunts.

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There are other problems. That's one of the big 2 though, the other being the lack of price signalling to match supply to demand.

Friendly reminder that it is legal and moral to kill communists.

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This thread has big gay.

I am larping as a Communist mate,no offense, but there is no other way to rustle your american bald eagles to start thinking about the fucking Meaning of Life. In school we are being taught - shut up,memorize these laws,don't help others,you are on your own and learn to work without thinking or asking questions,because slavery is waiting around the corner.

Communism is just impossible without infinite resources. The entire premise behind capitalism is that resources are limited. Communism doesn't even give half a fuck about that. They actually think everyone would be able to get everything equally. It does not plan for disasters or shortages at all. Hence, millions starving to death.

"Real" communism would be even worse than the authoritarian ones that HAVE to be set up in order for communism to even be tried. There is no way to have a country full of millions of people work together without some kind of organization (ie government). Groups would just decide to do their own things and it would ruin it. If there was infinite resources though, then communism would be the best system. Unfortunately we do not live in a fantasy world, although many communists seem to think we do.

>I am forced to sell the fruit and tomatoes I am growing to corporations
You're not forced to, you choose to do so because it's more convenient than selling your produce directly to the public as you have no retail infrastructure, just production infrastructure. Just like selling one's labor to an employer for a guaranteed monetary return is more convenient than taking risk by being an entrepreneur, selling one's produce to a mercantile middle man for a guaranteed monetary sum all at once is more convenient than selling it to the public one's self over a period of time.
Without corporate retailers, what would you do with your produce? Sit in some roadside stand, wasting time selling your produce to whoever passed, losing a percentage to spoilage, and losing time in which you could be producing more produce to sell to a retailer or wholesaler?

No incentive to work hard, but Imaginary Papers with Numbers are a great incentive? It's all about belief - if you believe that you are not a part of a system created to pave the way for a few "chosen" people and give them everything they need while others starve to death or die because of lack of healtcare freely available in other places of the world, then it is your choice.

I'm going to use my capitalist lucre to pay a burly nigger to chop off your cock and jam a fist full of Legos up your ass. And light you on fire.

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And how is Capitalism growing every year - by digging money from oil and burning it in the air for us to breathe FREE!

Very true. Supply and demand also naturally makes enough of everything in the right quantities needed as opposed to more or less guessing under a centrally planned economy.

>Global Capitalism, Jewish Stock Market Roulette which is creating ECONOMICS from thin air while exploting the labor of the whole world
Yes, and the labor of the whole world exploits global capital's need for its labor and consumption to acquire shitty nigger tech and entertainment pop "culture" trash and are happy about the deal because the labor of the world is mostly morons.

>literally aruging people are too lazy to make their own food
Nice job faggot

Oh you're a global warming believer too, bahaha poor thing, it's retarded. So how about you give up your car huh?

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>you are free to go live innawoods and survive on your own wits
Actually, you're not allowed to do that, go try it and you'll get fucking Ruby Ridge'd.

It would be "no food" regardless of how you put the "work" there.

>"FORCED"
Thank god they are "forced" and not forced.

Well yeah the “imaginary papers with numbers on it” is what you have to live on for all your needs and wants. You will work hard enough to get enough of it to at minimum survive and usually even harder to save some up and buy nice things.

Water isn't a human right. There are no human rights. Rights are bullshit idealistic abstractions with no tangible existence or justification.

Yes, You will work hard for your money, and one day you will have enough and live in a castle with private jets and hookers and blow! Yay American Dream! Money is great! back to work everybody, problem solved. Nice try JIDF!

Yes, you have no rights,idealism is bullshit, money is everything, your fellow humans do not deserve your respect, burn everything, yeees, yeeeeeees

You are absolutely free to live off the land away from society as long as you're not on private property.
>Ruby Ridge
has literally nothing to do with living innawoods.

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>But now we have technology,internet and libraries in our pockets
Yes, you have these things because systems that were not Marxism existed and were successful and created these things. But, no, let's totally smash productive systems and take all their shit because I WANT STUFF, GIMME, FUCKING GREEDY CAPITALIST PIGS!
You're making me fucking defend capitalism, are you happy? I sure as fuck am not. We could be criticizing capitalism and globalism together, but you gotta play with some obsolete Talmudic bullshit lazied up by a shiftless Jew.

>cheapest labor by hiring the scummiest people possible
lol dumb fuck. You just played yourself. You showed "class consciousness" and then proceeded to shit on the "lower class". Communists truly are lying piece of shit that want to enslave us all.

The only problem with communism is it's a bullshit mixture of idealistic utopian rhetoric and cynical rhetoric playing on individual greed and envy which is all just a mask for Jewish-dominated totalitarian control of the goyim.

Come on mate,your point is that the "successful" system of Capitalism was NOT built on slavery,which was NOT built on despotism and monarchism and tribalism and so on...Please read some history before the American One which starts some 200 years ago.

>The entire premise behind capitalism is that resources are limited.
Capitalism believes in infinite growth and that the pie can be grown, it does not view economics as a zero sum game, it would have to view economics as a zero sum game if it actually recognized resources are finite and that, while there is always potentiality for growth, in any instance there is only a finite amount of resources, production, economic activity making economics a zero sum game.

FUCK JIDF and their shifty ways!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinuy

Look, if you raise a human to value money more than human life and love you get sociopaths and people struggling to find their meaning in life when they lose their supply of belief(money).

>cheapest labor
At least they are paying, comrade.
The party would not pay anything.
The party simply orders you to do stuff.
When you deny, you will be put to death.

I hear the fuckers typing with their noses not to disrespect the Shabbath while counting shekels with their elbows. You are all psychopaths If you think you are CHOSEN and worth more than someone else by DEFAULT

Infinite growth is not the same as infinite resources. And besides that, capitalism does not believe in infinite growth. The entire premise behind supply and demand is that there will be downturns and those downturns affect the supply and demand. Same with upturns. The business cycle completely recognizes the ups and downs that occur in businesses. See pic related, this is literally the first thing that is stated in an economics review course focusing on free-market capitalism. Why are you talking about economics when you have never even taken a basic course?

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Supply and Demand when enormous quantities of food are thrown out in 1st world countries and 3rd world countries are struggling to eat 1 time per day. Basic course in trickle down economics? No thanks!

Dude, did you live in socialism before? Because in socialism you are forced to work, otherwise you are labeled as the enemy of the state. You just reverted the thuth with your statement.

No one forces you to have a job commie. You are free to beg on the streets if you prefer. Kys

>by digging money from oil and burning it in the air for us to breathe FREE!
Yeah, because you pay them to dig up that oil and burn it for the electricity you use, for the technology you were touting in an earlier post, for that computer phone in your pocket. Are you living as a primitivist? No, you're a part of the system you pretend to rebel against, you're the creator of the demand for all of the evil capitalist exploitation you impotently rail against. Not just a part of the system, you are the system.

Dobru noc! Yes, I lived in the grotesque totalitarian autocratic oligarchic communist "utopia"which was Bulgaria before 1989. Greed, chosen people and more value to money and profits than human life will get you this result everytime.

>You are absolutely free to live off the land away from society
You're really not, you're just deluded or ignorant.
That's not what I'm saying at all. Money is as much bullshit as rights are.

That's not true at all though, there are plenty of ways to pay the bills that don't include working for a corporation. Laboring to survive is just basic necessity. You want someone else to labor for you to survive instead of having to do it yourself?

Do you think we can just move all that food that is thrown out over to them? Food spoils you mongoloid idiot. If Africans cared so much about starving to death they would do something about it. Just because Africans are low IQ and starve to death doesn't mean we should adopt a system that would cause us to starve to death too.

Yeeeees,yeees, everyone for himself, others are stupid and should eat shit, I have everything I want - they can have it too, but not here. BTW, please dig these precious metals 20 hours per day, so I can give them to my girlfriend to wear 2 times in 20 years. THKS!

>system of Capitalism was NOT built on slavery
It wasn't, it was built mostly on voluntary exchanges, horribly stupid voluntary exchanges in many cases, but still voluntary exchanges. You voluntarily exchange with the system, that third world brat in the sweatshop who you think is a poor exploited slave is voluntarily exchanging with the system, too, and gaining from it personally in the form of a shitty wage and the consumerist luxuries that can be purchased with it and to hell with what happens to his society, just like to hell with your society because you can buy shit and enjoy comforts and all the while pretend to be a revolutionary to soothe your conscious and push blame onto everyone else.