what to do when everyones advice is so terrible and stupid and just, seems to not understand what your problem is? All my life, peoples advice is just so terrible. Family, teachers, peers, counselors, it doesn't matter, they are all trash. And I can actually try their advice, to make sure, do everything exactly as they tell me, and it makes everything so much fucking worse. And now my life is worse, and those same people now try to dig themselves into my life deeper, give me MORE advice, make things worse, and rinse and repeat. And now my life just feels like everything is so piled up, so on the brink of everything suddenly collapsing, everything will go wrong at once, and everyone around me is so fucking useless, whether or not their intent is genuine, or they just like to hear themselves talk
What to do when everyones advice is so terrible and stupid and just, seems to not understand what your problem is...
Usually when people find themselves in a situation where everyone else seems to be the problem, it really turns out in the end that they themsleves were the problem. Either stop taking shitty advice or start acting on it in a less shitty manner.
/ end of thread, problem solved
have considered it, but considering it doesn't do much by itself. What is the problem about me, how bout being specific
>What is the problem about me, how bout being specific
You could start by telling us what they told you in regards to what your problems are.
this, typically the best advice is also the kind of thing that you don''t want to hear.
can be very cyclical. But skimming over a lot of stuff, as a really young kid I was angsty or weird I guess, and so no friends. And then they tell me to fix that I need friends, but it's hard to get friends because I am angsty/weird. Tell me to just try being positive and friendly, which just makes me into sort of a dork, get made fun of, get made fun of by kids for going to the counselor in the first place. Still no friends, end up on medication for depression and anxiety. Everyone is mad at me because i have no apparent reason to be fucked up, I wasn't beaten or anything, so they sort of look down on me, makes things worse. Get pushed into computer sci major in college because if I just focus on something like that, that will set me right, and I'll end up with a good job and a family and everything, and I collapsed in that, one semsester just failed every class I took, when I had never failed any class before. Graduated, but by switching to a dumb major, psychology. GPA destroyed anyways. Dad gets me to go to a community college, to do manufacturing shit, because he knows thats more what Im cut out for, fail at that again, and now I work jobs that I could have gotten if I had dropped out of high school. And still they all try to fucking push me into something I can't do, they want to push me out into going to socialize with people I can't talk to, and push and push and push and it just gets worse every time
That's oversimplifying things a lot, for instance lot of time it's like multiple voices all trying to shove contradictory advice down my throat. But it doesn't really matter because even if they all gave the same advice it would still make everything worse
>looking outside yourself for answers about yourself
tsk tsk.
I have tried mediation and other shit if that is what you are getting at, just one more piece of useless advice people have thrown at me
BUMP
oh so NOW humanity has no advice. Normally you wont shut up, but when it comes to how to deal with advice itself, thats when you stop, because why, you just want me to keep taking it even though it doesnt work?
waaaaa i want my life to be magically fixed without putting forth any effort
what's the effort I didnt put in?
We've already said our piece, that's all.
If you want hard results, you get to do hard work. Conglaturation, is life. Wilkommen auf Zauberberg, bitch, everyone makes the climb.
The problem is you look at people sweaty and tired, resting a spell, and you think you want that-- that rest you earned, that rest that FEELS as good physically as it does mentally. You just refuse to work. And when confronted by this, you turn that outward and tell us it's our fault, surely not you. Surely, you-- the one common consistency in all of your life's failings-- are not to blame for your own misery. It must be in the hands of some great villain into whose chest you can plunge Excalitrash, brand of the fuckboy.
I'm, like, one hell of a basket case. One year unemployed basket case. Breaking out of that into retail basket case. But fuck, at least I ain't sitting here wondering why it's everyone else's fault.
the fact that you're blaming everybody else except yourself for your problems tells me that you're not accepting responsibility for your actions. it seems like you're expecting instant results and when you do not get them you throw all your problems on whomever is trying to help you.
you don't want to improve your life, you just want to be unburdened and you blame everybody else for that.
well what makes you think I dont work? I do work. I am maybe too stupid or something for a few types of work but I do work.
so let's just assume that you've won this argument. you're totally 100% right. what are you left with? the satisfaction of everyone else being wrong? i don't understand where you're coming from, but this board does have plenty of people come here that proclaim that their problems are all someone else's fault, then they gleefully argue with everybody who tells them otherwise - it seems that they'd rather win on an internet board than try to be happy or fulfilled. but I don't know you in real life, that's just the impression I get. you're the only person who knows whether you're happy or not.
The fact that you jump to a defense tells me you missed the point. The point is that you're interested in getting results, not in doing work.
That being the case, either condition yourself to DO work (if not to LIKE it), or get used to meager rewards in life.
This isn't about 'work,' it's about the idea that what you're doing could take one, two, or even five years and committing to that effort cannot be anathema to you like it is now. I don't mean your hobby of roleplaying or gaming or guitar, either. I mean working out, studying, setting to breaking bad habits or starting good ones.
Blaming everyone else is not listed as an option because it will accomplish exactly fucking nothing. It's the bastion of defense of the lazy and the unsustainable, a defense by dimwits to make smarter people take up the buck. Considering how many people are willing to accept a meager lot in their lives, it becomes pretty annoying to say people around you are 'useless' when, with the internet at your fingertips, you seem unable to find your own leads to your own problems.
You are the result of your own actions and choices.
I don't want to be right, I want help, but I'm very doubtful of getting any, and am going to be very skeptical before applying anything anybody says
so you aren't even telling me to do anything differently than I'm doing in the main, since I am working, you just say I should keep doing that. I could already do that, i could see myself being fine with just working a menial job with no real advancement for the rest of my life, not really hoping to ever get past that, I'm fine with that. The problem comes in from the other people then coming and trying to get me not to do that. Like, yes, I am blaming something on other people, but the way I see it I am trying to just commit to one, low, way of life and they are the ones trying to push me towards some sort of "result". Ive had to deal with my dad sitting me down and crying telling me he wants me to have a better job, everyone trying to push me towards things I cant do, which takes AWAY my focus on the work I am actually trying to do, which you seem to agree I should be doing. And I could probably just completely tell all my family and everyone else I ever knew to just fuck off forever, I don't really need them for anything, but I would still feel guilty about that.
You have to look at yourself from outside though, dude. And to do that you have to look outside first. So look outside to find the outside, and then put yourself there mentally and look back at yourself.
Looking at yourself FROM yourself isnt even really looking at anything
All advice is terrible because all advice is based on the persons own experiences, own perspective, own ideals, and own beliefs. The only way you ever find the answers that truly work for you is to ask yourself. Basically, meditate and stop looking for internal solutions externally because nobody can tell you what you should be doing better than you.
Shit advice desu
I don't know dude, but I'm loving the earthbound style art you posted.
That's Wojack kid
Yeah but it's heavily giygas inspired buckeroo
>gets shitty advice
>comes to Jow Forums to complain about shitty advice
Kek
That's coincidence, you likely have schizophrenia or something similar, seek professional help
More like, how do i deal with people trying to shove shitty advice down my throat
>Get decent advice and do CS
>Fail horribly
>"Must be everybody elses fault"
People give you advice that might work under the assumption that you actually follow up by putting in effort. Why the fuck is it somebody elses fault you fucked up?
Let me guess. You never take action by yourself and you always just followed the advice of others. You followed the advice to try CS. You showed no initiative and you fucked up, because you have always relied upon other people. Nobody reached out to help you in those courses, ergo it's other peoples fault.
Take advice with a grain of salt. It's not that hard. Listening to advice isn't a commitment.
That's not always true, they can get upset and offended, or pushy
I tried really hard imo just complete fuckong shit, maybe retarded, couldnt wrap my head around it, and a lot of stress sort of all piled up and collapsed very suddenly.
Might have also been most of the other kids went in knowing a lot more than me, and that was the standard. But everything I didbt understand, it was just so alien to me that I didnt even know how to formulate a question to ask
this post is paradoxical. What if a large group of people all said all the other people were the problem
Haha mongo, look at the background faces behind Wojack and compare them. They're identical.
The problem is that the advice you're getting isn't "you" and you're taking this advice and half assing it. It's not that the advice is shitty, it's that it won't work for someone with your I interests and personality.
If you decide on college of trade school again, go for so strong you're actually interested in. It's hard to learn about something you don't care about, so find a career in something you wouldn't mind doing for the next 30-40 years.
Socialize with people with common interests. You probably came off as a dork since people could read you were being fake. If you don't feel like being around certain people, then dont. But you have to learn to socialize if you want to make it in this world.
Read shit and find out what you actually want in life. Because right now you're too focused on everyone else trying to find it for you.
I have no interests, I cant find any, Ive looked
Isn't it remarkable that everyone else's ideas and advice is so shitty, and yet they're the ones with successful lives and you, who know so much better, are the unhappy one?
no because I explained why in the OP, their advice actively makes things worse. And they never had to put up with their own or eachothers advice as much