How can I avoid this as a girl? I'm already 25 and I don't feel as pretty as I have in the past...

Wow, you get to experience what the average man's entire life is like. How will you ever manage?

This is what practically every man has to come to terms with from the moment they leave the womb.

Oh, fuck off. Young, attractive males get just as much attention. You're just salty that you were born ugly and placate the void of loneliness in your chest by telling yourself that you're really just "average" and that this is "normal."

You're really upset, lies won't make you feel any better, user.

Lol youre a mean spirited, self-centered retard and Im glad your thread got derailed and youre going to go through menopause

In turn, I'm glad you will die a virgin. Enjoy cuddling that Asuka body pillow, buddy.

I think the solution is dying, then you can't age anymore.

You guys got it wrong, as a man ages he gains experience that compensates for looks, through confidence and learning all those valuable lessons of our youth we become the attractive ones. Sound like bullshit ? Wait till you hit your 30's and you will understand

Not possible for me to die a virgin you roasties put out for nothing lol

sorry it's the price you pay for being that gender

Growing up is difficult for everyone, men and women both. Attention is naturally given to a lot of us because we're youthful, vibrant, and on the cusp of possibility. We have what everyone who isn't youthful wants; possibility. It is quite a jarring transition to realize that the further you slip into who you are the less consideration people give to what you could be. Its cruel that by the time we realize what a precious handful of years youth is we've already missed our opportunity to make the most of it especially in a society that often imbues value onto us that we don't always internalize or agree with.

My suggestion to you is to continue to work on yourself. That advice may seem broad but life is incredibly broad. Aging is strange in the sense that it never stops happening. There is never a point at which you have learned everything you need to learn. The hard pill to swallow is that the perception others have of your peak is not as important as the perception you have of it. You can't control how people perceive you but you can work on being content enough with your sense of self that their perception doesn't rattle you as much. You can't avoid the discomfort of settling into a new age group. All you can do is develop the confidence and wisdom to ease the transition.

I'd also encourage you not to focus on those in this thread who are projecting their insecurities onto your situation. Their rhetoric has nothing to do with you personally. You're just a convenient surrogate whipping post for their frustrations.

The cunt who posted this bait isn't worth your time and just wants more attention

Everyone ages. I don't believe that the thread being bait or not devalues my advice. Additionally, if OP is real, I didn't perceive that she was being disingenuous. You can dismiss her if you want but I'm under no obligation to.

By continually doing the things you want to do instead of sitting around and fretting. Everyone will get old. Just do the stuff you want to do before you're physically incapable of wiping your own ass.

>You're 25 silly, I bet you're just as beautiful as you were a few years ago
lmao girls get cottage cheese legs before they graduate fucking college

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Wrong

>Asuka
a shit

Have you been talking to any girls lately, pal? Im curious if you express any of this weird sex theory stuff to real life women or if you play it straight.

I talked with one, yes. It didn't come up in the course of the conversation.

>Talked
What like just one conversation? As much as you piss me off I really want things to work out for you, you gotta be putting some of this energy into getting out there and meeting girls.

Yes. A childhood friend I came across, nothing more than that.
And I'm not that easy to get rid of, I can assure you that if for some unfathomable reason I find someone who actually likes me and shares my beliefs, I will still be here to piss off half the board.

>Shares my beliefs
There you go again mate, that shit really doesnt matter very much. Just find a nice quirky qt who you can appreciate and appreciates you.

There is really no reasoning with this animal, user. He's a racist, 4everalone shit bag who thinks people he doesn't agree with deserve to be tortured and killed. Do what the rest of us have done; put his tripcode on filter and be done with it. He isn't worth any time or energy.

I won't accept anything less than waiting until marriage. Also,
>qt who appreciates you.
I can barely stand myself.

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He was exaggerating some of that but you're basically admitting to being a piece of shit, isn't it obvious that changing that is the real issue for you? Hypergamy and all that may be a problem but its much more of one if you spend so much time bitching about it (on Jow Forums's worst and least popular board) that it prevents you from fixing things you actually can fix.

I wasn't exaggerating. He's human garbage. Seriously, he's been coming here doing this same shit for a really long time. There is no talking sense into him. We've all tried hundreds of times.

I havent seen much of the racist stuff, he just has a virgin fetish that he backs up with some obscure studies and refuses to go outside

I suppose you could say that I focus on society as a whole partly because I don't like myself and don't see self-improvement as worth it.
The open challenge still stands. I will leave if I am given sources contrary to what I've been posting all along.
But somehow, nobody in the past year has ever been able to do it. Probably because those sources don't exist and "talking sense into me" doesn't mean repeating
>ur dumb and ur sources r dumb, me big brain

You degenerates have the collective intelligence of a gas station urinal.

>obscure
Hardly. Some of the data comes straight from the CDC.

Look man everyone knows for wishy washy social issues there are a million different bullshit statistics and even the best ones are sketchy, but in any case you'd be better off with a non-virgin wife than your own hand and 20 tabs open on Jow Forums. A virgin would probably be better but there arent a lot of those to go around and that "special someone" isnt going to be a guy who hates himself and rages on Jow Forums all day, its just not an option. Getting any girl is going to be hard enough for you so you'd better get serious if you don't want to end up a permavirgin.

All you need to know is that he frequently wishes death and torture onto people he disagrees with. He would be harmless if his violent fantasies weren't so vivid and persistent. Its one thing to have personal preferences in your romantic endeavors and another completely to tell people with sex lives you disagree with they deserve to be skinned alive while having the gall to mascaraed those sentiments as advice. Like I said; human garbage, belongs in the trash. I honestly don't feel like taking up anymore thread space talking about this sack of shit. My whole point in suggesting you filter his posts is that so long as he doesn't violate any of the technical rules of the board (which he frequently does) its kind of our responsibility to keep this place semi-productive for actually vulnerable people that need real advice. Not letting him derail every single thread with his bullshit is just one of the small ways in which we can accomplish that.

Oh give it a rest, this is the worst board on Jow Forums and the rest of you are just lazier versions of him with some different opinions.

>in any case you'd be better off with a non-virgin wife
I'd rather bite my own dick off. And I know that I'm not the kind of person to attract anyone, let alone those who actually have morals. That's why I spend my time here instead, because I can at least spread the knowledge and statistics to those who do have a chance.
>he frequently wishes death and torture onto people he disagrees with.
Hysterics. Are you the one who said that I made "terrorist threats"?

>the rest of you are just lazier versions of him with some different opinions.
So are you trolling or do you genuinely believe that every person here is some lazy iteration of a virgin maniac who fantasizes about the torture and murder of all women who had sex before marriage? If "everything is terrible and everyone is terrible" is honestly your justification for perpetuating terribleness you need to huck yourself off the same cliff that literally hitler does because there's not a single more disgusting human trait than apathy.

>you need to huck yourself off the same cliff that literally hitler does
Proving him right in one post, kek. You just wished death on someone you disagreed with, dumbass.

This board is garbage and hates giving advice

Guy here. I peaked when I was 17. I'm okay at 24 but I aged real fast in general. I looked like a hot 28 year old when I was 17. Women would actually come up to me and flirt with me. Now I just look like an oddly shaped 40 year old with nice hair.

My advice is to focus on meaningful goals in your life and try to ween yourself off relationships with others unless they are specifically for that goal. I know what it's like to live shallowly and selfishly just because you happen to be a winner. It's much more satisfying to do productive things. Plus you'll meet people who are deeper and won't care when you're ugly.

That doesn't mean someone else couldn't use the advice.

I hope you realize that you're wasting your life, even if this dumb crusade of yours was a good idea there are much better places to do it (outside).

imo short hair like in pic on old people makes you look like an invisible middle age women.
Don't get fat, keep your hair long and healthy, keep your skin nice, and you can age well.
There's a handful of good lookin old ladies who still get stares. Cougars are a thing

There are no women who share incel beliefs.

>Young, attractive males
thats your problem. the average male doesnt get jack shit

Oh this is so, so wrong. Of course attractive men get treated nice, but it's only a fraction of what an attractive woman would get.

Stop it with the incel lies and go back to . This board is for those who actually want to improve, it's not your echo chamber of pity circlejerk.

>Anything that contradicts the notion that all demographics are equal in all ways is a lie
I know this is bait but just for the audience, unless you're a supermodel men don't recieve a lot of attention on an everyday basis, even when women are into you they don't usually say much about it so you have to work for it. Im pretty good looking but women have almost never hit on me, even the ones with huge crushes on me barely let on. Below average guys can easily get zero positive attention from females, legit uggos dont have a prayer.

On the other side, Ive seen plenty of unattractive girls get repeatedly hit on by random men.

You don’t avoid it; you embrace it.

The thing the woman wanted when she was young wasn’t youth - it was power. Power over other people’s behavior. It’s a common theme to mankind and women are no exception - they want power over people.

This woman, thank god, realized how toxic that can be... and she took the easy way out - by sacrificing ALL of her power in a job that “isn’t about her.”

So she ran from her will to power. that’s one option as you get older.

Another option is to realize the toxicity of the never ending thirst for power over people and settle for something sustainable - power over certain people in a healthy way.

So my way of avoiding it as a i get old is to not avoid it - channel it. You don’t feel as pretty huh? Well are you actually putting work into yourself or are you sitting around getting cottage cheese legs.

A girl who wants to suck my dick asked me today what I do for fun. I told her cook, clean, work out, and figure out fun ways to make money. She looked at me like I had a mental handicap.

She’d still suck my dick. And all of that cooking, cleaning, and working out = I look great, have a small but comfortable place, and can feed people like a damn adult. I could look like I have Down syndrome and those three things would still get women over to my place and on my sex.

Accept who you are. It’s only after that that a person can truly be free. Waaa getting older. I relish getting older.

Think about this: even the most attractive men have to approach women they like first.

Fuck off r9k cultists. You all sound like such pathetic sacks of shit chanting the nonsensical, self-pity anthems your cult leaders taught you.

Objectively false.

Women don't give a shit about looks unless you're basically deformed. I have a dad bod and blackheads all over my nose, I still get pimples sometimes and I wear dorky glasses. Only the most stuck up prisses who I wouldn't wanna date anyway won't talk to me.

All you have to do is make women laugh and have confidence. Actual confidence not the absurd "muh chad just clean your room and talk loud" mush from r9k. You'll understand confidence when you give up this childish shit and talk to women like people who like to laugh instead of sex objects that reject you.

Also, stop obsessing over looks. Have you seen people? Ever? Or do you just lurk instagram all day jerking off in your mom's basement? In the real world, there is no one who looks like they do on instagram. People have physical flaws and they are obvious. Wrinkles, pimples, sag, bad glasses, bad style and so on. It'ssomething everyone deals with. There are no chads in real life. You all obsess over phony instagram magazine fashion pics that don't exist just to perpetuate the feeling of victimhood. Victimhood is addicting. But the only thing you are a victim of is yourself being a dumbfuck. Leave the basement and experience the real world. Fashion photos are not real life.

You missed the point of and of OP post. All they tried to tell is that youbg women recieve shitton of free attention from basicaly everybody. So they can easily get an idea they are center of universe. Which 99% of men will never experience.

You talk about how to court woman, that is offtopic. Not everything is r9k.
>and i am not saying you arent right

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Another reason this board is terrible, its filled with middle school-minded moralfags who jump down your throat and insult you if you disagree with their silly and unfounded biases, no matter how politely and sincerely. Seriously mate, the notion that women get disproportionately higher sexual attention is ancient and can be verified very easily in our society, either outside with real people or on the internet. There's a reason sexually frustrated sad posters are like 90% male: the vast majority of guys dont look good enough to be valued based on their looks, they need to create other values. There are probably a few exceptions like whales in wheel chairs but girls generally recieve constant positive attention and get invited to things often without trying, some of course get more that others and the hottest man is probably better off than the ugliest woman but if you deny that the average girl doesnt get more than the average man (considering things like money as well) then I'm sorry but you're full of shit, and if you're a woman that means you're so used to the positive attention that you dont notice it and think everyone gets the same.

Before you try to use ad hominem, I'm not a virgin. I look pretty good and am caring and interesting enough that lots of girls have liked me, but as men are expected to have money and 'game' I havent gotten laid nearly as much as girls around the same level of attractiveness do if they want to because I'm a poor college student and not a rich guy who can go to clubs every night.

By the way this is the sort of thing I was talking about lol

Dammit didnt tag the actual post

>All women get an easy life and stuff given free
>99% of men will never experience happiness or love or sex
Take your fucking pity party back to .

This board can be terrible because of posters like you. Why can't you stay on your containment board? Nothing you say is grounded in fact or reality. You are an angry, bitter incel who has nothing to contribute except whining your spergy Jow Forums cult chants.

Lol that's not what he was saying at all, he was saying they dont get the same level of attention from random people, not that they'll never find one who likes them. Did you just learn what Jow Forums is today or something? Thinking you're cool for knowing about Jow Forums and using it as an insult every sentence isn't going to get you far here. Jow Forums's not even really like that, its just a place for losers to shitpost, its in good fun unlike Jow Forums.

Lol alright

>r9k
>fun
It's probably the most angry board on Jow Forums.

Not even remotely, just shows you're new

Whatever makes you feel better, teenager virgin from Jow Forums.

It's really sad when somebody is clearly unequipped to discuss ideas and trends and falls back to shaming language. This is Jow Forums, not your high school social group. You can't just shame people into silence.

It's sad when a basement-dwelling bitter virgin gets lost on his way to Jow Forums and starts spewing his cultist garbage. This is a board for those who want to improve, not your echo chamber of self-pitying circlejerk.

>how do i stop being a vapid fuck basing my opinions on looks

hmm grow up

Lol no it was never a place for people to improve, look around. It was literally created as a containment board for people who sadposted on /b/ and everyone here has a worse life because of it, I come here out of boredom and I still feel like it fucks me up and I'm trying to stop. This is the most annoying and purposeless board here, everyone is a bitter moralfag who hates their life and insults people who express concerns to cope and the few people (like me sometimes) who still try to help people asking for help have our time wasted by OPs who just wanted to bait and bitch (like you). If you were sent by reddit or tumblr to 'convert the heathens' then you'll have better luck going to a better board and then actually paying attention, if you want to rant for hours about the incel menace then go where the incels are at least, jesus fucking christ.

Literally not a single thing you said is true. It's obvious you are a lying newfag who thinks the entire site is like your homeboard Jow Forums.

Gotta say this is some pretty hardcore trolling

By living a life that does not depend on whether men would like to sleep with you or not. Growing old is a privilege and beauty does not fade, it changes.

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t. Roastie

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hey, im this isn't an r9k lie, ive never even been to r9k. what i meant to say is that you cant really expect to be treated like a young, attractive man (or woman, for that matter) when you're well into your 30's.

and the average man really doesn't get jack shit. at least not the way you think they do

this. hell, this even makes you more attractive

I consider it a small miracle when somebody manages to get up the fourth level.
This entire thread is just the bottom rung of "incel incel incel" with occasional forays into orange.

>everyone who disagrees with my incredibly one-dimensional perception of the world is a roastie. I feel confident in saying this because my method of engaging people and internalizing the opinions of those who I don't agree with, much like my understanding of women, is exceedingly infantile.

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>everyone who disagrees with my incredibly one-dimensional perception of the world is an incel. I feel confident in saying this because my method of engaging people and internalizing the opinions of those who I don't agree with, much like my understanding of morality, is exceedingly infantile.
Goes both ways, faggot.

You know you really fucked up when we have to side with literally hitler over you (to be fair he actually is an incel but im not)

Thinking everything is naturally totally equal for all demographics is incredibly one dimensional.

>he actually is an incel
Except easily 75% of my posting is centered around voluntary celibacy. You know, the exact opposite of being an incel.
Incels are those who desire sex but don't get it through a combination of abhorrent personalities (often mental disorders) and grotesque appearances. I can't prove anything over the internet, but I don't want to fornicate, and while I am abrasive here, I know how to handle myself around others.

seriously, if concepts in this thread are so pathetically out of touch with reality that they could only be created in the mind of some caricature of what these people think an r9k poster is, there would be a long copypasta that could easily be posted and would immediately shut down these kinds of ideas immediately, but there isn't because there is no response

there is just sexual shaming and insults because roasties bring down the average IQ of this board

I have hitler filtered. I don't give a shit about anything he has to say.

>Thinking everything is naturally totally equal for all demographics is incredibly one dimensional.
I agree. My only qualm is with thinking that calling someone a roastie is any kind of mature or logical defense of your opinion. Its incredibly juvenile. If you believe your position is worth defending then defend it.

I'm Hitler. Filtering an opinion you don't like doesn't seem like a mature or logical defense. Yeah, you'll probably filter this too, but
>If you believe your position is worth defending then defend it.
Back at you.

First post worst post. Women get worse with age and men get better with age. You should have said all women go through that and not all humans.

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I was very polite to that cunt but she just kept calling us Jow Forums incels, all on her

No shit, is this really info to Women? I'm sad that current women have deluded themselves so much into thinking guys will never look at looks first. There's a reason why a tight high schooler can charm an adult male

Bitch I have a gf and get pussy on demand and I still feel good you entitled cunts hit the wall. Western women are simply that fucking annoying now

They wouldn't be able to filter you if you didn't try to be a special snowflake with your tripcode.
Exactly, it pisses me off that this is even debated let alone called an "incel cultist idea", it's written in golden letters across the sky and even the sloppiest examination of history will show you that humanity has always understood it. I'm not complaing about it, that would be like complaining about needing to take a shit sometimes. Its just the way nature works and the more we lie about it the more fucked up young men we get who have unrealistic expectations about how society will treat them that end up turning them jaded and depressed when they realize they don't get their share for free.

>Women get worse with age
>Men get better with age
I agree that women “get worse” with age, in the sense that they lose their looks, and their looks are proportionate to their social worth, but saying all men get better with age is also another generalisation and falls flat in many cases.

While it’s a far smaller proportion, there are women who also managed to gain social value aside their looks, from their movements, businesses and success. (ie. Hillary Clinton, Merkel etc. please don’t bring Jow Forums into this)

The only type of guy who ages well are those who “grow” into their good looks well in their old age, that are considered above the average face of those in their age range (ie. George Clooney) Or those guys that manage to accumulate wealth and/or social fame, (ie. Trump) which are other crucial components of social worth and how society views you. Most other average men don’t age well, their looks also fade (though it’s not too important as their looks aren’t that valued as much as women) and they also become more invisible in society.

That being said, people can and have managed to lead many happy (read: more true to themself, more wise) lives as they grow older. It mostly seems like an excuse some men make up to make them feel better about their state of life they’re not satisfied with, with regards to women or success.

I think both women and men look worse when they age, I think the only reason you think that men get better as they age is because you are a man (i.e. you are delusional, and getting old)

The only men and women that still look okay as they age are actors, people that were EXTREMELY beautiful when they were young, but have also captured hearts through their performances

This is so true. They're getting triggered haha

>roastie triggered

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